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Subject: the pope prophecy
Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:42 AM
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Subject: Pope Francis and Prophecies
Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:09 AM
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like nostradamous or fatima are talking about Rio de Janeiro
Brasil. It also has a big cross on top and there is a big muslim
community in the area of falls do iguasu which is also located
Subject: antichrist, false prophet
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Mike....I hope you
are doing well.
I have been
following this trip of Obama's to Israel for March 20th and also
the Pope resigning and a new Pope being elected. A lot of folks
seem to think that Obama is the antichrist. I do not believe that
Obama is the antichrist but instead is MABUS whose death ignites
WW3. I think the true antichrist (Prince William) is pulling the
strings behind the scenes and using Obama as a front man and
sacrificial lamb to bring about the end times. The whole thing
with Obama's car being the beast, his call sign the renegade and
being he is riding on a donkey(democrat) into Israel soon is part
of the deception of the true antichrist. Its too obvious to me at
least that Obama is a front.
The next Pope (the
false prophet) and a resurrected John Paul 2 possibly will help
the true antichrist (William) thru further deception and a 7 year
peace plan to bring about the Apocalypse. I've been reading all
this for months and months going back and forth. I truly believe
that Israel may think Obama is the antichrist and have him
assassinated the week of the 20th this month igniting WW3.
The war will rein
IMO for a short time only to have the resurrected Pope (False
Prophet) and Prince William (Antichrist) present a 7 year peace
plan to stop the bloodshed. The new temple will be built and The
Pope will have a seat there with the antichrist and they will
control their flock there.
I think the Pope
was forced to quit because the time for this prophecy is at hand.
The Vatican imo has been involved in this whole planning from the
beginning. Any info would be appreciated. I hold i am wrong ....
Take Care Chris
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Have you been reading my homepage and 2013 (Part One)? You would
know, if you did, that 49 years (7 x 7), two months, and two
weeks passed between the assassinations of US President Abraham
Lincoln (April 14, 1865) and Austro-Hungarian Archduke Franz
Ferdinand (June 28, 1914). Another 49 years (7 x 7), four months,
three weeks, and one day transpired between the assassination of
Archduke Ferdinand (June 28, 1914) and US President John F.
Kennedy (November 22, 1963). Another 49 years, six months, four
weeks and two days after Kennedy's November 22, 1963
assassination, the dreaded date will be June
21, 2013: an important sacrificial date in
occult circles. However, if the process is a doubling of months,
then it would instead be 49 years, eight months, four weeks and
two days after November 22, 1963 ... or August 21, 2013.
In this day and age that has seen the world become a New World
Order, the person assassinated could be either a European or an
American or ... even someone from the Middle
President Barack Obama is definitely at risk, and there were
assassination plots thwarted not far from Kennedy's death
anniversary (November 2012). Now he must be cautious again during
the cited June or August 2013 dates mentioned above.
Forgive me for quoting from own website, but I really can't see
any point in re-inventing the wheel.
Yes, I think if we are living in apocalyptic times, we will see
the assassination of Mabus
this year. June 21, 2013 sounds like a good day for it. Of
course, for all those German/Austrian prophecies that warn about
the guns of August going off and starting WW3, August
21 sounds pretty foreboding too.
Obama is certainly a good candidate for Mabus, I agree. And Comet
ISON will be a perfect followup to the Hell his death shall
I also agree that Mabus is NOT the beast of Revelation 13. Note I
say "beast" and not "antichrist." It was
actually prophets like St Hildegard, Melanie Calvat, and
Nostradamus who popularised the term "antichrist", and
not the Bible. Some prophets simply call him "the inhuman
monster" and other appellations.
The OT prophet Daniel made it clear to me in his Chapter 11
prophecy that there will be many figures to come whom we might
call "antichrist." The king of Persia is one. The king
of the south (of which there are several) and the king of the
north (of which there are also several mentioned) are both
antichrists, for example. At one point, a southern antichrist is
at war with the northern one. Nostradamus tells us these two
thoroughly evil men will be engaged in a contest to see which one
of them can spill the most blood and redden the sea.
Yet neither will survive. Even a third northern king, "the
raiser of taxes," yet another antichrist, will not survive.
But in his estate will
come a prince knowing dark sentences
who will seek the realm. Seven kings will bow down to him; three
will not. In Daniel 8
he is called "the little horn." And he will destroy
the three kings who will not pledge their allegiance to him and
take their lands.
This is a warlike man,
a military man. He may
also be of royal blood.
And he is also political.
He craves the power of
a monarch, a universal monarch.
He has no
interest in occupying a tiny room in the
Vatican and playing the role of a great religious leader. He
wants the power that comes with running a nation and an empire.
You atre closer to the truth of who the beast is when you say
Prince William than when you say, in your more recent letter,
that it is Benedict pontiff emeritus.
He will not be the pope.
Can a pope be a false prophet?
That is possible. But
do not discount other religions, especially new age ones that
suddenly become popular and go global like the Moonies did.
According to Nostradamus the truly final pope of all time will be
celebrated almost as a demigod,
but people will soon tire of him and he will then be largely
ignored and leave the palaces of the Vatican and the Bibles to be
burned, going off alone to some desolate
retreat, forlorn and
sad. Then Antichrist
shall be the infernal prince.
Prince William as the beast? Since he married Kate Middleton this
is beginning to look less and less likely.
Surely the wife of the beast would have been acknowledged in the
Book of Revelation. Now she is pregnant. When the child is born,
will it be the son of the beast or the daughter of the beast?
Daniel says the beast will have nothing to
do with women, will not
care for their attentions.
He will be so self-loving he will exalt
himself above all human affections.
Can such a person marry and have children???
Personally, I do not believe the beast has revealed himself yet
or been revealed by events or other people. But, if he is to
become known, I think it will be next year, in 2014.
Assuming, of course, that we are truly living in the final days
of Tribulation ... if we are in the Book of Revelation at all, I
don't think we have yet moved beyond the four horsemen of the
Apocalypse. We may soon see the third seal opened, and the famine
and hunger and disease that will attend its opening .. then will
come the pale horse and Death shall be its rider, and Hell shall
follow with him ...
Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112
Subject: Emeritus Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112
Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:55 PM
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Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope 112
the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of
the seven, and goes into perdition. And the ten horns which you
saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but
receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one
mind, and shall give their power and strength to the beast."
Prophet is the new "Pope" and the old and only Pope
Benedict is the Antichrist. Benedict was Malachy's Pope 111. Well
something that has never happened and is against the rules is
Benedict changed his name to Emeritus Pope. Changing titles makes
him a new Pope IMO. Emeritus Pope is Peter The Roman and Pope
112. The "New" false Pope is Bergoglio, Who Will Be
Pope Francis. Cant have two reining Popes at the same
time....Thats why the "NEW" Pope asked his flock to
pray for him. He knows he will be serving the Antichrist. The
lightening strike at the Vatican IMO possessed Benedict making
him the Antichrist. He is the 7th King and the 8th King IMO. The
New Pope will serve him. He asked people to pray for him. He will
pray with Emeritus Pope AKA Peter The Roman today and swear oath
to him...The 10 Kings don't have their power yet. I expect
leaders of 10 nations soon to come to the Vatican for 1 hour and
pledge allegiance to the Church and the antichrist. He will give
them their power.
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No, Benedict is not the beast. The pontiff
emeritus, or the pope for that matter, are
not political warrior types.
You were closer with the Prince William idea, although I think
events are making him less and less likely a candidate as well,
irregardless of the "bloodline."
Yes, the Pope or pontiff emeritus could be the false prophet (or
else an archetype for one).
So could the head of any global religion. The Moonies were always
a possibility ... until Moon died. There are new age religions
gaining in popularity.
I don't think the false prophet is yet revealed. Nor the beast.
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Love the site, very intriguing! Just a brief observation, could
Benedict XVI be the pope that "flees" the Vatican?
Since he is quiting and turning his back on it? Just a thought.
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That's a good question!
The reason it is is because Comet PanSTARRS is supposed to become
very bright in the northern hemisphere beginning March 1. The
Pope officially resigns on February 28, but there will be no pope
afterwards until one is elected. That election process won't
begin until at least March 9 or 10, maybe not till March 15 (when
last I checked, news reports were saying the the conclave may
begin sooner than March 15, like March 9 or 10, but nothing for
It is entirely possible a new pope will not actually be elected
and installed into office until Easter, March 31. That means,
depending on your point of view, that March will largely be a
month without a pope, or a month that will still have Pope
Benedict's "brand" on it, even though he will have
resigned. And maybe the resignation date itself may even be moved
to sometime in March, one never knows.
Comet PanSTARRS is supposed to reach its brightest on March 10.
Astronomers are currently warning that PanSTARRS may wimp out at
magnitude 3, still bright enough to be seen away from the glare
of city lights, but hardly a major comet. How a comet looks at
magnitude 3 is hard to predict ... the size of the comet and
distance also figure. Some magnitude 3 comets cannot be seen
except in real country dark. Others can be seen quite easily from
The point is: what if PanSTARRS becomes a lot brighter than
expected? Astronomers are also warning it could go into outburst
or become more radiant after passing the sun, and become a major
comet as originally believed.
If PanSTARRS is the comet ("great star") that burns for
seven days and nights as described by Nostradamus, it is possible
that the retired Pope Benedict will leave Italy rather than move
to the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo in Lazio. But
conditions of global war would likely have to occur at this time
... and I doubt there is enough time for all that to happen.
The comet in question is much more likely to be Comet
ISON, which astronomers are predicting will
be the brightest comet in all of history. It begins to be seen in
the northern hemisphere in the second half of November 2013, and
will remain an easy to see naked eye object throughout December
and January 2014, before fading from view in February 2014. Thus,
this comet is more likely to be applied to the Pope in office at
that time ... either the next pope elected or else his successor.
I believe there will be three popes this year, the soon-to-retire
Benedict XVI being the first of the three, which means the next
pope will have a short reign and will be murdered or
assassinated. I believe this second pope of 2013 will be the
Archbishop of Milan, Angelo Scola.
Then, and I have projected this for October of this year or
earlier, his successor, the third pope of 2013, will be elected.
That pope may be the one who leaves the Vatican when Comet ISON
is at its brightest. I truly believe that, if events currently
underway remain unchecked, by that time World War III will be
upon us and forces from space and spiritual beings from other
dimensions will unleash additional horror on our world. Sometime
between November 2013 and February 2014, the passage of Comet
ISON, may come the "three days of darkness" of
Hopefully this scenario will not happen. But the opportunity for
such a scenario presents itself. But like most opportune events,
it can be prevented. But I do think the next pope elected will be
murdered and a third pope elected in the fall.
Malachy/Mindy McCready/Lady Gaga
Subject: St. Malachy/Mindy McCready/Lady Gaga
Date: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:37 PM
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How are you doing?
Recently sent you an email (McCartney/Sandy Hook) with several
additional music links. Should come up with some new tracks soon.
Hey... Heard about St. Malachy and his prophecy?
His predictions start with the 167th Pope, Celestine II. Pope
Benedict XVI, the 267th Pope, was the 111th Pope of his prophecy.
All his mottos regarding each one of those Popes were accurate.
According to his prophecy, the next Pope could be Petrus Romanus
(Peter the Roman) and lead to the final dismantlement and
destruction of the Roman Catholic Church. What do you think?
Also, the very tip of St. Peter's Basilica got struck with
lightning hours after the Pope's resignation... Coincidence?
Country singer Mindy McCready died due to an apparent suicide.
She had reportedly attempted suicide on two occasions before and
her boyfriend had committed suicide just last month...
Could she be the blonde singer you said could die in 2013? Singer
Jenni Rivera did die last December 9th.
Went to Lady Gaga's 'Born This Way Ball'! Got floor tickets. It
was awesome! Very long and original concert... A great mixture of
pop, dance, acoustic and rock.
I'm glad I got to see the 'Born This Way Ball' live, especially
since all remaining shows have been cancelled! Gaga explained
she'd been dealing with severe joint inflammation for weeks but
hid it from her team. It was first announced 3 shows would be
postponed but then revealed she needed hip surgery and the
remainder of the tour would be cancelled...
Also, not one but 2 different psychics, astrologer Rodrigo
Rodriguez Ardila and psychic Michael Hayek, forsaw death for Lady
Gaga in 2013.
Psychic Michelle Whitedove predicted turmoil and possible suicide
for Lady Gaga in the coming years...
What do you think?
