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Francis will be at Madison Square garden! between the 2
rivers/east river and the Hudson! The sanctuary in front will be
filled with long stemmed white roses! Maybe??
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mentioned the East River and the Hudson River as the two rivers
that water NYC. It is a possibility. I did not know about the
white roses. This could be bad.
thus far, the Pope's trip has been moving along smoothly. I'd be
a bit more worried about his trip to Armenia
next year around the time of the 35th
anniversary of the assassination attempt of Pope John Paul II.
regardless of next year and 2017 being more dangerous, have to
cover all bases due to the details in the Rose Prophecy by
Nostradamus and the details found in the Third Secret of Fatima
warning to a future pope.
Subject: Re: The Rose Prophecy
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This is interesting! Carly
Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewelett-Packard is running for
president. The 60 years old physically attractive and fit woman
is the only Republican woman running among 15 men. Her last name
Fiorina is Italian meaning, get this! Flowering or related to
flower. Nostradamus says "when the Rose flourishes".
This brings forward my theory that Carly Fiorina might be the
Flourishing Rose Nostradamus is talking about. Fiorina is surging
among certain social and foreign policy conservatives. Can she be
at the top by September 26 , 2015? The same date Pope Francis is
scheduled to visit the "city where two rivers collide"
Philadelphia? I'mgoing to add these comments on your site for
your viewers. Or please do it for me.
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You might be on to
something with this one! I'll check it out ... I never even knew
about this lady! The Pope page has been in dire need of further
updating ... but I wasn't all that alarmed about the Sarajevo
trip (less than 24 hours were spent there) and only moderately
concerned about the trip to Amman. Now if he says he wants to
visit Syria or Iraq, that will be something to really worry
about. Philadelphia sounds ominous to me, I don't know why
exactly .. it is more than the two rivers. Something else about
Then again, let us not
forget that The Third Secret of Fatima says the city the
"Bishop in White" will visit will be half-destroyed and
that he will have to bless the bodies of the dead lying in its
streets. World War III need not be the cause ... look at some of
the Iraqi and Syrian cities that ISIS has destroyed, partially or
completely, or, even worse, some of the cities Bashar al-Assad's
own government forces have destroyed. The cities destroyed by
civil war look apocalyptic in their destruction. If the prophet
Jeremiah is correct (or my understanding of his prophecies are
correct), in the near future cities in Jordan, northern Israel,
and parts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia will look like those
destroyed cities in Syria and Iraq. All the more reason to worry
if the Pope ever decides to set foot in those areas. The key base
7 date is still the anniversary of Pope John Paul II's attempted
assassination in May 1981 ... which is May 2016.
You certainly can post
your revelation regarding Carly Fiorina if you like on my blog at
Weebly with whatever you think the right article is it should go
with (I have lost track .. have I only done one article regarding
the pope at the Weebly blog or have done more than one?)
Meantime, it seems all of
the members of my message board (the Prophetic Messenger Service)
may have gone the way of the dodo. No one has posted in nearly a
year or over a year and the only activity is spammers I have to
delete. Maybe forums have gone the way of the dodo, have they?
Have social platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Google plus, Linked
In, etc. put message boards (forums) out of business? Maybe I
should just retire the thing. OTHERWISE, Prophetic Messenger
Service could certainly use NEW members ...! Just a thought if
you are interested .. some good posts might reactivate the
interest of the older members. They could be checking it every
day but not logging on, I wouldn't know, because the only dates
the forum records is the last date a member logged on.
Subject: Re: The Rose Prophecy
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Your site has no updates
or any new comments there. But check this out From your web page:
Nostradamus, Quatrain 2.97
Romain Pontife garde de
De la cité que deux fleuves arrouse,
Ton sang viendras aupres de là cracher,
Toi & les tiens quand fleurira la Rose.
Note the French word
FLEURIRA.....doesn't that reminds you of....Fiorina??? Just like
Hister with Hitler!
Note how people have been
talking about the "pink" dress Carly Fiorina wore
during her breakthrough debate! Pink is a color of Roses....just
saying! We will see next month when the Pope visits Philadelphia
by the Blood moon. Will Fiorina be at the top of the polls by
to be In Philadelphia Two Days Before the Pope
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In addition to the
question I asked below, I wondered what your thoughts are on
Madonna being in Philadelphia just two days before the Pope is
expected to arrive in town. Madonna's tour goes through on
September 24th and the Pope is expected to be there two days
later. Any chance she'll put a hex on the city and there will be
a recreation of the death by two rivers in her performance which
then becomes a reality? Just asking to see what your thoughts are
on this. Thanks for your help in advance. Hope you've been doing
I hope you've been doing
well. I haven't heard from you in a while and decided to check
up. I had an interesting question for you. So the psychic site I
used to use closed down almost a year ago and myself and psychic
partner Fefe have been using our own (http://www.knowitnextpsychicpredictions.wordpress.com) to share our thoughts instead.
It's obviously been read by the FBI and other officials. However
we are disturbed by the fact that a potential government patsy
has been in our midst. His name is Barry Clinton and in 2005, he
was arrested by the FBI for threatening to kill the Bush family (http://m.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/stories/2005/06/06/daily27.html?r=full).
He's been lurking on our
site lately talking about how he is Jesus and he is anticipating
a rapture on June 12th. June 12th is George HW Bush's birthday,
by the way. We also heard some of his experiences that sound like
MK ULTRA programming sessions while he was in jail. My fear is
that June 12th is some sort of trigger date where he's been
programmed to assassinate someone of high priority to further
implement martial law and the New World Order agenda in our
society. Does this have any resonance with you and do we have
legitimate concern to be worried about? I'm asking your take
because you have a vast resource of knowledge on these types of
things and I figured I should throw this by you to see if I can
gather any more information that can be helpful to stopping this
in its tracks. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
* * * * *
I just discovered that I
wrote the majority of a reply to THIS email at the end of May or
beginning of June ... and didn't quite finish it to send off to
you. Things have been awfully confused as I had to move in June
and am in serious financial trouble besides, no thanks to my
mother, who I cared for for over 5 years, going into a nursing
home in 2013 and a lack of any kind of donations since Google
knocked my web site down on the search engine, turning my 20,000
views a day to 1,000 a day or less since May 2011 with their
goddamned Panda algorithms (or was that really just a cover for
censorship of religious, conspiracy, and prophecy-related
sites?).. Anyways, I just completed the part concerning the
government patsy and the possibility someone like him may be
planning on an assassination. But first, Madonna and the Pope ...
I have to admit that the
timing for Madonna and Pope Francis is interesting.
However, I have already
seen just how closely events almost took a dire turn in 2013 with
Obama visiting South Africa at a time when Mandela seemed at
death's door. I was concerned that Mandela would die while Obama
was there and Obama would be assassinated as well, thus the
statue of the black leader toppling backwards would then have
been applied to either Mandela or Obama. But Mandela pulled
through one last time and Obama's visit was uneventful as
uneventful gets. Also, just before Pope Francis was to visit
Brazil, there were widespread riots and arson there that
miraculously came to an end a few weeks before his arrival at
Rio. He was set to visit the huge statue of Christ which is atop
a huge gnarled hill overlooking the city, the cross of crosses,
but this part of the visit was shelved. All this exactly at a
time when the next Lincoln/Franz Ferdinand/Kennedy repeat should
have happened. When Mandela did die at the end of the year,
Ukraine was ready to explode, and explode it did. Yet the other
two "pots" (for a total of "three") that were
supposed to boil over in Europe, prophesied by Seer van Rensburg,
failed to do so. The huge strike in South Africa that was to turn
into a civil war failed to happen, although a huge strike did
happen a year-and-a-half later (this year, and still going at
this time). It has not led to civil war (yet), BUT mass
xenophobic attacks on migrant workers has me concerned. America
has returned to Iraq, as the prophet also mentioned at the end of
the prophecy, and may indeed lose the war over there. Thus, I am
considering reopening van Rensburg's case as still being an
inspired prophet. But I am still waiting for the other two pots.
Anyway, Madonna is at the
end of her rope, I feel. Her popularity has fallen drastically, I
see little hope for her. The only thing she can do now that will
capture the world's attention is to die. I can't see her
as any blooming Rose; a faded, withered rose is more like it. I
have to warn about Philadelphia and the danger to Pope Francis
because of the two rivers there; but I suspect that May 2016 is
more likely to be the Pope's most dangerous time as it is 35 (5 x
7) years after the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II.
Madonna got whiplash when
she fell. She says it was either strangle or fall, but the end
result was neck injury, either way. So, by imitating doomed
dancer Isadora Duncan's final "performance" by tying a
long trailing cape around her neck, and being faced with
strangulation or whiplash, she has chosen her method of death.
This was not a magical act to ward off death, it was a real
accident ... but one that could have been avoided. And one, oddly
enough, I suspect she half invited. A broken neck, strangulation,
hanging ... by murder, accident, or suicide will come before she
turns 60, I suspect. I could be wrong, but I just don't see
Madonna as settling for being another Cher.
