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Chris
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: is the end near.
Date: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:18 AM
Mike,
Hope all is well. I decided to write to say thanks for everything
you have written over the years. I have enjoyed your web site and
wanted to send out a huge thank you. I talk about your web site
often with friends and try to prepare them for the coming
troubles ahead. They think I'm crazy or seem not to care. I was
wondering about quatrain (x.49) and with the recent Nuclear
disaster in Japan if this might apply to that region. Seems like
Eastern Japan could soon break off and fall into the ocean. Its
being reported the quake sent Japan sliding 19 or so feet East.
Seeing how radiation is spreading could it poison all the fresh
water of that area and cause folks to drink the water. Quatrain (x.49)
makes this point. I just see Japan more as a (garden) then
anything related to the US. I was just also wondering what other
signs should I look to in regards to coming troubles? Take Care
Thanks
Chris
* * * * *
Hi Chris,
Unfortunately, things could be better for me. I am still dogged
by personal health problems and physical pains (including gout),
and having to be the sole care giver to my at times demanding and
critical 78-year-old mother, who has diabetes and severe
arthritis, since my dad died in 2009. The rest of the family will
not help her (or me), so I have no life nor any prospects of
having a life ever again. It is a small miracle I have the time
to do this website and maintain my sanity.
Anyway, I had to consider what you said. But only now is it
possible that Quatrain 10.49 is indeed applicable to Japan,
because as of yesterday there reports that, not only the milk and
spinich, but the WATER too, are poisoned by radiation released
from the nuclear power plants. Thus, Japanese are now drinking
the foul waters, although not sulphurous waters. Although Japan
is an old country, today's Tokyo would seem a "new city"
to Nostradamus, I agree. Yes, Japan is known for its gardens, and
no doubt the affected region between the coast and Tokyo would
apply. And if "the Vat" does not apply to the tub or
container inside a nuclear power plant, I do not know what does.
It is too strange a word to apply to the ocean. Then again, if
eastern Japan does break off and fall into the ocean, there is
the ocean acting as a great vat of water, I suppose.
Still, I am concerned about two other "new cities."
There is a nuclear power plant called Indian Point Center near
NYC. If there was a meltdown there, New Yorkers would be drinking
the poisonous waters. Also, ther are two located near San
Francisco. So, if "new city" means a city in the "new
world" there may be even worse fulfillment awaiting in the
future. I guess we have to wait and see how many Japanese have
drunk the water and gotten poisoned by radiation.
There are many signs to look for yet ... I still am waiting for
the Garabandal scenario to play out ("two stars crashing
together"). Technically Planet X cannot do its worst until
2013 if the stars collide this year. Even if Nibiru begins
actually passing Earth in December 2012, I believe it will be a
long tortured passage, not completing itself until July 2013. The
power to call back Planet X and cancel World War III is always a
possibility if mankind leaves behind the "jagged path."
One has to wonder why Nostradamus has differing end dates for
Armageddon (2242-43 or 2827) and also suggests possible
termination points leading up to December 2044?
The future is always ours to shape ... and the prophets have seen
this, the wise ones anyway. Merlin, for example, would say "if"
a king did somenthing, then "this" would happen; but if
he did something else, then "that" would happen. He
knew there could be more than one outcome. The Hopi also knew of
various outcomes. I understand this now, so I project as many of
the scenarios based on historical precedents that have potential
for our time as I can.
I would warn, however, that if the current events of 2011 such as
Japan and now Libya continue to gain momentum, we are definitely
headed for a rendezvous with Planet X and World War III in 2012
and 2013.
Thanks for writing again.
Warm regards,
Mike
Syria
* * * * *
Hello Ivan,
Good to see you are following the protests in the Middle East. I
already set up a link several days ago from a CNN report about
the coming Saturday 'day of rage' protests to be held in Damascus
with a photo of a worried Bashar al-Assad. I will add this one
too.
I guess you are thinking what I am: that out of this kind of
turmoil Rifaat al-Assad could take control of Syria. I am even
more certain this will happen if the progress is as the Islamic
prophets believe: that Egypt falls to revolution first (as it is)
before one in Syria. Then the 'Sufyani' takes power away from the
leader of Syria and sets himself up in Damascus as dictator of
nearly all the Arab world. He will have support from Western
nations. The only thing that is out of whack in their prophecy is
that this 'Sufyani' usurper will come to Damascus from Egypt,
whereas Western prophecy says the antichrist will be born of
Syria (Rifaat again).