After 86 public acts of contrition in 2012 (2 of the 88 concerts
were shortened), I think Madonna's more than safe. :)
* * * * *
If you have read my pope prophecy page and recent update on the
Second Home page, you would know I do not agree that Malachy's
mottos have been attributed to the proper popes. This is because
9 of them were applied to ANTIPOPES, not actual popes, and
Malachy intended these mottos to be applied to legitimate popes.
Therefore, we have to the roll the list back nine popes. Thus,
John Paul II was not Labour of the Sun, but Cross of Crosses, and
Benedict XVI was not Glory of the Olive, but Light in the Sky.
Two major comets were seen in 2007, McNaught and Holmes, Comet
Pan-STARRS just became visible to the naked eye on the day the
pope announced his resignation, later that night another light
from heaven, a bolt of lightning, struck the dome of St. Peter's
basilica. Four days later a light brighter than the sun appeared
over Russia in the form of a large meteorite explosion and
inpact. Benedict is still the Pope until he resigns February 28
(at that time Pan-STARRS will start becoming very bright,
becoming its brightest in mid-March, while the enclave is busy
electing the next pope).
The next pope will therefore be Ingis Ardens (Burning Fire) ...
not good as we seem to be headed for World War III.
Back in 2008 I warned that Mindy McCready would attempt suicide
in 2010. She did, she overdosed, but survived. My prediction for
that year was fulfilled. At that time I said if she tried it
again she would die.
Then I predicted a country diva would die violently in April
2012. Ten months later than I projected, this month, Mindy
McCready died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head.
PREDICTION FULFILLED on all counts. It's too bad, but I guess it
was only a matter if time.
Another blonde, an actress this time, will likely commit suicide
this autumn. It is possible, rather than an actress, it will be a
singer. That could be Lady Gaga.
There is also the question of the next Dana Plato ... someone who
started her career as a child (like Lindsay Lohan, for example).
Events are happening so fast I can hardly keep up pointing out
the ones I predicted. And I have more predictions to post for
this year, 2014, 2015 and 2016.
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Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:11 PM
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I believe that the issue of whether or not the next pope is
really 'Petrus Romanus' may in itself set off a great schism in
the Church. Clearly one faction believes Malachy's list of popes
has been fulfilled to the letter but for the last pope. But there
are others who hold that there will be an indeterminate number of
popes in between 'Gloria Olivae' and 'Petrus Romanus.'
And I am sure there are those who are realistic enough to realise
that Malachy would never have included the 9 antipopes in his
list to whom the Vatican wrongly applied 9 mottos intended for 9
popes. This is the reason I believe the list must be
rolled back by 9 mottos so that Pope John
Paul II becomes 'Crux de Cruce' ('Cross of Crosses') rather than
'De Laboris Solis,' and Benedict XVI becomes, not 'Gloria
Olivae,' but 'Lumen in Caelo' ('Light in the Sky' or 'Light in
One can easily see that view with a comet that is to become very
bright throughout the month of March entering the edge of naked
eye visibility on the morning of February 11, the day Benedict
announced his intention to resign. Later that night, lightning
struck the dome of St Peter's basilica. Four days later, the
"light" (bright as the sun at one point) of a large
meteorite exploded above a Russian city, then impacted as another
"light", an asteroid, passed the earth.
Remember, Benedict is still the pope, and will be through
February 28. That means all this phenomena with bright light from
the heavens is applied to him, not his successor. As to what
happens during the nearly one month there is no pope at all,
possibly all the way to Easter, March 31, while an enclave is
selected to vote for a new pope, I don't know. Should Comet
Pan-STARRS in March be applied still to the resigned Benedict? I
would say "yes" since there is no other personage to
which it can be applied until the name of the elected one is made
I believe Angelo Scola, the Archbishop of Milan and former
Patriarch of Venice, will be the Italian elected. Will they say
he is 'Petrus Romanus?' Some will suggest this, yes. The reaction
to this, in turn, will be the sophistry aimed at him by
non-Catholics that he is the false prophet.
You and I know of course that the real false prophet is a certain
Syrian Jewish rabbi.
And indeed, in reality, the next pope will actually be 'Ignis
Ardens' ('Burning Fire'). I do not think he will live long and
yet another pope will be elected before this year ends (making
2013 a Triple Pope year like 1978). At which point 'Religio
depopulata' ('Religion depopulated') is elected.
These are absolutely horrible mottos for any pope at a time like
this. 'Ignis Ardens' suggests a world war and possibly a limited
or full-scale nuclear war. It also could refer to fire from an
asteroid impact or even Planet X. 'Religio depopulata' escalates
the situation to a great depopulation/destruction/devastation of
Christians, even worse, mass death worldwide of people of all
religions (from war, disease, and famine). 25 months of warfare
later, comes the great French pontiff of which there are so many
many prophecies, the one whose motto must therefore be 'Fides
intrepida' ('Intrepid faith'). Some prophecies state the French
pope will restore the Church to what it was in the First Century
AD, after the crucifixion of Jesus. After his death, according to
some prophecies that take the long view, will reign
simultaneously three 'angelic popes' or 'angelic pastors.' Thus
it is interesting to find the next pope in line after 'Fides
intrepida' is 'Pastor Angelicus' (perhaps he will be the more
powerful or popular of the three). I won't continue with the
list, that would require more time than I have ...
But you can see how fitting 'Lumen in Caelo' is now to the still
Pope Benedict XVI, given recent "light in the sky"
phenomena of recent days and that to come at the end of this
month and in March (comet, lightning, asteroid, meteorite) and
how disturbingly apocalyptic 'Ignis Ardens' and 'Religio
depopulata' sound in our time.
I know if you look at the history of how these mottos were
applied it might seem otherwise, but then I would find the
dazzling "light in the sky" displays of the last five
days far more appropriate to Pope Benedict XVI as 'Lumen in
Caelo' rather than the tired tale that it was applied to Pope Leo
XIII because his coat-of-arms featured a shooting star. It is
said Pope Pius was 'Ignis Ardens' because of the Tunguska Event,
which no one saw, but the entire world has now seen the
Chelyabinsk Event in all its glory and dread.
Anyway, this will get interesting, I think. I suspect a major
schism is coming and even the election of not only a legitimate
pope, but an antipope. This Cardinal Tarcisio Pietro Evasio
Bertone may well be the antipope one faction of the Church will
attempt to push onto the world as 'Petrus Romanus.' Meantime,
another faction will elect the true pope, possibly this Angelo
Scola I have mentioned.
Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 5:49 AM
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Hello, just a little correction; Angelo Scola isn't the Cardinal
of Venice anymore. Now he is the Cardinal of Milan.
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Well, at least it places him a little closer to being the pope
Nostradamus calls "the Sabine" (Sabinois).
Have any good ideas for a cardinal from the central Apennines or
other ancient territories of the pre-Roman era Sabine people ...
who would be a contender for pope?
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Hello Mike, good in fact here in Italy, Angelo Cardinal Scola is
regarded likely a next Pope
from central Italy? Let me think, Cardinal Ennio Antonelli
(President of the Pontifical Council for the Families), Cardinal
Giuseppe Betori (Archbishop of Florence) and Cardinal Agostino
Vallini (Vicar for Rome) come form central Italian Apennines. But
I hope next Pope will be an African.
calls for Angelicans to come back
Subject: pope calls for Angelicans to come back
Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:58 AM
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Thanks for the info ... seems to bolster my own prediction
further about about an Anglican-Catholic merger (ultimately, I
suspect the plan is to pull back all the Protestant faiths and
create one Church).
"Ancient prophecies" ... those that deal with a future
German pope ... seem to be conflicted as to whether he is an
antipope or a real pope, even the so-called "great
Pontiff" (which Nostradamus suggests is French, not just
because he mentions him as coming from "ancient
France," which can be applied to other countries like
Germany and Belgium, but because he also calls him the
"cardinal of France" prior to his election).
In any event, may be best not to bite one's nails. I still think
Malachy's list is off by 10 popes because that would mean
including 10 antipopes and the extremely short reign of John Paul
I in the list, which I doubt he would have done. Thus, we are not
anywhere near Glory of the Olive, but 10 or 11 mottos before.
and Muslim ambassadors meeting
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: Pope and Muslim ambassadors meeting
I continue to read your site with great interest. Just two
decades back the threat from the Soviet Union seemed unending.
Here we are in a new era, with our attention on Islamic
fanaticism. Our prophet, Nostradamus foresaw the end of Soviet
communism. He also revealed the dangers of Islam, though
The recent Islamic
rage over the Pope's speech has prompted an offer to meet with
Islamic ambassadors in the Pope's summer residence in Castel
Gandolfo on September 25th.
with key words and phrases in our prophet's quatrains may reveal
a possible connection with the impending meeting.
Quarrels and new schisms by the red hats,
When one will have been elected, the Sabine:
They will produce great sophisms against him,
And Rome will be injured by those of Alba.
Pope Benedict is recently elected. The Islamics are producing
great arguments, quarrels and schisms over the Pope's remarks.
The Pope's summer residence is in Castel Gandolfo. The modern
city is built on the ancient site of ALBA Longo, Capital of the
The prophecies as so vague as to make it difficult to interpret
fulfillment in advance. It just seems the Pope's stay at the
summer residence may be indicated as a time of danger, and thus
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I am familiar with this quatrain and have a somewhat different
view of it.
Actually, when I read line 2, it very much looks like Nostradamus
is saying that the "elected" pope will be a
"Sabine": the Sabines were an Italian tribe from
northwestern Italy, one of the various tribes that helped settle
the Roman empire.
At first glance, I suppose this might not sound particularly
revelatory. Most popes were Italian until Pope John Paul II.
However, the prophecy specifies what part of Italy he will come
from, and, what is more important, helps identify one of a small
number of popes remaining until the complete collapse of the
Church another 150 years from now. With popes from Poland (JPII,
now deceased), Germany (Benedict XVI), and possibly two from
France, I think Nostradamus wanted us to know that what is
described in the quatrain will happen when an Italian is once
I also believe that the last line is about an Albanian invasion.
It makes sence that a joint Russian-Islamic invasion of Europe
might wish to use European Muslims that are in close proximity to
Italy to aid in its conquest. Actually what Islamic nation is
closest to Italy than ALBANIA? The Albanians, as well as the
Kosovar, Presevar, and other Albanians from Serbia and Macedonia,
are largely Muslim. Nostradamus also mentions Dalmatia in another
quatrain as a base of operations, which is an oblast of Croatia
in the Adriatic Sea. Apparently missile attacks will be launched
against Rome from Croatia. Who would do that? Right next door to
Croatia is Bosnia, a nation of Bosniak Muslims. The Bosniaks, in
a new Balkans war, may one day overrun Croatia, and prepare it as
a base for Iranian and Arab actions against Italy, whilst the
Albanians from Albania, Serbia, and Macedonia actually launch
attacks inside Italy.
I also do not think Nostradamus would use both Sabine and Alba in
the manner he does if they are to refer to the same thing, unless
a Sabine (NW Italian) pope is injured by his own league (The
Sabines of Alba Longo). That would remove any Islamic element and
simply portend a new schism in the Church when the Holy See is
occupied once again by an Italian.
Having said that, there is still a possibility you may be right
about some sort of diplomatic injury (or real injury) to the
Papacy by Islamics at Castello Gandolfo, formerly Alba Longo
(that is if the ambassadors don't turn down the Pope's invitation
to meet there). However, there still must be division in the
ranks of the Vatican heirarchy first (quarrels, schisms,
sophisms) since the "red hats" are obviously the
cardinals. Thus far, there has been no sign of quarreling amongst
those in the Vatican. And only two days remain until September 25
for such internal discord to be aroused (unless the schism
happens on the same day the Muslims injure Rome).
However, if this does happen, new schisms form, the Vatican sets
to quarelling, and some sort of diplomatic or real injury to the
Papacy occurs at Castello Gandalfo by Islamic ambassadors or
radicals, I will still consider Nostradamus to be in error about
line 2, because that is definitely a line identifying the
nationality of one of the latter days popes as a Sabinois
Also, another quatrain says this same pope who is plagued by the
Albanois will only reign seven months and
then die tragically. Benedict XVI has reigned sixteen months,
more than twice as long.
Still, like the Mabus quatrain, which I believe has been
partially fulfilled twice already, this year and in 2001, the
quatrain you present could likewise be partially fulfilled in two
days time (injurious discussions at Castello Gandolfo, but no
schisms amongst the cardinals, or everything in the quatrain
being fulfilled but the pope's true nationality).
