Email
Forum Archives (2)
Other
Email Forums
Best of the Email
Forums (Part 1)
Best of the Email Forums (Part 2)
About EL
----- Original Message -----
From: Kris
P.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: About EL
Hey Mike.
I like how your article on the
Whore of Babylon is turning out, especially the part where
you say that Madona is falling into Satans' trap for making an
end of the forces of chaos, which is a double blasphemy, because
she has only a faint idea of what she's dealing with.
Just one small correction.
Marduk and EL are the same god. EL (Deity, Supreme God)
comes from BEL, a title which signified supremacy in ancient
Babylon (Lord, Master), where BEL was used almost exclusively for
Marduk, but BEL or EL was also used to represent the
The Sun. The ancient Babylonian gods were all
symbols of the SUN, with Marduk being supreme in Babylonia, and
Asshur being supreme in Assyria. Practically all other
supreme Gods since then come from the supreme solar, Sun god
of the Babylonians, like BAAL (BA EL), Elohim (EL ohim),etc,
but being renamed later on. Furthermore, Sun
worship was always associated with human sacrifice in history.
Interesting huh? :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_(god)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(god)
I hope that helps Mike,
May the force be with you!
* * * * *
Hi Kris,
Thank you for your appraisal of
the article. I can truly say you are among a few who truly grasp
the full meaning of it. I appreciate your correction ... and you
may well be right ... but before I continue, you should know the
links you provided are pointing to pages that say the following:
Wikipedia does not have an
article with this exact name. Please search for Bel (god
in Wikipedia to
check for alternative titles or spellings.
Wikipedia does not have an
article with this exact name. Please search for El (god
in Wikipedia to
check for alternative titles or spellings.
If one searches enough with the
links supplied however, pages do come up with listings of names
like Bel, Baal, El Shaddai, Elohim, etc... many suggesting that
Bel and El are one. Normally I would have little
problem with this, although it appears to me at this time that
some scholars have confused El and YHWH (Yahweh) and historically
such confusion may have led certain peoples, especially in
Babylon, to actually worship YHWH under another name (Marduk)
when it is another god they were intending to worship.
This article opened my eyes a bit:
http://the-red-thread.net/IS-RA-EL.html
The following is the concluding
paragraph that summarises what the entire page is conerned with:
What I also
suggest is that EL and YHWH were two separate 'gods' - see: YHWH as Marduk. So we see that
the gods El and Yahweh are distinct gods from each other, as
distinct as their individual names. Yahweh was worshipped as
a war god from the deserts of southern Palestine who migrated
north to Judah while El was the god of Israel whose home was
Mesopotamia. Historically speaking, the two gods must be
regarded as originally distinct that subsequently were
related and finally identified through political and
religious syncreticism.
Betty Rhodes
Following the above link to the
following page, also on the same website, http://the-red-thread.net/marduk-yhwh-comparisons.html, we find that the author gives us 38
very good reasons to believe that YHWH and Marduk
were the same god. Thus, historically, if we believe the
author has made a convincing argument that El had nothing to do
with Yahweh, that they were considered to be two seperate deities,
we must conclude that Marduk and El were NOT
the same god, and that we can only speculate from this
information that the Babylonians mistakenly believed they were
worshipping El, not Yahweh, as Marduk (as the god of Babylon
was hated by Yahweh). As the author Rhodes reminds us, "the
two gods (El and Yahweh) must be regarded as originally distinct
that subsequently were related..."
That is to say, by relating them, they were confused with one
another by certain peoples.
This confusion, I believe,
eventually corrected itself as Rhodes concludes "(El
and YHWH were) finally identified through
political and religious syncreticism." Thus,
El was finally worshipped in his many forms as Baal and Ba'al
Hammon (Lord Hamman or God Hammon). El, always the horned
god since antiquity, became the ultimate horned god as he was
then represented by a bull or an ox.
It is Baal then that
Nostradamus, knowing his gods well, is relating to the powerful
"dame" who "puts the Innocents to the fire"
before being consumed "by the true flame" herself.
When this will happen, I do not know. I do know that
Madonna has a strong attraction to Spain and its culture, and it
is in Spain that the monstrous ox (Baal) is seen. She will also
put on the mantle of the goddess Ishtar, who was linked to Marduk
(Yahweh), but certainly not out of reverence to Yahweh, but
rather, because Ishtar was regarded as "Queen of Heaven"
and was so utterly licentious, like the Whore of Babylon, and
drunken with the blood of those sacrificed in her name at orgies
and other rituals and festivities.
This historical confusion, in any
event, will likely be lost upon most viewers who read the article,
and, it is only necessary that they come to know that Madonna, as
the Whore of Babylon and Queen of Heaven will bring about a
return to Baal worship and human sacrifice (on a massive scale).
Thanks again for your interest and your
help.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Kris
P.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:35 AM
Subject: RE: About EL
Hi mike,
Good to hear from you. If
your assistant Kathryn read my email, she probably thought, Oh
no, not another discussion on ancient gods with this guy, I'm
going to leave it to Mike, lol
.
Anyways, the reason i sent you
those links was because i needed a quick reference as
backing for my claims for the definitions of these names (which
I am well familiar with), and I thought Wikipedia would be
the fastest way to get those. I honestly didn't read the
entire links, just made sure the definitions were correct, and
went with them.
I dislike using wikipedia as a
source, but it can be useful ocasionally. What I wanted to
use was a certain old text, but i had to re-read through it first
to get the quotes I wanted. The current knowledge (which is
not new) I have on those gods came to me in a life changing
book. A few years ago I was able to acquire a certain
ancient (actual 100 year old book) called:
The Historical Bases Of Religions: Primitive-Babylonian-And
Jewish by Hiram Chellis Brown, 1906.
I urge you to seek it out if you
are serious about ancient religions. I will try to
summarize what I wanted and want to tell you about
Marduk, Bel, Baal and El in a few quotes that will be a more
clear expression of what I wanted to say in the first place. Here
they are:
"Enlil, or
Bel was father of Marduk, who in later ages became the supreme
god of Babylonia, and in whom the attributes of all the other
gods were finally merged. The worship of Bel was universal
throughout the country, and it extended so far into the
prehistoric past as to make Nippur a religious centre, and give
it a sacred character and prestige that could only come with a
long period of political and prestigious prominence (page 55)."
"...all or.
at any rate, the highest deities in the Babylonian pantheon are
designated as one with, and one in, the god Marduk.
The god Nin-ib is Marduk as being Possesor of Power.
The god Nergal is Marduk as being Lord of the Conflict of Battle.
The god Bel is Marduk as being Possesor of Lordship (Supreme Lord).
The god Nebu is Marduk as being God of Industry and Trade.
The god Sin is Marduk as being illuminator of the Night.
The god Samas is Marduk as being god of the Day, and Lord of all
that is just.
The god Addu is Marduk as being god of Rain.
...Marduk accordingly is Nin-ib as well as Nergal, moon-god as
well as sun-god, and so on,- the names Nin-ib and Nergal, Sin and
Samas, are simply different ways of describing the one god Marduk;
they are all one with him and in him (page 95-96)."
"As the
people of Israel became agriculturists, they brought their
offerings to agricultural divinities, whose shrines were found on
every hill-top, under every green tree, and by every flowing
spring. There the various gods, - Jehovah, Milcom (Moloch),
Chemosh, Astarte and others, - under the comprehensive title of
El, Bel, or Baal, were invited to feast with their worshippers
and sanctify with their presence the orgies that followed (page
162)."
The author states (and I have to
agree with him) that the mythologies of different civilizations
(and cultures) don't complement and match each other perfectly
like the pieces of a giant puzzle into a neatly and tightly
formed picture. They do not! But I do believe however
that the ancient religions (Egyptian, Sumerian, Vedic) had their
source in a pre-dilluvial religion and civilization like
that of Atlantis, and as the millenia passed these close fitting
pieces become more numerous and less compatible to each other.
The author talks a lot about the
israelites. What i found really significant was that, the
Israelite/Jews become much more monotheistic during the time of
and after their conquest by the Assyrians. This was only
due to the effect the highly developed monotheistic religion of
the warrior Assyrians had on the Jewish priesthood, passed to
them by the mighty Babylonian civilization.
Now about that author who claims
that Marduk and YHWH are the same god and then claims they're not
the same god. This is hypocrisy, and from experience I
dislike hypocrits, and have to label those claims as conceit
which is common among such people. And i adhere to Jesus
here, as he reproached hypocrats and liars. I would
say they are closer than they are further in the ideology of a
monotheistic god.
However, you must know that this
author makes claims and assumptions that are wrong. I'm not
going to go debunk every claim he makes but, for example Bel/Marduk
existed hundreds if not thousand years before anyone mentioned of
YHWH! I have yet to see evidence of YHWH worship before the
time of Moses, 1500-1600BC, so a 2000 BC claim for YHWH is
frivilous. But even even with that date, Marduk still
predates him. The Late Sumerian/ Early Babylonian
civilizations date to around 4000 B.C., the age of Taurus (The
Bull), thus you see the half bull, half man, anthropomorphic
creatures that were carved as holy guardians/watchers/cherubim,
by the very astro-theologically aware Babylonians and Sumerians.
Lets remember that Abraham the father of the Jews, emerged from
Mesopotamia around 2000B.C. into the Canaanite regions where Baal
worship was already evolving. Mesopotamia at that time was
the Babylonian culture! Whose alphabet did the jews adopt
later on? the Phoenicians'. The Phoenicians and Chaldeans
and others were heavily religiously and otherwise influenced by
the Babylonians from whom the jews heavily borrowed.
Furthermore the planet of Marduk
is Jupiter (like Zeus') which is closer to a star than a planet.
Let's remember that the cuneiform for a God in Babylonia is the
Star!
Finally, how can Marduk, the god
of Babylonia, claim that the god of Babylon is its enemy? That
would mean Marduk is his own enemy! lol
Anyways, it is perhaps irrelevant
whether YHWH is a prototype of of the Egyptian Solar deity RA, or
of Bel/El, or both, because like i stated above, these are
ideologically the same monotheistic deity, which was imparted on
those civilizations by an event more ancient and forgoten
civilization. Yet, I am firmly convinced that all these
gods RA,BEL,YHWH, whether one believes are the same or not, even
though "monotheistic" deities, which they're not really,
are pagan in their nature. And perhaps this very
fact, holds secrets to the nature of a pre-dilluvial, long
forgoten, and decadent civilization and perhaps even to our own
"advanced" one.
Yours truly,
KP
* * * * *
Hi Kris,
I think I created some confusion
with the associations I read on that website. Although in
the final analysis I find myself agreeing with your current email,
I do not see that she has contradicted herself. I will try to
simplify what associations she made:
The author was saying El and YHWH
(Yahweh) were not the same god on one page (El does not
= YHWH).
Then on another page she said that
Marduk and YHWH were the same god (Marduk = YHWH).
The conclusion, therefore, if both
cases were true, would logically be that El and Marduk were
not the same god or related (El does not = YHWH).
However, I bow to the knowledge
and expertise of the book and author you have cited. I
believe you have dismissed the findings published on the
above author's website, irregardless of your misunderstanding
what that author was saying.
Therefore there will be no reason
to correct what I said in my 2008 article concerning Madonna on
the Personalities From The Book Of Revelation page, but the
current article on the Second Home page will have to be
tweaked in a few locations.
Eventually, both articles will be
merged on the Personalities From The Book Of Revelation page.
Thank you for the clarification.
Kind regards,
Mike
---------
Hi again Kris,
I know I have answered this email
already, but Kathryn also wants to make a reply. Thanks.
Mike
.........
Hi Kris P
Thank you very much for taking the
time to explain to Mike and I about your findings. To be honest
Mike is far more educated on such matters than I am. At this
present time we choose (myself backing Mike's article) to make
those remarks about Marduk, because we have to put things across
as we see them at that time. I am not saying who is right and who
is wrong, but history has been so confused it is hard to tell who
was who. Please do not take this as discouragement. We see your
point. And we truly appreciate your help on clearing this matter
up. But our goal is to get to the truth and tell what we know so
that people can judge for themselves. If along the way a few things
may appear wrong, that is ok for the time being, because often
the wrong answers can lead us to the right ones. We just have to
make sure they are wrong first.*LOL*
Kind regards Kathryn.
The Book of
Enoch
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:11 PM
Subject: The Book of Enoch
Hi Mike and Kathryn
Kathryn you ask the following:
Has
humanity for thousands of years been part of a breeding programme
ordered by God? An experiment to manipulate
species from different races to create one single entity that
fulfills all his requirements? One that has been genetically
modified by his sons of God, or Aliens as we know them, in order
to reach a perfected final goal?
In Revelation 12 its says :
Woe to the
inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down
to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short
time.
Could it be that part of his wrath is to make experiments on
humans ?
If you read the following excerpt
from "The book of Enoch" You will see that the "fallen
angels" or as they are described elsewhere "the sons of
God" did not take women as their wives in
accordance with Gods orders.
They did it in disobedience to his law.
This is quite clear in chapter 10.
In the book of Enoch the fallen angels are also refered to as the
Watchers.