I have this prophesied event presented and dated for June 2010,
so it is on the 2010 (Part Three) page. If it happens in February
2011, this very month, it will be eight months late. But I should
add that I similarly predicted the death of Hafiz al-Assad for
February 2001 and it happened instead in June 2000, eight months
early. So I have a funny feeling we shall be witnessing a change
in leadership in Syria, and Bashar's possible assassination. As
to whether it will be Rifaat that takes over or an Egyptian
militant remains to be seen.
I should add that I suspect what is happening in Egypt, Tunisia,
etc has actually had secret backing from Europe and the United
States, even though Obama behaves as though he has been
gobsmacked by these developments. But it is the plan of the West,
I believe, to install a super-Arab in the Middle East out of the
chaos of 'revolution' thereby using pan-Arabism to combat against
Iraqi al-Qaeda and the Shi'a al-Sadrists in Iraq, the mullah
regime in Iran, the Afghan Taliban, and al Qaeda everywhere it
has established itself. This will be carried out, with US/Western
backing and military support, by the super-Arab leader, possibly
Rifaat al-Assad, with barbaric and inhuman ruthlessness.
We shall see what happens this month.
Kind regards,
Mike
Zahra
Bahrami
Robert II of
Navarre
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject:
Zahra Bahrami
Date:Sunday, January 30, 2011
Could this be the
Israeli Female Spy (or) Possible 1st "american" woman
executed on live television in the West?
* * * * *
Hello Robert,
Our perception of whether an event meets at least the major
points (let alone the finer points) of a prediction depends,
unfortunately, on how it is played in the media and then, months
or years later, by those who will classify it as an historical
event or no (for example, on the Internet at least, will an event
eventually make it to Wikipedia or some other authoritative
documentation?). This is not always a good thing because
sometimes large events can be made to look small or insignificant.
As it is, since many reported events can easily be experienced
subjectively, public reaction to them will differ from person to
person.
In this case ... Zahra Bahrami was not hanged for being an
Israeli spy, or even for being any kind of a spy. Nor was she the
first American woman hanged in the USA since 1937 (if a Canadian
should be, that will count, although Canada does not have a death
penalty, so that is very unlikely). That takes care of 2011 (Part
Two).
Now, 2011 (Part Three) ... prediction: "Western Female
Hostage Hanged in Iran: Live Tape Released to Television and
Internet."
I would say Ms. Bahrami's execution PARTIALLY fulfills this
prediction, albeit ten months early. Even though she was born an
Iranian and grew up as an Iranian, she became a naturalised Dutch
citizen. That technically makes her a Westerner because she chose
to make the Netherlands her home.
However, she was arrested for participating in the 2009 protests
in Iran and also accused of being a drug smuggler, the latter a
preposterous charge. That makes her Iranian again, however:
deciding to return to Iran and protest. That makes it rather
difficult since the scenario here was that the female hostage who
would be made an example of and would be among a number of
Westerners taken hostage as a group or one after another in quick
succession.
Of course such hostages are often accused falsely as being spies,
and sometimes for selling drugs, but are actually used for
political reasons. However, Ms. Bahrami was not made a bargaining
chip for purposes of negotiation nor made a sacrificial pawn to
intimidate an enemy country; she was an Iranian-Dutch prisoner of
Iran's legal and judicial system, charged with committing "crimes"
against her own native country.
In my prediction scenario, this will be a group Western hostage
drama played out for a number of weeks or months in Iran, with
some of the hostages executed (similar to when Saddam took a
large number of Westerners hostage after invading Kuwait).
However, these hostages could, alternatively, be taken captive
one by one by the Iranians over a similar period of time. A good
example of the kind of "Western" female hostage that
may "be made an example of" might be someone like the
American hiker Sarah Shourd who was taken hostage along with two
others in 2009 and charged with espionage and finally freed in
2010 December after 13 months of captivity. Another example might
be the case of Australian tourist Schapelle Corby who was
arrested in Bali, Indonesia in 2004 and charged with drug
smuggling because she was in possession of a very small amount of
marijuana. Her case was followed by the media for many months and
her plight became a rallying cry for many. I thought she was
finally released, but I have just discovered that she is still
serving hard time for a 20-year term, with a release date of 2024
April, although for good behaviour it appears she might be
released sometime in 2014. Sadly, her mental state is
deteriorating rapidly. She is only 33 and was 27 at the time of
her arrest. Thus, this beautiful young woman that the media has
apparently forgotten, and who I assumed was free for that reason;
for her the drama continues in silence. Because I thought that
she was no longer a prisoner, I used images of her I still had on
my hard drive from 2004 to illustrate the drama of the prediction.