But the day will come when it shall be entirely fulfilled in the
worst possible way: an Albanian attack on Italy during the
European phase of WW3 (or WW4) when the Church is schismatic and
an Italian from NW Italy is pope.
This trouble with Benedict XVI and the Muslims is a perplexing
one for those of us who understand prophecy. The outbreak of
animosity of Muslims against the power centre of Christianity,
Rome, is not surprising. It is to be expected according to most
relevent prophecies. Unfortunately, none of the specific
prophecies at our perusal conforms to anything that is being
planned or is happening. Perhaps, in a convoluted way, 5.46, the
quatrain you have presented, may be one that will, at least
But many people believe the Pope is going to be murdered. I have
to confess that I find that an irresistable conclusion as well.
As it is, according to my base 7 system, there is incredible
danger to the pope between August and November 2006, and that
prediction has been on my site for quite a while. Yet, he is not
going to be visiting a city in Turkey noted for being watered by
two rivers (neither Istanbul nor Ankara are watered by TWO
rivers). Nor is he to be hiking up any holy mountains at Ephesus
in search of a notable corkwood cross at the top (ruins of the
temple of Diana he may find though). If he is killed at Castello
Gandolfo on September 25 that could be applied to the quatrain of
a great pope who dies in Rome (which most believe was Pope John
Paul II). The problem with it having been JPII or it being
Benedict XVI is that there also must be a naked eye comet visible
near Ursa Minor. There was none last year, and despite all the
hype concerning Comet 73P (Schwassmann-Wachmann) this year, it
was not seen by hardly anyone save through a telescope or, in
some lucky cases, binoculars. 2002's Comet Ikeya-Zhang was much
brighter than 73P, and for a much longer period of time, yet a
lot of people, including myself, couldn't even see that.
As things stand for the average person, the last truly visible
naked eye comets remain Hale-Bopp in 1997 and Hyakutake in 1996.
For the Aussies and New Zealanders it was Linear A2 in 2001.
Maybe the problem is that everyone is rushing things. Just
because the Muslim world has become outraged at the pope and some
Al Qaeda have discussed killing him doesn't mean death for the
pope is imminent. It may take six months, a year, or longer
before the right conditions occur that will also conform to
Nevertheless, in the meantime, I will be interested in what
happens on Monday.
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: Benedict in Istanbul
Benedict is due to visit Istanbul later this year. He is of
course now hated in the muslim world for his reference in a
speech that Islam is spread by violence.
Istanbul is in a part of Turkey renowned for its roses, rose oil
Istanbul is also at the confluence of the Bosphorous connecting
it to the Black Sea and the Dardanelles that connect the Sea of
Mamara to the Aegean. True these are not rivers but they have the
imagery of rivers.
If you have been to Istanbul there are old Byzantine ruins
scattered around including the old city walls - indeed a half
Perhaps Benedict should cancel his trip to Istanbul.
* * * * *
The moment this all began, I wondered about the Pope's trip to
Turkey and if it in any way could be linked with Quatrain 2.97 or
with the Third Secret of Fatima.
By the way, he is also supposed to visit two other places during
his visit: Ankara and the ancient city of Ephesus. You might know
something about either of these beyond anything I found out. If
so, let me know.
Unfortunately, when Nostradamus says the city will be
"watered by two rivers" I doubt he could have mistook
the Dardanelles strait or the Black Sea for rivers.
Truly, Istanbul is only "watered" (and divided) by the
Nostradamus had an excellent model for a city watered by two
rivers in his own country: Paris. Also, Rome itself is watered by
two rivers. Technically, with all my warnings about Baghdad, it
is not really watered by two rivers either. Only the Tigris runs
through the city. However, because of Iraq's renown as the
"land between two rivers," I felt that one should
consider the potential double meaning in the last line in that
Yes, Nostradamus could have made a mistake in perception, but I
don't think so.
As for the ruins, I thought of those too. But there is more: in
this city of ruins the pope steps over the corpses of many slain
people and blesses them. Istanbul is not currently littered with
bodies on its streets. War has not touched it, although terrorism
Perhaps he will visit Istanbul at a time when terrorists strike
in the heart of the city?
But then, he would also be on his way to a steep, holy mountain
after passing through Istanbul, one with a notable cross at the
top, and I don't know what that would be. Not Ephesus.
It really feels as though we are forcing both the Nostradamus
quatrain and the Third Secret of Fatima to get them to correspond
to Istanbul. But perhaps one of them might work with Ankara? Are
there two rivers watering that city?
The two rivers do not have to be large and famous, they need only
be rivers to qualify.
Of course, Pope John Paul II visited Turkey and nothing happened
(but he was not under a threat of death either).
Perhaps the reason this is just not working out is because,
perhaps, the Vatican will call off the pope's trip.
There are other quatrains regarding the Vatican and Turkey, but
they portend danger for an important cardinal being taken hostage
and about a delegation of cardinals running into a crisis enroute
to Turkey. Nothing really about the pope, though.
The Pope need not travel to Turkey to die, in any event. He could
die or be killed right in Rome for that matter, especially if
there is a comet visible.
At the moment, however, I think it would be simply common sence,
under the current circumstances, if the Pope called off the trip
to Turkey himself.
Benedict the Last Pope?
----- Original Message
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Correction
i saw on your second home page today, that islamic extremists
want to punish the pope for his muslim views. About a week ago i
watched another one of the history channel's programs about
prophecies. You know the prophecy of 111 popes. Well it seems
that the 111th pope might be the last or the second to last pope:
Talking about Joseph Ratzinger the new pope, St Malachy as we all
know (!), prophesied that he is the penultimate pope:
No 111 - Gloria Olivae (The Glory Of The Olive).
According to Malachy, after Ratzinger (now known as Benedict
XVI), there is only supposed to be one more Pope before 'The
terrible judge will judge his people' - or Armageddon, doomsday,
judgement day etc.
Well, the way the world is going, this isn't too hard to believe
unfortunately. However, there is much evidence that St Malachy
only actually predicted 111 Popes in total. It's possible the
112th Pope was bolted on after the 1820 publication of Malachy's
writings. (This could be for any number of reasons....)
If this is true, then the new German Pope Ratzinger could well be
the last Pope before all these fun and games are over."
It fits the description of the 3 secret of fatima. Mike i think
this is indeed the last pope. After all if the vision of the 111
popes and the the third secret of fatima, share a common end to
the circumstances and demise of the catholic church. It is a part
of the coming of the antichrist to world war table. And i think
we both agree that the 3rd anitcrist as a person will emerge from
the middle east. This antichrist, will drive out the forces (us
and colonial) of the midle east. invade eastern europe, until the
violence has spread in europe, the war will not begin. But Russia
allied with Iran are on a page further than the world is, when it
comes to planning. When the misery of the war spreads to the
balkans, then this will be the confontation between the east and
the west, yet once again. World war 3 will emerge from where
world war 2 ended. What's for sure is that all world wars have
started in europe, coinicidence? Can you imagine the religious
effect on christian catholics if the catholic , vatican is
destroyed. What i think, is that the vatican and the catholic
church already know that the beggining of the end is near for
them. This is the start of a new millenium, a new age, a new
religion, and there is no room for the superstitions, lies, and
trickery that exists today. This upcoming battle will be in the
nature of good vs evil. If you will the froces of light against
darkness. However angels will not fight the war but we will.
What however may be more important is if there is a conspiracy in
the vatican, and even above those men. I do not doubt for a
second that the vatican is intermingled with the world elite.
They have been infact for a long while. The religion of the
catholic itself is a blasphemy to more orthodox believers. What I
am saying is that, the catholic vaticans probably know that they
don't have much time left. I am sure they are very afraid of the
St Malachy prophecy as well. I also believed that the end of the
present age (before ww3) is carefully calculated by the world
elite. I believe the wars today, economic faults, and diseases
are all enginnered as a part of a plan to elimnate 'useless'
lives. In fact, they must have been engineered for a long time.
What is most important however, is that the Elite know about
Nibiru, and it's impending encounter with earth. I believe these
rulers of our planet if you want to call them, have already
prepared and are waiting for the planet's arrival. This is the
presentation of the big show. Not only will nature punish us but
the power greedy rulers we have on earth today will help with the
elimination of human lives.
time will tell
But one thing's for sure. History repeats itself.
* * * * *
Unfortunately, by embracing Malachy's list of 111, and concluding
that Benedict XVI is indeed the 111th and last for all time, you
ignore all of Nostradamus' prophecies concerning some 10 future
popes (for future is what they must be since they bear no
resemblance to past popes).
If Benedict is killed or dies, and there are no more popes, then
what happens to the "great Pontiff" who is supposed to
support the "great Monarch" from France after World War
III? This is not merely a prophecy found in Nostradamus ... it
appears in hundreds, maybe thousands, of prophecies from Europe
since the time of Merlin (and even before that).
What happens to the Sabine pope (northwestern Italy) who must die
in Rome during Albanian attacks on Italy? What happens to the
pope "from ancient France" who wins an election against
a candidate from Spain (or Central or South America)? I won't
list the others, you know you can find them all discussed on
Nostradamus NOW Archives 1 at http://www.newprophecy.net/now2.htm.
I mentioned before that the Catholic Church included ten
antipopes in Malachy's list of popes. Malachy didn't authorise
this to be done. He couldn't since he was dead. The Church took
it upon itself to include the antipopes in his list of 111.
Why would they do such a thing? Really it is hypocritical.
On the one hand the Catholic Church brands ten men as
"antipopes" because they do not recognise them as
legitimate popes. That is what is means to be an antipope. It
does not mean that antipopes are "evil popes," it
simply means they are men with a smaller following than the
actual reigning pope claiming to be pope without the authority to
do so. These antipopes often reign at the same time as legitimate
popes or reign temporarily during a schism in the Church (again
So, again, on the one hand the Catholic Church brands ten men
after Malachy's death as "antipopes" because they do
not recognise them as legitimate popes.
Then, on the other hand, they add these ten illegitimate
antipopes to Malachy's list of 111 popes.
Why? Certainly not because Malachy wanted it that way.
I think they did it to assure that by the end of the millenium,
by the year 2000, there would be close to 111 popes having
reigned. The Catholic Church has always insisted that the end of
the world would come as early as the second half of the 20th
Century or at least by 2000.
Think about that, and think about all the Nostradamus prophecies
of popes who have not yet reigned, including the "great
Pontiff" that many many prophets also have predicted will
follow World War III.
If I have a choice, I'll go with Nostradamus over Malachy.
Yes, it is true: as far as we and 2/3 of humanity are concerned,
World War III and the catastrophes that Nibiru will bring may as
well be the end of the world.
However, no European prophet declares World War III will be
Armageddon. Most prophets of the last 1800 years say there will
be less people on the planet and that they will rebuild and that
a new Church age will begin. The true antichrist (the beast of
Revelation), Armageddon, and the Second Coming are still farther
away in the future. It is why if you read any prophecy about
World War III (or invasion of Europe by the East), that in the
aftermath you have 1) a period of mob rule, continued war, and
revolution in Spain, France, and Italy 2) the rise to power of
the great Monarch and great Pontiff, both from France 3) and
finally a great peace where the Church is once again in its
Most prophecies "trail off" there, but some continue on
for a considerable length before the Antichrist (beast) arrives
Don't confuse Nostradamus' "third antichrist" with the
Bible's "the beast," they are not the same thing.
Where is the "third antichrist" in the Bible? Although
he is not called "the third antichrist", he is the same
person who appears as the conqueror on a white horse whose entire
purpose is to conquer and destroy at the beginning of the Book of
Revelation (the first oif the four horsemen, which is to say the
first seal). He is also the Persian conqueror that appears at the
beginning of Daniel's long prophecy of the future in his Chapter
11. He is also discussed in Daniel's Chapter 8.
I know it is difficult to believe, but the world will become a
much worse place AND a much better place than it is now ... and
that switchover between the two will continue for another 236
years finally ending the way the Bible says it shall.
Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Pope Benedict's remarks
Do you think the Pope's comment about Islam that he made in
Germany is the begginning of the fufillment of Quatrain 2.97.
* * * * *
It may or may not be.
I checked out Turkey, where he is to visit November 28-December
1, and neither Istanbul, Ankara, nor ancient Ephesus (the three
cities he will be visiting) are "watered by two rivers"
or even situated between two rivers.
Turkey will one day be a deadly place for a major cardinal, and
for a group of cardinals as well, according to Nostradamus, but
no mention of the Pope being in danger there.