[Chapter 6]
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied
that in those days were born unto
2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the
children of the heaven, saw and lusted
after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose
us wives from among the children of men
3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said
unto them: 'I fear ye will not
4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the
penalty of a great sin.' And they all
answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all
bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they
all together and bound themselves
6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two
hundred; who descended in the days of
Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it
Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these
are the names of their leaders:
Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel,
Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal,
8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel,
Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are
their chiefs of tens.
[Chapter 7]
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves
wives, and each chose for himself one,
and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves
with them, and they taught them charms
2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them
acquainted with plants. And they
3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was
three thousand ells: Who consumed
4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer
sustain them, the giants turned against
5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds,
and beasts, and reptiles, and
6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood.
Then the earth laid accusation against the
lawless ones.
[Chapter 8]
1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields,
and breastplates, and made known
to them the metals of the earth and the art of working
them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use
of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all
kinds of costly stones, and all
2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they
committed fornication, and they
3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza
taught enchantments, and root-cuttings,
'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught)
astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel
the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the
earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the
course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and
their cry went up to heaven . . .
[Chapter 9]
1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from
heaven and saw much blood being
2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the
earth. And they said one to another:
'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of
their cryingst up to the gates of heaven.
3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make
their suit, saying, "Bring our cause
4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the
ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings,
and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth)
unto all the generations of the
5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the
ages! Thou hast made all things, and power
over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and
open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all
6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what
Azazel hath done, who hath taught all
unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets
which were (preserved) in heaven, which
7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast
given authority to bear rule over his associates.
And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth,
and have slept with the
9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all
kinds of sins. And the women have
10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with
blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold,
the souls of those who have died are crying and making
their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations
have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless
deeds which are
11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they
come to pass, and Thou seest these things and
Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we
are to do to them in regard to these.'
[Chapter 10]
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent
Uriel to the son of Lamech,
2 and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide
thyself!" and reveal to him the end that approaching:
that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is
about to come
3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And
now instruct him that he may escape
4 and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the
world.' And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel
hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an
opening
5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And
place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with
darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his
face that he may
6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great judgement he shall
be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels
have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth,
that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men
may
not perish through all the secret things that the
8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the
whole earth has been corrupted
9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe
all sin.' And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the
bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of
fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the
children
of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go
forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy
each other in
10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And no request
that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted
unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live
an eternal life, and
11 that each one of them will live five hundred years.' And the
Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates
who have united themselves with women so as to have
defiled themselves
12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have
slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their
beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in
the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of
their
consummation, till the judgement that is
13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be
led off to the abyss of fire: and
14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined
for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed
will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the
end of all
15 generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and
the children of the Watchers, because
16 they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of
the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the
plant of righteousness and truth appear: and it shall
prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth' shall be
planted
in truth and joy for evermore.
I have attached the full text of
" The book of Enoch" . I hope you will find it useful.
Luke 17:26-30 (NIV)
"Just
as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of
the Son of Man. People were eating,
drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah
entered the ark.
Then the flood came and destroyed them all. "It was the same in the days of Lot. People
were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and
building. But the day Lot left Sodom,
fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them
all. "It will be just like
this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.
My point is that if God had not
wiped out the majority of humanity , then we as a race would
probably have succeeded in killing of ourselves together with all
life on this planet a long time ago..
So according to Luke we are in for a hefty ride soon. Humanity
will suffer both floods and fire from the sky, and ..
Oh
I almost forgot.. alien intervention.
Friendly greetings
Michael
Skøtt Andersen / Copenhagen d'Annemarc
* * * * *
Hi Michael,
Reading the excerpt you sent me
from the book of Enoch, I can see why you would make the
assumption that God had not sent the sons of God. But note the
Bible calls them sons of God, and I think that is with good
reason. I plan to say more on Mike's website, but I have to be
careful how I do this. I do not wish to be misinterpreted and
want to make my words very clear. I do not wish to upset certain
powers that be either, but I strongly suspect they are being
tricked with the promise of (false) technology. I DO believe
these aliens are Satanic in nature and that certain agencies are
having dealings with them. But I also am suspicious of what they
have come here for. After all the evidence I have seen so far,
this concludes me to believe that God is behind their motions,
not Satan as it seems.
With regards,
Kathryn
NEWS FLASH
on CNN , RAY MABUS named civilian leader of Navy
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:03 PM
Subject: NEWS FLASH on CNN , RAY MABUS named civilian leader of
Navy
Hi Mike
I just got a chock. I was working on my
computer when there was a news flash on CNN that president Obama
names Ray Mabus as the next secretary of the Navy.
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/knx/fredbrown/2009/03/ray_mabus
_eyed_as_next_navy_se.html
http://www.nndb.com/people/688/000121325/
I know that we should be expecting MABUS, but RAY, Could he then
possible be mentioned in
C9 Q44
Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
"Raypoz" will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs.
RAY MABUS, Raypoz ?????
I know what you could be thinking, that possibly I am getting a
bit to fond of C9 Q44.
I hope that your fathers situation has improved, and the same for
you.
Friendly greeetings from
Michael
Skøtt Andersen / Copenhagen d'Annemarc
* * * * *
Thanks Mike.
As most of the dream visions I have had about World War III seem
centred on the early stages in the form of horrendous naval
battles and attacks on US warships, and that if we should bypass
WW3 this year then I believe a great naval blockade in the
Persian Gulf by Russia and Iran will be the big trigger a few
years from now, Mabus being in position as secretary of the navy
is something that should concern us all. Even Nostradamus and
certain prophets like Alois Irlmaier reveal in their WW3
scenarios that the coming war requires great naval conflicts to
occur both before and during.
This would appear to kill the idea of Obama being Mabus, I dare
say (at least for as long as Ray Mabus remains in the position of
sec of navy).
As for Raypoz, I realise a nuclear sub in the Mediterranean can
reach even a landlocked, mountainous Alp nation like Switzerland
(Geneva) with an SLBM, but I really do suspect Nostradamus
foresaw an actual invasion by land troops and air forces when he
wrote this quatrain, although there is no doubt that a nuclear
attack is also possible. In another quatrain, for example, a
seven-million man army from North Africa actually invades
Switzerland via the Jura Mountains and moves on to attack Geneva.
So, I really think Raypoz (which was capitalised in original
manuscript by Nostradamus as "RAYPOZ") is an evil
antichrist type, but from what country we do not yet know,
although "poz" makes one think of a Russian name. Hard
as it may be to accept, I still think this is a future fourth
world war (or else a postponed World War III that begins in 2038
if we manage to avoid one in the next few years).
Best regards,
Mike
NOTE: I see I was
also asked about the state of my health and that of my fathers'.
Sadly, my father has been diagnosed with stomach cancer. However,
a medication he will soon be taking gives him a 75% chance or
better of controlling it or curing it. It is not chemo, nor does
he fall into the category of "terminal," so there is
much hope. But he is in much pain at this time and has little or
no appetite. My mother, to make matters worse, who is crippled
with arthritis and a diabetic, has suddenly begun to lose sight
in one eye. I will be taking her to see a specialist in a few
days. As for myself, the gout in both my feet has been ongoing
for six weeks, but not too bad during the last few days. It is
possible I am passing from the stage where one gets periodic
"attacks" of gout to a chronic stage. I hope not ... it
is too soon really for that. In any event, the rollercoaster ride
continues and it doesn't look like any of us is getting off any
time soon ... MM
FEMA
Camps
----- Original
Message -----
From: lance
poe
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:10 PM
Subject: Just saying hi
Hello,
My name is Lance Poe I am writing you regarding your web-site.
First, I would like to say that I am very impressed with its
content and think that your accuracy rate is very good. Typically
I read the book of Revelations and have been trying to piece
together the various components of the book in reflection to
modern day problems. Your web-site gives me another eye on the
matter and I appreciate it much. As a tool I like to see how
other ideas correspond to each other and your site tends to
include other prophecies by people that I never even knew existed,
once again thanks for that I have been looking them up as well.
In researching the different explanations of what is to come, one
stands out the most to me and has me very concerned. Some seem to
think that FEMA has concentration camps spread throughout our
country and are there for the soul purpose of imprisoning people
on a mass scale. They even go as far to say that they are
basically Death Camps for the non-conformers. Some of these camps
are reported to be able to hold a couple thousand people in them.
Times that by 2,000 camps and you get a pretty daunting number of
people that could be detained.
In one of your assumptions you state the in March 09 the US will
fall under attack by a biological agent or even nuclear; A.A.
Allens reflection of this was even more disturbing as to
the use of the statue of Liberty in his dream state.
My question to you is do you think that due to this attack which
may come at any day now enables the Executive Power for Marshall
Law and start shipping people off to these camps? And to what
extreme do you think these events will be; some past predictions
dont seem as extreme as to what really happened. Have you
thought of any way to fine tune your methods so you can get a
feel of the level of damage that may coincide with a particular
event? Example: if the Queen of England has a minor stroke
instead of dies this month then how do you consider that to be
fulfilled, is it half full or half empty? Is there a way to
recognize a total wipe out so to speak then just a little hiccup
in the time line.
Lastly, why bother imprisoning a bunch of people when in time
everything will be taken care of by some other event. I can
handle comets coming out of the sky, I can handle massive sun
expulsions hitting the earth and burning people up. I can even
handle the anti-Christ, and nuclear war but this thing about
people going to their end in an American Death Camp is just
incredible. Its a War within our own country and its
us against our government
I am not saying that it
cant happen because if Hitler can get people to hate and
kill as he did then any good politician especially one that has a
good command of his speech abilities as Barak can.
Is there a way to fathom the severity of a particular event? I
know sometimes when I see things a lesser form of that vision
happens.
Some of the things you suggest just for this year are nothing
short of apocalyptic in terms. I personally think that it is time
for man to change and that all of these events prescribed by all
these different sources will lead him to his evolution in mind,
body, and soul. And I believe that it is time to pay for our
arrogance and it time to move forward. Its time to realize
that we are unique beings and we should be worshiping that fact
everyday.
I just want to be sure that when I come across these predictions
is how strongly I should take them. I am going to watch them
unfold anyway, no matter what. But I like to stay ahead of them
so I can be on higher ground if need me
I promised I would
keep track of these things so I could watch them happen so a good
heads up is great. But some of these things are too far out there
almost dramatized I think.
Any way thanks for put up your site I am keeping track
* * * * *
Hello Lance,
The FEMA camps being detention or death camps is a very old idea
and an endless subject to be found on conspiracy forums ... if
you look around the internet you will still find web pages
warning about them back when Bill Clinton was president. It would
not surprise me if there once were sites back in the Bush Sr.
administration warning about them since the Internet's first year
was 1989.
During a time of economic collapse and possible global war their
existence to some extent is logical. Martial Law throughout the
United States during a time of great crisis will be very hard to
enforce.
I hate to say it, but based on some of the dreams I have had,
these camps may be no worse than the alternative. I have seen
groups of three-to-five innocent-looking people, men and women,
walking down suburban streets, one of their number walking up to
a door and knocking, and then the person who answers is shot to
death and the people go inside and kill everybody there, looting
the home. Down the street the same thing happening at another
house, maybe three homes taken over at one time on the same
street, everybody killed. People will have no compassion ... no
mercy. Everyone will be starving/fighting for food too.
In another dream I walk back to my boyhood home. All the houses
are dark, no one inside. I see a dark shape of a person stop and
then speed up, flitting down a street a few blocks away like a
living shadow. When I get "home" the house looks
beautiful, but it is dark and unlived in. Then I see these green
snowflakes coming down. I know it is October.
I have seen small cities, towns, and areas of large cities in
total blackout at night permanently ... no streetlights or
traffic lights working ... ravenous gangs roaming the streets,
some of them foaming at the mouth. I am in a car and I pull up to
a house. I go inside and gather everyone inside (in the dream I
know who they are) and we make it cautiously back to the car ...
and get in and take off just as the dark shapes of wild crazies,
men and women, run at us. It is truly frightening ... and the
fact that it is total darkness with only torches/flashlights
working ... driving is unsafe too because it is so dark.
No, I don't much relish the idea of FEMA camps and guillotines
and a few million plastic coffins. And I think the idea of A
Lists and B Lists is inhuman. I hope none of that is true.
But, based on my dream experiences, I can't say that I much like
the alternative either of humanity reverting to lawless bands of
psychopathic mobs ...
What it
ultimately comes down to, I suppose, is that what these camps are
used for is up to us. If we are positive
and weather the storms, be they economic, climate-related, war-related
or otherwise, these camps will be used for what they are surely
in place for now: as emergency centres in the event of more
Katrina disasters or a mega-Katrina catastrophe. If, on the other
hand, human beings riot, panic and become violent, then our worst
nightmares about what these camps are actually for will come true.
Then they will become prisons and death camps.
The choice
is our own.
Incidentally,
there was a prophecy I saw somewhere about the plastic coffins
and millions of people being transported to the northwestern US,
not to be enslaved or executed in camps, but buried in mass
graves. The reason: a horrific natural (or not so natural)
disaster that kills millions of people along the east coast. So
many die that for identifying the dead there will be no time ...
and no time for funerals. Perhaps the US government is preparing
for this catastrophe, maybe they know it will come from Planet X,
and they know what will happen ... thus the plastic coffins?