The next period of danger
for an ATTEMPT on the life of a US president is May 2016 ...
based on the attempt on former US president Ronald Reagan in May
1981. In all the years since then, there has yet to be any
resonance of that event happening again. Perhaps a "false
flag" wounding of President Obama would be the spark to
ignite martial law? Certainly a brainwashed government patsy,
preferably a former member of an intelligence gathering
organization like the CIA, would be the likely culprit. Have you
ever considered the possibility that this ISIS leader al-Baghdadi
is actually a former CIA agent and that ISIS is funded and ARMED
by the US government? Sounds preposterous, I know, but this
conspiracy has been making the rounds of late ... might explain
the huge shipment of new guillotines "discovered" in
the US about seven or eight years ago if America becomes a huge
Probably not what you
expected to read, but ... it all is what it is.
when the Rose blooms Century 2 Quatrain 97
ROBERT B firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: For when the Rose blooms Century 2 Quatrain 97
Date: Monday, April 6, 2015 7:08 AM
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Fellowship, 1909/11. Teachings present the mysteries, in the form
of esoteric knowledge, of which Christ spoke in Matthew 13:11 and
Luke 8:10. The Fellowship seeks to prepare the individual through
harmonious development of mind and heart in a spirit of unselfish
service to mankind and an all-embracing altruism. According to it
the Rosicrucian Order was founded in 1313  and is composed of
twelve exalted Beings gathered around a thirteenth, Christian
Rosenkreuz. These great Adepts have already advanced far beyond
the cycle of rebirth; their mission is to prepare the whole wide
world for a new phase in religionwhich includes awareness
of the inner worlds and the subtle bodies, and to provide safe
guidance in the gradual awakening of man's latent spiritual
faculties during the next six centuries toward the coming Age of
It stands for the
Rosicrucians and when the Rose blooms is the beginning of a
visit to Montreal, in 2017
Subject: Pope's visit
to Montreal, in 2017
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:59 PM
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"For a pope these
days to be in any city in the "land between two rivers"
(Iraq) is death...... metropolis of Montreal in Quebec, Canada
lies on the junction of two rivers:"
I just thought that maybe
the "land between two rivers" could be Montreal.
Although, the Pope's visit is not confirmed yet.
Hopefully, I'm wrong..
Subject: The Rose
Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 8:18 PM
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Is interesting that it is
being confirmed that Pope Francis will visit Philadelphia on
September of 2015. The same month and day of the last "blood
moon"! By this time also a WOMAN (Rose) will rise in
politics (Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Nikki Haley...)
Everything is shaping up
and going according to these prophecies towards the big year of
2017 (anniversary of Fatima, anniversary of the Reformation) What
is your take?
It could also be possible
a disastrous landing of the papal plane in Philadelphia. The
plane carrying the pope and his entourage killed in a plane crash
in the "city where two rivers arouse".
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Sorry for the big delay!
Thanks for reminding me of
the Fatima anniversary. If that is to have any importance, from a
base 7 perspective, it would be on the 98th anniversary (7 x 14
years) ... which would be 2015. May 13, 2015 to October 13,
2015 to be exact! If the Third Secret of Fatima about a Pope
("Bishop dressed in White") and the lay people and
cardinals accompanying him being killed by soldiers is to hold
any weight now or in the near future, I would be extremely
concerned about any papal visit Pope Francis will make
between May and October 2015. And yes, especially the
fourth blood moon on September 28, 2015. The trip to
Philadelphia at this time is scheduled for September 22-27
... missing the blood moon by one day: but that may not matter!
If the fourth blood moon, as I have theorized in a recent
article, is really the fourth seal opening, then the pale rider
and his companion, Death and Hell, will be unleashed on the earth
either on that day or within a month before or within three or
four months after.
The Pope has another base
7 hurdle in or around May 2016 ... the 35th (5 x 7)
anniversary of the assassination attempt of Pope John Paul II in
I believe we now know the
new Rose, and it is not a potential US president. It is
one who is like Princess Diana, one who is doing her work and is
well-loved. I fear for her life. It is Angelina Jolie.
She may rise to a sudden prominence even greater than she now
knows, between now and August 2017 (the blooming of
"the Rose"). She will be in an absolute danger of
losing her life in August or September 2018.
But if you are right about
the Rose being a female president, I doubt it will be Hillary,
But quite possibly one of the others you mentioned, especially
one who is a young candidate (possibly under 42 years of age).
I do not think the Pope is
in danger of a plane crash, however, unless it is a crash he will
survive. The prophecy of Fatima, at least, specifically says it
will be soldiers (or men dressed in paramilitary garb) who kill
him. This could be someone from ISIS.
Thanks for writing, and
sorry about the delay.
Prophecy and the pope
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Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 1:46 PM
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What about his visit of
Istanbul and the Hagia Sophia? The story goes that
Istanbul/Constantinople, like Rome, was built on seven hills. The
Hagia Sophia, a cross-in-square church in the first place, lies
on the first hill. The Muslims took the crossed dome away and
used it to build the stairs leading to Hagia Sofia ("rugged
cross" ?). There is a Mars Pluto conjunction in November.
I like this pope very much
and hope they take good care of him.
with kind regards, Luthien
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I did not know about the
Hagia Sophia, never thought of looking directly at Turkey as a
place of danger rather than Iraq. I think this interpretation of
the rugged cross may be a bit of a stretch though... although it
being on a hilltop is perhaps a bit less than reassuring.
Turkey is also important
because it was a Turk who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul
II. I suppose that could be *coincidence* if anything does
happen. However, the base 7 anniversary of the May 1981 attack
does not come up until May 2016.
And perhaps it will be
sometime near to May 2016 that Pope Francis will actually face
peril in a foreign land. That would be the only other dating I
would give aside from the death of Pope John Paul I in September
1978. That recurred in September 2013 and could still have some
influence until the end of this year.
I think Fatima is more
likely to be the influence now in November, rather than Quatrain
2.97 as it is too late for roses to bloom.
I decided to call the page
"Rose Prophecy" because I think there is a strong
possibility that Quatrain 2.97 and Fatima may be related. But
they need not be related at all. They could easily be about the
deaths of two different popes who are assassinated.
In any event, barring a
Fatima scenario, I suspect the Pope will likely survive his
November trip to Turkey, unless he does decide to impulsively
visit northern Iraq or Syria.
Thanks for writing.
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Date:Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:01 PM
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Everybody knows that
something happened during the conclave of 2013. Liberal forces
within the college of cardinals did all they could to prevent
cardinal Turkson to become Pope. Instead they selected a liberal
pope who will die soon(natural causes or assassinated) and then
the right Pope will be elected. The famous Peter the Roman is non
other than Cardinal Peter Turkson who will be rightfully elected
during the same time a "woman" will arise and be
nominated and elected president of the United States (Nikki
Haley, Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton).
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Is there a prophecy about
a pope being elected when a woman becomes leader of the United
States? I never saw that one and find it most interesting. I have
been hearing more about this Nikki Haley .. haven't researched
her yet. Hillary seems to be too old.
as possible country with a cross-mountain?
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given the large number of
deaths already in the ukraine situation, it seems possible that
the pope might want to go there as it worsens in the future.
also, did you see the 19 august interview in which the pope,
returning from s korea said wwiii had already begun but is being
carried out in pie (a pezzi) rather than one large
event? i did not see the press highlight that part as a story, in
the english press.
I'm sorry to bother, but I
was wondering about a post you made last year stating that 2013
would be a triple Pope year. I had my feelings about that too,
but it did not happen.
What wolud you feel about
it now? You are now wondering that the Papal visit to PA next
year could trigger the eventes you forsee, but I was wondering
whether you considered that Book Of Revelations chapter in which
two leaders (popes?) were murdered and the people would dance
around their bodies chanting...
For years I thought it
referred about a papal visit to Jesusalem, and the Pope being
murdered with some local leader appointed to accompany him, but
couldn´t it also be that Pope Benedict and Francis would be
murdered in Rome (The "big city" at the time the Book
of revelations was written)?
What would you consider
See you, thanks!
* * * * *
At present I am updating
my page on the papal prophecies, in particular Nostradamus'
Quatrain 2.97 and the revealed text of the Third Secret of
Fatima, as it currently may apply to Pope Francis. Of great
concern is the Nostradamus prophecy since it foresees death for
the Pope as he approaches a city in a place where two rivers
flow. The "two rivers" and "between two
rivers" theme appears in a number of other quatrains, and
seem to point to Mesopotamia, which is Iraq and Syria, but
Originally my page was to
warn Pope John Paul II against visiting Iraq since he postponed
his 1998 trip and was considering to follow through with it in
1999. There were a few other times he considered it, and once did
Benedict XVI consider it too and a warning went out to him. They
never did, and if they had it would have been either during the
no-fly zone war between December 1998 and March 2003 or else
after the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003 during the occupation
stage and insurgency conflicts, and the increasing terrorist
attacks by what was Al Qaeda in Iraq (now the Islamic State).
Pope Francis had also
given a possible green light to the idea of visiting Iraq a few
days after he was elected pope in March 2013, but turned down the
idea in lieu of visiting the Holy Land instead.
Unfortunately, now things
are much different. ISIS, now the Islamic State, has taken over
parts of Syria and Iraq that is the size of Belgium and created a
caliphate. They now possess 1/3 of Iraq. They have conducted mass
genocide against Christians and other religious minorities
including other Muslims who do not want Sharia law and also
Zoroastrians. They have beheaded them by the hundreds and shown
their heads on fence posts; they have abducted the women and
girls and forced them into marriage or else raped and murdered
them; and they slaughtered many children.
Pope Francis has condemned
this and declared that military action against the caliphate is
"licit." But most disturbingly, after his visit to
South Korea, he made public the fact that he is SERIOUSLY
considering travelling to Iraq to comfort the refugees and
persecuted Christians. He is a man who recognizes his own
mortality and is not afraid to risk his life.
This, in my opinion, is
the most dangerous action any pope can take ... to go to Iraq.
Nostradamus is clear that the "Pontiff of Rome" and all
his clergy will bleed from their mouths if they go there. The
Third Secret of Fatima warns the "Bishop dressed in
White" (the Pope) that he and his clergy people will be
killed by "soldiers" after visiting a "big
city" that is "half-destroyed" and praying over
the dead bodies littering its streets.