The time of the Rose (if late spring and early summer are
intended) is virtually over as we approach autumn on September
21. By the time of the late November trip, it will definitely be
long past the time of the Rose. However, if "The Rose"
means a resurgent interest in or focus on the late Princess
Diana, moreover an actual worshipping of Diana, that is an event
that could still happen at anytime, even late November.
I would also point out that the Pope will be visiting ancient
Ephesus whilst in Turkey, which contain the ruins of the Temple
of Diana, the pagan goddess (and I believe a day will come when
the ancient goddess Diana and the late princess Diana will become
regarded as the same personage).
Otherwise, I would say Quatrain 2.97 can only apply to the
current Pope if he visits a city watered by two rivers during
late spring or early summer of 2007 if Muslim hatred for him is
still running high.
Could the Pope be killed in Turkey even if Nostradamus didn't
My base 7 prediction shows danger of death for the current pope
during August-October 2006 on page 2006 (Part Two). Late November
2006 is close enough to that vector.
And, of course, he need not go to Turkey for it to happen during
the current August-October 2006 period. It could happen right in
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: Some Research
Dear Mr. Mcclellan,
I enjoy your site for a few years. I'm interested in a lot of
prophecy and stuff like that. I have some comments with reserch I
do for at least for myself.
I think Quatrain
2.97 is about what happened already with Pius VI and Napolean.
beware of your approaching,
Of the city where two rivers water,
Your blood you will come to spit in that place,
Both you and yours when blooms the Rose.
Also on your
theory that St. Malachy didn't recognize John Paul I. If St.
Malachy talked about the anti-popes (I know you don't think
Malachy talked about them either) he forgot about anti-pope
innocent III (1179-1180). He had a short reign, so St. Malachy
could have skipped him just as much as John Paul I.
I read in one of
the emails you talked about not knowing of a nephew of a pope.
Well I read that the true Pope Innocent III was nephew of Pope
Clement III, Innocent III had a nephew, Pope Gregory IX.
Gregory's nephew, Pope Alexander IV. I understand that some of
these popes were before Nostradamus, but I still found it
Thanks and keep it
* * * * *
The big problem I have with the idea that the death of Pius at
Valence in 1799 pertains to Quatrain 2.97 is the wording in line
4. I know it may sound like a small thing, but it yields larger
questions. The wording "both you and yours."
Pius was the ONLY one to die bleeding from the mouth (from
gastric enteritis). Where are the others who would likewise die
with him in the same fashion? It does say "Both you and
yours." "Yours" suggests that other people will be
with the pope and meet the same fate. Pius died alone.
Now, this little phrase yields a larger picture when we look at
the prophecy in The Third Secret of Fatima. There we are
presented with a scenario where the Pope AND his fellow clergymen
and clergywomen (bishops, priests, nuns, etc) are all murdered
under a hail of bullets by soldiers.
Contrary to what was said when the secret was released in 2000,
this prophecy has never been fulfilled. Pope John Paul II was the
only one wounded (and not killed). No other priests, bishops,
nuns, officers, etc who were with him were also shot.
So, we have two similar prophecies, neither of which were
fulfilled to the letter. Only Pius died at Valence, no one else
(as indicated by "both you and yours"). Only John Paul
II was shot, no one else (as indicated by mention in the Third
Secret of many others following along with the Pope also being
Thanks for the additional information. I didn't know about the
extra antipope nor the nephews. But I must ask of these nephews:
were any murdered?? This is what Nostradamus says shall happen:
that the nephew of "the great Pontiff" will be clubbed
to death by a band of cardinals led by one who will become a
Intruiging stuff, eh?
Thanks for visiting my site and for your support.
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Air assault
I am just watching
about the 3 secrets of Fatima, and wonder how are they so
accurate and detailed, about the 2nd W.W.
The 3 rd secret
however is no secret at all. It's obvius that it's about the last
vatican pope. You already know that. However, i think that you
doubt yourself wrongly if you dismiss the Anti-popes who lived in
in the 13th 14th century period. They are the ones included in
the prophecy! Why?
It's the only
logical explanation. If God, indeed gave an accurate vision to
this prophecy, he must have foreseen all of time (which includes
the wicked, heretic, and autonomous popes through the centuries.
This is the whole point of the popes.. Just because the pope is
corrupted by evil doesn't mean that he is not to be counted in
the prophecy, indeed, we are hinted that today, At the End Times,
the last Pope will fall under the power of evil, it's what the
prophecy is all about!
God has shortened the second Coming pf Christ and his Angels. It
has already started! You're not going to see Jesus or any angels
descend from the skies however. Jesus and his angels, have
already descended into the bodies of the faithful, and they will
be the ones, who will start the new world, after Satan is
Churches today gather the sheep to preach on them when Jesus will
return??? This is rubbish! Jesus has always been with us, he is
with the faithful, he is the Holy Spirit of God. Not a magical
fairie, or Alien or an Angel as people would like to think . No,
only kids who watch the disney channel can believe in this.
The truth is much more shocking then we realize, it's all coming
together now. Now is not the time to stop feel sorry for
ourselves. It is at this time precisely where we have to stop,
think, and use the greatest power of the Universe, love, for it,
and it it's beings, and remain faithful with the true power of
Christ within. Only then will the war stop, and evil be defeated.
* * * * *
It is not over concerns such as "evil" that I have put
forth the theory that the antipopes might not have been
considered in Malachy's vision.
For one thing, understand that all an "antipope"
actually is is a person who is claiming the title of pope, but is
not elected or recognised by the majority of the College of
Cardinals. He is not "evil." Indeed, he may be a very
good man, a better person, perhaps, than the real pope. He is
simply ruling without the authority to do so. Often these
antipopes reigned at the same time as the legitimate pope.
Malachy foresaw an orderly procession of 112 popes, one man
following after the other. But how could this be when there were
two, even three, men ruling at the same time? The Catholic Church
is responsible for crediting these antipopes as part of the
succession, not Malachy. If you look at a list of the popes at
the time there were so many antipopes, you will see it was one
hell of a mess!
Anyway, at the risk of repeating myself, it is the Catholic
Church that has declared that those men who had no legitimate
right to reign as pope were "antipopes." So I must ask,
why the same Catholic Church that does not recognise the
authority of these men allowed each of them to appear in
Malachy's list of future popes? It is a contradiction.
My best guess is that the Church knew that if they did not
include them, there would be too many popes on the list left yet
to reign by the end of the millennium ... and the Church was
pushing the idea that the end of the millennium would be the time
of the last pope and the Second Coming of Christ.
Yet many early Catholic prophecies contradict this idea as well.
St Methodius was one who prophesied the great war that so many
later prophets would call the "last war" (what we call
World War III, and are likely in at this time). However, in his
prophecy, after the great war there would be a peace and the
Church would reign supreme once again, only to be followed by
another greater war and another Roman emperor (Western leader)
ushering in an even larger and greater peace and Church age,
followed by a war resulting from the opening of the Gates of
North, then a war of Antichrists fighting one another and killing
many Christians, followed by the final abomination of the last
Antichrist (who St John called "the beast").
Nor was St Methodius alone in this early Christian belief about
events after the beginning of the millennium, and I would add
that Nostradamus definitely concurs with this same chronology as
evidenced in his Epistle to Henry II. I would also say it
resembles the events outlined in Daniel's prophecy that is all of
his Chapter 11 and the opening verses of his Chapter 12. In later
years, after the year 1000 AD, this prophecy of St Methodius and
others that shared his view was SEVERELY EDITED or ABRIDGED by
"inspired Catholic prophets" so as to portray the great
war of the millennium 2000 as the "last war," followed
by a seven year peace under a "great monarch" who,
dying, will give up his crown in Jerusalem, and is then
immediately followed by Antichrist (note that it is a great
monarch of France or Germany who reigns seven years, and not the
beast whose length of reign is never given in these revised
I therefore hold most, but not all, of the Catholic prophecies
after 1000 AD highly suspect. The prophecies of St Hildegard, for
example, appear to be divinely inspired: there are none other
like her prophecies about the Antichrist. I also find the 20th
Century European prophets, although somewhat derivative of others
since 1000, are too specific and unique to be ignored. You may
note that these three in particular, Alois Irlmaier, Erna
Steiglitz, and the Seer of Waldviertel (who is still living), see
the coming world war as a truly terrible and horrific war, but
certainly not Armageddon because they also foresee a HUMAN peace
afterwards and a Church age, not the Second Coming of Christ.
But I see from your letter that I have strayed somewhat by
discussing the last two paragraphs. The whole point I was trying
to make with this discussion is that the Catholic Church has been
manipulating divinely insipired prophecy so as to make it fit
their view of when end times events shall occur ... and the
conventional view since 1000 AD has been that they would begin
with the year 2000 AD.
Other prophets do not agree with that view, and neither do I.
Date: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:34 PM
Hi again Kris,
Just one correction:
In the last paragraph of my email I just sent, I said the
Catholic Church was manipulating when "end times" would
begin. I meant to say, they were manipulating when the seven-year
"Tribulation" or the very final seven years of the end
times would begin (which for them has been 2000 AD or not long
after or before).
As for the "end times" themselves I consider that to
have the same meaning as "the latter days": a final age
of mankind that may be many decades or even a few centuries long.
I believe we are either now in these latter days or shall begin
them when Iran's Ahmadinejad declares war (he is the conqueror
whose sole purpose is to go forth and conquer who appears as the
first seal in the Book of Revelation). When the sixth seal is
opened, and everyone on earth must behold God's face on the day
of His Wrath (I hold that shall be a single day when Planet X
shall take on the appearance of God's face), then everyone will
know the latter days are truly begun.
Yet, if you continue to read on after the sixth seal's opening,
you can tell immediately that there is some distance to travel
before the world reaches the "age of the seventh
angel": that being the seventh trumpet that sounds after the
seventh seal is opened. And all of this precedes by many years
the appearance of the woman in Revelation 12, the war in heaven
when Satan and his fallen angels are cast upon the earth (they
have freedom to move about in space yet), the two witnesses and
their rapture, the great earthquake in the Middle East, and the
rise of the beast and false prophet.
dream symbolizing Pope John Paul II
----- Original Message
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:43 AM
Subject: My dream symbolizing Pope John Paul II
It is the one year anniversary of Pope John Paul's death and I am
thinking of him. I had a dream 7 days before he was shot in 1981.
My dreams are only symbols and I always get them wrong but after
the event occurs, It is as plain as a bell.
I walked into a public restroom and saw a television. It said
Special Report and then there was a picture of the word John and
then Paul and then a gun. I awoke as I do when it is a dream of
things to come. The feeling is like when someone you love has
just died, very unpleasant.
I called my husband crying and told him that I was very upset
because John Lennon has just died and now Paul is going to be
shot too. One week later as I watched TV there was a Special
Bulletin. They said Pope John Paul has just been shot. I felt so
shocked. Now my dream made perfect sense.
But why did I have to dream it?
* * * * *
Good question. I know how you feel.
I had all kinds of premonitions, indications from one Nostradamus
quatrain, and a system of determining future events based on the
number 7, all of which were leading me to the inescapable
conclusion that Princess Diana would die, possibly murdered by
someone who was French, in August 1997. I didn't know the exact
day, but I knew the month and year.
And it happened ... at a time when I was powerless to do anything
about it. I couldn't share my fears with anyone, there was no one
to share them with. No time for a book. No computer. No
experience yet on the Internet. No way to know how to get my
concerns conveyed to her.
Now I have a website ... but even when I am right about something
important, it doesn't seem to change anything. And I run into
more inaccurate predictions now that I am online than I did when
no one knew who the hell I was or what I was doing.
And why did I know so much about what would happen to Diana when
I could do nothing about it?
I was in a similar situation, I guess.
Secret of Fatima
----- Original Message
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: Third Secret of Fatima
I'm just a few pages into your website and have been reading
about the Third Secret of Fatima and your speculation that the
pope/bishops/religious group will be walking through a city
partially destroyed by war.
The translation of what Sister Lucia wrote is:
Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at
the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of
a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father
passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with
halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the
souls of the corpses he met on his way; "
What if the punctuation in the translation is wrong? Punctuated
differently it would read: Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious
going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big
Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark.
Before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city
half in ruins and half trembling. With halting step, afflicted
with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he
met on his way.
(This way of punctuating it seemed right to me as who "half
trembles"? You either are trembling or you aren't.)
This then would seem to suggest a city ruined by earthquake that
was still experiencing aftershocks.