Anyway, what I did there was take a very popular conspiracy
theory and try to arrive at a base 7 vector for when it might
likely happen. What I arrived at was nothing less than
frightening. July/August 2009 is exactly around the same time
that Iran and Russia commence World War III together against the
nations of the West and Planet X becomes visible to all ...
... That is if you buy into the idea that it
will all hit the fan this year.
If you have read my updates, then you should know that I am of a
mind to believe that we may not face this grand combined disaster
of WW3 and PX until 2012 or even later ... and have created a
seperate series of pages for 2009 and 2010 reflecting what will
happen if we make it at least until December 2012. I also follow
the idea of it all hitting the fan this year and the aftermath
events that will occur in 2010 as a consequence. What happens in
2010, should World War III/Planet X happen this year, eventually
looks like times as they were 220 years ago in their most brutal
form.
I call these two alternative scenarios we may find ourselves in,
"Crash and Burn 2009" vs "Climax 2012."
We all have choices we must make, and the choices we make
collectively will determine which path we will take. If we handle
"Climax 2012" correctly, we will return to normal times
until at least 2038.
The biological attack scenario, similar to A A Allen's prophecy,
was again something I attempted to date using past historical
precedents such as the chemical attacks on the Kurds by Saddam in
1988 and the Tokyo subway attacks in March 1995. It is a long
shot in my view, and I certainly hope it does not happen.
If you have not read the Introduction to the Base 7 System yet,
now would be a good time. If you have, then you will understand
what I am about to say.
Time is constructed in such a way so that events of all types
will repeat again and again throughout history ... and for the
most part they do this in cycles of seven years or in multiples
of seven years (such as 14, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, 56, 63, 70, even
210, 350, 700 years for that matter, etc etc). Unfortunately, the
magnitude or severity of a repeated event can not easily be
determined ... you have noted this already by observing "past
predictions dont seem as extreme as to what really happened."
Thus, the Russian war in Georgia, for example, was not nearly as
long as the Russian war in Chechnya fourteen years earlier (over
18 months long), but certainly just as intense as the opening
weeks of December 1994/January 1995. The "Black October"
Crash of 2008 has turned out to be much worse than the Crash of
1987, and a second crash is not out of the question; yet we
cannot run out of hope either since recovery in November 2010
remains a distinct possibility. Anna Nicole Smith was not the
actress that Jean Harlow was who died 70 years earlier under
similar circumstances. Personally I think it is too early to say
the War in Gaza was a very weak replay of the 1973 October war
... influences from the 1967 war are next to kick in in June 2009,
and in between now and then the war in Gaza could be re-ignited
in a major way and expand northwards as it did in 2006, only
pulling in Syria this time.
Actually, Lance, the more I look over the predictions that were
fulfilled, the harder a time I am having finding a mere "little
hiccup." Comet McNaught was everything that Ikeya-Seki was
in 1965, and comparisons between the two were even made by
astronomers .... just as I predicted they would be. Then another
fascinating naked-eye comet appeared in October for good measure
(viewing conditions were good where I live then, so I did not
miss Holmes like I did McNaught). Comets happen all the time???
Not good ones, no. Comet Lulin this year did not rise above
magnitude 5, invisible to most eyes save in country dark 20 miles
away or more from the nearest town, and even then a mere speck.
Yes, comets like Lulin do happen virtually every year. But I
called for a major comet in 2007, and we got two instead ... and
one that could be seen in daylight. They were the brightest
comets to be seen since Hale-Bopp in 1997 and Hyakutake in 1996.
The Nor'easter that struck New York City in March 2007 was based
on the 1937 hurricane that flooded the Big Apple. It did flood
many of New York's boroughs, the metro region, Long Island, etc.
The photos show it all.
The flooding in the Midwest in 2007 and 2008 was the worst
flooding since 1993. Both were called 500-year floods. The
Midwest experienced THREE of them in 2008, all record-breakers.
The Mississippi-Missouri system was not as adversely affected as
in 1993, however.
Even some of the flops ... were they really such flops??? Big
Brown was such a shoe-in (pardon the pun) that by the third race
at the Belmont he couldn't have earned anyone any real money who
bet on him ... unless he lost!
History was almost made there, the first Triple Crown since 1978,
the longest drought between Triple Crowns since Citation in 1948
and Secretariat in 1973. I can imagine how many people bored to
death with the most successful racing horse in history, never
defeated in any race by any horse until the Belmont, chuckled
when he lost. These same people doubtlessly came on my site,
rolling their eyes, thinking McClellan is going to get yet
another one right. Damn him. Then came the report after Big Brown
lost about a shoe seen dangling from his hoof, a shoe carelessly
shod ... or purposely not put in place. Most serious horse race
enthusiasts I know say the race was fixed ... because Big Brown
was too good to be true. You can't win any money on a sure thing.
However, rather than hiccups, I do see some very spectacular
failures. Like the failure of the Big One (or in the case of my
prediction, "the Big Two") to strike LA, San Francisco,
or even San Diego, Portland, or Seattle. Despite an impeccable
series of base 7 alignments, not even so much as a rumble
occurred. All the seismic action remains around Indonesia ...
where it has been since December 2004. Then again, there is that
phenomenon I have tried to explain that I call geological
transmigration. Isn't it strange that on the very day I said the
West Coast would be hammered, China had the worst earthquake in
its history besides the great earthquake of 1976?
How could I fine tune a pattern of major West Coast quakes
occurring at regular intervals in the past and have instead
concluded that the Big One would hit China instead? Nevertheless,
I will say this much: when the West Coast does go it will likely
be linked in time to the 1906 quake or else the 1989 or 1994
quakes. Next time around for San Francisco (or adjacent regions)
is October 2010.
But yes, you are right. A major event can end up being more of a
minor event the next time around or 14 or 21 etc years later.
Then after a procession of hiccups and very honorable mentions,
along comes the nightmare version ... finally.
I now tell everyone that the base 7 system is infallible. It
belongs to God, that's why. Seven is God's perfect number and is
the reason you will see it and its multiples and even its
fraction (42 months is half of seven years) all over the Bible.
The base 7 system by itself is 100% accurate. What is inaccurate
is the person using the system. As a person using the base 7
system, I will NEVER be 100% accurate. Someone else might do
better than I. A supercomputer may come damn close to 100%, but
probably still fall short of 100%.
Aside from the events that fail to repeat this time around (but
may do so next time around or the time after that), there are the
events I never bothered to research. Ever notice those "Base
7 Alerts"? Those are from people who read a report of an
event occurring and checked their history and found a link to
another past event on the base 7 timeline. The wildfires in
Australia are a good example of this. They tell me about it, and
I find myself saying, why didn't I check into that a year or so
ago? I didn't check into that because I would have to be God to
check into everything possible under the sun.
So, sometimes I use base 7 to arrive at an event occuring again
that happened in history, sometimes I take a well-known prophecy
and attempt to date it using base 7, and sometimes I will attempt
to date my dreams or popular conspiracy theories (not too often
the latter) using base 7.
Yes, at this time, and since the 1990s, I have portrayed the
nightmare version of any base 7 prediction or established
prophecy as happening in our time. Why? Simply because, it is
clear that the times we have been living in are sufficiently
apocalyptic enough for the worst case scenarios to be presented.
If we survive the 2012-13 period intact and without war, the base
7 patterns will no longer need to be presented as nightmare
versions of past events.
Thanks again for your support,
Mike
Trabzon,
Turkey in news
----- Original
Message -----
From: Todd
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Trabzon, Turkey in news
I saw this and said "let me guess, Trabzon??" and I
guessed right. This could contribute to the prediction that
Russia / Iran will converge on and seige Trabzon...
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2009/me_turkey0226_03_18.asp
Todd
* * * * *
Thanks very much
for that, Todd.
I believe what most of the prophecies say will end up being true
about Turkey: that Russia will try to conquer her in order to
establish a southern flank. There are other reasons this could
happen too: if Russia and Iran are indeed allies, and Turkey
should become an obstacle for either country taking over Iraq or
the oil fields of Arabia, also blocking Iran's path into the
Balkans during the war of Daniel 7, 8, and early 11, one would
expect to see prophecies about Russia driving southwards into
Turkey and also Nostradamus' quatrains about Persia (Iran) at war
with Byzantium (Turkey).
One thing that confuses me, however, is that Erna Stieglitz
predicts that Russia will attack Iran also early in the war ...
which goes against the grain of everything else we know about
their special relationship and defence pact. Obviously, some of
these prophets must have been a bit confused at what they saw. I
could understand Iran double-crossing Russia after the Russian
blitzkrieg on Europe is waged and then repelled, which I do
believe will happen, and what is left of the Russian military
attempting a major assault against Iranian forces. Meantime,
Iranian-led Muslim forces will still be strong and continuing the
advance against the West in southern Europe even though Russia
will be driven back from central and northern Europe by the
"yellow dust."
According to the many people who interpret the prophet Ezekiel,
Turkey will be an ally of Russia (Gog) during the invasion of
Israel. However, Ezekiel calls Gog "chief prince of Meschech
and Tubal" (ancient kingdoms that were once part of Asia
Minor, now Turkey). When one is a prince of a kingdom or
territory, it is often territory that has been captured in war.
Thus, Gog (Russia) has captured Turkey earlier on and made it one
of his provinces. One should not gather because nations are named
as allies of Gog that all of them are willing allies.
Anyway, I have a feeling that the attack by Russia on Israel,
like the attack on Babylon (Iraq) by many nations at the
conclusion of the war prophesied by Jeremiah, may both be post-World
War III operations or end-of-world-war operations conducted under
a governing world body. Jeremiah's prophecy about the great war
in the Middle East ends with Iraq being destroyed utterly and
Iran going into captivity as a Western colony. Perhaps "Chiren
selin" and the new European Union/NWO will make a decision
to punish Iraq and Iran once and for all and assemble a huge
force much like Desert Storm was assembled in 1991. Included in
the ensuing argument will be if Israel should be punished as well.
According to Nostradamus, "those of Russia" at that
point will be allied with "the king of Europe" who
appears as a "gryphon."
So Russia will aid in the destruction of Babylon (Iraq). Jeremiah
ends there, but I've feeling Ezekiel takes up where he leaves off.
After a short period of time, Russia argues that Israel too must
be punished. Either that, or Russia is is given the task to march
on Israel, and Russia reluctantly agrees and assembles a great
force for this purpose. Ezekiel does say Gog will have hooks put
into his jaws and will be dragged into going to war with Israel.
So the war of Gog may be the final operation by the new EU, new
NWO in the Middle East following World War III ... a war Russia
participates in with great reluctance.
Anyway, just a thought. Nevertheless, I suspect Turkey's destiny
will be to become a conquered nation that will eventually become
a province of a new Russian Empire.
Thanks again,
Mike
New
Aircrash soon ?
----- Original
Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: New Aircrash soon ?
Hello Mike
I hope that you and your family are feeling well.
Just two days after the miracle landing on the Hudson river in
New York I had the following short dream:
It was in the
evening or night and the sky was dark and it would seem
cloudy, at least I didnt see any stars.
I was standing
in a house or in the garden in front of a house close to the
railway of the A-train line in Copenhagen. I have seen the
houses in real life when I sometimes passes by in the A-train.
The railway is situated on a rise in the terrain. Suddenly I
saw a passenger jet with two engines diving steeply from the
right of me and then across the railway, when the pilot
managed to pull the jet out of the dive and allmost flying
leveled verry close to the ground. While he was doing this he
also turned the plane around so it now was travelling towards
me, and allmost below the railway. For a moment I thought
that the right wing of the plane was going to hit the house
in which I was standing, and that it would cut me down, but
instead the nose of the plane pitched up and at the same time
the plane banked left.
I got at
glimpse of the company name on the side of the jet. It was in
blue text and said "KLM".
Apparently the
jet was stalling and turned to the left with the nose
pointing down. The jet crashed into the side of the rise
where the railway is situated. There was no explosion but I
knew that at least the pilots would be killed. Throug out
this dream I didnt hear any sound from jet engines. The crash
took place between the stations "Ellebjerg" and
"Sjælør" or "Åmarken" and "Sjælør".
They
can be found on Krak.dk or on GoogleEarth i guess, in case you
would want a map of it.
After the Crash in
Amsterdam of the Turkish airlines passenger jet I got a call from
two of my sisters whom I had told this dream. Both of them said
that it must have been what I had been dreaming of.
I must admit that there are some similarities between my dream
and what took place in Holland.
1. The company name is written with blue letters.
2. The jet crashed without power/ The engines werent running.
3. There was no explosion.
4. The pilots were killed.
5. The nose of the jet pitched up shortly before the crash.
5. KLM is a Dutch company, and the crash happened in Holland.
Even so I am not convinced. I dont think that there is a railway
just beside the crashsite in Holland. And my dream was about a
plane crashing in Copenhagen.
I dont know if
this was a plane taking of from Copenhagen International Airport
Kastrup, or if it was arriving.