The situation now is
incredibly dangerous for the Pope and his people ...anyone who accompanies
him on the trip, if he follows through with it, will suffer the
same fate.Any Christian in Iraq who is near him when he
is killed will also be killed.
I can no longer worry
about Philadelphia or New York City next year (he has mentioned
three US cities he may visit in 2015, forgot what the third one
is, but believe it is Washington D.C.).
However, where in Iraq he
goes to and when can determine whether he survives the trip or is
killed by ISIS soldiers. IT is not for certain.
Then I would consider your
theory as being plausible. I doubt it would be a local leader,
but would indeed be the "two popes": Benedict and
Francis as "the two witnesses" of Revelation 11. They
are also called "the two olive trees" (a likely
reference to Rome and the Vatican). It is even possible that by
that time Francis might be retired too like Benedict. He recently
stated that he will likely retire after another three years. Then
there will be two retired popes and a new pope.
Yes, a very good
interpretation that! Yes, the "big city" (of the Third
Secret of Fatima and Revelation) could indeed be Jerusalem. And
1/10 of the city will be destroyed by earthquake after the bodies
of the two popes lie in the street for 3 1/2 days, and seven
thousand Israeli citizens will die in the quake. If so, Francis
will not go to Iraq or, if he does, will survive a trip there,
and the pope who will be murdered between two rivers will be his
I would hasten to add
though that my "triple pope" prediction was based on
events in 1978 which, using my base 7 system, returned again in
2013. It did not take into consideration retirement as
that has not happened before. But it still counts in my book, and
then came Pope #2, Pope Francis. I must point out that sometimes
a prediction using base 7 is fulfilled the year following. That
means that Pope #3 may yet appear in 2014.
Therefore, Pope Francis
remains in danger of losing his life this year, and going to Iraq
is definitely a bad idea!
Danger also lurks in May
2016 as that will be a base 7 anniversary for the attempt on
Pope John Paul II's life in May 1981.
However, you made me
wonder about something else: You said that maybe the predictions
about the assassination of the Pope needn´t to be different
points of view of the same attempt, but rather different
assassinations of more than one pope... well, we´ve got more
than one pope!
I always thought the Book
Of Revelations to be divided into four different parts: The
message to the seven churches and three other parts wich contains
predictions that were interrupted by a huge earthquake. I use to
believe these were predictions concerning Europe, The Americas
and Asia, and the three earthquakes are in fact one and the same.
Therefore, parts two, three and four would occur simultaneously,
and the big earthquake, perhaps felt around the globe, would
bring the narrative to an unique closure also witnessed around
the globe, if not in person at least via TV or internet.
Having said that, we
always use to aknowledge a papal assassination would happen one
pope at the time, because usually there is one pope at the time.
I also heard about Pope Francis planning to retire, but the way
the news broke here (I´m in Brazil by the way), he is quoted to
have said that he believes to have only two ore three more years
to live, so he would retire earlier than that. The very next day
his nephew almost died in a very suspicious car crash that killed
his wife and baby boy, back in Argentina. So I believe these
considerations of retirement to be linked to the investigations
of the Roman Curiae and Vatican Bank the Pope is performing. I
also believe his nephew´s accident is a way to persuade the Pope
to haste his retirement. My wife works in politics and believes
that when someone can´t blackmail you for something, they
blackmail you with the people you love. You said yourself Pope
Francis doesn´t fear for his life. What about his loved ones?
So, we might as well have
two retired Popes and a third in office, wich would bring us to
the situation I use to joke about of having "more popes than
nuns in the Vatican". Popes Francis and Benedict live in a
convent and I joke about the Vatican removing the nuns to fit
"all the retired Popes". In the old days, the Popes
would accept death for the glory of God, but nowadays they accept
retirement to save their own lives. The sign of times, or what
differs them from Pope John Paul The Great, for instance.
Dark days in the Vatican
are not news. I was once mugged inside the Vatican walls, so I
know it´s not exactly a holy place. I would be not surprised if
the many possibilities of assassination described by Nostradamus,
Malachia, Ezechiael, and many others would be, in fact, an
operation to kill "all of the popes", at the same time,
just like the earthquake I was telling you about. It would be a
great day for terrorism if they killed "two ore three
popes", wherever they are, at the same time - just like they
did with the world trade center, the Pentagon and tried to do
with possibly the White House.
And let´s not forget the
possibility of a schism in the church, with the possible rise of
a french anti-pope, which would bring us to the incredible amount
of four living pontiffs. Certainly a day to remember in the
terrorist point of view.
I´m sorry to bother you
for so long, thanks for your patience, and write anytime. By the
way, some cults in Brazil say that the final 3 and 1/2 years the
Revelations talk about would start in mid september-october 2014.
They are not exactly the most reliable source, but you never
know. So you´re on the right track, and I will keep following
your thoughts about it!
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John Paul 2 visited Philadelphia in 1979. Pope Francis will not
be the first pope who visit this "two rivers" city. But
we must be watchful for this prophecy. "Rose" could
very be representing a WOMAN rising in power in America by 2015.
* * * * *
I didn't know
Then again, the
overall world situation is far more violent now than it was in
1979, especially in the United States (there have been something
like five mass shootings in the US and Canada in the last month
alone, and in two cases the targeted random victims were police
officers). Neither 9/11 or the Boston Marathon terror attacks had
happened yet either in 1979.
In other words,
the times are more right for this kind of event occurring, in the
US or anywhere else in the world, than in the past ... and it
gets worse every year.
I agree that the
Rose is a woman, but now that Iraqi Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr
is slowly being yanked into mustering a defense by Shi'a in Iraq
against ISIS and Al Baghdadi, there is a related quatrain
concerning warfare in the "city of Sadr" (Sadr City is
a suburb of Baghdad) and "a return to the honors of
Diana." This could still make the woman Diana, England's
Rose. Because of this, I must raise the issue of the Pope
possibly visiting Iraq since he is a risk-taker. He agreed to
such a trip in March 2013, but set no definite future date, only
"sometime in the near future" (and the near future
could easily be a couple years, 2015 or 2016, or even a surprise
The Rose Prophecy
page still is not entirely updated.
I will of course
be keeping an open mind about the rose being a woman rising to
some kind of power, political or religious or otherwise, in the
US next year.
Shaddai Philippines Scam
Francis O. email@example.com
Subject: El Shaddai Philippines Scam
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:06 PM
I am a devoted
Catholic since birth and still a devoted Catholic today.
However, my faith
is quickly faltering as I observe some bogus practices employed
by El Shaddai Leader in the Philippines.
El Shaddai Leader
in the Philippines, Mike Velarde has been involved in so many
anomalies involving financial fraud and conniving with Philippine
Government to obtain financial advantages.
Subject: Pope Francis and Prophecies
Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:09 AM
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It sounds like
nostradamous or fatima are talking about Rio de Janeiro Brasil.
It also has a big cross on top and there is a big muslim
community in the area of falls do iguasu which is also located
Subject: antichrist, false prophet
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Mike....I hope you are
I have been following this
trip of Obama's to Israel for March 20th and also the Pope
resigning and a new Pope being elected. A lot of folks seem to
think that Obama is the antichrist. I do not believe that Obama
is the antichrist but instead is MABUS whose death ignites WW3. I
think the true antichrist (Prince William) is pulling the strings
behind the scenes and using Obama as a front man and sacrificial
lamb to bring about the end times. The whole thing with Obama's
car being the beast, his call sign the renegade and being he is
riding on a donkey(democrat) into Israel soon is part of the
deception of the true antichrist. Its too obvious to me at least
that Obama is a front.
The next Pope (the false
prophet) and a resurrected John Paul 2 possibly will help the
true antichrist (William) thru further deception and a 7 year
peace plan to bring about the Apocalypse. I've been reading all
this for months and months going back and forth. I truly believe
that Israel may think Obama is the antichrist and have him
assassinated the week of the 20th this month igniting WW3.
The war will rein IMO for
a short time only to have the resurrected Pope (False Prophet)
and Prince William (Antichrist) present a 7 year peace plan to
stop the bloodshed. The new temple will be built and The Pope
will have a seat there with the antichrist and they will control
their flock there.
I think the Pope was
forced to quit because the time for this prophecy is at hand. The
Vatican imo has been involved in this whole planning from the
beginning. Any info would be appreciated. I hold i am wrong ....
Take Care Chris
* * * * *
Have you been reading my homepage and 2013 (Part One)? You would
know, if you did, that 49 years (7 x 7), two months, and two
weeks passed between the assassinations of US President Abraham
Lincoln (April 14, 1865) and Austro-Hungarian Archduke Franz
Ferdinand (June 28, 1914). Another 49 years (7 x 7), four months,
three weeks, and one day transpired between the assassination of
Archduke Ferdinand (June 28, 1914) and US President John F.
Kennedy (November 22, 1963). Another 49 years, six months, four
weeks and two days after Kennedy's November 22, 1963
assassination, the dreaded date will be June 21, 2013:
an important sacrificial date in occult circles. However, if the
process is a doubling of months, then it would instead be 49
years, eight months, four weeks and two days after November 22,
1963 ... or August 21, 2013.
In this day and age that has seen the world become a New World
Order, the person assassinated could be either a European or an
American or ... even someone from the Middle East.
President Barack Obama is definitely at risk, and there were
assassination plots thwarted not far from Kennedy's death
anniversary (November 2012). Now he must be cautious again during
the cited June or August 2013 dates mentioned above.
Forgive me for quoting from own website, but I really can't see
any point in re-inventing the wheel.