Perhaps a large earthquake that killed so many that there were
still dead in the streets when the Pope felt compelled to
visit....or.....the Pope and the others are already IN the city
when the earthquake hits.....
Just thoughts. What do you think?
* * * * *
It is possible, but that would require that the soldiers who kill
the pope and his "bishops, priests, men and women
religious" are in the city just by coincidence when the
Also, note that a "big city half in ruins" probably has
not been attacked by a nuclear weapon, unless it is a metropolis
the size of New York or Los Angeles (which by description of the
holy mountain and cathedral with cross at top, it cannot be).
Also, the Pope and his entourage would be committing suicide
walking into a area with lethally-high doses of radiation. Thus,
the attack on the city was conventional, possibly half ruined by
something like Fuel Air Explosives.
Under those circumstances, invading soldiers may very well be in
the city, taking control of the undestroyed portion, rounding up
survivors as prisoners of war, and preparing the way for
occupation forces that would eventually rebuild the city.
The thing is, the likeliest identity of this city is Avignon in
France, based on the peculiar match of the hill called Le Rocher
des Doms and the Cathedral Notre Dame des Doms at top. It is the
best match I have seen so far to the holy mountain and Cross.
And southern France, including Avignon, will be under military
attack when a pope is in hiding there according to Nostradamus,
2017 and 2024
----- Original Message
From: David Lynch
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Eclipse 2017 and 2024
The past few years have lead me down a path of discovery.
On that journey, for some reason or another, I have created many
peaces of artwork trying to express the vision that has beseiged
Below is a link to a NASA website that shows two eclipses that
cross in the heart of America.. Putting great stress on the New
I have implimented the image in an art form that I call Montaj..
I have created over three terabytes of images and art trying to
tell the story that echoes within my mind...
Would you search the work of Nostradamous for the name KnoWell?
I have been using the term Quad Train to teach flow in my work..
Thank you for your time,
David Noel Lynch
On June 19th 1977, I had a serious car accident in which I had a
death experiance... 7 has great significance to me as well..
KnoWell, I AM, 3K
* * * * *
Hello Mr Lynch,
Thank you for the links.
The following quatrain may be of interest to you:
The King of Blois in Avignon reigns,
For another time the people bloodthirsty.
Beside the Rhone his walls he will build,
Fifth of his name and last before Noel.
I'm not sure if this is what you are
looking for, but it does have your name, Noel (KnoWell). The
"walls" could be montages. It may be a coded message
not only for bloodthirst, but for someone dying of thirst in line
1 (not a vinegar [vineyard] for a king BeLowUs or BellowUs).
I, too, was in a serious car crash in December 1977. 21 years
later, I fell down a hill and had multiple abrasions.
7 years later, yesterday, I just recovered from the most horrible
case of food poisoning (or else flu) I have ever had. It hit me
on Thursday, a day before Christmas Eve.
I know all too well, that base 7 works.
PS If you are
the film director, I truly enjoy your films. I also like Sheryl
Lee ... alot.
PS 2024 sounds about right for the solar warning before what
sounds like the burning of the Whore of Babylon in 2025. Sherlock
says that will happen in December 2025.
33% of all land mass will be incinerated by the Antichrist: both
Americas and Australia. That will result in 66.6 percent of the
earth being left for habitation. His entire logic and reign will
be mathematical (man emulating God).
Yes, I see from your first collage you see something along those
lines. I won't pretend I understand it all.
Diames may be the Church of Diana? Yes, another click and I see
the image of the Madonna, the Eternal feminine personified during
the last 2000 years. Time for a new eternal feminine. Nostradamus
says Diana worship will come with a happy paganism.
----- Original Message
From: David Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: Eclipse 2017 and 2024
For another time the
Anytime of war.
The King of Blois in
Benedict XVI Reigns in Avignon
Beside the Rhone his
walls he will build,
The Rhone River begins high in the Swiss Alps. It winds across
Switzerland, goes through Lake Geneva, enters France and after
curving through the foothills of the western Alps turns south
toward the sea. For over 100 miles, the river follows the valley
to finally go through Avignon in Provence, which in one period of
history was a papal residence.
Fifth of his name and
last before Noel.
1) James Lynch 2) Patrick Lynch 3) Charles Joesph Lynch 4)Charles
Joesph Lynch Jr 5) Charles Joesph Lynch III
David Noel Lynch last of the James Lynch branch. All family
members having girls.
Enter Nolle or KnoWell
Could 8:38 be a last days for the Pope message?
Nope not the
same David Lynch
* * * * *
Sorry about the cryptic layer of meaning I sent along about this
quatrain. Based on your own rather cryptic "KnoWell, I AM,
3K" I thought that was what you might want to hear.
My actual interpretation of Q8.38 is apocalyptic in the Biblical
Line one: "the
King of Blois" is the beast of Revelation, the Final
Antichrist. His reign in Avignon alludes to his overthrow of the
final pope (who shall take refuge there) and the casting down of
Line two: yet again, the people will be bloodthirsty as they were
during the French Reign of Terror and several revolutions yet to
come. The three previous times: 1792-93, 2025, and 2150. The
bloodlust this time will be directed towards Christians. This
will seem like yet "another time" but it will be for
the last time.
Line three: the Rhone is indeed the river you mention. The walls
(murs) may be actual walls or they can also mean military
Line four: "Fifth of his name" links to another
quatrain where Nostradamus calls the Final Antichrist or beast
"a fifth and powerful Hercules."
Noel is actually
rendered "the Noel": the Second Coming of Christ. The
"king of Blois" shall be "the last" emperor
of the West (the beast, in other words) before the Second Coming
I do not believe this quatrain will be fulfilled until around the
date given by Nostradamus in his Epistle to Henry II and also in
several quatrains with astrological datings as AD 2242 or 2243.
Quite some time away.
----- Original Message
From: David Lynch
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Eclipse 2017 and 2024
You are most helpful in this.
How does the vision of Malachy fit into the time table. With
Gloria Olivae potentially Benedict XVI. Only Peter Roman away
from the pope's fall?
I have used my technique of Montaj to capture Century VIII verse
Used the name Nolle as a web link.
A peace of the "alexio" Montaj...
What if for just a moment, Nostradamus was talking of me?
The King, Lee Roy, a popular southern US name.
Bloys, below US, from the Southern US, Atlanta..
I can explain, but I need to get some rest.. I have been making
Montaj all night
Thus far, I have written a story that tears at the mind..
I created this Christ Mas day 2005.
* * * * *
Some time ago the Catholic Church declared that there may be an
indeterminate number of popes between Glory of the Olive and
Peter the Roman. I'm not sure of the reasoning, but it has
something to do with the way Petrus Romanus is worded compared to
the wording of each of the 112 mottos.
Also, to quote from one web site: "Those popes who reigned between Malachy's time
and 1590 are described with great accuracy. After 1590, the
descriptions become obscure. In many cases devotees of the
prophecy have been unable to explain how a particular description
could refer to the pope to which it corresponds. Many post-1590
descriptions simply make no sense."
Some authorities have gone so far as to declare Malachy's list of
popes a Vatican hoax since it was not "discovered" in
the archives until the 16th Century and yet was supposedly
written in the 12th Century. None of Malachy's biographers ever
have mentioned him making such a prophecy.
If Malachy's prophecy is authentic, I have nevertheless concluded
that at least some of the antipopes might not have been included
in his list.
For an example of the latter idea,
note that Pope Benedict XVI sailed up the Rhine to Cologne in
August and preached to the people from a cruise ship. This is
more in keeping with the motto "Pastor and Mariner"
which was applied to Pope John XXIII (1958-1963). It never really
fit Pope John XXIII all that well. It fits Benedict much better.
Also note that many of the efforts to apply "Labours of the
Sun" to Pope John Paul II since 1978 seemed forced, save for
the solar eclipse that allegedly occurred at his birth (not in
Poland, as it turns out, but in the southern hemisphere). It
wasn't until his funeral during another solar eclipse that this
rather weak idea gained strength, with solar eclipses at both
ends of his life.
Nevertheless, Benedict XVI has done more sailing as "Pastor
and Mariner" than the man the motto was applied to, who did
none. He is scheduled to sail to Turkey some time in 2006 where
he may preach again from the ship.
If Benedict XVI is the real "Pastor and Mariner," then
there are four more popes until Glory of the Olive, and five
until Peter of Rome.
PS I really doubt Nostradamus was talking about you. You are a
gifted artist and intellectual, but still one of many. I wouldn't
try to take things farther than that. We have a hard enough time
trying to find famous people in the quatrains that one would
think he should have foreseen ... and most of them are just not
there. Royalty and church leaders made up about 95% of what
Nostradamus considered as "celebrity."
----- Original Message
From: David Lynch
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:07 AM
Subject: Fwd: "Gloria Olivae" -- the Glory of the Olive
You are brilliant. Please pardon me as I wish not to confuse.
Below is a letter that went out to what I think is John Hogue..
No response from him yet. There is a lot to digest...
Included is a letter to the current pope. Regarding how with one
hand I will change the course of history for eternity.
Most importantly in the below memo, just after I slap the pope, I
explain how in November of 2004, I made a prediction at the
Immaculate Conception Shrine in Atlanta to Mont Seinor Henry
Gracz regarding a great event in December of 2004.
My fingers were crossed that I was wrong.. Being right, put me
here typing this to you.
Started with the astronomical signs.
Like the three bright comets positions on my birthday May 16th
I was born in 1960 Atlanta Georgia, the year the Fatima letter
was to be read.
This peace was made around the time of prediction November 2004..
I made this peace to mark the passing of the Great Wave event.
I have changed the world. I know it. The world just does not know
The KnoWell symbol being the name of GOD, I A M, told me that I
am on to something unique.
What Newton did for computation with the Intergral symbol, I will
do for comprehention with the KnoWell symbol... If Science can
get over the word, GOD..
I consider myself dead. This much power shift always has a patsy
to take the fall. The Catholic church would not recognise a
Christ, even if it hit them on their bell tower.
September 16th 2003, I awakened. Took me 26 years to understand
what I was told in my death experiance of June 19th 1977.
I suggest that we meet..Face to Face. A couple of days. You can
look in my eyes, listen to my stories.. Like that of my death
Check out my Blogs on MySpace.
ADMK: Adam, David,
Thus Nostradamus should have seen me...
Nolle being me, then Peter Roman was Born 2005.12.25
Benedict XVI was at that time notified of my presence.
Nolle not being me, Love the Moment, only one you got.
Black Pope Theory might be correct..
----- Original Message
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: Your Black Pope Theory might be correct..
Your Black Pope Theory might be correct..
If possible I found some clues?
When the new Pope was announced, the name announced was not
Benedictus but Benedicti. Benedicti might refer to benectine
order, also known as: "black monks".
here is some facts about benectine order:
"it cannot be
denied that the monks often failed to live up to the monastic
ideal and sometimes even fell short of the Christian and moral
standards. There were failures and scandals in Benedictine
history, just as there were declensions from the right path
outside the cloister, for monks are, after all, but men."
There is no crown in Benedictus Pope's "Coat of Arms"!!
This could mean symbolically, that current pope is somehow
(There is also Vatican's official explanation for symbolism in
p.s. Are they "forced to drink water poisoned by
sulfur" in that China city "Harbin" near Russian
border??? from your web page now3.htm:
"Garden of the
world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains:
It will be seized and plunged into a boiling cauldron,
Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur."
Surely the city is "seized" and "boiling"
(Cauldron is also "situation of great distress" and
comes from French language). Harbin is near mountaneous area, and
"hollow mountains" could mean just mountains which
haves a lot of caves.
* * * * *
One thing I could not help but notice in the Pope's coat-of-arms
was the likeness of the Ethiopian (or whatever African national)
wearing a crown. With the thick red lips, this is the way blacks
were portrayed in cartoons 100 years ago. Thus, there is a black
monarch wearing a crown on the shield! Having this "royal
black" in his coat-of-arms would reinforce the idea that XVI
Benedicti is indeed "the black pope."
As for the unholy part, I'm not sure.
I would add, that I am not even sure the Vatican is trying to
promote him as Glory of the Olive anymore. He recently sailed up
the Rhine in Germany and met members of his flock along the
banks. This image is strange and very powerful ... this would
make him much more "Pastor and Mariner" than John XXIII
That, in turn, may strengthen my argument that the antipopes, or
at least most of them, were not counted as "popes" in
the list of Malachy!