Friendly Greetings
Michael
Skøtt Andersen / Copenhagen d'Annemarc
* * * * *
Hi Mike,
I'm sorry to say things have not been too good the last month ...
although I did not post anything about that on my website. I got
an attack of severe painful gout in my right foot and found it as
hard to sit at the computer or any chair as it was to walk. I was
in bed most of a week. Although the most severe symptoms have
gone away, the foot remains chronically in pain and hard to walk
on. Then last week I got food poisoning or intestinal flu,
whatever it was I was in misery for three days and couldn't get
out of bed for that either. My dad is still very sick, pain in
his stomach, not much of an appetite, and has lost much weight
... he has another test tomorrow, so maybe this time we will
finally find out what is wrong and what can be done.
So, the updates on my website have been sporadic at best, with, I
think, an entire week when I did not update at all. I still have
email going back to early February that I intended to answer and
still needs to be answered. And there always remains the backlog
of unanswered email going back, in some cases, to 2006.
Your dream should not be associated with the Turkish airliner
crash in Holland for the obvious reason that it so clearly takes
place in Denmark! You do not have a "vague sence" of
such a crash: your dream is full of details, places, and names. I
arrived at the Turkish airliner crashing (in March 2009, which
was only four days off) using the base 7 system ... and the best
I could come up with for a crash site was France or the UK. Those
places are not too far from Netherlands though, I must admit.
Holland, on the other hand, is much farther away from Denmark ...
so your dream likely is an event yet to happen.
The best thing to do here is to do research to find out what
years Denmark has experienced air crashes on its soil. There was
such a crash on 09 September 2007 in Aaloborg. But that would not
have any real resonance until 2014 obviously, if even then. Aside
from that, I have before me the 100 worst aviation accidents in
history ... and not one of them occurred in Denmark. So this is
going to make dating your dream next to impossible, save for a
potential September 2014 dating. I will be moving ahead as far as
2016 in the near term, so I might keep it in mind.
By 2016 the great monarch should be revealed and in power,
leading Europe and the world into a new, unprecedented period of
peace and prosperity, or else the beast will have taken away all
hope of such a leader and brought about a final Armageddon. There
are a few other options, both good and bad, that could also
happen instead ... such as moving off the "jagged path"
prophesied in the Hopi Indian Prophecy in Rock, postponing the
evil time we are now in by 28 or more years before the current
cycle concludes, bringing opportunity for fresh troubles in the
late 2030s, or worse, bringing about our own extinction during
the next few years.
It seems human beings have choices to make ... we can only hope
they make the right ones!
Kind regards,
Mike
PS Thank you very much for your concern about my health and that
of my family's and your financial support. It is much appreciated!
Anti-christ
----- Original
Message -----
From: Debra
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: Anti-christ
Mike,
I was wondering what your thoughts are on Obama perhaps being the
anti-christ. Now that all the pre-election hipe is gone, I have
not heard much more about this. I am a pastor of a church and
have studied Revelation, not to say I have any real knowledge of
when or where the events will take place. However, during one of
Obama's pre-election speeches, as I was listening, a cold chill
ran up my spine. From that day on, I have not listened to his
voice but rather read articles regarding what he has to say.
I know this sounds crazy, but his smooth way of talking makes me
feel that he is truly the deceiver. Just wondering what you think.
Thank you in advance for your response.
Blessings,
Debra
* * * * *
Debra,
I think it may have been intended that Obama be the
personification of the beast of Revelation 13, but I have also
had the feeling that there is something about him that would
reject this role, even though this would leave him open to
possible assassination.
We have no choice but to wait and see.
However, I will leave you with this quote from another viewer who
thinks he will not be the beast:
"I have
also heard that Obama, while he could never have gotten
elected without illuminati (term herewith used to include all
the secret ops) support, is planning to buck the system. I
heard it is his intention in his 8 years as President to
create the tipping point which will neutralize illuminati
control. That is purportedly why they attempted to
assassinate him twice during the election campaign. Do you
remember that airplane he was on that mysteriously lost
altitude and then recovered? Some are saying that ETs
intervenedand that we are getting a lot of off planet
help..."
Well, whether he
has had ET help as the viewer claims or not I do not know, but it
is clear that other people sense that Obama may be his own man, a
leader who will do "according to his will" rather than
by the dictates of a beast system that would enslave the very
people he swore long ago he would liberate.
Hopefully we will persevere through the current economic crisis
and all be given another cycle of 28 years before we encounter
evil times yet again.
Thanks for writing and God bless,
Mike
TO Kathryn
Wolfe and Mike McClellan
----- Original Message -----
From: World
Changer
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:00 PM
Subject: TO Katy Wolfe and Mike McClellan
http://gospelgodspell.blogspot.com/
Yes, there is hope but you will not listen even to REAL
Prophecies given to me by a full port kundalini rising and
confirmed by others. You have been enslaved by the Jew memes
which HAVE CREATED THE CONDITIONS FOR WAR AND GREAT DEPRESSION.
PLEASE SEND ME THE WEB ADDRESS OF THE HOPI ELDERS AND I WILL
PROVE IT TO YOU. THE QUESTION IS DO YOU REALLY SEEK HELP FOR THIS
WORLD OR ONLY YOUR OWN FAME?
* * * * *
To WC.
For me this is not about fame or fortune or even material gains,
all of which I have spent years avoiding, as mad as it sounds,
since those things would actually hinder my purpose. No...
Justice is what this is truly about. You keep bringing up about
the Jews, believe me, I know more than I am willing to say about
what is really going on in that area, just at this time. And
anyway, you seem to have grasped a fundamental issue regarding
their true intent. But there are more pressing decisions going on
behind the things you seem to be concerned about right now.
You have taken only one side of an argument that has long been
fought and rallied up against the Jews, believe me again, not
many will take notice if you preach something no one wants to
hear in reality.
What you appear to have missed though, is the war that some are
engaged in at this time. Each battle must be carefully and
intricately proceeded with. It is not to be joked about nor taken
lightly.
I have skip read that blog you sent. With all due respect, I am
taking a different approach to what could be considered the same
argument you and others have rallied behind for many years(Since
1913). And yet you are not patient, but instead implement anger?
I will add....some things we are not saying at this time and will
choose wisely when to say them.
I know full well the effects of magic and spells, and yes the
world is being horribly misled. But if you understand the power
of 'energy' and how to use it correctly, you become aware of how
much IS actually an illusion. Don't think for one minute I am not
familiar on such matters, because most of the people around me
use this power on a daily basis.
As in respect with Mike. He has passed up on many various
opportunities to do countless radio and TV interviews, due to the
fact he also does not seek fame. But you have to understand one
inevitable thing about the truth. If it is to be told by any one
person, it is a sad fact that person will unfortunately have no
say in how famous they then become. It is part of the package in
revealing the truth.
I plan to say more on Mike's web pages. So please just bear with
us and trust that we have the knowledge about the timing. It is a
fine line now the human race walks between good and evil. I only
hope that good will prevail. Good luck in your quest.
Kathryn
Victoria
Bushfires repeated after 70 years.
----- Original
Message -----
From: Louis
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:20 PM
Subject: Victoria Bushfires repeated after 70 years.
Hi Mike
How are you going?
I would like to let you know: As you no doubt have heard by now,
Australia is suffering the worst bushfire tragedy in the state of
Victoria, after we have gone through the hottest day on record (46.4
degrees (117 degrees I believe)!) on Saturday.
I was actually expected something really bad this year because it
has been exactly 70 years since Black Friday Bushfires in 1939
where about 70 people have perished (the last bushfire of this
magnitude was Ash Wednesday in 1983 where about 40 people also
perished). Not certainly to the extent where towns were wiped out
and deaths reaching 128 so far and it is not even over. We are
still in shock of it.
To add to the tragedy, one of Australia's most respected and
loved newsreaders, Brian Naylor died along with his wife. (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25026070-661,00.html) He has been living in one
of the devastated areas, Kingslake.
Now I learnt that the figures of death toll could double to 230!
I just hope it isn't the case. However having witnessed the
bushfires' aftermath I can say it is very possible
Take Care
Louie
* * * * *
Hi Louie,
Thanks for the red alert! I also discovered when researching the
Black Friday Fires that there had been major fires in Tasmania (Black
Tuesday fires) in February 1967 ... which is also on the timeline!
(1939 + 28 = 1967 + 42 = 2009)
You can see your comments below and my comparisons of the
Victoria Fires with both Black Friday fires and the Tasmanian
Fires in a Red Alert on http://www.newprophecy.net/2009part4.htm
The base 7 principal is ALWAYS at work, irregardless if anyone
anticipates an event using the system or not.
Take care and thanks again,
Mike
----- Original
Message -----
From: Louis
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: Victoria Bushfires repeated after 70 years.
Hey Mike
no worries. Always glad to be of help.
Indeed the base 7 principal always works. It will happen again in
the future regardless as you said. just a matter of when.
I had totally forgot the Tasmanian fires. Really that is amazing.
I never thought this tragedy of such huge proportions would
happen here in Australia
least of all right near my home.
One thing I realised: This happened after almost 7 years after
the bali bombings tragedy. Although I am sure it is not totally
related but you cant help but think it's just a coincidence
although I dont believe in coincidences. But the timeline
is a bit off I would guess?
Have a great weekend Mike
Quick
question about "Selin"
----- Original
Message -----
From: Marko
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Quick question about "Selin"
Howdy,
I just stumbled across your website the other day, and on the
home page, at the top, you make reference to a person mention by
Nostradamus named "...Selin (which is a reference to Selena..."
I wonder if you have heard of Javier Solana, whose name is very
similar to Selin and Selena. He is, according to his wikipedia
entry, "the High Representative for the Common Foreign and
Security Policy (CFSP) and the Secretary-General of both the
Council of the European Union (EU) and the Western European Union
(WEU). He was named Secretary General of the 10 permanent member
Western European Union in November 1999."
You will see his name in many current news stories, as he
involves himself with various security and peace initiatives that
involve Europe or the EU.
Even more interesting is the information I recently ran across
about how his position came about. Did you know that his name is
twice associated with the number 666? I know, I know, everyone
and their cousin loves to use that number to try and figure out
who The Antichrist is. But this is the first time in my adult
life (I'm almost 50, and I've been studying Biblical prophecy
since I was a teen) that I really think there are grounds for
watching Solana (or anyone else who subsequently occupies his
office). The research into Solana and 666 can be found here:
http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/page/overview/
This is the best prophecy website from a Biblical viewpoint that
I have yet found.
I find other, "extra-Biblical" prophecies quite
interesting as well, which is how I found your website.
Just thought you might be interested in the above article on
Solana.
* * * * *
Hello Marko,
The name "Solana" does indeed sound like "Selena,"
however, be aware that Nostradamus is not using the word "Selena"
as an anagram or name. Rather, he is using "Selin" as a
rather complex symbol and anagram. It refers us to Selena, the
moon goddess, but it also refers us to Selim, a name taken by
several Muslim leaders during the latter Crusades, during
Nostradamus' life, and for a time after. The idea there was to
associate Selena the moon goddess with the crescent moon symbol
used by Muslim nations such as Algeria, the home of the Barbary
pirates, and also especially the Turks. In Nostradamus' time
Turkey was to the West what Iran is to the West today. All the
more amazing that Nostradamus foresaw Persia (Iran) as a major
antagonist of the West in his quatrains and not Byzantium (Turkey),
clearly skipping ahead five centuries to our time.
In any event, with this background on Selena, I think you can see
that Solana sounding like Selena is not only a coincidence, but
actually irrelevant. If Solana sounded or looked similar to Selin,
that would be the ticket.
The idea, then, is to find a name that sounds like "Selin"
or else a name or word that has the same meaning as Selena, that
is, it is associated with the moon. Of course, the word "moon"
itself will do just nicely.
My own view of "Selin" being "Moon" (as in
Reverend Sun Myung Moon or one of his sons) or, more likely, UN
Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon can be understood in this light. If
Ban Ki Moon pulls off something dramatic this year, such as
stopping a terrible war that would otherwise turn into a global
conflict, he will earn the right to have his name right up there
with Chyren/Chiren, providing he is still UN Secretary General
when this Chyren/Chiren is revealed and comes to power.
More likely, however, is that the Selin figure will be a Muslim (perhaps
the messianic al-Mahdi of Islam or the ruthless pro-Western
Sufyanni, the "great Arab" installed by the West?
possibly both will fulfill Selin some way, first the one, then
the other?) or else will simply stand for the Muslim crescent
moon symbol (Selim + Selena = Muslim moon). Thus, "Chiren
selin" could mean an alliance between the future "Christian"
King of Europe and the Sufyaani or the future Christian King of
Europe and the al-Mahdi. OR, it could mean Chiren/Chyren will
conquer the warring Muslim nations and then pacify their peoples
and bring peace upon them and peace upon Europe.
It is all very complex and I doubt we will know for certain in
which way or ways "Selin" will achieve fulfillment. It
may be fulfilled a number of ways.
I have heard about Javier Solana indeed. When the war in Bosnia
was raging in 1994 and 1995, he was highly visible on CNN cable
TV news as the Secretary General of Nato. I must tell you though,
when I saw him at that time, I sensed nothing in the least bit
sinister or evil about the man. Indeed, he seemed rather
unassuming, polite, quiet, soft-spoken, pragmatic, and with an
average sense of humour. The man is throughly unremarkable in my
opinion.