Yes, I think if we are living in apocalyptic times, we will see
the assassination of Mabus this year. June 21, 2013
sounds like a good day for it. Of course, for all those
German/Austrian prophecies that warn about the guns of August
going off and starting WW3, August 21 sounds pretty
Obama is certainly a good candidate for Mabus, I agree. And Comet
ISON will be a perfect followup to the Hell his death shall
I also agree that Mabus is NOT the beast of Revelation 13. Note I
say "beast" and not "antichrist." It was
actually prophets like St Hildegard, Melanie Calvat, and
Nostradamus who popularised the term "antichrist", and
not the Bible. Some prophets simply call him "the inhuman
monster" and other appellations.
The OT prophet Daniel made it clear to me in his Chapter 11
prophecy that there will be many figures to come whom we might
call "antichrist." The king of Persia is one. The king
of the south (of which there are several) and the king of the
north (of which there are also several mentioned) are both
antichrists, for example. At one point, a southern antichrist is
at war with the northern one. Nostradamus tells us these two
thoroughly evil men will be engaged in a contest to see which one
of them can spill the most blood and redden the sea.
Yet neither will survive. Even a third northern king, "the
raiser of taxes," yet another antichrist, will not survive.
But in his estate will come a prince knowing dark
sentences who will seek the realm. Seven kings will bow down
to him; three will not. In Daniel 8 he is called
"the little horn." And he will destroy the
three kings who will not pledge their allegiance to him and take
This is a warlike man, a military man. He may
also be of royal blood. And he is also political.
He craves the power of a monarch, a universal
He has no interest
in occupying a tiny room in the Vatican and playing the role of a
great religious leader. He wants the power that comes with
running a nation and an empire.
You atre closer to the truth of who the beast is when you say
Prince William than when you say, in your more recent letter,
that it is Benedict pontiff emeritus.
He will not be the pope.
Can a pope be a false prophet? That is possible.
But do not discount other religions, especially new age ones that
suddenly become popular and go global like the Moonies did.
According to Nostradamus the truly final pope of all time will be
celebrated almost as a demigod, but people will soon
tire of him and he will then be largely ignored and leave the
palaces of the Vatican and the Bibles to be burned, going off
alone to some desolate retreat, forlorn and sad. Then
Antichrist shall be the infernal prince.
Prince William as the beast? Since he married Kate Middleton this
is beginning to look less and less likely. Surely the
wife of the beast would have been acknowledged in the Book of
Revelation. Now she is pregnant. When the child is born, will it
be the son of the beast or the daughter of the beast?
Daniel says the beast will have nothing to do with women,
will not care for their attentions. He will be
so self-loving he will exalt himself above all human
Can such a person marry and have children???
Personally, I do not believe the beast has revealed himself yet
or been revealed by events or other people. But, if he is to
become known, I think it will be next year, in 2014.
Assuming, of course, that we are truly living in the final days
of Tribulation ... if we are in the Book of Revelation at all, I
don't think we have yet moved beyond the four horsemen of the
Apocalypse. We may soon see the third seal opened, and the famine
and hunger and disease that will attend its opening .. then will
come the pale horse and Death shall be its rider, and Hell shall
follow with him ...
Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112
Subject: Emeritus Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112
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Emeritus Pope is
Peter The Roman and Pope 112
beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the
seven, and goes into perdition. And the ten horns which you saw
are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive
power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and
shall give their power and strength to the beast."
The False Prophet
is the new "Pope" and the old and only Pope Benedict is
the Antichrist. Benedict was Malachy's Pope 111. Well something
that has never happened and is against the rules is Benedict
changed his name to Emeritus Pope. Changing titles makes him a
new Pope IMO. Emeritus Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112. The
"New" false Pope is Bergoglio, Who Will Be Pope
Francis. Cant have two reining Popes at the same time....Thats
why the "NEW" Pope asked his flock to pray for him. He
knows he will be serving the Antichrist. The lightening strike at
the Vatican IMO possessed Benedict making him the Antichrist. He
is the 7th King and the 8th King IMO. The New Pope will serve
him. He asked people to pray for him. He will pray with Emeritus
Pope AKA Peter The Roman today and swear oath to him...The 10
Kings don't have their power yet. I expect leaders of 10 nations
soon to come to the Vatican for 1 hour and pledge allegiance to
the Church and the antichrist. He will give them their power.
* * * * *
No, Benedict is not the beast. The pontiff emeritus, or
the pope for that matter, are not political warrior types.
You were closer with the Prince William idea, although I think
events are making him less and less likely a candidate as well,
irregardless of the "bloodline."
Yes, the Pope or pontiff emeritus could be the false prophet (or
else an archetype for one).
So could the head of any global religion. The Moonies were always
a possibility ... until Moon died. There are new age religions
gaining in popularity.
I don't think the false prophet is yet revealed. Nor the beast.
Love the site, very intriguing! Just a brief observation, could
Benedict XVI be the pope that "flees" the Vatican?
Since he is quiting and turning his back on it? Just a thought.
* * * * *
That's a good question!
The reason it is is because Comet PanSTARRS is supposed to become
very bright in the northern hemisphere beginning March 1. The
Pope officially resigns on February 28, but there will be no pope
afterwards until one is elected. That election process won't
begin until at least March 9 or 10, maybe not till March 15 (when
last I checked, news reports were saying the the conclave may
begin sooner than March 15, like March 9 or 10, but nothing for
It is entirely possible a new pope will not actually be elected
and installed into office until Easter, March 31. That means,
depending on your point of view, that March will largely be a
month without a pope, or a month that will still have Pope
Benedict's "brand" on it, even though he will have
resigned. And maybe the resignation date itself may even be moved
to sometime in March, one never knows.
Comet PanSTARRS is supposed to reach its brightest on March 10.
Astronomers are currently warning that PanSTARRS may wimp out at
magnitude 3, still bright enough to be seen away from the glare
of city lights, but hardly a major comet. How a comet looks at
magnitude 3 is hard to predict ... the size of the comet and
distance also figure. Some magnitude 3 comets cannot be seen
except in real country dark. Others can be seen quite easily from
The point is: what if PanSTARRS becomes a lot brighter than
expected? Astronomers are also warning it could go into outburst
or become more radiant after passing the sun, and become a major
comet as originally believed.
If PanSTARRS is the comet ("great star") that burns for
seven days and nights as described by Nostradamus, it is possible
that the retired Pope Benedict will leave Italy rather than move
to the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo in Lazio. But
conditions of global war would likely have to occur at this time
... and I doubt there is enough time for all that to happen.
The comet in question is much more likely to be Comet ISON,
which astronomers are predicting will be the brightest comet in
all of history. It begins to be seen in the northern hemisphere
in the second half of November 2013, and will remain an easy to
see naked eye object throughout December and January 2014, before
fading from view in February 2014. Thus, this comet is more
likely to be applied to the Pope in office at that time ...
either the next pope elected or else his successor.
I believe there will be three popes this year, the soon-to-retire
Benedict XVI being the first of the three, which means the next
pope will have a short reign and will be murdered or
assassinated. I believe this second pope of 2013 will be the
Archbishop of Milan, Angelo Scola.
Then, and I have projected this for October of this year or
earlier, his successor, the third pope of 2013, will be elected.
That pope may be the one who leaves the Vatican when Comet ISON
is at its brightest. I truly believe that, if events currently
underway remain unchecked, by that time World War III will be
upon us and forces from space and spiritual beings from other
dimensions will unleash additional horror on our world. Sometime
between November 2013 and February 2014, the passage of Comet
ISON, may come the "three days of darkness" of
Hopefully this scenario will not happen. But the opportunity for
such a scenario presents itself. But like most opportune events,
it can be prevented. But I do think the next pope elected will be
murdered and a third pope elected in the fall.
Malachy/Mindy McCready/Lady Gaga
Subject: St. Malachy/Mindy McCready/Lady Gaga
Date: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:37 PM
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How are you doing?
Recently sent you an email (McCartney/Sandy Hook) with several
additional music links. Should come up with some new tracks soon.
His predictions start with the 167th Pope, Celestine II. Pope
Benedict XVI, the 267th Pope, was the 111th Pope of his prophecy.
All his mottos regarding each one of those Popes were accurate.
According to his prophecy, the next Pope could be Petrus Romanus
(Peter the Roman) and lead to the final dismantlement and
destruction of the Roman Catholic Church. What do you think?
Country singer Mindy McCready died due to an apparent suicide.
She had reportedly attempted suicide on two occasions before and
her boyfriend had committed suicide just last month...
Could she be the blonde singer you said could die in 2013? Singer
Jenni Rivera did die last December 9th.
Went to Lady Gaga's 'Born This Way Ball'! Got floor tickets. It
was awesome! Very long and original concert... A great mixture of
pop, dance, acoustic and rock.
I'm glad I got to see the 'Born This Way Ball' live, especially
since all remaining shows have been cancelled! Gaga explained
she'd been dealing with severe joint inflammation for weeks but
hid it from her team. It was first announced 3 shows would be
postponed but then revealed she needed hip surgery and the
remainder of the tour would be cancelled...
Also, not one but 2 different psychics, astrologer Rodrigo
Rodriguez Ardila and psychic Michael Hayek, forsaw death for Lady
Gaga in 2013.
After 86 public acts of contrition in 2012 (2 of the 88 concerts
were shortened), I think Madonna's more than safe. :)
* * * * *
If you have read my pope prophecy page and recent update on the
Second Home page, you would know I do not agree that Malachy's
mottos have been attributed to the proper popes. This is because
9 of them were applied to ANTIPOPES, not actual popes, and
Malachy intended these mottos to be applied to legitimate popes.