I see that Harbin is a very large city of 3.8 million people ...
and very modern with high rise condos and skyscrapers, etc. So
the "hollow mountains" can apply here to the city
buildings, just as with Tokyo, Sydney, LA, or New York. Also,
Harbin is very "new" city because it was founded in
1898: 340 years after Nostradamus wrote the quatrain you quoted.
Not only that, but it has a bit of Europe mixed into the culture,
religion, and architecture. So, it is tempting to think perhaps
the quatrain applies.
However, it is not "Garden of the world" or near any
place considered "garden of the world." Indeed, it is
instead called "China's Ice Capital."
Also, benzene is the chemical involved, not sulphur. Indeed, we
cannot find sulphur as either a component or byproduct of
It's a tough call, all the same. I have read that a second
chemical explosion has now occurred which will poison more cities
in the region, not to mention East Russia. Maybe sulphur this
No one ever considered the possibility that this quatrain might
be fulfilled by a manmade and accidental catastrophe like a
chemical spill or explosion. Everyone has always thought in terms
of nuclear weapons if manmade or volcanic eruptions/ asteroid
impacts if "natural."
I won't rule it out that this quatrain might apply, but
"Garden of the world" still best applies to New Jersey,
the Garden State, right next to New York City ... and benzene is
not sulphur by a long shot.
But I will concede that "new cities" need not all be in
the "New World" -- they can also be anywhere in the
Pacific Rim of Asia.
Perhaps this is a repetitive quatrain, and Harbin is the first
city to fulfill the prophecy, or function as archetype for
something far more apocalyptic down the road.
----- Original Message
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Your Black Pope Theory might be correct..
Thanks for your analysis, I can see that your analysis skills are
It's funny that I didn't realize that the black king in the
Pope's coat-of-arms really was black! You don't miss a thing ...
thank you for that =)
I totally agree with you. Benedictus/Benedicti seems to be
anti-pope, not to forget his very hard-line conservative
In order to avoid misunderstandings, Pope's offical name really
is Benedictus II but the announced name (at the time when Pope
was elected) was Benedicti. Benedicti is latin name, and so is
Benedictus. Benedictus is "modern latin" name for the
That's why I researched meaning for Benedicti, and I found this
Benedictian order, which was not established by Benedictus I
hundreds of years ago (which is common belief). (But the name of
the order comes from the name of pope "Benedictus I")
And the order still exists.. but it has a lot of different sects
with different names. All I know that these are not organized
i.e. the sects don't have top-level organization. At least one of
the sects locates in Germany (which is homeland of the Benedictus
II, as you know).
p.s. I have to drop my Harbin argument, and search for more
supportive information. Sometimes
some events do seem to resemble each other.
I was surfing your site and I noticed that of course the pope's
name is not Benedictus II but Benedictus XVI or something..
I am terribly sorry!!! my mistake.
here is example of this other common error:
brotherhood known as the Order of St. Benedict was established by
St. Benedict in the early part of the sixth century at Subiaco,
Italy, whence it spread over western Europe"
"St. Benedict did
not, strictly speaking, found an order;"
The Order of St. Benedict is in U.S,, too. The Order of St.
Benedict of New Jersey was incorporated in 1868.
But the St. Benedict indeed was Benedict I.
----- Original Message
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:37 AM
Subject: my prophecy
I would like to share with you my prophecy. I had personal
visions of Our Blessed Mother Mary. She made known to me the
reason why the true third secret has continually been hidden and
replaced with a false third secret by the Vatican. Her true
message in Fatima, Our Blessed Mother told me, actually states
Her Divinity. It is a Dogma of Faith of the Catholic Church that
must be proclaimed by the Pope prior to the Second Coming of Our
God and Saviour Jesus Christ. It actually states that Mary is
God. Mary is the Soul of the Holy Spirit.
For Mary Who Is Indeed God.
MY GOD AND MY ALL, MAY I BE THE LEAST OF ALL THY SERVANTS, SO
FROM THE GREATEST TO THE LEAST, THOU SHALL BE GREATEST ADORED.
the Papal Successions
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: About the Papal Successions
I really find your material engrossing. However, I find a few
discrepancies that I would like to have explained.
1. You contend that the late Pope John Paul II is not the 110th
Pope on St. Malachy's list, and Pope Benedict XVI is not the
111th (you hold that they are 100 and 101, respectively);
however, you still apply to them the characteristics that, on the
list of Malachy, belong to Popes not yet installed. It is my
contention that St. Malachy listed all Popes he saw, regardless
of legitimacy, and foretold that there would be 112 men to hold
the title of "Pope" at one time or another after Pope
Celestine II. If he indeed was gifted enough to predict every
Pope, it must be considered that he also foresaw Pope John Paul
I, and called him "of the half moon" for his early
demise, just like the demise of the moon before the sun on the
"day" of the Second Coming. Either the late Pope is
neither "of the half moon" nor "labor of the
sun," or he is indeed the 110th Pope as listed in the list
of Malachy. Just because one of the symbols of Islam is that of a
crescent moon does not mean that a Pope "of the half
moon" had anything great to do with that religion, which,
technically speaking, is a heresy to the Church. Note that the
men listed by Malachy are listed by characteristic - association
with people, of whose symbols include a crescent moon (not even a
half moon) is less a characteristic than an early demise, as in
the demise of the moon before the breaking of day, or the early
demise of the half moon before the labors of the sun..
2. From what I understand, the Third Secret of Fatima largely
deals with apostasy within the Church (I myself am a Roman
Catholic as well as a history/conspiracy/prophecy enthusiast) and
the spiritual demise of a great number of those who call
themselves of the Church. I am not sure what else it pertains to,
but many people speculate that they indeed relate to the end
times - however, the Church has never officially released the
document itself for public consumption and at one point in the
past even prohibited it from being published at all. Many
Catholics also feel that the apostasy referred to in the Third
Secret have something to do with the Second Vatican Council,
since the Virgin Mary gave instructions to release the Third
Secret to the public no later than 1960 (and Vatican II occured
shortly after that time, and the reigning Pope refused to release
the Third Secret, as his predecessor was about to do). And though
the Catholic Church has indeed had the lion's share of faults,
atrocities, errors, and the like throughout history, Catholicism
remains the One True Faith, but it is clear that the Church
itself, while an instrument of God, is corrupted by some of the
many people who would adhere to it. It is not wayward in the
sense that a pubescent teenager is wayward, but rather it must be
viewed as corrupted in certain sectors that must be cleansed and
renewed in the Catholic faith.
3. About the "two suns": sometime in the 1980's (I
cannot recall the exact year) on a September 20 (I know the date
because it is the anniversary of the canonization of the Saints
of Korea - I am Korean, by the way), the late Pope canonized some
10,000 martyrs from Korea (in all honesty, there are more who
were killed for the Faith, but accounts were not accurate and
thus their names are known only to God and Heaven now). As soon
as this was done (I know this only through second- and third-hand
accounts), a halo (or perhaps a cross-like halo) appeared in the
sky where the canonization was done, clearly visible against the
daylight. Could this perhaps be the "second sun" that
you refer to, not the result of a thermonuclear blast?
4. I think you place excessive and unnecessary emphasis on both
Princess Diana and Jacques Chirac. First of all, Jacques Chirac
is too old even now to complete all of the tasks that he
allegedly has before him until 2016 or so. Princess Diana was
indeed a celebrity, but her time has passed. The only major
female in history (and not just modern) associated with the rose
and apparitions is the Virgin Mary, and it may be about her that
the Prophecy of the Rose refers to. In modern apparitions the
Virgin Mary (or BVM for Blessed Virgin Mary, as I will abbreviate
her name) has been reported to have said that she groomed the
late Pope John Paul II for greatness. You also mention that 'Pope
John Paul II was the first pope to make his working devotion to
the "woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her
feet,"' and 'a woman persecuted by the forces of Satan who
is about to give birth to a man-child to reign as the "Son
of Man."' Both of these describe the BVM, and both are
stated in the Bible itself.
5. I noted in your Base 7 summary (i.e. the page where you set
forth the basic parameters of your predictions and some basic
examples) that you had for the year 1998 that Pope John Paul II
or a member of the Vatican dies. It was interesting at the least
to see that the late Pope passed away 7 years after that (this
year, 2005, is 7 years following 1998, in which another member of
the Vatican died).
6. About George W. Bush: seeing as he is as inaccessible as ever
(he was never one to be freely accessible or accountable to the
common people), it is quite unlikely that he is in any
significant danger of being assassinated while President of the
U.S.A. If anything, he may be killed afterwards for starting the
entire thing in Iraq, but currently he is too hard to reach. Not
only that, there must be people around him who are aware of
certain ideas and concepts (perhaps yours included) and are being
very careful to protect the head of the American state.
7. I must note that the Third Secret is also purported contain
prophecy relating to the unification of all religions under the
banner of the Church at the time of the Second Coming as well as
that a great chastisement will be brought upon the earth in that
time. The BVM is reported to have said that Russia will be either
the instrument of that chastisement, or, if enough are faithful
and pray, Russia will instead be the instrument of the salvation
of humanity. Most of your research has a great air of fatalism
(predestination) about it, but I must say that the concept of
"free will" is still true, and that just because things
have been foreseen vaguely enough by Nostradamus or some other
seer (all of whom, I feel, place an incorrect and excessive
emphasis on the role of the West in the end times) to fit a great
many happenings does not mean they all have to happen that way. I
believe that God sees all futures, not just one of them, and thus
He knows all that is possible. I don't think that God, when
giving this gift of prophecy to said seers (if He indeed gave it
to them at all, and they didn't come up with this themselves),
was showing them the one and only future, but only the worst
possible so that the seers would become warnings for the world.
And while the futures they saw were thus far moderately accurate,
there is no guarantee that this will remain so. So long as
mankind has freedom of will, thought, and action, no prophecy is
Small minds discuss people,
Average minds discuss events;
Great minds discuss ideas.
* * *
First of all, there is reasoning behind point one. If one does
not value the prophecies of Nostradamus, then any argument of
mine based on Nostradamus against the list of St. Malachy is
going to appear weak. Of course, since the name of my website is
Nostradamus and the New Prophecy Almanacs, one should expect that
my views on prophecy are going to be weighted in favour of
Nostradamus, and if this does not please anyone because he or she
may feel Nostradamus was a vague charlatan, then such people
really should be visiting some prophecy website that they feel
has more credibility.
Secondly, I do not assert ("contend") anything
regarding the popes as being for certain. I begin with these
words: "I believe it is quite possible that John Paul the
First was completely overlooked by Malachy because ..." This
is not the beginning of an empirical statement, it is what we
call a "theory."
If you can find, as I have, at least ten popes described by
Nostradamus and, as I have, find that they match no pope who has
ever existed, you might consider concluding that he was either in
error or that these ten popes still remain for the future.
If it should turn out to be the latter, how do we go about
explaining Malachy's list being ten popes short?? This is called
a proposition (in the form of question). It is not a statement.
Of course, if you don't believe in the veracity of Nostradamus'
prophecies, this proposition is not going to matter much.
In any event, a description of each of the extra ten popes of
Nostradamus appears on http://www.newprophecy.net/now1.htm.
I may be wrong about the meaning of the "half-moon."
But consider the events that formed the backdrop for both Malachy
and Nostradamus: the Crusades were a reality in Malachy's time
and a major concern for the Church, for Nostradamus the
"last crusade" was recent history that many Europeans
feared would recur again in their lifetimes. It is not unlikely
both placed a great value on the moon as a symbol of Islam. I
should point out that in some other prophecies from that period
in history, the moon alone (as in the expression "those of
the moon" or "from the Land of Moon"), with no
reference to which phase the moon is in, was often associated
with the Moslems.
Anyway, there is no shame, I feel, in there ever being a pope who
is kindly to the Muslim people ... or who acts as mediator in
conflicts and misunderstandings that arise between Christianity
and Islam so as to avoid terrorism (from either side) or warfare.
I daresay such a pope, and it could be this one, is bound to
appear sooner or later.
Returning to Malachy and how his mottos are applied. Note that
"Pastor and Mariner" was applied to Pope John XXIII. I
would say rather loosely applied due to the fact that he was
Patriarch of Venice.
Yet, only last month, Benedict XVI made his first international
trip by returning to his native land and sailing the Rhine to
preach to young people from the bow of a cruise ship. What are we
to think if he does this more and more often?? Does that not at
least set us back from "Glory of the Olive" to
"Pastor and Mariner"?