Yes, maybe 666 can be connected with his name. So can Ronald
Reagan, Henry Kissinger, Sun Myung Moon, anyone named Fox, and
virtually everyone with the last name of Windsor. For that matter,
so can my name as well. But I can assure you I have no desire to
rule the world nor is it ever likely to happen.
But we will watch Mr Solana all the same. People do change and
perhaps he has ambitions we are not aware of??
Nostradamus, I believe, does name him in one quatrain. Here it is:
Nostradamus,
Quatrain 10.62 ~
Near
Sorbia [E. Germany] for to assail Hungary, the diplomat of Bude [Budapest]
will come to warn them.
The Byzantine chief, Salona of Slavonia, will come to convert to
the law of the Arabs.
Slavonia once
belonged to the Balkan nation of Serbia and was often a
battleground between the Croats and Serbs both in the Serbo-Croat
War of 1991 and again during the conflict in Bosnia (which pitted
the Serbs against the Croats as well as Croats and Serbs against
Bosniaks). Eventually, during the final year of the Bosnian war
in 1995, it became a part of eastern Croatia.
I have to admit that Salona and Solana are remarkably similar.
Perhaps by calling him a "Byzantine" chief, Nostradamus
is saying Solana, again in a senior military command role in Nato
or the Eu, will direct the Western forces fighting the Russians
and the non-Arab Muslims (Iranians, Shi'a-governed Iraqis, Shi'a
Kurds, Turkish Kurds, eastern Turks, Sharia Afghans, Azeris,
Turkomens, Uzbeks, Kazahks, Pakistanis, Muslim Kashmiris, Muslim
Indians, etc) in the Central/East European Theatre and the Levant.
To Nostradamus, "Byzantine" could mean more than merely
Turkey, it could also mean the rest of the Balkans (including the
former Yugoslavia), Romania, Hungary, Transdniester, Moldova,
southern Ukraine, etc, and even Syria, Lebanon, Israel, and
Palestine (which were colonised by the Byzantine knights and
where ruins of castles can still be found). It takes a discerning
eye to know when "Byzantine" is intended to mean Turkey
and when it is intended to mean the nations of Europe and
southwest Asia that once comprised the Byzantine Empire.
In our own time, it is clear that this is a Christian (or "Christian")
commander in the Balkans because the final line says he will
"come to convert to the law of the Arabs." My guess is
that he will convert to the Sunni brand of Islam because the
broader implication is that the Arabs, possibly under a coming,
super Sunni Arab (the Sufyaani), will be allied with the West
against the non-Arab Shi'a and Sharia Muslims led by Iran and
Afghanistan.
In other quatrains we are told that Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia
will become a battleground yet again, and that Arab blood will be
spilled in the Adriatic Sea. Yet it is "barbarians"
that take control of Dalmatia. I suspect the Arabs, actually
often placed in a good light if you really look, are pitted
against the "barbarians" ... and these are the Shi'a
and Sharia peoples of the eastern Middle East, Central Asia, and
Southern Asia, led by the Persians (Iran). Thus, Western forces
under Javier Solana will team up with the Arabs to re-take the
Balkans (making Javier Solana "Solana of Slavonia").
So, when fighting is in the Hungarian theatre, and Nostradamus
talks about this in one of his "Castor and Pollux"
quatrains that appears to pit the US against Russia in Hungary,
Vojvodina (northern Serbia), and Ukraine, Javier Solana will lead
his European-Arab force from the Balkans into the region. Either
that or this is a re-taking of Hungary, with Arab help, after the
Russians have been defeated.
Anyway, that's my take on a very convoluted quatrain that seems
to be about Javier Solana.
Thanks for bringing up such an interesting, albeit complex,
subject.
Warm regards,
Mike
December
12th 2012
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: December 12th 2012
Hi Mike,
I just wondered what your thoughts are on the Mayan prophecy of
December 12th 2012 also did Nostradamus say anything about this
time ?
All I can find out is that the earth will be in the centre of the
universe...all the plants will be inline and the " cycle
" will be complete.
Have you thought about making a page on the Mayan Prophecy or can
you give me more information ?
I have read that Nostradamus, Edgar Casey, and Mother Shipton all
point to the date as being a major change for humanity or even
the end of the earth.
Also another intresting fact that I read somewhere was that the
Mayan tribes Aztec Calendar that supposedly highly accurate and
prophetic was written in the year 3797bc, I dont know if this is
true but I do know that Nostradamus named the year 3797 in his
prophecies.
Anyway I just wondered what your thoughts are on the subject and
if you would share them with me.
Many Thanks,
Ross.
* * * * *
Hi Ross,
All I know about the Mayan calendar "end date" of
December 21, 2012 is that it is alleged by modern Internet/media
doomsayers to mark the end of time, the end of human history, etc.
In fact it marks only the end of a cycle. What these people fail
to tell you is that on December 22, 2012 the calendar continues
and a new cycle begins.
Are the planets all aligned at that time? I don't know, haven't
done the research ... the Mayan perspective seems to be rather
unique anyway since no other civilisation or religion warns or
has warned about the significance of 2012.
Edgar Cayce may have warned about 2012 in his writings, I don't
know. I have never read them all since they are quite extensive
and certainly not all concern themselves with prophecy. However,
what I do recall Cayce warning about was that earth changes would
reach a horrifying crescendo in 1998-2000 and that 2001 would see
the earth shifting its axis ... and if it did not do so in 2001,
that "a new cycle will begin." How long would the
"new cycle" be? He doesn't say.
Nostradamus and Mother Shipton say absolutely nothing about 2012
as far as I know.
I don't know about the Mayan's calendar beginning in the year
3797 BC. Never heard of that one. But Nostradamus did say the
physical destruction of our planet would occur in 3797 AD.
I get the feeling right there that some people are taking bits
and pieces of other prophecies, like Nostradamus' 3797 AD
prophecy above, and trying to attach them in some way to the
whole Mayan thing.
The only other thing I have heard about the Mayan year 2012 is
that mankind's machines, appliances, etc are supposed to rise up
against us, attacking us and rebuking us for all our wrong-doings.
Or maybe that is another Central/South American indian prophecy.
No, there is not enough material to justify a "Mayan
Prophecy" page that I can see.
Even so, I will have two series of 2012 pages up in the near
future (and 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 too).
Sorry if I sound less than enthusiastic about the Mayan calendar
prophecy. Actually, in a way, they will be right I suppose:
according to the base 7 system, 2012 will be a very horrible year
if we manage to survive 2009.
Take care,
Mike
Sincerely
Concerned
----- Original
Message -----
From: T
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: Sincerely Concerned
I am very concerned because your site is something my good friend
is reading every day and is very scared and upset about. He is
panicking daily worrying about a prediction coming true. Every
day he runs as far away from this city as he can and then comes
back and does it all over again the next day. I know that you
have the best intentions but how can I or you assure him that
there is reason to panic and run every day? I really need your
advice on this because he is very scared and so am I -- for him.
Thanks so much.
* * * * *
Dear T,
There are very good reasons why he should not panic.
For one thing, not everything that is predicted will come true.
Whilst I may have been right about the stock market, the invasion
of Georgia by Russia, look at Hillary Clinton: predictions, such
as mine, that she would win the presidency failed, and some very
major figures in prediction (such as John Hogue) were also
absolutely certain she would. What is more there was established
prophecy, such as the tenth prophecy of William Branham (with the
first nine prophecies successfully fulfilled since they were made
in 1933), that indicated a woman would win the election and be
supported by the women's vote. Not only did Hillary fail to win,
but even Sarah Palin failed to win the vice presidency.
The future can be changed. That is the point of my website being
there. It is not to say "Look at all the horrible things
that will happen and there is absolutely nothing we can do about
it," but rather, "look what might happen if we or our
leaders are careless and nothing is done to change it."
Aside from collective and individual responsibility for what
happens in the future, however, there are times things just do
not happen because the time is simply not right.
I hope you understand the subtle difference between predictions
and prophecies. Anyone can predict the future using various kinds
of systems, such as astrology or numerology. Prophecy, on the
other hand, is allegedly divine revelation of the future by God
or some other deity, angel, supernatural figure, etc. I make
predictions calculated by close examination of how God's perfect
number, 7, has been involved in past events recurring at
intervals of 7 years or multiples of 7 years ( such as 14, 21, 28,
35 etc). What I project is a likelihood of an event occurring at
a certain time as opposed to a prophecy of an event that will
happen for certain some day. Sometimes, however, I will see cases
where a prophecy could support my prediction and will make
mention of it. That still doesn't mean I will be right.
In any event, the following is true about the future:
1) The future is not fixed
2) Most predictions of events made using a system can be changed
or prevented from happening, some events will fail to occur at
all if the timing is wrong, many events that do happen can be
mitigated
3) The strongest prophecies, such as Bible prophecies, are not
even dated ... thus we are always guessing or estimating when
they will be fulfilled based on other clues
4) The strongest prophecies, such as those in the Book of
Revelation, will happen some day ... but the outcome of those
events that are prophesied can be changed or mitigated
I will leave you with a famous quote from a book which I often
use to illustrate the truth about future events:
The nineteenth century novelist Charles Dickens seeks to assure
his readers that the future is not set in stone, literally, in A
Christmas Carol when the central character Ebenezer Scrooge is
shown his very own headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future and
queries in great dread and trepidation: 'Are these the shadows
of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that
May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to
which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be
departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you
show me!'
Scrooge gets his answer when the spectre beckons again and
Scrooge finds himself alive and well in his bedchamber ... with
many years of a good and happier life still remaining to him.
Mike
Promised
Warrior?
----- Original
Message -----
From: David
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: Promised Warrior?
Mike
Here's a relevant prophecy from sources most Christians would
ignore. However, in my search for the truth I look at all sources
good or bad, because there is bad in the good and good in the bad.
So consider the following:
When Barack Hussein Obama (Barry Soetoro) went to mosques he
sited the prayer in Arabic, Allah is repeated many times in the
ritual.
Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help
the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?
The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a
pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a
Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar
al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum
opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.
According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's
cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and
just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a
"tall black man will assume the reins of government in the
West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth,"
the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign"
from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The
tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he
is with us."
In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack
Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and
Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet,
reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic
formula in Majlisi's tradition.
Following are some of the attributes of the 12th Imam Mahdi (=
Antichrist?) according to their own Islamic sources. Christians
should note that the resemblance to the Antichrist is striking to
say the least:
1. He will appear suddenly near the end of time in Mecca.
2. He will be descended from Mohammed.
3. He will stutter.
4. He will shine like an Israelite.
5. He will unite and reform the Muslims.
6. He will have a mole on his left or right cheek.
7. His eyebrows will mix.
8. He will rule Islam from Jerusalem for 7 years. Note that
according to Scripture, Antichrist rules the world from Jerusalem
for seven years.
9. He will have hundreds of close companions including Elijah,
Elisha, the Seven Sleepers, and al-Khidr.
10. His coming will be announced by earthquakes, sea storms, and
a fire over the sky of Basra.
11. He will be a fanatical Muslim.
12. Mahdi the archaeologist: He is called the guided one because
he will be guided to the place of the Ark. He will find the Ark
of the Covenant. A group of Jews and Christians will come to
debate him. Just as they declare victory, he will produce a copy
of the real Bible from the Ark. The Jews and Christians will then
admit that Islam was right all long and convert. Some will refuse
and be subsequently beheaded. Note that beheading is Antichrist's
preferred method of execution according to Revelation.
13. A mountain of gold will be discovered under the Euphrates.
14. The people of Iraq will help him.
15. The world will love him. Note that the world will marvel
after Antichrist.
16. He will have a gap between his tooth.
17. He will receive guidance and knowledge from Allah.
18. He will be helped by Jesus. Note that Antichrist will be
helped by the Beast. Despite the fact that Jesus is a messenger
of Allah and Mahdi is only a caliph of Allah, Jesus will pray
behind Mahdi.
19. He will be charismatic, young, and very handsome. Half the
women of Rome will convert to Islam in the hope of joining his
harem. But Antichrist lacks the desire of women.
20. He will fill the world with peace and justice.
21. A great army will march against him in Syria. However, the
earth will open up and swallow this army. Scripture calls
Antichrist the Assyrian.
22. He will receive aid from the East. Mohammed reportedly said,
"Many armies will come after me. You must join the one from
Khorasan. That is the army of the caliph."
23. Mahdi must battle Gog, Magog, and Dajjal; the Islamic
Antichrist.
24. He will be beardless.
25. He will be rich and will give wealth to the people of the
world freely. He will cause crops to grow. Antichrist and Beast
will have great power on earth.
26. His personality will be similar to Mohammed's.
Sincerely
David
* * * * *
UT
poll shows McCain, Cornyn with comfortable margins
Poll
finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim
Obama is a
Christian who was embroiled in a controversy earlier this
year about his two-decade membership in Chicago's Trinity
United Church of Christ. Yet just 45 percent of those polled
identified the Illinois senator as a Protestant.
The Obama-is-a-Muslim
confusion is caused by fallacious Internet rumors and radio
talk-show gossip. McCain went so far at one of his town hall
meetings to grab a microphone from a woman who claimed that
Obama was an Arab.