Therefore, we have to the roll the list back nine popes. Thus,
John Paul II was not Labour of the Sun, but Cross of Crosses, and
Benedict XVI was not Glory of the Olive, but Light in the Sky.
Two major comets were seen in 2007, McNaught and Holmes, Comet
Pan-STARRS just became visible to the naked eye on the day the
pope announced his resignation, later that night another light
from heaven, a bolt of lightning, struck the dome of St. Peter's
basilica. Four days later a light brighter than the sun appeared
over Russia in the form of a large meteorite explosion and
inpact. Benedict is still the Pope until he resigns February 28
(at that time Pan-STARRS will start becoming very bright,
becoming its brightest in mid-March, while the enclave is busy
electing the next pope).
The next pope will therefore be Ingis Ardens (Burning Fire) ...
not good as we seem to be headed for World War III.
Back in 2008 I warned that Mindy McCready would attempt suicide
in 2010. She did, she overdosed, but survived. My prediction for
that year was fulfilled. At that time I said if she tried it
again she would die.
Then I predicted a country diva would die violently in April
2012. Ten months later than I projected, this month, Mindy
McCready died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
PREDICTION FULFILLED on all counts. It's too bad, but I guess it
was only a matter if time.
Another blonde, an actress this time, will likely commit suicide
this autumn. It is possible, rather than an actress, it will be a
singer. That could be Lady Gaga.
There is also the question of the next Dana Plato ... someone who
started her career as a child (like Lindsay Lohan, for example).
Events are happening so fast I can hardly keep up pointing out
the ones I predicted. And I have more predictions to post for
this year, 2014, 2015 and 2016.
Ivan M. firstname.lastname@example.org
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Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:11 PM
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There just happens to already be a Cardinal of high rank with
Peter as his middle name. This Cardinal is Cardinal Tarcisio
Pietro Evasio Bertone. Pietro is the Italian name for Peter. This
cardinal is now serving as the Vatican's Secretary of State. He
is 78 years old and he is Italian/Roman. He has been a Cardinal
for the past 10 years.
I believe that the issue of whether or not the next pope is
really 'Petrus Romanus' may in itself set off a great schism in
the Church. Clearly one faction believes Malachy's list of popes
has been fulfilled to the letter but for the last pope. But there
are others who hold that there will be an indeterminate number of
popes in between 'Gloria Olivae' and 'Petrus Romanus.'
And I am sure there are those who are realistic enough to realise
that Malachy would never have included the 9 antipopes in his
list to whom the Vatican wrongly applied 9 mottos intended for 9
popes. This is the reason I believe the list must be rolled
back by 9 mottos so that Pope John Paul II becomes 'Crux de
Cruce' ('Cross of Crosses') rather than 'De Laboris Solis,' and
Benedict XVI becomes, not 'Gloria Olivae,' but 'Lumen in Caelo'
('Light in the Sky' or 'Light in the Heavens').
One can easily see that view with a comet that is to become very
bright throughout the month of March entering the edge of naked
eye visibility on the morning of February 11, the day Benedict
announced his intention to resign. Later that night, lightning
struck the dome of St Peter's basilica. Four days later, the
"light" (bright as the sun at one point) of a large
meteorite exploded above a Russian city, then impacted as another
"light", an asteroid, passed the earth.
Remember, Benedict is still the pope, and will be through
February 28. That means all this phenomena with bright light from
the heavens is applied to him, not his successor. As to what
happens during the nearly one month there is no pope at all,
possibly all the way to Easter, March 31, while an enclave is
selected to vote for a new pope, I don't know. Should Comet
Pan-STARRS in March be applied still to the resigned Benedict? I
would say "yes" since there is no other personage to
which it can be applied until the name of the elected one is made
I believe Angelo Scola, the Archbishop of Milan and former
Patriarch of Venice, will be the Italian elected. Will they say
he is 'Petrus Romanus?' Some will suggest this, yes. The reaction
to this, in turn, will be the sophistry aimed at him by
non-Catholics that he is the false prophet.
You and I know of course that the real false prophet is a certain
Syrian Jewish rabbi.
And indeed, in reality, the next pope will actually be 'Ignis
Ardens' ('Burning Fire'). I do not think he will live long and
yet another pope will be elected before this year ends (making
2013 a Triple Pope year like 1978). At which point 'Religio
depopulata' ('Religion depopulated') is elected.
These are absolutely horrible mottos for any pope at a time like
this. 'Ignis Ardens' suggests a world war and possibly a limited
or full-scale nuclear war. It also could refer to fire from an
asteroid impact or even Planet X. 'Religio depopulata' escalates
the situation to a great depopulation/destruction/devastation of
Christians, even worse, mass death worldwide of people of all
religions (from war, disease, and famine). 25 months of warfare
later, comes the great French pontiff of which there are so many
many prophecies, the one whose motto must therefore be 'Fides
intrepida' ('Intrepid faith'). Some prophecies state the French
pope will restore the Church to what it was in the First Century
AD, after the crucifixion of Jesus. After his death, according to
some prophecies that take the long view, will reign
simultaneously three 'angelic popes' or 'angelic pastors.' Thus
it is interesting to find the next pope in line after 'Fides
intrepida' is 'Pastor Angelicus' (perhaps he will be the more
powerful or popular of the three). I won't continue with the
list, that would require more time than I have ...
But you can see how fitting 'Lumen in Caelo' is now to the still
Pope Benedict XVI, given recent "light in the sky"
phenomena of recent days and that to come at the end of this
month and in March (comet, lightning, asteroid, meteorite) and
how disturbingly apocalyptic 'Ignis Ardens' and 'Religio
depopulata' sound in our time.
I know if you look at the history of how these mottos were
applied it might seem otherwise, but then I would find the
dazzling "light in the sky" displays of the last five
days far more appropriate to Pope Benedict XVI as 'Lumen in
Caelo' rather than the tired tale that it was applied to Pope Leo
XIII because his coat-of-arms featured a shooting star. It is
said Pope Pius was 'Ignis Ardens' because of the Tunguska Event,
which no one saw, but the entire world has now seen the
Chelyabinsk Event in all its glory and dread.
Anyway, this will get interesting, I think. I suspect a major
schism is coming and even the election of not only a legitimate
pope, but an antipope. This Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Evasio
Bertone may well be the antipope one faction of the Church will
attempt to push onto the world as 'Petrus Romanus.' Meantime,
another faction will elect the true pope, possibly this Angelo
Scola I have mentioned.
A Cardinal from
central Italy? Let me think, Cardinal Ennio Antonelli (President
of the Pontifical Council for the Families), Cardinal Giuseppe
Betori (Archbishop of Florence) and Cardinal Agostino Vallini
(Vicar for Rome) come form central Italian Apennines. But I hope
next Pope will be an African.
calls for Angelicans to come back
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I guess not in time for the wikileaks to paint him the anti-pope
* * * * *
Thanks for the info ... seems to bolster my own prediction
further about about an Anglican-Catholic merger (ultimately, I
suspect the plan is to pull back all the Protestant faiths and
create one Church).
"Ancient prophecies" ... those that deal with a future
German pope ... seem to be conflicted as to whether he is an
antipope or a real pope, even the so-called "great
Pontiff" (which Nostradamus suggests is French, not just
because he mentions him as coming from "ancient
France," which can be applied to other countries like
Germany and Belgium, but because he also calls him the
"cardinal of France" prior to his election).
In any event, may be best not to bite one's nails. I still think
Malachy's list is off by 10 popes because that would mean
including 10 antipopes and the extremely short reign of John Paul
I in the list, which I doubt he would have done. Thus, we are not
anywhere near Glory of the Olive, but 10 or 11 mottos before.
and Muslim ambassadors meeting
----- Original Message
From: mark cane
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: Pope and Muslim ambassadors meeting
I continue to read your site with great interest. Just two
decades back the threat from the Soviet Union seemed unending.
Here we are in a new era, with our attention on Islamic
fanaticism. Our prophet, Nostradamus foresaw the end of Soviet
communism. He also revealed the dangers of Islam, though
The recent Islamic rage
over the Pope's speech has prompted an offer to meet with Islamic
ambassadors in the Pope's summer residence in Castel Gandolfo on
An association with key
words and phrases in our prophet's quatrains may reveal a
possible connection with the impending meeting.
Quarrels and new schisms by the red hats,
When one will have been elected, the Sabine:
They will produce great sophisms against him,
And Rome will be injured by those of Alba.
Pope Benedict is recently elected. The Islamics are producing
great arguments, quarrels and schisms over the Pope's remarks.
The Pope's summer residence is in Castel Gandolfo. The modern
city is built on the ancient site of ALBA Longo, Capital of the
The prophecies as so vague as to make it difficult to interpret
fulfillment in advance. It just seems the Pope's stay at the
summer residence may be indicated as a time of danger, and thus
* * * * *
I am familiar with this quatrain and have a somewhat different
view of it.
Actually, when I read line 2, it very much looks like Nostradamus
is saying that the "elected" pope will be a
"Sabine": the Sabines were an Italian tribe from
northwestern Italy, one of the various tribes that helped settle
the Roman empire.
At first glance, I suppose this might not sound particularly
revelatory. Most popes were Italian until Pope John Paul II.
However, the prophecy specifies what part of Italy he will come
from, and, what is more important, helps identify one of a small
number of popes remaining until the complete collapse of the
Church another 150 years from now. With popes from Poland (JPII,
now deceased), Germany (Benedict XVI), and possibly two from
France, I think Nostradamus wanted us to know that what is
described in the quatrain will happen when an Italian is once
I also believe that the last line is about an Albanian invasion.