Speaking of moons and crescent moons being linked with Islam, it
is also being reported that Pope Benedict will be visiting Turkey
in 2006. Nostradamus prophesied that the Vatican would open up
close ties with Turkey, but that a cardinal would be abducted
there and held hostage. He also mentions a delegation of
cardinals traveling to Turkey to bring the law of Christianity to
Lastly, there is a prophecy of a "great pope" who is
kidnapped near Turkey and who dies in captivity in another
country farther east.
You can be sure I'll be bringing these prophecies up fairly soon
... and for obvious reasons.
Regarding the Third Secret of Fatima. I have heard your view
expressed before by others. It was the official view of the
Church as relayed to the media by Cardinal Soldana, along with
the consensus that the attack on "the Bishop in White"
was the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.
I don't know if this is the actual "Third Secret of
Fatima" either and the real secret is still locked away. But
if it is the real Third Secret -- or a fragment of it that was
allowed out -- it is a very real and concrete vision of future
events, surrounded by the wildest metaphors ever concocted. If
you wish to dote on all the metaphors that is fine. I like them
too since I am a poet. But the kernal at the heart of this vision
still is literally about the murderous attack upon a pope, and
upon those making the journey with him, "by a group of
soldiers" ... in a city that is half-destroyed and littered
I still maintain this is NOT about Pope John Paul II in 1981. The
details are much too different from what happened in Rome (not a
half-destroyed city with corpses littering the streets) the day
he (and he alone) was shot (by a single man, Ali Agca, and not a
group of soldiers).
Regarding the two suns. Yes, I suppose it could be an airy-fairy
halo. But the quatrain says more than that: it says a great star
will burn for seven days and set the dogs a-howling all night. It
also links the burning star and the double sun with a
"cloud." I really do think Nostradamus had a more
ominous portent in mind when he wrote that stanza.
According to many prophecies regarding the "great
Monarch," most which say he will be French, the man will be
"old." In fact he dies of natural causes or old age
during a visit to Jerusalem seven years after being crowned.
Nostradamus' "Chiren" figure is one of the few
instances where a prophet (in this case a major prophet) has
dared apply a name to the "great Monarch."
Yes, one of the contenders for "Chiren," French
President Jacques Chirac, is getting old. Yet, not so old that he
couldn't easily live until the year 2016 ... or longer than that.
The generic life expectancy (for those who do not smoke or drink
alcohol often and excessively), so say the medical profession, is
now set at 85 to 87 years. It is risk-taking behaviour, they all
agree, that is causing the overall life expectancy in the United
States to still be around the age of 73 to 76. What the life
expectancy is in France, I don't know, but I doubt it is too much
different ... for the well-to-do, at least.
Of course, I often say that Chiren will either be Chirac or a
future Henry (Henri [current sp.], Henric, Henryc [old sp.]). If
you go to http://www.newprophecy.net/part2emailarchives.htm you will see a discussion I
had concerning who the actual royal French contenders to the
throne are if the monarchy is ever revived. One of these is Henri
Philippe Pierre Marie d'Orléans who is now 72.
Not all Christians agree with you OR with me about who the woman
in Revelation 12 is. I could be wrong ... and so could you.
Diana is made relevent because she appears in so many Nostradamus
quatrains, including one that mentions a church of Diana and one
of her sons being kidnapped. This mention of her having a son, a
royal prince, who is abducted and held for ransom makes it quite
clear that this is not the old goddess Diana religion from pagan
He also mentions the apparition of a woman who is buried or
interred in consecrated fashion (i.e. a tomb, a cemetery, ect)
rising from her resting place and speaking to the people. The
very fact that she does this, according to the prophecy, causes
fighting and bloodshed between believers (the ones who witness
it) and unbelievers (the ones who don't witness it or, and here I
am guessing, those who declare the woman's apparition is a
deception by Satan).
Mary appears just about everywhere, but I've never heard of her
appariton rising from a place of burial in modern times and, in
so doing, sparking off a war of religion.
This woman has to be somebody else.
Well, maybe she's not Diana ... but right now that makes the most
sense to me. I suppose in the 1950s some Argentines thought it
might be Evita Peron.
Point 5 is more an observation on your part ... which I also find
to be of interest.
Understand that the base 7 system raises the issue of specific
dangerous trends from the past (and in the rarer instances I find
them, positive trends) and seeks to apply these to certain years.
Whilst there is no guarantee that these dangerous situations will
arise at or near the specified times, there is a higher than
normal probability that they will. Indeed, roughly three out of
four times (or greater) these projections will occur or will come
nerve-wrackingly close. Still, they are not prophecies in the
real sense, which only come about through visions (sleeping or
awake). It is more a theory on how Time generally works and,
logically, if one knows how Time works, one will also know what
to expect may happen when a cycle of Time is renewed.
Your last two points are not really so much points of discrepancy
on my part as simply you projecting opinions.
Regarding Bush: if the Tecumseh Curse (or Shawnee Curse as it is
also called), a malediction that has caused the death of every
president elected in a year ending in zero from 1840 through
1960, did indeed end with Ronald Reagan, elected in 1980,
surviving an assassination attempt in 1981, then there is no
special reason to expect anything to happen to Bush.
But there are reasons to suspect that this curse still has teeth
for a person elected in 2000.
The reason may be found in astrology. Just by coincidence, each
zero election year since 1840 also witnessed a Venus-Jupiter
conjunction that was in the earth element. Don't ask me to
explain what being in the earth element means, because I am not
an astrologer. Suffice it to say that for some reason this proved
to be very deadly for presidents Harrison, Lincoln, Garfield,
McKinley, Harding, Roosevelt, and Kennedy. When Reagan was
elected, however, the conjunction moved into what is called the
air element. And as we know, he survived an assassination attempt
in March 1981. Thus, it would appear that Venus and Jupiter in
air somehow mitigated the old Indian curse. Indeed, if one
believes in astrology, there may be no curse at all ... only the
influence of these two planets every twenty years. In 2000, the
Jupiter-Venus conjunction moved back into the earth element for
the last time. Thus, the implications are that the man elected in
2000 will die in office, if not in his first term, then in his
second. In the case of FDR it was technically his fourth term,
but it was still the second term following the 1940 election.
From 2020 onwards for the next 600 years this conjunction will be
in the air element again. Presumably the curse will be
permanently lifted at that time.
I would add that if Bush survives his second term, in the highly
unlikely event that Al Gore should run for office in 2008 and
win, he might be at
risk since he won the popular vote in 2000.
Aside from the Tecumseh Curse, there will always be the base 7
trend. Again, a dangerous trend is not a guarantee that anything
bad will happen, but the risk is very great nonetheless.
This year, 2005, is aligned with the death of President John F.
Kennedy in November 1963.
I find it remarkable someone made a serious attempt to kill Bush
in Tibilisi, Georgia this year with a hand grenade. Add to that
the fact that Bush is now suffering the worst score with the
public than any US president in memory, save Lyndon Johnson. He
is hounded by the victims of Katrina and the growing anti-Iraq
war, anti-government movement led by Cindy Sheehan.
As for "fatalism" -- it is true that I present things
in a "worst-case scenario" fashion. Read any prophecy
and you will see worse than that because many of the prophets
believed in the predestination of the events revealed to them.
Personally, if you have read my replies to emails in the past
(not sure about what's on the current email forums), posts I have
made on Prophetic Messenger Service board, and messages I have
placed on my website from time to time (some are still to be
found on some pages), I emphasise that future events can be
thwarted, changed, postponed, mitigated by making other choices,
or, if in the hands of God, can still be mitigated or postponed
through repentance or prayer.
However, if I presented my base 7 findings and dream
premonitions, and the prophecies of others, as highly unlikely to
be realised in their worst exteme, and instructed people not to
worry about them, who do I answer to if the worst does happen?
Downplaying a very grave prophecy that ends up coming true can be
more disastrous than witnessing the utter failure of a
There were people from India who were quite confused, angry, and
displeased with me when a major quake struck the country in
January 2001. Why? Not because I was off by four months, but
because I downplayed my India quake prediction after it failed to
occur in September 2000. I rationalised that bad flooding India
experienced in August and September 2000 must have been the
"real deal" and that the earthquake would likely not
happen. Then it happened ... one of the worst quakes to ever
So now I tow the line, holding on until the year following a
prediction has passed.
Every time someone falls into apathy because their worst fears
suddenly seem unlikely, or one believes falsely that a prediction
has been thwarted, if they are a person who can do some good,
they fail themselves and they fail the world.
Nostradamus vague? I agree many of his quatrains seem that way.
But as I am and have been trying to impress on everyone for a
number of years now, it is not his quatrains that have led me to
my understanding of the world view of Nostradamus. It is his
Epistle to Henry II, a lengthy prophecy written in narrative
form, written in chronological sequence, and written with much
less symbolism than in the quatrains, that opened my eyes to what
Nostradamus really believed about our future.
After reading this narrative, one discovers that an older prophet
wrote a similar narrative of future events: the Old Testament
prophet Daniel in his 11th Chapter. One can read both and find a
number of points that are common.
Reading Epistle to Henry II also helps one understand some of the
quatrains. Again, there are quatrains that have points that are
similar to prophecy seen in Daniel's 8th and 11th chapters.
As for the role of the West, it is indeed great, as is the role
of the east. Again, I point to Daniel Chapter 8 and 11, which are
about future events and NOT about Alexander the Great.
If you believe they are about Alexander the Great, please go
directly to http://www.newprophecy.net/emailarchives.htm and read the series of
email exchanges between myself and Todd. He too, like many, once
thought that these Daniel prophecies were fulfilled in the past.
However, the more research he does into history, the more he has
discovered that Daniel 8 and 11 do NOT match historical reality.
As the archangel Gabriel warns: "Now I am come to make thee
understand what shall befall thy people in THE LATTER DAYS: for
yet the vision is for many days."
I will probably take that series of exchanges and place it in
some fashion on my website permanently.
Why? You'd be surprised how many times people will take me to
task over something I have already successfully argued out with
someone else ... and sometimes more than with just one person.
Almost anything you can imagine arguing with me about I have
already answered to, often more than once, over the years.
And it does get tiring constantly re-defending my position over
and over again because new people didn't happen to be around the
last time their great idea for a debate was breeched by someone
In summation, however, I would say that those who make
predictions or draw conclusions based on their personal belief in
prophecy are always going to be in an uneviable and indefencible
position. One really cannot defend prophecy or one's own personal
interpretation or 'spin' of it. Prophecy, like religion, falls
under the auspices of "faith" -- and faith is something
that can neither be empirically proven or disproved. Such debate,
therefore, will always be fruitless between the believer and the
sceptic, much less the cynic, who believes the predictor or
believer in prophecy is doing so for less than honourable
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: About the Papal Successions
I thank you profusely for replying to my email. Looking at your
comments (and the fact that while I was presenting some queries,
I was also making statements and opinions that have yet to be
proven true or false), I see that there is indeed some strong
basis for the theories you propose. I myself am not a student of
classical mythology or of the classics, so I am at somewhat of a
disadvantage when it comes to Nostradamus making references to
I failed to notice earlier that you do indeed claim on your
website that foreseen events can and have been thwarted. And, I
suppose, to my rather one-sided religious bent, you could have
summed up a counter-argument with the phrase "God works in
mysterious ways," which is what I was thinking when I read
I suppose my point of view is somewhat tainted because I do not
have your ability to see the potential future in nightmares (that
is indeed what some of these visions are), and I do agree with
you on the fact that it is better to take a doomsday warning
seriously than to downplay it and have that scenario happen.
I also agree that there is nothing wrong with a Pope (or Popes)
who gets along with other denominations of faith as well (they
are people too), though my somewhat one-sided interpretations of
theology will tend to make me lie on technicalities when I claim
that one religion is technically a heresy and that another is the
One True Faith.
I still don't see how Jacques Chirac could do all those things he
(or a successor) is supposed to do by 2016. I think he's just too
old. Perhaps his democratic successor may be the one the
prophecies speak of, i.e. "Chiren" would then mean
"of Chirac" or in his style of government, political
leanings, and the like. However, I suppose you could probably
point out to me certain defining characteristics of the Chiren of
the prophecies and their apparent presence in the current
President of France.
I forgot to mention in my statement about the Third Secret that
my sources do indeed indicate that not only does the Third Secret
relate to apostasy within the Church, but it does relate to Popes
(or a Pope) being attacked and killed, fleeing the Vatican, and
the like. But I don't think the part about the Pope was actually
part of the third secret. From what I understand, the apparition
of the BVM at Fatima actually told this to the children there,
and the Third Secret was something else about the end times and
hardship for the Church. Plus, my view is absolutely not that of
the Church. You have failed to notice my comment on the Second
Vatican Council (my view that the apostasy referred to in the
Third Secret had something to do with that Vatican II cannot be
the position of the Church). This means that I agree with you on
the "Bishop in White," and that he has not yet been
killed or attacked, i.e. he has not come into play yet.