The Texas
numbers are unusual because most national polls show that
just 5 to 10 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a
Muslim less than half the number of Texans who buy
into the debunked theories ...
It is possible
that Barack Obama may be the "tall black man (who) will
assume the reins of government in the West" commanding
"the strongest army on earth" ... but at least some of
the rest is unlikely.
... Not unless Obama makes a special peace with the Muslim world
and brings about a rapprochement with Iran. He could, after all,
be a good friend to the Muslim world without actually being a
Muslim himself.
Before I discuss the personification of the beast/Antichrist
aspect of this allow me to remind you what I think you probably
may agree to be true: for endtime prophecy to be fulfilled all
the right conditions must be met. Not one detail can fail to
occur. It is for this reason we have witnessed a string of major
national leaders or world leaders over the centuries that have
fit the role of the beast, yet have failed to fulfill the destiny
of the personification as prophesied in the Book of Revelation
and in the Book of Daniel.
Every generation the powers that be attempt to promote a
candidate, a man, who will fulfill this role. As we have seen
history demonstrate, sometimes these candidates work against the
interests of TPTB and are killed. President John F. Kennedy was a
good example of this. When he gave a speech about the existence
of secret societies and how his administration would not tolerate
the existence of such societies or their secret proceedings, he
was sending a message to TPTB that he would not follow their
dictates or grand designs but rule according to his own will, by
the letter of the law, and with the nation's best interests at
heart, first and foremost. Because of this he was assassinated.
Past would-be antichrists like Hitler could not succeed in
fulfilling the destiny of the beast because the other players,
such as the false prophet, were not in place. Not all the
chesspieces were available for the match, in other words.
The Book of Revelation, like the pertaining chapters in the Book
of Daniel, is like a recipe book: it has to be fulfilled detail
by detail from Revelation 1 all the way to Revelation 13 (the
chapter in which the beast appears). During the last 2000 years
there have been several notable close calls for "the great
earthquake" that follows the opening of the sixth seal. For
example the eruptions of Vesuvius, Krakatau, Tambora, Pelee and
the asteroid explosion at Tunguska came close to fulfilling this
prophecy because of the widespread tsunamis, tidal waves,
firestorms, strong winds, strange atmospheric effects, and
climate changes, yet all of these still fell considerably short.
Also, all events and personifications that follow from Revelation
14 through Revelation 18 and in the Book of Daniel must occur.
When someone appears to fufill a personality out of endtime
prophecy, but not all the other conditions are being met, we call
this person an archetype. Antiochus Epiphanes was the earliest
archetype for the beast/Antichrist because he lived at the wrong
time: he lived and died long before Christ was even born and not
during the latter days or time of the end. Napoleon and Hitler
were archetypes because other conditions in the Books of
Revelation and Daniel were not met. When JFK became president he
met certain requirements. The famous actress Marilyn Monroe also
may have been the first real attempt to create a personification
of the whore of Babylon. Yet, no personification for the false
prophet existed. Perhaps there was a search for such a
personality in progress. If one was found, we will never know.
Monroe and Kennedy became expendable and were both assassinated
because they rebelled against TPTB and threatened to expose them.
Nevertheless, Marilyn Monroe and John F Kennedy were archetypes
for the whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 and the beast of
Revelation 13. Had these two followed their programming, Monroe
might have married into the Kennedy family via Bobby Kennedy and
become political. As a future first lady, she could have become
the "queen of Babylon" of Revelation 18, combining the
roles of both the WOB and QOB.
Today Madonna is the archetype for the whore of Babylon, or to be
more specfic, the "woman" and "mother of harlots"
who appears in Revelation 17. It would appear that the "queen
of Babylon" who appears in Revelation 18 is a different
personality, possibly Sarah Palin in some capacity.
(UPDATE NOTE, 1-21-09:
Hillary Clinton once again will qualify as the QOB of Revelation
18 in the role of US Secretary of State along with her reputation
as former Senator of New York - MM)
And now we have
Barack Obama, a potential fulfillment of the beast.
There is no question that he and Hillary Clinton were called
before the Bildenberg Group who make up a part of TPTB (or NWO).
They have made their decision and Obama is their choice.
However, I believe that Obama, like John F Kennedy, is made of
nobler stuff and will choose his own path, endangering his life
in the process. He, like Madonna, will likely never fulfill bible
endtime prophecy. They will be archetypes instead.
It is even possible TPTB cut a deal and made him the next Reagan.
The first big hint TPTB were looking 30
years ahead for a possible fulfillment of endtime prophecy was
when they named the asteroid that will almost certainly strike
earth in April 2036 Apophis ("Destroyer").
This time around, instead of ending the Cold War between the
Soviet Union and the United States as Reagan did, Obama will end
the horrible relations between the United States and the Muslim
world. I agree with that.
Now comparing Christian endtime prophecy with Muslim endtime
prophecy is an inexact science. There are similarities, yet there
are glaring differences.
To me the most brutal political figure in Muslim endtime prophecy
is the Sufyaani (the
final one). His cruelty and inhuman acts stand out like no other.
We are told in one hadith that he has the support of the West. As
leader of Syria and Sham he would be well-placed regionally to
implement a peace with Israel, crushing all opposition and all
enemies of Israel and his Western benefactors ruthlessly. In a
word he would be perfect in the role of the beast/Antichrist.
The Dajjal, interestingly enough, sounds much more like the
Christian version of the false prophet than he does the beast/Antichrist.
He performs miracles and feats of magic. The beast is a political
animal with heretical religious beliefs who ultimately comes to
believe he is a god. The false prophet, on the other hand,
supports the policies of the beast and enforces his reign through
supernatural deeds (such as calling down fire from the sky and
making statues walk and speak). Note that the Dajjal likewise "makes
a fire of a garden and a garden of fire."
He is surrounded by a strange people we might call "new age."
On the other hand he is one-eyed and wooly-haired like certain
archetypes and prophecies of the beast.
Thus, both characters seem to appear in the personage of Dajjal.
However, the overwhelming similarities are to the false prophet.
Who then is the Mahdi? Nothing less than an Islamic messiah and
the enemy of the beast (Sufyaani) and false prophet (Dajjal). In
Islamic prophecy, the Dajjal outlives the Sufyaani. In Christian
prophecy, the beast and false prophet are both destroyed nearly
simultaneously by being cast alive by angels into the Lake of
Fire (or Second Death as it is also called).
I believe the Mahdi appears in Christian prophecy in the Book of
Daniel as the final "king of the south" (Arabia) who
will war with the Antichrist at the time of the end. Since he is
also leader of those of the black banners of Khurasan (Afghanistan,
Tajikistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan), by default he
also becomes the greatest of the Eastern kings in the Book of
Revelation who rush to defeat Antichrist in the Battle of
Armageddon. He may have as many as 200 million men under him
during this final battle.
But as I say, there are discrepancies and disagreements about
such comparisons. The big problem is one of timing.
But prophecy is always a case of seeing the future through a
glass darkly. What we see at best is a facsimile of what will
actually happen. So I am more pleasantly surprised by the
similarities between Christian and Muslim endtime prophecy than I
am put off by the differences.
Finally, if Barack Obama should merely be yet another Western
archetype for the beast/Antichrist (as I suspect he will be), we
are given a good idea by Nostradamus, Johannes Trithemius, and
the Hebrew calendar when the beast and false prophet will finally
appear: not until either seven years or 42 months before the year
2240, 2242, or 2243.
Still, I keep both a long view and a short view ... because God
may decide to bring events to their ultimate conclusion sooner
rather than later. One never knows.
Mike
Missed
Predictions
----- Original Message -----
From: V
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: Missed Predictions
Hello Mike,
I have been following your web site for quite some time now. I
have noticed that sometimes some of your predictions come true,
but somewhere else or in some other form. For example; you said
that a US rescue mission would fail this year, ( I can only
assume its because of the base 7 of the Iranian hostage rescue
attempt ) and as of now, that has yet to happen, but in that same
month of this year there was the US hostage rescue of the FARC
prisoners and I am wondering why you haven't made that a "prediction
partially fulfilled" or whatnot.
I have seen it before too. Your prediction of massive riots
against the US in Egypt for Jan '08 did not come true, but that
same month there were massive protests in South Korea against the
US.
Another miss-diction was when you predicted that Iran would test-fire
a nuke, which didn't happen, but North Korea tested their nuke
exactly when you said Iran would.
Basically what I'm getting at is, would you consider these to be
fulfilled prophecies? How can you pinpoint exactly where an event
will take place? Also I'd like to ask a unrelated question. What
is your opinion on the likely hood of WW3 happening in '09? And
what will the post-WW3 world be like?
Thanks, and get well soon,
-V
* * * * *
Hi V,
Thanks for bringing up this "misdirected prediction"
situation as it is both a frustrating experience for me to see,
for example (and as you point out) North Korea conducting a
nuclear test the same month and year I said Iran would, and a
fascinating bit of evidence that, nevertheless, in slightly
different ways the base 7 trend or patterning continues to play
out. I wish everyone had your powers of observation because, if
they did, they would understand just how powerful a phenomenon
base 7 actually is and why it is so very reliable a bellweather
for establishing future outcomes of long-standing trends.
Technically-speaking the base 7 system is virtually 100% correct
nearly all the time ... rather, it is I, the one using the system,
who is making miscalculations in using the knowledge I possess. I
would imagine a super-computer would do a much better job than I
using the base 7 system!
Nevertheless, it would also be a good thing to realise that it is
possible for humans and other entities to intervene in this
clockwork prophecy puzzle and gum up the works! Take the Big
Brown prediction: everyone who knows anything about horse racing
KNOWS that Big Brown should have won the Triple Crown this year.
He did enter the Derby undefeated with more races to his credit
than any other previous horse since 1913. It was destined that he
win and I was right to predict that whoever the horse was who
would win the Kentucky Derby in 2008 would go on to be the winner
at the Preakness and the Belmont. Something went wrong, and it
was not my calculation that went wrong either. There are still
lingering reports that Big Brown had not been properly outfitted
with a shoe on one of its hooves before the race and that it came
off, causing the animal great pain and obviously great injury if
the jockey had insisted on pushing for a win. Anyone who knows
about horse racing will tell you that race was fixed, but no one
wants to say so publicly.
One reason for tampering with this horse was its "undefeated"
record. Because Big Brown was a "sure thing" no one
could make any real money on the race. He was too good to be true.
Unless there is risk, there is little money to be won. The field
offered nothing other than losers (including the horse that won
had Big Brown not been tampered with). Someone with a lot of
money had Big Brown shod carelessly so he or she could make a
killing betting against him. There were a number of bets placed
against Big Brown that actually made no sense under the
circumstances ... unless the betters knew something.
So here is a good example of how human intervention can change
the outcome of an otherwise faultless prediction.
Thanks for telling me about the FARC mission. I was not aware of
it at the time ... and I know why. In late February after a night
of drinking brandy, I awoke the next day suffering from extreme
vertigo. I thought perhaps it was the alcohol that caused it ( I
do not drink to excess very often and, for that matter, not
moderately that often either being more of a coffee hound). The
vertigo would not go away, not even after five days. It was
horrible and it was especially bad lying my head on the pillow,
then the entire room spun around for what seemed 30 seconds
making me think I would die. I was put on an anti-vertigo med
that made me very sleepy .. which is bad because I have sleep
apnea besides and that can cause a bit of narcolepsy. On March 5
I went out to eat. Driving home my blood pressure must have
dropped really low and I passed out at the wheel. I awoke 15
seconds later, smashing into a stop sign, a guardrail, and then
plummeted off a small cliff into a deep ditch of water. I was
unhurt, but the car was totalled. I spent three days in hospital
for examination. Not much was actually resolved by my being there.
Finally, in late April, I went to a specialist who cured me of
the vertigo. There are exercises I can now perform she taught me
so if it ever comes back I will likely prevent a bad case of it
again. The apnea is not yet resolved because I am on the wrong
machine and need a new sleep study, but the narcolepsy seems to
happen much less often now, thank goodness.
So, I was not very much "on the ball" about everything
that was happening in the news back in the late winter and spring
I am afraid, thus missed this FARC mission. You are correct: that
would be a PREDICTION PARTIALLY FULFILLED or else CLOSE ... I
need to familiarise myself with the details to determine which.
Regarding what happened in South Korea instead of Egypt, again,
for personal reasons I will not get into in the latter part of
the month, I was a bit out of the loop where events were
concerned. Also I was trying to catch the web site up to 2008 as
it was a new year.
Even so, what happened in South Korea, instead of Egypt, is a
mechanism I do not entirely understand. It is why there was a
major airliner crash in Spain rather than in the Middle East and
another in Russia rather than the United States ... at the times
base 7 alterted or predicted.
There appears to be a migratory nature to some base 7 patterns
which I have sometimes called "translocation." It is
rare for accidents to occur in the same location twice until at
least a good 21 or 28 years have passed (sometimes much less and
sometimes much more). Often we will see a grand return after 70
years: Jean Harlow (1937) = Anna Nicole Smith (2007); hurricane
strikes Long Island causing major flooding (1937) = Nor' Easter
striking New York City and causing major flooding (2007); and
other instances. Even longer periods do we have to wait sometimes,
like the dread 98th anniversary: Lincoln assassinated in 1865 =
Kennedy assassinated in 1963.