It makes sence that a joint Russian-Islamic invasion of Europe
might wish to use European Muslims that are in close proximity to
Italy to aid in its conquest. Actually what Islamic nation is
closest to Italy than ALBANIA? The Albanians, as well as the
Kosovar, Presevar, and other Albanians from Serbia and Macedonia,
are largely Muslim. Nostradamus also mentions Dalmatia in another
quatrain as a base of operations, which is an oblast of Croatia
in the Adriatic Sea. Apparently missile attacks will be launched
against Rome from Croatia. Who would do that? Right next door to
Croatia is Bosnia, a nation of Bosniak Muslims. The Bosniaks, in
a new Balkans war, may one day overrun Croatia, and prepare it as
a base for Iranian and Arab actions against Italy, whilst the
Albanians from Albania, Serbia, and Macedonia actually launch
attacks inside Italy.
I also do not think Nostradamus would use both Sabine and Alba in
the manner he does if they are to refer to the same thing, unless
a Sabine (NW Italian) pope is injured by his own league (The
Sabines of Alba Longo). That would remove any Islamic element and
simply portend a new schism in the Church when the Holy See is
occupied once again by an Italian.
Having said that, there is still a possibility you may be right
about some sort of diplomatic injury (or real injury) to the
Papacy by Islamics at Castello Gandolfo, formerly Alba Longo
(that is if the ambassadors don't turn down the Pope's invitation
to meet there). However, there still must be division in the
ranks of the Vatican heirarchy first (quarrels, schisms,
sophisms) since the "red hats" are obviously the
cardinals. Thus far, there has been no sign of quarreling amongst
those in the Vatican. And only two days remain until September 25
for such internal discord to be aroused (unless the schism
happens on the same day the Muslims injure Rome).
However, if this does happen, new schisms form, the Vatican sets
to quarelling, and some sort of diplomatic or real injury to the
Papacy occurs at Castello Gandalfo by Islamic ambassadors or
radicals, I will still consider Nostradamus to be in error about
line 2, because that is definitely a line identifying the
nationality of one of the latter days popes as a Sabinois
Also, another quatrain says this same pope who is plagued by the
Albanois will only reign seven months and then die
tragically. Benedict XVI has reigned sixteen months, more than
twice as long.
Still, like the Mabus quatrain, which I believe has been
partially fulfilled twice already, this year and in 2001, the
quatrain you present could likewise be partially fulfilled in two
days time (injurious discussions at Castello Gandolfo, but no
schisms amongst the cardinals, or everything in the quatrain
being fulfilled but the pope's true nationality).
But the day will come when it shall be entirely fulfilled in the
worst possible way: an Albanian attack on Italy during the
European phase of WW3 (or WW4) when the Church is schismatic and
an Italian from NW Italy is pope.
This trouble with Benedict XVI and the Muslims is a perplexing
one for those of us who understand prophecy. The outbreak of
animosity of Muslims against the power centre of Christianity,
Rome, is not surprising. It is to be expected according to most
relevent prophecies. Unfortunately, none of the specific
prophecies at our perusal conforms to anything that is being
planned or is happening. Perhaps, in a convoluted way, 5.46, the
quatrain you have presented, may be one that will, at least
But many people believe the Pope is going to be murdered. I have
to confess that I find that an irresistable conclusion as well.
As it is, according to my base 7 system, there is incredible
danger to the pope between August and November 2006, and that
prediction has been on my site for quite a while. Yet, he is not
going to be visiting a city in Turkey noted for being watered by
two rivers (neither Istanbul nor Ankara are watered by TWO
rivers). Nor is he to be hiking up any holy mountains at Ephesus
in search of a notable corkwood cross at the top (ruins of the
temple of Diana he may find though). If he is killed at Castello
Gandolfo on September 25 that could be applied to the quatrain of
a great pope who dies in Rome (which most believe was Pope John
Paul II). The problem with it having been JPII or it being
Benedict XVI is that there also must be a naked eye comet visible
near Ursa Minor. There was none last year, and despite all the
hype concerning Comet 73P (Schwassmann-Wachmann) this year, it
was not seen by hardly anyone save through a telescope or, in
some lucky cases, binoculars. 2002's Comet Ikeya-Zhang was much
brighter than 73P, and for a much longer period of time, yet a
lot of people, including myself, couldn't even see that.
As things stand for the average person, the last truly visible
naked eye comets remain Hale-Bopp in 1997 and Hyakutake in 1996.
For the Aussies and New Zealanders it was Linear A2 in 2001.
Maybe the problem is that everyone is rushing things. Just
because the Muslim world has become outraged at the pope and some
Al Qaeda have discussed killing him doesn't mean death for the
pope is imminent. It may take six months, a year, or longer
before the right conditions occur that will also conform to
Nevertheless, in the meantime, I will be interested in what
happens on Monday.
----- Original Message
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: Benedict in Istanbul
Benedict is due to visit Istanbul later this year. He is of
course now hated in the muslim world for his reference in a
speech that Islam is spread by violence.
Istanbul is in a part of Turkey renowned for its roses, rose oil
Istanbul is also at the confluence of the Bosphorous connecting
it to the Black Sea and the Dardanelles that connect the Sea of
Mamara to the Aegean. True these are not rivers but they have the
imagery of rivers.
If you have been to Istanbul there are old Byzantine ruins
scattered around including the old city walls - indeed a half
Perhaps Benedict should cancel his trip to Istanbul.
* * * * *
The moment this all began, I wondered about the Pope's trip to
Turkey and if it in any way could be linked with Quatrain 2.97 or
with the Third Secret of Fatima.
By the way, he is also supposed to visit two other places during
his visit: Ankara and the ancient city of Ephesus. You might know
something about either of these beyond anything I found out. If
so, let me know.
Unfortunately, when Nostradamus says the city will be
"watered by two rivers" I doubt he could have mistook
the Dardanelles strait or the Black Sea for rivers.
Truly, Istanbul is only "watered" (and divided) by the
Nostradamus had an excellent model for a city watered by two
rivers in his own country: Paris. Also, Rome itself is watered by
two rivers. Technically, with all my warnings about Baghdad, it
is not really watered by two rivers either. Only the Tigris runs
through the city. However, because of Iraq's renown as the
"land between two rivers," I felt that one should
consider the potential double meaning in the last line in that
Yes, Nostradamus could have made a mistake in perception, but I
don't think so.
As for the ruins, I thought of those too. But there is more: in
this city of ruins the pope steps over the corpses of many slain
people and blesses them. Istanbul is not currently littered with
bodies on its streets. War has not touched it, although terrorism
Perhaps he will visit Istanbul at a time when terrorists strike
in the heart of the city?
But then, he would also be on his way to a steep, holy mountain
after passing through Istanbul, one with a notable cross at the
top, and I don't know what that would be. Not Ephesus.
It really feels as though we are forcing both the Nostradamus
quatrain and the Third Secret of Fatima to get them to correspond
to Istanbul. But perhaps one of them might work with Ankara? Are
there two rivers watering that city?
The two rivers do not have to be large and famous, they need only
be rivers to qualify.
Of course, Pope John Paul II visited Turkey and nothing happened
(but he was not under a threat of death either).
Perhaps the reason this is just not working out is because,
perhaps, the Vatican will call off the pope's trip.
There are other quatrains regarding the Vatican and Turkey, but
they portend danger for an important cardinal being taken hostage
and about a delegation of cardinals running into a crisis enroute
to Turkey. Nothing really about the pope, though.
The Pope need not travel to Turkey to die, in any event. He could
die or be killed right in Rome for that matter, especially if
there is a comet visible.
At the moment, however, I think it would be simply common sence,
under the current circumstances, if the Pope called off the trip
to Turkey himself.
Benedict the Last Pope?
----- Original Message
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Correction
i saw on your second home page today, that islamic extremists
want to punish the pope for his muslim views. About a week ago i
watched another one of the history channel's programs about
prophecies. You know the prophecy of 111 popes. Well it seems
that the 111th pope might be the last or the second to last pope:
Talking about Joseph Ratzinger the new pope, St Malachy as we all
know (!), prophesied that he is the penultimate pope:
No 111 - Gloria Olivae (The Glory Of The Olive).
According to Malachy, after Ratzinger (now known as Benedict
XVI), there is only supposed to be one more Pope before 'The
terrible judge will judge his people' - or Armageddon, doomsday,
judgement day etc.
Well, the way the world is going, this isn't too hard to believe
unfortunately. However, there is much evidence that St Malachy
only actually predicted 111 Popes in total. It's possible the
112th Pope was bolted on after the 1820 publication of Malachy's
writings. (This could be for any number of reasons....)
If this is true, then the new German Pope Ratzinger could well be
the last Pope before all these fun and games are over."
It fits the description of the 3 secret of fatima. Mike i think
this is indeed the last pope. After all if the vision of the 111
popes and the the third secret of fatima, share a common end to
the circumstances and demise of the catholic church. It is a part
of the coming of the antichrist to world war table. And i think
we both agree that the 3rd anitcrist as a person will emerge from
the middle east. This antichrist, will drive out the forces (us
and colonial) of the midle east. invade eastern europe, until the
violence has spread in europe, the war will not begin. But Russia
allied with Iran are on a page further than the world is, when it
comes to planning. When the misery of the war spreads to the
balkans, then this will be the confontation between the east and
the west, yet once again. World war 3 will emerge from where
world war 2 ended. What's for sure is that all world wars have
started in europe, coinicidence? Can you imagine the religious
effect on christian catholics if the catholic , vatican is
destroyed. What i think, is that the vatican and the catholic
church already know that the beggining of the end is near for
them. This is the start of a new millenium, a new age, a new
religion, and there is no room for the superstitions, lies, and
trickery that exists today. This upcoming battle will be in the
nature of good vs evil. If you will the froces of light against
darkness. However angels will not fight the war but we will.