Parts of your response (particularly regarding the Third Secret)
seem formulaic, as if you had not bothered to read what I
actually said. I also noted that the Church has yet to release
the actual document on which the Third Secret was written and at
one time prevented its publication. I do not agree with the
Church on its statement regarding the Third Secret, and I do not
agree with the Church that the consecration of Russia (as
requested by the BVM) has been completed. So it is possible that
the Pope to do this has not yet come (and then the late Pope John
Paul II would indeed be 100 on the list of 112, because
supposedly it is the 110th that will have that opportunity). If
this is true, then the late Pope is not "of the moon"
or the "labor of the sun," and Benedict XVI is not the
"olive branch" or also the "labor of the
sun." Yet you continue to relate these titles to them (I
suppose because you are not quite sure whether St. Malachy's list
is being interpreted correctly or not).
It is clear that you do not agree with the sentiment that Pope
John Paul II is the "labor of the sun," particularly in
that he is not, in your view, the 110th/109th (you also suggest
that Pope John Paul I was passed over because his reign was
indeed short) Pope as described in the list of Malachy. Then you
should not refer to him as "labor of the sun," nor
should you refer to him as "of the moon" because he
also does not fit that description. It is confusing when you
suggest that the late Pope is not the 110th but still apply the
descriptors of the 110th to him. He is either the 110th or not
the "labor of the sun" or "of the moon." He
cannot be both (the "labor of the sun"/"of the
moon" and the 100th).
Your point about Diana is well-stated, and I have to say I must
concede on this point because I can't think of anything else. If
Diana does indeed become a saint (though I kind of doubt this in
the near future - perhaps later on, i.e. 10 or so Popes down the
line, at about the 110th or so, perhaps), it is indeed possible
that there will be a church (not an entire religion, but
religious buildings and structures) dedicated to the late
Princess of Wales.
About President Bush: while I am not a fan, and you do have some
very valid points about his presidency, somehow I don't think
President Bush will be caught by the Tecumseh Curse. First of
all, I do not believe that astrology is accurate, especially in
this case, and secondly, while the President does indeed have a
notable presidency (within a year of coming into office, there's
9/11, then there's the current debacle in Iraq, the PATRIOT Act,
the problems and moral/ethical issues being raised in the U.S.
today, Hurricane Katrina, and that's just domestic issues - he
could be a remote reason why the tsunami in South Asia happened)
and perhaps among the lowest of approval ratings, that just does
not mean that he is in significant danger of assassination. I
suppose when it happens I'll know I heard it from you first, but
too many factors play against this. I mentioned the tight
security around the President, as well as the fact that he is
rarely out in public (at least at home - if he is prophesied to
die abroad, I suppose that would be more corrigible). There are a
few other factors, such as the rarity of someone being insane
enough to try to assassinate the President, that play against the
idea that he may succumb to the "curse" or planetary
alignment or whatever. He is just too hard to reach, at least by
conventional means. If someone decided to bomb the place where he
was at (i.e. a rally) and kill a great number of people along
with him, that might be feasible. But a lone, single
assassination - the odds are against it, though it only takes a
stray bullet to actually kill a man, be he President or not.
I generally tend to agree with the vast majority of the things
you say on your site (in particular that Russia has not come out
of communism to embrace democracy - indeed, it is our enduring
mistake that the Russian state has done so - but I disagree with
your suggestion that communism as a political form and ideology
will coexist with others in the future, because it has been
foretold by others that communism will and must die), and I would
again like to thank you profusely for replying coherently. I am
in your debt, that you have been able to explain to me exactly
what you are referring to in your suggestions for the future, and
I am grateful that you have helped me understand my shortcomings
in this field (I am only a student after all, and I cannot - and
would not like to - see the things you and others see and have
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* * *
There are not too many points to address here, but I feel I
should clarify further things I intended say in my last letter
and forgot about. You raise most of those very issues in this
Jacques Chirac or Henri Philippe d'Orleans really do not have to
do all that much ... no more than a president needs to do. Chirac
is currently 72 and will turn 73 in November. Henri Philippe is
the exact same age. This is not too old for a head-of-state.
Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was elected president of the US on
November 5, 1980 and turned 70 on February 6, 1981 -- only seven
weeks before the assassination attempt that seriously injured
him. He left the White House after George Bush Sr was inaugurated
in January 1989, at nearly the age of 78. Reagan brought the
United States armed forces into Lebanon in 1982-84 and again in
the Persian Gulf in 1987 and 1988 during the final year of the
Iran-Iraq war. He also ordered the air strikes against Libya in
1986, and two smaller ones in 1981 and again in 1989 (a few days
before stepping down in lieu of Bush Sr).
Chirac and Henri have another 5 years before either is the age
Reagan was when he left office.
In one quatrain, Nostradamus calls the WW3-era leader of France
"the important old man." This is before he is made into
a monarch or an emperor.
Technically, Chirac or Henri merely has to be
"commander-in-chief" when France takes the lead in an
EU retaliation against the invading Russian and Muslim armies and
liberation of occupied countries. Obviously France won't be
working alone, the UK, Portugal, Belgium, and Germany will also
be involved. And much of the biological and chemical weaponry
they will use will be American-made (even though America will be
largely destroyed by this time). As long as the French-led EU
forces are victorious in the end, as prophesied, and he gives the
orders, Chirac or Henri will be elevated to a higher position.
I would point out that France is scheduled to have the rotating
presidency of the EU between July and December 2008 -- and not
again until sometime in the 2020s. August 2008 is the time I
happened to project for the Russian/Iranian-led invasion of
Europe. And I didn't know that France would have the presidency
in the second half of 2008 at the time I made that projection.
I bring this up because Nostradamus and other prophets suggest
that a French leader will already be head of Europe at the time
of the invasion. Even Daniel calls this person the "king
from out of the west" and describes Europe and its leader as
an "he goat with a notable horn between its eyes, and the
notable horn is the first king."
I would also point out that Chirac, despite some scandals, has
the strongest voice in the EU. Unofficially, he already
personifies the European Union to many people (but not all). On
the diplomatic front or any other form of charm offensive, I
believe he has only one equal: Tony Blair.
Anyway, ten years from now, the argument that Chirac (or Henri)
is too old will doubtlessly be true ... if the prophesied events
of war and post-war coronation have not yet come to pass. But I
feel one cannot write Chirac off between now and November 2012
(when he reaches the age of 80) ... unless he loses power or
retires from office.
The apparent schizophrenia on the Pope page can be best
understood this way (and remember that the page was mostly
revised and new material composed between the death of John Paul
II and a few weeks after the election of Benedict XVI): OK
people, you have a new pope. Maybe he is not the pope you believe
him to be based on your understanding of the prophecy of Malachy.
Here's why. But since it is possible I may be wrong in my theory,
I will continue to refer to him as "Glory of the Olive"
for as long as you continue to regard him as such. Maybe he is,
maybe he isn't -- time will tell. Maybe John Paul the Great was
the solar pope, maybe he wasn't -- time will tell. I offer
prophetic evidence I have uncovered that indicates Malachy could
be right and that he could be wrong. Perhaps after this new pope
Benedict has been in power for a while, we will have a better
idea. But for right now, I submit the following for your
consideration ... and hope for your input!
In other words, this Pope page is a controversy. It is sometimes
the nature of controversies that they will cause confusion. It is
most definitely a page in flux and should not be regarded as
"the final word" by me or "written in stone."
Yet, it must also serve the purpose of warning when or if I
believe this pope, or any pope to follow, is in some sort of
danger. The quatrain 2.97 regarding a pope and his entourage --
all of them -- coughing up blood when visiting a city watered by
two rivers has not yet been fulfilled. It waits in the future ...
or not at all.
After all, this page was originally constructed for Pope John
Paul II back in 1998 because of my overriding concern about him
visiting Iraq ... which he almost did on three occasions, but
ultimately did not. Now that he is dead, it is going to take some
time to "feel out" what this new pope is all about,
where exactly he fits in with prophecy, and the dangers and
obstacles he must overcome.
At some point the warning aspect of this page will supercede the
theories I have laid out regarding Malachy. Technically, the
prophecy of Malachy is secondary to the original mission of this
page anyway, which is to warn.
If some of my responses seemed formulaic or missed points that
you brought up, please understand that yours is not the only
email I have to answer. Your letter was lengthy and required a
detailed response. It took me five hours to write my reply.
Normally I don't have that much time to spend answering emails.
Besides, I have a website to maintain, update, and continue to
Despite the tight security Bush enjoys, as I pointed out in my
last letter, someone managed to lob a live grenade at the podium
he was speaking from in Tibilisi, Georgia. (So you missed some of
my points, too!) Subsequent news reports revealed that this
grenade was not a phony or even a dud. A real dud will never go
off. It was live, but for some reason failed to go off.
Nevertheless, it had to be taken away from where the president
and audience were and detonated. When the man who lobbed the
grenade was arrested, he admitted that he did indeed plan on
killing Bush with the grenade shrapnel.
Had the grenade detonated and Bush merely wounded from shrapnel,
this would have been as big a news story as the attempt on Reagan
in 1981. Because nothing happened, it has been treated as a
non-event. This is a mistake.
There are definitely forces in this world that want the president
dead; but there appears to be a force protecting this president
... for the time being, at least.
As I mentioned, I do not practise astrology. Generally-speaking,
it is a system that is largely flawed, and it is an occult system
which, as a Christian, I cannot trust. Even so, this is not to
say that the motions of the planets NEVER have an auguring
potential. Clearly they must or the system would not have been
I merely pointed out a peculiar planetary conjunction regarding
zero-year elections that has been consistent since the
malediction by the dying Chief Tecumseh was uttered to first be
applied to the election of 1840. I noted a change in this
conjunction in the year 1980 and the resumption of the 1840-1960
status of the conjunction again in 2000 ... for the last time. It
may or may not be relevent, but it is curious.
Regarding communism, for the most part the West has only seen the
evil it can do. In the hands of dictators, communism is a
terrible system of government.
I believe we all got to see the friendly face of communism when
Mikhail Gorbachev was president of the now-defunct USSR. He
arrived too late to save his nation, but not too late to show us
what a friendly Soviet Union could be like. Had the Soviet Union
not fallen into such a frightful state of economic collapse under
the previous short-term leaders of Andropov and Chernenko, the
Russian empire might not have fallen ... and Gorbachev with it. I
still believe communism can work under a Gorbachev-style leader.
If Russia had had more leaders like Gorbachev, instead of
dictators like Stalin, Kruschev, and Breshnev, there never would
have been a Cold War.
Someday we may see this phenomenon again ... perhaps in the CIS
or in China, if we don't go to war. Then the future world will
embrace communism as one more member in its club of ideologies.
You see "reds" (as in revolutionaries) cannot rule
indefinitely. Revolutions are short and bloody, often accompanied
by chaos, lawlessness, and reigns of terror. When Nostradamus
writes of "reds" being included in some future
"Parliament of Europe," he cannot mean revolutionaries.
There remains only communism as the logical meaning of
"reds" ... or something else we do not yet know about.
Personally, I would not wish to live under a communist system ...
even if it is in a Gorbachev-land. But that is because I am
accustomed to living in a republic (incorrectly called a
"democracy"). People grow accustomed to what is
familiar, what is life-long, so who am I to tell someone that
they are living in a sorry state? And when I do ... these people
already know it for themselves.
Anyway, thanks for your kind and thoughtful letter. I am always
glad to discuss things at length ... when I have the time.
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: About the Papal Successions
It's just that I hate being a pawn in all of this. I mean, I'm
not the President of France or of the House of Windsor (my family
is at least 2000 years old and since at least a few decades
before the birth of Christ has been of the nobility in Korea -
until that was eliminated after the Japanese annexation of Korea
in 1910, which oddly enough was 21 years (3 x 7) before your true
start time of WWII in 1931 - but that's the closest I get). If
anything, one of my life goals is to work to a position where I'm
not a pawn - I absolutely detest being pushed around without a
say of my own - it sort of curdles my blood and is perhaps the
one thing I really hate.
Anyway, I thought I'd get that out - it's probably a major reason
why I'm not so fond of end time prophecy (because I'd be a pawn
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