Anyway, getting an accident right is a bit hit and miss because
of the migratory nature of accidents. Nevertheless, one stands a
good 50/50 or 75/25 chance of getting a repeat using the base 7
system.
Translocation (or migration of location in a trend) happens a
little less frequently when dealing with war or warlike events,
political events, and such. Take World War II and the Pacific
migration. The US was at war with North Korea in 1950 and again
with North Vietnam in 1964 after the Gulf of Tonkin attack.
Although the US war dates with Japan during World War II do not
fit the Korea-Vietnam timeline, it established the Pacific as the
arena of conflict for some time to come. In 1971 Vietnam not only
did not go away, but spread to Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand. By
1978 Cambodia was the new "killing fields" .. but
without US participation.
However, by 1985 the Pacific had ceased to be the arena of
conflict. The trend was undergoing migration. Had anyone used the
base 7 system during the early 1980s, they would have either made
the mistake of predicting yet another Pacific conflict in 1985 or
else, noting a migration of concern towards the Persian Gulf in
1980, might have predicted a major US war with Iran or Iraq in
1985. Again, that person would have been wrong about the dating
at least since the US did not enter the Iran-Iraq War until 1987.
One can easily understand the migration from the Far East to the
Middle East, but why the start of conflict would be gummed up by
two years is not easy to explain. Perhaps this was due to mass
paranoia at that time that 1985 would be the start of World War
III or because of the new developments in the relationship
between the Soviet Union and the United States. Human concern
delayed the war by two years, until an allegedly errant Iraqi
Exocet missile changed all that in May 1987.
Now more confident, our imaginary base 7 calculator would have
either seen the two year switch as a gum-up and stuck to the
timeline which would next occur in 1992 or else would have
planned to assert a new timeline in 1994. He/she would have
called a major Middle East war in 1992 and been shocked to see
Operation Desert Storm occur in 1991 .. a year early. Of course
this fell short of World War III, but encouraged on by cheers of
approval and awe our persistent base 7 technician would be all
ready to bet the farm on 1999, which would have yielded
disastrous results.
Another migration had occurred in the meantime from the Middle
East to the Balkans (in Slovenia) at exactly the same time as
Operation Desert Storm and the genocide of the Kurds that
followed came to an end in April 1991. Then came a more violent
struggle between Serbia and Croatia in August 1991, but was
fortunately short-lived.
Thus, in April 1992 the first of the two most serious and major
of the Balkans wars began in Bosnia-Herzogovina. It would also be
the longest of the Balkans wars. To get 1999 right and identify
the theatre of conflict as the former Yugoslavia (The Kosovo War),
our intrepid base 7 prognosticator could have ill afforded to
ignore that the war in Bosnia began in 1992.
On the other hand, if he/she had heeded the gum-up and
extrapolated from 1987 to 1994, a confused mess would have been
their lot long before 1999. The Balkans would not have been
foreseen and Bosnia would be in its third year. As for the Middle
East, save for a weak, ineffective second move to take Kuwait by
Saddam Hussein, a move quickly repelled by Clinton within a week,
1994 would yield nothing else.
Would he/she have the nerve to push ahead for a war in the Middle
East in 2001? With so much hanging on 1999 it is doubtful, but
had they done so they would have been rewarded. And I did so ...
and was right. 911 happened, then the war in Afghanistan,
followed by the war between Israel and the West Bank/Lebanon/Syria
in March and April 2002 and then the US war in Iraq a year later
made my prediction technically correct, but wrong as to sequence
and degree of conflict.
Now we await to see if a major Middle East war breaks out this
year like no other one before it. Yet, even as we wait, have I
taken into consideration the slight migration from Middle East/Persian
Gulf to Afghanistan in Central Asia in 2001???? Instead of a war
involving Iran and the US, Israel and Lebanon/Syria, Turkey and
Iraq, all blending together are we instead heading for a
repetition of Afghanistan and a migration into Pakistan and India????
Or will the actual Arab-Israeli conflict hold off until April
2009 and war with Iran until March 2010??? Will the dreaded
Russian invasion of the Balkans and then Europe actually occur in
2012 or 2013??
World War III will either break out in the Middle East this
autumn or begin no later than April 2009. World War III in Europe
will follow by August 2009 ... UNLESS THERE IS A CEASEFIRE.
Prospects for a ceasefire in August 2009 are very good. If that
occurs, World War III will not begin again in the Middle East
until a violation occurs in June-August 2011 with a Russian-Iranian
blockade of the Persian Gulf. The crisis will stew until January
2012 and then all hell will break loose in the Middle East. World
War III will then migrate via Turkey and the Balkans as a Russian-Iranian
invasion of Europe in August 2012.
Aftermath will be horrible, beginning in either 2010 or 2013,
depending on when WW3 in Europe begins (2009 or 2012). I will
show with images and words in new 2010- 2016 pages (two sets of
each year). I will show the events of a troubled but great "little
peace" that may come from August 2009 until January 2012 if
ceasefire is declared.
After WW3 is waged in Europe in either 2009 or 2012, I will show
the resulting destruction of the United States and parts of
Russia, civil wars in the UK, Italy, Germany, and Russian
federation, revolution in France and a second reign of terror
that will spread from France throughout seven other European
nations, anti-Christian policies, mass exterminations, new
religions demanding human sacrifice, a monstrous puppet leader
shoved on to the people by the Muslims who will be like the beast
of Revelation ... four or six years of horror, torture, suffering,
and death before the people are at last liberated by a royal
house of France in 2016 and the monster destroyed. This does not
include the additional horror of plague that will arrive in April
2013.
However, it is possible we can avoid a ceasefire violation and
postpone World War III until 2038 ... the year it is intended to
begin.
Anyway, I am glad you are paying attention. I wish everyone would
understand the system and its complexities as well as you seem to.
I will certainly make mention by year's end of some of these mis-predicted
events, if not give myself some well-deserved partial points for
each.
Thanks again,
Mike
Brigade
Homeland Tour
----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Brigade Homeland Tour
Michael,
Check this link out. This scared the hell out of me when I read
it. It's not good at all.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
- Shaun
* * * * *
Hi Shaun,
Hmmmm.. I don't know. Close reading of this article, if anything,
is rather reassuring that the army is being trained to help
civilians, not kill them .. for example training in the use of 'the
jaws of life' and other life-saving procedures.. and of course
crowd control and chaos in the event of an earthquake or
terrorist attack. Even there they discuss non-lethal methods of
crowd control, such as tasers and are hinting, I think, of the
new microwave energy beam weapon they have developed. Let's face
it, there will be chaos and rioting to some degree during a
crisis ... we can't pretend there will be universal calm and
cooperation. And why bother to 'save' lives if you are really
planning on mass extermination?
This article was written for army people by army people and those
interested in the armed forces, so there is no reason for the
author to lie here.
Of course the issue of camps and the millions of plastic coffins
is not addressed at all.
Regarding the plastic coffins it is not impossible that they were
made in anticipation of a horrific disaster in the Eastern United
States. I read a prophecy once somewhere that millions of people
would be killed in the Eastern US after an asteroid impact or
sudden sinking of a volcanic island in the Atlantic Ocean, either
probably related to Planet X, and that these bodies would have to
be shipped by trains to the northwest for burial in mass graves
as quickly as possible to avoid the spread of disease that would
break out from all the decay. So perhaps there is a logical
explanation for all the coffins other than as evidence that there
is a sinister government plan for mass depopulation.
As for the detention camps there is also an alternative
explanation for that. The United States may be invaded from
Central and South America by several million Latin American
troops allied with Russia, China, Iran and Syria (and part of
their militaries may be included in the number of invaders). I
have dreamt such a scenario before happening in a summer month
and there is base 7 evidence such an event could occur. I'm not
sure, but I think there is even an actual prophecy about an
invasion from the south.
In the event that occurs, there no longer is any mystery what the
camps are for. When I look back at the huge number of Cuban
refugees that came to the US in 1980 I start to think also: how
many of the approximately 800 detention camps in the US would
have been needed to house all those Cubans had they had them then?
Since several million of them came over here, I would say quite a
few of the camps would have been needed. As it was, due to the
lack of such detention camps at that time, the government had to
set up scores of makeshift camps all over the Florida panhandle
and the Gulf of Mexico anywhere they could, including underneath
expressways and freeways.
Yeah, and if that ever happened again, I'd prefer the barbed wire
was pointed to keep the refugees in.
I have to admit there are credible scenarios to explain the
existence of detention camps, double decker railroad cars, and
huge numbers of plastic coffins.
But even if this is the real truth behind their existence, how
many Americans would believe it??? Trust in the US leadership is
currently at an all-time low and paranoia induced by Internet
conspiracies is at an all-time high. I am not sure what to
believe anymore myself.
Mike
Another
popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in truck crash
----- Original Message -----
From: Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:02 AM
Subject: Another popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in
truck crash.
Hi Mike
hope you are coping well.
Well another Aussie presenter has been injured seriously in a
monster truck accident. Grant Denyer's crushed a vertebrae in his
back into about half a dozen pieces.
(http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/633099/denyer-injured-in-monster-truck-crash) Seems we have a lot of 'celebrity
accidents' lately here in Aussieland.
While I still have you, I would like to bring up two Aussie
personalities who have passed on in the past year.
Similar in the vein of Charmaine Dragun query. Sports commentator
and a reality TV show contestant.
One of Aussie's original Big Brother housemate died in Sept 2007
(http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22415081-662,00.html)
A well known and respected Australian sport commentator, Clinton
Grybas died in January 5th this year (http://news.theage.com.au/sport/police-probe-commentator-grybas-death-20080105-1kbw.html and http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23013577-601,00.html). His death was a mystery at first but
concluded that he died while sleepwalking falling after hitting
something in his apartment I believe..
I guess my query which is similar to Charmaine Dragun query, is:
is there such a thing like sports presenter's or a reality star's
death in previous years can repeat again 7 years later?
Thank you and as always look forward to hearing from you.
Louie
* * * * *
Hi Louie,
I'll run Grant Denyer through the name sound filter, along with a
few others I haven't done yet. Don't be surprised if there are no
important matches in certain cases. Celebrities, like regular
people, DO die simply because they do and it has nothing to do
with a special death line they happened to be on or whether their
name matches some other celebrity. I do submit, however, that a
pattern of coincidence that is more than mere coincidence occurs
in the lives and deaths of the famous and infamous and, to some
extent, regular people a large part of time. But certainly we can
dimiss up to 25% of deaths, on average in any given year, as
simply being random.
I have never done a study of sportcasters and reality stars to
see if there are patterns or base 7 links. Reality TV is still
too new or recent a phenomenon yet to conduct studies that are
much more than 7 years old. Were there reality TV shows 14 years
ago in 1994? I can't seem to recall any.
Even in the case of TV presenters, which go back as long as
television has been around (60 years), we find cases of similar
death of presenters corresponding to a base 7 timeline rather
meagre. Most have died of natural causes. Technically the most
outstanding cases thus far have been Chris Hubbock who committed
suicide live on TV (who was a woman by the way, and not a man ...
that is why I used her when trying to compare Jill Dando with
Charmaine Dragun), Jessica Savitch, Jill Dando, Christopher Price,
Peter Jennings, Mark Speight, and now Charmaine Dragun. And of
course being a TV presenter can mean many and various things:
from news shows to kiddie shows. In terms of the news, not many
incidents have occurred despite 60 years of television.
Sportscasters, who can say? That requires an exhausting amount of
research that may be well worth the trouble when things are
relatively slow and I am caught up with my site. But that will be
some time away yet.
No link is impossible. I am sure if the statistics were available,
we could find patterns linking the deaths of professional
jugglers, ventriloquists, gourmet chefs, chiefs of police, and
even street cleaners ... especially if we are going to use
examples from every country in the world. I would shudder to do a
study of deaths in India where life is cheap and suicide is
higher than anywhere else on the planet. So, of course, I have to
narrow my research within a narrower, more reasonable field.
Adding Australia and, I suppose New Zealand, to a study of
Western nations is understandable and has my approval, although
some viewers may feel alienated by unfamiliar names (other than
internationally known ones like Kylie Minogue, Geoffrey Rush,
Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, or Olivia Newton-John or famous
classic rock bands like AC/DC or Midnight Oil).
Now, of course, Asian celebrities from places like South Korea,
Japan, China, India, and the Middle East are making inroads to
Western media attention via the Internet ... people we otherwise
might not even know about, save for about 1%. It makes the job
more difficult using the base 7 system on a global scale where
individuals are concerned. Still, it is amazing the patterns I
have found, for example, with those who have chosen to fall from
a high place (usually an apartment balcony) from Elizabeth
Hartmann in the West, to Soud Hosni in Egypt, to Ruslana
Korshunova of Kazakhstan, to Charmaine Dragun of Australia.
Incidentally, how popular are musical and film stars from the
Oriental Asian nations like South Korea and Japan in Australia?
It would seem to me that an Asian Pacific pantheon of stars would
exist just as there are in UK/Europe or America.