What however may be more important is if there is a conspiracy in
the vatican, and even above those men. I do not doubt for a
second that the vatican is intermingled with the world elite.
They have been infact for a long while. The religion of the
catholic itself is a blasphemy to more orthodox believers. What I
am saying is that, the catholic vaticans probably know that they
don't have much time left. I am sure they are very afraid of the
St Malachy prophecy as well. I also believed that the end of the
present age (before ww3) is carefully calculated by the world
elite. I believe the wars today, economic faults, and diseases
are all enginnered as a part of a plan to elimnate 'useless'
lives. In fact, they must have been engineered for a long time.
What is most important however, is that the Elite know about
Nibiru, and it's impending encounter with earth. I believe these
rulers of our planet if you want to call them, have already
prepared and are waiting for the planet's arrival. This is the
presentation of the big show. Not only will nature punish us but
the power greedy rulers we have on earth today will help with the
elimination of human lives.
time will tell
But one thing's for sure. History repeats itself.
* * * * *
Unfortunately, by embracing Malachy's list of 111, and concluding
that Benedict XVI is indeed the 111th and last for all time, you
ignore all of Nostradamus' prophecies concerning some 10 future
popes (for future is what they must be since they bear no
resemblance to past popes).
If Benedict is killed or dies, and there are no more popes, then
what happens to the "great Pontiff" who is supposed to
support the "great Monarch" from France after World War
III? This is not merely a prophecy found in Nostradamus ... it
appears in hundreds, maybe thousands, of prophecies from Europe
since the time of Merlin (and even before that).
What happens to the Sabine pope (northwestern Italy) who must die
in Rome during Albanian attacks on Italy? What happens to the
pope "from ancient France" who wins an election against
a candidate from Spain (or Central or South America)? I won't
list the others, you know you can find them all discussed on
Nostradamus NOW Archives 1 at http://www.newprophecy.net/now2.htm.
I mentioned before that the Catholic Church included ten
antipopes in Malachy's list of popes. Malachy didn't authorise
this to be done. He couldn't since he was dead. The Church took
it upon itself to include the antipopes in his list of 111.
Why would they do such a thing? Really it is hypocritical.
On the one hand the Catholic Church brands ten men as
"antipopes" because they do not recognise them as
legitimate popes. That is what is means to be an antipope. It
does not mean that antipopes are "evil popes," it
simply means they are men with a smaller following than the
actual reigning pope claiming to be pope without the authority to
do so. These antipopes often reign at the same time as legitimate
popes or reign temporarily during a schism in the Church (again
So, again, on the one hand the Catholic Church brands ten men
after Malachy's death as "antipopes" because they do
not recognise them as legitimate popes.
Then, on the other hand, they add these ten illegitimate
antipopes to Malachy's list of 111 popes.
Why? Certainly not because Malachy wanted it that way.
I think they did it to assure that by the end of the millenium,
by the year 2000, there would be close to 111 popes having
reigned. The Catholic Church has always insisted that the end of
the world would come as early as the second half of the 20th
Century or at least by 2000.
Think about that, and think about all the Nostradamus prophecies
of popes who have not yet reigned, including the "great
Pontiff" that many many prophets also have predicted will
follow World War III.
If I have a choice, I'll go with Nostradamus over Malachy.
Yes, it is true: as far as we and 2/3 of humanity are concerned,
World War III and the catastrophes that Nibiru will bring may as
well be the end of the world.
However, no European prophet declares World War III will be
Armageddon. Most prophets of the last 1800 years say there will
be less people on the planet and that they will rebuild and that
a new Church age will begin. The true antichrist (the beast of
Revelation), Armageddon, and the Second Coming are still farther
away in the future. It is why if you read any prophecy about
World War III (or invasion of Europe by the East), that in the
aftermath you have 1) a period of mob rule, continued war, and
revolution in Spain, France, and Italy 2) the rise to power of
the great Monarch and great Pontiff, both from France 3) and
finally a great peace where the Church is once again in its
Most prophecies "trail off" there, but some continue on
for a considerable length before the Antichrist (beast) arrives
Don't confuse Nostradamus' "third antichrist" with the
Bible's "the beast," they are not the same thing.
Where is the "third antichrist" in the Bible? Although
he is not called "the third antichrist", he is the same
person who appears as the conqueror on a white horse whose entire
purpose is to conquer and destroy at the beginning of the Book of
Revelation (the first oif the four horsemen, which is to say the
first seal). He is also the Persian conqueror that appears at the
beginning of Daniel's long prophecy of the future in his Chapter
11. He is also discussed in Daniel's Chapter 8.
I know it is difficult to believe, but the world will become a
much worse place AND a much better place than it is now ... and
that switchover between the two will continue for another 236
years finally ending the way the Bible says it shall.
----- Original Message
September 16, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Pope Benedict's remarks
Do you think the Pope's comment about Islam that he made in
Germany is the begginning of the fufillment of Quatrain 2.97.
* * * * *
It may or may not be.
I checked out Turkey, where he is to visit November 28-December
1, and neither Istanbul, Ankara, nor ancient Ephesus (the three
cities he will be visiting) are "watered by two rivers"
or even situated between two rivers.
Turkey will one day be a deadly place for a major cardinal, and
for a group of cardinals as well, according to Nostradamus, but
no mention of the Pope being in danger there.
The time of the Rose (if late spring and early summer are
intended) is virtually over as we approach autumn on September
21. By the time of the late November trip, it will definitely be
long past the time of the Rose. However, if "The Rose"
means a resurgent interest in or focus on the late Princess
Diana, moreover an actual worshipping of Diana, that is an event
that could still happen at anytime, even late November.
I would also point out that the Pope will be visiting ancient
Ephesus whilst in Turkey, which contain the ruins of the Temple
of Diana, the pagan goddess (and I believe a day will come when
the ancient goddess Diana and the late princess Diana will become
regarded as the same personage).
Otherwise, I would say Quatrain 2.97 can only apply to the
current Pope if he visits a city watered by two rivers during
late spring or early summer of 2007 if Muslim hatred for him is
still running high.
Could the Pope be killed in Turkey even if Nostradamus didn't
My base 7 prediction shows danger of death for the current pope
during August-October 2006 on page 2006 (Part Two). Late November
2006 is close enough to that vector.
And, of course, he need not go to Turkey for it to happen during
the current August-October 2006 period. It could happen right in
----- Original Message
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: Some Research
Dear Mr. Mcclellan,
I enjoy your site for a few years. I'm interested in a lot of
prophecy and stuff like that. I have some comments with reserch I
do for at least for myself.
I think Quatrain 2.97 is
about what happened already with Pius VI and Napolean.
Roman Pontiff beware of
Of the city where two rivers water,
Your blood you will come to spit in that place,
Both you and yours when blooms the Rose.
Also on your theory that
St. Malachy didn't recognize John Paul I. If St. Malachy talked
about the anti-popes (I know you don't think Malachy talked about
them either) he forgot about anti-pope innocent III (1179-1180).
He had a short reign, so St. Malachy could have skipped him just
as much as John Paul I.
I read in one of the
emails you talked about not knowing of a nephew of a pope. Well I
read that the true Pope Innocent III was nephew of Pope Clement
III, Innocent III had a nephew, Pope Gregory IX. Gregory's
nephew, Pope Alexander IV. I understand that some of these popes
were before Nostradamus, but I still found it interesting.
Thanks and keep it up.
* * * * *
The big problem I have with the idea that the death of Pius at
Valence in 1799 pertains to Quatrain 2.97 is the wording in line
4. I know it may sound like a small thing, but it yields larger
questions. The wording "both you and yours."
Pius was the ONLY one to die bleeding from the mouth (from
gastric enteritis). Where are the others who would likewise die
with him in the same fashion? It does say "Both you and
yours." "Yours" suggests that other people will be
with the pope and meet the same fate. Pius died alone.
Now, this little phrase yields a larger picture when we look at
the prophecy in The Third Secret of Fatima. There we are
presented with a scenario where the Pope AND his fellow clergymen
and clergywomen (bishops, priests, nuns, etc) are all murdered
under a hail of bullets by soldiers.
Contrary to what was said when the secret was released in 2000,
this prophecy has never been fulfilled. Pope John Paul II was the
only one wounded (and not killed). No other priests, bishops,
nuns, officers, etc who were with him were also shot.
So, we have two similar prophecies, neither of which were
fulfilled to the letter. Only Pius died at Valence, no one else
(as indicated by "both you and yours"). Only John Paul
II was shot, no one else (as indicated by mention in the Third
Secret of many others following along with the Pope also being
Thanks for the additional information. I didn't know about the
extra antipope nor the nephews. But I must ask of these nephews:
were any murdered?? This is what Nostradamus says shall happen:
that the nephew of "the great Pontiff" will be clubbed
to death by a band of cardinals led by one who will become a
Intruiging stuff, eh?
Thanks for visiting my site and for your support.
----- Original Message
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Air assault
I am just watching about
the 3 secrets of Fatima, and wonder how are they so accurate and
detailed, about the 2nd W.W.
The 3 rd secret however is
no secret at all. It's obvius that it's about the last vatican
pope. You already know that. However, i think that you doubt
yourself wrongly if you dismiss the Anti-popes who lived in in
the 13th 14th century period. They are the ones included in the
It's the only logical
explanation. If God, indeed gave an accurate vision to this
prophecy, he must have foreseen all of time (which includes the
wicked, heretic, and autonomous popes through the centuries. This
is the whole point of the popes.. Just because the pope is
corrupted by evil doesn't mean that he is not to be counted in
the prophecy, indeed, we are hinted that today, At the End Times,
the last Pope will fall under the power of evil, it's what the
prophecy is all about!
God has shortened the second Coming pf Christ and his Angels. It
has already started! You're not going to see Jesus or any angels
descend from the skies however. Jesus and his angels, have
already descended into the bodies of the faithful, and they will
be the ones, who will start the new world, after Satan is
Churches today gather the sheep to preach on them when Jesus will
return??? This is rubbish! Jesus has always been with us, he is
with the faithful, he is the Holy Spirit of God. Not a magical
fairie, or Alien or an Angel as people would like to think . No,
only kids who watch the disney channel can believe in this.
The truth is much more shocking then we realize, it's all coming
together now. Now is not the time to stop feel sorry for
ourselves. It is at this time precisely where we have to stop,
think, and use the greatest power of the Universe, love, for it,
and it it's beings, and remain faithful with the true power of
Christ within. Only then will the war stop, and evil be defeated.
* * * * *
It is not over concerns such as "evil" that I have put
forth the theory that the antipopes might not have been
considered in Malachy's vision.
For one thing, understand that all an "antipope"
actually is is a person who is claiming the title of pope, but is
not elected or recognised by the majority of the College of
Cardinals. He is not "evil." Indeed, he may be a very
good man, a better person, perhaps, than the real pope. He is
simply ruling without the authority to do so. Often these
antipopes reigned at the same time as the legitimate pope.
Malachy foresaw an orderly procession of 112 popes, one man
following after the other. But how could this be when there were
two, even three, men ruling at the same time? The Catholic Church
is responsible for crediting these antipopes as part of the
succession, not Malachy. If you look at a list of the popes at
the time there were so many antipopes, you will see it was one
hell of a mess!
Anyway, at the risk of repeating myself, it is the Catholic
Church that has declared that those men who had no legitimate
right to reign as pope were "antipopes." So I must ask,
why the same Catholic Church that does not recognise the
authority of these men allowed each of them to appear in
Malachy's list of future popes? It is a contradiction.
My best guess is that the Church knew that if they did not
include them, there would be too many popes on the list left yet
to reign by the end of the millennium ... and the Church was
pushing the idea that the end of the millennium would be the time
of the last pope and the Second Coming of Christ.
Yet many early Catholic prophecies contradict this idea as well.
St Methodius was one who prophesied the great war that so many
later prophets would call the "last war" (what we call
World War III, and are likely in at this time). However, in his
prophecy, after the great war there would be a peace and the
Church would reign supreme once again, only to be followed by
another greater war and another Roman emperor (Western leader)
ushering in an even larger and greater peace and Church age,
followed by a war resulting from the opening of the Gates of
North, then a war of Antichrists fighting one another and killing
many Christians, followed by the final abomination of the last
Antichrist (who St John called "the beast").
Nor was St Methodius alone in this early Christian belief about
events after the beginning of the millennium, and I would add
that Nostradamus definitely concurs with this same chronology as
evidenced in his Epistle to Henry II. I would also say it
resembles the events outlined in Daniel's prophecy that is all of
his Chapter 11 and the opening verses of his Chapter 12. In later
years, after the year 1000 AD, this prophecy of St Methodius and
others that shared his view was SEVERELY EDITED or ABRIDGED by
"inspired Catholic prophets" so as to portray the great
war of the millennium 2000 as the "last war," followed
by a seven year peace under a "great monarch" who,
dying, will give up his crown in Jerusalem, and is then
immediately followed by Antichrist (note that it is a great
monarch of France or Germany who reigns seven years, and not the
beast whose length of reign is never given in these revised
I therefore hold most, but not all, of the Catholic prophecies
after 1000 AD highly suspect. The prophecies of St Hildegard, for
example, appear to be divinely inspired: there are none other
like her prophecies about the Antichrist. I also find the 20th
Century European prophets, although somewhat derivative of others
since 1000, are too specific and unique to be ignored. You may
note that these three in particular, Alois Irlmaier, Erna
Steiglitz, and the Seer of Waldviertel (who is still living), see
the coming world war as a truly terrible and horrific war, but
certainly not Armageddon because they also foresee a HUMAN peace
afterwards and a Church age, not the Second Coming of Christ.
But I see from your letter that I have strayed somewhat by
discussing the last two paragraphs. The whole point I was trying
to make with this discussion is that the Catholic Church has been
manipulating divinely insipired prophecy so as to make it fit
their view of when end times events shall occur ... and the
conventional view since 1000 AD has been that they would begin
with the year 2000 AD.
Other prophets do not agree with that view, and neither do I.
Date: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:34 PM
Hi again Kris,
Just one correction:
In the last paragraph of my email I just sent, I said the
Catholic Church was manipulating when "end times" would
begin. I meant to say, they were manipulating when the seven-year
"Tribulation" or the very final seven years of the end
times would begin (which for them has been 2000 AD or not long
after or before).
As for the "end times" themselves I consider that to
have the same meaning as "the latter days": a final age
of mankind that may be many decades or even a few centuries long.
I believe we are either now in these latter days or shall begin
them when Iran's Ahmadinejad declares war (he is the conqueror
whose sole purpose is to go forth and conquer who appears as the
first seal in the Book of Revelation). When the sixth seal is
opened, and everyone on earth must behold God's face on the day
of His Wrath (I hold that shall be a single day when Planet X
shall take on the appearance of God's face), then everyone will
know the latter days are truly begun.
Yet, if you continue to read on after the sixth seal's opening,
you can tell immediately that there is some distance to travel
before the world reaches the "age of the seventh
angel": that being the seventh trumpet that sounds after the
seventh seal is opened. And all of this precedes by many years
the appearance of the woman in Revelation 12, the war in heaven
when Satan and his fallen angels are cast upon the earth (they
have freedom to move about in space yet), the two witnesses and
their rapture, the great earthquake in the Middle East, and the
rise of the beast and false prophet.
dream symbolizing Pope John Paul II
----- Original Message
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:43 AM
Subject: My dream symbolizing Pope John Paul II
It is the one year anniversary of Pope John Paul's death and I am
thinking of him. I had a dream 7 days before he was shot in 1981.
My dreams are only symbols and I always get them wrong but after
the event occurs, It is as plain as a bell.
I walked into a public restroom and saw a television. It said
Special Report and then there was a picture of the word John and
then Paul and then a gun. I awoke as I do when it is a dream of
things to come. The feeling is like when someone you love has
just died, very unpleasant.
I called my husband crying and told him that I was very upset
because John Lennon has just died and now Paul is going to be
shot too. One week later as I watched TV there was a Special
Bulletin. They said Pope John Paul has just been shot. I felt so
shocked. Now my dream made perfect sense.
But why did I have to dream it?
* * * * *
Good question. I know how you feel.
I had all kinds of premonitions, indications from one Nostradamus
quatrain, and a system of determining future events based on the
number 7, all of which were leading me to the inescapable
conclusion that Princess Diana would die, possibly murdered by
someone who was French, in August 1997. I didn't know the exact
day, but I knew the month and year.
And it happened ... at a time when I was powerless to do anything
about it. I couldn't share my fears with anyone, there was no one
to share them with. No time for a book. No computer. No
experience yet on the Internet. No way to know how to get my
concerns conveyed to her.
Now I have a website ... but even when I am right about something
important, it doesn't seem to change anything. And I run into
more inaccurate predictions now that I am online than I did when
no one knew who the hell I was or what I was doing.
And why did I know so much about what would happen to Diana when
I could do nothing about it?
I was in a similar situation, I guess.
Secret of Fatima
----- Original Message
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: Third Secret of Fatima
I'm just a few pages into your website and have been reading
about the Third Secret of Fatima and your speculation that the
pope/bishops/religious group will be walking through a city
partially destroyed by war.
The translation of what Sister Lucia wrote is:
Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at
the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of
a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father
passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with
halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the
souls of the corpses he met on his way; "
What if the punctuation in the translation is wrong? Punctuated
differently it would read: Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious
going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big
Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark.
Before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city
half in ruins and half trembling. With halting step, afflicted
with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he
met on his way.
(This way of punctuating it seemed right to me as who "half
trembles"? You either are trembling or you aren't.)
This then would seem to suggest a city ruined by earthquake that
was still experiencing aftershocks.
Perhaps a large earthquake that killed so many that there were
still dead in the streets when the Pope felt compelled to
visit....or.....the Pope and the others are already IN the city
when the earthquake hits.....
Just thoughts. What do you think?
* * * * *
It is possible, but that would require that the soldiers who kill
the pope and his "bishops, priests, men and women
religious" are in the city just by coincidence when the
Also, note that a "big city half in ruins" probably has
not been attacked by a nuclear weapon, unless it is a metropolis
the size of New York or Los Angeles (which by description of the
holy mountain and cathedral with cross at top, it cannot be).
Also, the Pope and his entourage would be committing suicide
walking into a area with lethally-high doses of radiation. Thus,
the attack on the city was conventional, possibly half ruined by
something like Fuel Air Explosives.
Under those circumstances, invading soldiers may very well be in
the city, taking control of the undestroyed portion, rounding up
survivors as prisoners of war, and preparing the way for
occupation forces that would eventually rebuild the city.
The thing is, the likeliest identity of this city is Avignon in
France, based on the peculiar match of the hill called Le Rocher
des Doms and the Cathedral Notre Dame des Doms at top. It is the
best match I have seen so far to the holy mountain and Cross.
And southern France, including Avignon, will be under military
attack when a pope is in hiding there according to Nostradamus,
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