Yes, sports presenters and reality TV star's, like all
occupations, do without doubt, produce observable trends among
their rank and file. We only have to find out what they are and
who has been affected.
Mike
re:early
21st Century
----- Original Message -----
From: Trish
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: re:early 21st Century
Hello Michael
I've heard that Planet X could have a most devastating,
catastrophic, for the entire earth. Is it possible that this
planet could reverse our poles and creating such devastation?
How is that you see past 2016 and beyond????? I have studied the
bible, and to the best of my recollection, NO BODY knows the hour
not even the Son(Jesus) of when these things come to pass.
The future as you see it doesn't look to promising for my
children or their children, all about wars, food shortages,
lawlessness ... maybe I should live today, as if it were my last
and enjoy it.
Kind regards Patricia.
Trish
- -Patty!
* * * * *
Hello Trish,
There are many theories about what Planet X will do to Earth when
it passes by ... WHEN it passes by (this cannot even be agreed
upon). As to the "when" most prophecy says there will
be a major "comet" that will cause some destruction to
our planet in various ways at the same time that many nations are
plagued by a great war (ie, "World War III"). Therefore,
if various prophecies are correct, this object or comet will not
come until we are in the midst of this great war at the point
when Europe is attacked and invaded by "the East"
("Russia" or the "the Soviet Union" in some
later prophecies). The originator of this prophecy, Daniel,
however, identifies the adversary as the king of Persia (Iran)
and his ally the king(s) of Media. Georgia is an example of one
of the nations that were part of Media, and, as you can see,
portions of it now are once again part of Russia. If Russia
continues to absorb more former Soviet states into its structure,
it becomes "king" of the Medes. Ergo, an Iranian-Russian
alliance is "the East" that many prophets feared would
invade Europe in our time and is distinctly identified by Daniel
in Chapter 8 (and also mentioned in various places by Nostradamus
in his book).
So, Planet X cannot come until the war is waged and reaches
critical mass in Europe. If Planet X arrives in a time of peace
or a limited level of conflict in some place like Iraq or
Afghanistan, it would be going against prophecy. Obviously if
there is a world war that is as bad as I described, we will have
plenty other things to worry about besides Planet X anyway ...
like nuclear war.
This world war need not happen in our lifetimes. It is possible
for it to be postponed until the year 2038. So there is some hope
in that for you .. and for all of us. If that is what happens
then Planet X will not come until around the year 2044.
Yes, Planet X will, at some point, cause a "pole shift"
of 90 degrees .. there is evidence of that in Revelation after
the seventh seal has been opened and a third of the stars are
shaken to the ground so that a third of the stars are no longer
seen nor a third of the light shine by the moon and stars. If the
earth's pole is shifted by that much, it will certainly change
the way the stars and constellations will appear afterwards.
Indeed, all the things mentioned from the opening of the sixth
seal (the great planet earthquake, moon appears as blood, sun
black as sackcloth, heavens rolled up like scroll, etc) through
to the seventh seal and fourth trumpet sounded are related to
various Planet X actions on our planet.
I do not see beyond 2016 nor do I say that man will definitely
continue beyond 2016 (Nostradamus does).
Nostradamus says that
most of the world will be destroyed by ignorant rulers, weapons,
fire, and flood in the year 2243 (using the grand cycle of the
Moon as his dating device). He also says that the end of seven
thousand years of human history will arrive in 2242-43 in his
Epistle to Henry II (written in 1558), claiming also that the
seventh millennium began in 1242-43 and will end in 2242-43, for
he tells his son four years earlier that they are living in the
seventh millennium (when he wrote this in 1554, by his reckoning,
that would have been true if it began in 1242-43). His view at
the end of the seventh millennium, in 2243, follows Christian
theology surprisingly exact for he says then the kingdom of
Christ will begin and Satan will be bound and thrown into prison
for a thousand years, after which time there will be one last
uprising by people he identifies as Azostains (another word for
infidels, unfaithful). Yet again, therefore, he is describing the
final battle led by Satan after deceiving the nations of world (identified
in Revelation as "Gog and Magog").
Nostradamus differs with the modern popular Christian view of
when the date of the creation of Adam occurred. That is why
Christians will say there are only 6000 years elapsed (4004 BC
usually given as the date to begin counting from) and the
millennial reign of Christ shall begin the seventh millennium (which
is well overdue since that should have happened in 1996 or 1997
depending on whether one takes into account there was no year
zero). Nostradamus set creation as being either 4756 BC or 4757
BC. His calculations are supported by the Abbot Trithemius, which
are only ten years off, who wrote his discourse on the "Angel
Ages" in 1503. Like the prophet Enoch, both men believed
there would be seven thousand years of human history before the
messianic age would begin, which would be the eighth millennium.
Christian theology teaches 6000 years of human history as opposed
to 7000 years of human history merely because in the Book of
Genesis, God took 6 days to create the world and rested on the 7th.
However, the truth is, most Old Testament era prophets believed
there would be 7000 years from the time of creation before Man's
rule would end and the awaited messiah's would begin.
Nevertheless, in the Book of Matthew Jesus does remind us that
God shall shorten Man's years in the end times because if He does
not "no flesh would survive." The question is how much
will He shorten them by and in what sense? In Matthew is Jesus
saying the 7000 years will be reduced to 6700 to 6800 years (meaning
our era will end sometime between 1943 and 2043) or does it mean
the beast will reign only 42 months because originally his reign
was to last longer (Nostradamus says the beast reign is 25 years
without divine intervention)? As you can see either way years are
being shortened.
In any event, I present prophecies that clearly extend beyond our
current time as though the prophets, like Nostradamus, claiming a
much longer future than a handful of years remaining are correct.
We cannot say for certain they are wrong.
At the same time, I look at the time in which we are living as
possibly being at the brink of Tribulation. I must because God
has said He will shorten the years and I cannot be sure what that
means exactly. For this reason I engage in interpretation and
discussion concerning the beast and false prophet and the whore
of Babylon and other such features of Revelation from an end
times perspective (ie, that we may indeed be living in the last 7-year
period or very near it).
Personally, I believe we are approaching that part of Revelation
that corresponds with the opening of the sixth seal. How long the
time will run from there until the Second Coming I truly do not
know. It could be years, decades, or even a few centuries.
I show the nightmare version of what will come, the worst case
scenario, based on prophecy but also based on our own history
which I truly do believe does repeat itself at intervals of seven
years and also multiples of seven years (ie., 7, 14, 21, 28, 35,
42, 49, 56, 63, etc).
I believe most future events that have been prophesied can be
mitigated and I also believe that some future events can be
postponed to a later time. Human free will does play a role in
all of this. The events of Revelation may be written in stone,
but they have been carefully presented by John without a
timeframe, if you notice, until the beast and false prophet
appear. Until these two actually appear, Man has some power over
how long he can reign in this world through the power of faith
and prayer ... and a bit of common sense if he has any left.
Yes, live today and plan for tomorrow. I do. Hope springs eternal,
as they say. But for those of us who present and discuss prophecy,
it is our job to alert the public as to where we may be headed.
Thus, as Dickens reminds us in A Christmas Carol when Scrooge is
shown his headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future and queries
in great dread and trepidation: 'Are these the shadows
of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that
May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to
which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be
departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you
show me!'
This is a question that haunts
us all. But what Scrooge has reasoned out after putting the
question in this classic ghost story can be the only answer for
any of us, without the benefit of a spectre's assurance.
Take care,
Mike
STOP
RIGHT THERE MR MCCLELLAN ... HAVE YOU BEEN ENTIRELY HONEST WITH
THESE PEOPLE ABOUT
JOHN GIBSON'S INTERVIEW WITH SARAH PALIN??
----- Original
Message -----
From:
TATI
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:53 PM
You
referenced Sarah Palin's interview with John Gibson, but what
must be taken into consideration is how edited it was when aired
on ABC. In their full context, the transcript of which is
provided in the link below, her remarks would appear to differ,
sometimes significantly, from what was portrayed on television,
particularly in her hostility toward Russia.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview
* * * * *
Dear Tati,
You run a blog.
I run a very large website which is a good deal more time-consuming.
Except for another email reader (besides myself) who answers
letters (and is away on vacation right now), I am doing this all
alone.
I am viewing
events from a prophetic perspective and, as such, am highly
dependent on (allegedly) reputable news organisations and news
services for factual evidence to support prophecies by major
prophets as well as personal predictions I have made. I
teach that history repeats itself at often regular intervals of
multiples of seven years and demonstrate how often that actually
does happen.
I simply do not
have the time to pin down every news story to see if it is
journalistically sound or biased. If that became my mission, that
is all I would ever be doing.
I read the
transcript and see what you mean. Nevertheless, although Palin's
views are somewhat moderated by the material that was removed, it
did not sway my overall view that she perceives Russia as a
potential adversary at this time. She has made other
comments to this effect outside of the interview in question.
This interview is by no means the only source for such reports.
Still, I have to
wonder why these comments were singled out for editing? Why were
many of John Gibson's questions also deleted? He spent much
quality time preparing his questions, why ask them only to delete
them later? Is not his editing out of his own remarks as
important as his editing out those of Sarah Palin's?
You do realise, I
am sure, that a TV journalist must adhere to the demands placed
upon his network by sponsors. He/she has only so much time
allotted them to produce a final presentation of the interview.
Much cutting is necessary. It is impossible to conduct a
television interview and NOT delete comments. If many
questions are asked and/or answers are quite lengthy, perhaps a
third of all words exchanged will never be heard.
What is removed
is up to the judgment of the interviewer and sometimes that can
be a tough call. There is also something we can not know:
what was Sarah Palin's body language saying at the time she made
the remarks that were later deleted? If the interviewer is
any good he can tell whether at some point when speaking the
person he is engaging is being evasive or otherwise disingenuous.
If that is the case, he may decide to delete such material and
hold on to that which struck him as being truly candid.
A full transcript
that is published for reading is no more or less the truth than
an edited vocal interview unless we actually see the words being
spoken.
Nevertheless, I
shall provide your remarks and the link to your blog in my
article so that my viewers can decide the truth, such as it may
be, for themselves.
Most sincerely
yours,
Mike
-----------------------------
Speaking
of which, apparently Sarah Palin has been caught in one lie
already. So how can we really know where she stands on Russia????
-----
Original Message -----
From: TATI
.
To: Mike
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: RE:
I understand your point, and by no means was I implying any
irresponsibility on your part. Just figured I'd point out the
article (of which the blog in question I do not run, by the way),
since the ABC report didn't tell the whole story. And like you
said, people can decide for themselves. Thank you for your time,
I only recently discovered your site several weeks ago and am
thoroughly hooked.
A
woman's perspective on Palin
----- Original
Message -----
From: Shelley
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:06 AM
Subject: A woman's perspective on Palin
Hi Mike,
I hope this is finding you
well of late. As a single working Mom I would like to offer that
not all of us are smitten with Mrs Palin. As I read the news I am
crying for what I know will be lost, as surely as I knew what
would be lost when GWB hit the scene. It's a gut instinct that
makes me recoil when I look at her eyes or see her doing
the Hitler hand salute.
She is
indeed cruel - you need only read how she
attacked the physical appearance of her opponents, or shoots
animals from the air (the most cowardly way to hunt since the gun)
and her insistence that polar bears are not endangered. Further,
beauty queens place appearance above all else, so in essence our
presidential race has been reduced to a meaningless reality show.
Any woman who wants to deny abortion to a rape or incest
victim - and make the rape victim pay for the rape kit to boot -
is the definition of intolerance and cruelty.
I was
horrified when I read she put more importance on making a speech
and taking an 8 hour flight from Texas back to Alaska than her
and her babies health when her water broke. It was a
high risk pregnancy and she did not notify the airlines that she
was going into labor. If she is willing to put her own childs
health at risk to make a speech and put her own interests in
front, but deny the rest of us the same control over our lives - imagine
the depth of her disdain for anyone outside her circle.
Remember that no
man knows the mind of God and while you may be keeping an open
mind based on your calculations, my instincts are saying "Holy
shit - we are so screwed".
Peace out,
Shelley
* * * * *
Hi
Shelley,
Thanks for sending that along. It certainly opens my eyes to the
reality that is Sarah Palin.
I have not had a chance to do much research on her, but I can see
I have missed a whole lot. I had hoped that her being an
Evangelist might be a good sign, but really doubted it when I
read that she said she thought the war in Iraq was "a
mission from God." That is crazy and her telling school
children such crap is also crazy and dangerous. Unfortunately,
and sad to say, many of the so-called Christians these days are
dangerous lunatics.
Hitler hand salute to go with it too, eh? I don't know who I
dread more: the Zionists or the anti-Zionists. Both sound like
fanatics.
Well, I may quote some of this material when I have a chance as
an update to the article. I will of course say it is from an
anonymous source or sources (unless you would like your name addy
'Shelley' used). Besides, this would make a good letter for the
email forum too, which hasn't been updated in quite a while (not
for a lack of material, I will be backlogged forever) . . .
Anyway, thanks for sharing your views on Ms Palin and also for
your concern about my health.
Take care,
Mike
Other
Email Forums
Best of the Email
Forums (Part 1)
Best of the Email Forums (Part 2)