Returning to my prediction, Zahra Bahrami was not executed on
live TV or recordings or graphic photos released to the Western
media. That she was hanged publically does not count; most
hangings in Iran are public anyway. But this was not released for
Western consumption either for a global audience on television or
on the internet (I don't think).
Anyway, you see what I mean about subjectivity: to some people Ms.
Bahrami's execution fulfills my prediction, to others it "sort
of" does, and still others would say it does not at all.
I would have to consider her execution, at this time, as the
potential beginning of a trend: today, a naturalised Western
citizen born and raised in Iran was hanged, tomorrow it may be an
actual Westerner, born and raised in the West. I tend to call
such trends "red alerts," yet there is enough here to
claim a modest "prediction partially fulfilled." The
degree of "partial success" of this prediction may
increase in coming hours, days, or weeks if what happened to her
becomes a "cause" in the West to rally around; if news
media fuels increased awareness of this event on a major scale;
and obviously if graphic photographs or a recording of the
execution is released to the media or dispersed widely on the
Internet.
I see no evidence of this yet, and it seems Ms. Bahrami's plight
and execution pretty much came out of nowhere rather suddenly. Of
course, there may be no protracted media drama for the predicted
Western female, and also male, hostages who may yet fulfill their
respective but same predictions more exactly later this year.
Still, this event may well be a "red alert" for such an
outcome.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Kind regards,
Mike
ME
war coming and removal of Bashar Assad?
Ivan M.
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: ME war coming and removal of Bashar Assad?
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:59 PM
Hi Mike, i hope
you are well.
O
Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is
mine indignation.
I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the
people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil,
and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the
streets.
Isa:10 v 5-6.
http://www.aoreport.com/ao/news-articles/1479-yellow-alert-lebanon-in-crisis
Kind regards......Ivan.
* * * * *
Hi Ivan,
This was brought to my attention a few days ago.
I already had the skeleton of a prediction (title and dating
vector) on 2011 Part Two regarding Civil War in Lebanon occurring
in May 2011. When Hezbollah quit the coalition government, I put
text into prediction and speculated that perhaps civil war in
Lebanon could spread to Syria, unseating Bashar al-Assad,
allowing pro-Rifaat cells in Lebanon and Syria to install Rifaat
al-Assad in his place.
I will be watching this over the coming weeks and months,
hopefully (I have to have hernia surgery a few days from now on
Friday, January 21).
Kind regards to you,
Mike
Goddess
Britannia & Britney Spears
Israell
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Subject: Goddess Britannia & Britney Spears
Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:20 AM
Dear Mike,
How are you? Happy new year 2011!
Can you believe it? I barely can! The return of Britney Spears is
just fantastic! It's divine! Her new single, Hold It Against Me,
released last Monday, reached the number one in 17 countries on
iTunes in less than 3 days!!!
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/listen_to_the_real_britney_spears_WJfjP1wefMA2wUJUpORSpI
It already broke the record of the most spinned song on radio
stations in America. Many celebs shared their passion for the
song.
Miley Cyrus said: "Oh Em Gee! Just got the new Britney
Spears song on iTunes hold it against me! It is my new jam!
Obsessed! Can’t quit dancing on set! Go check it!" Mike,
that song is unique, extremely melodic and it totally possessed
me. Brit's vocals are strong and I'm in love with the lyrics.
One Tweet that caught my attention was the one of that woman, @ItsSheilaBitch,
that tweeted: "OMGodney", to which Britney replied that
she was crying happy tears! She was touched by the amazing
response she got from all her fans.
Several of her fans, Mike, now call her: "Godney!" I
just can't believe her legendary status that just can't die. She's
a true legend, just like Elvis Presley & Madonna.
Another thing that caught my attention is the fact there is a
Goddess named Britannia. She is seen holding a spear in her hand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia
Some believe there is a strong link between Goddess Britannia
that holds a spear & Britney Spears.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message939943/pg1
According to the site contactmusic.com, Britney once confessed to
having an alter-ego called Britannia.
"This
alter ego takes over when I am on stage. She is really wild and
daring and a much more impulsive performer than I am. Her name is
Britannia. When I am her I feel I can take on the world, normally
I am pretty shy."
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/britney.s-alter.ego
Do you still foresee bad things for Britney or do you think it's
getting better? She's still under two conservatorships (over her
personal affairs and finances) after almost 3 years...
I don't think she's mentally ill. Brit's mom, Lynne Spears,
declared Sam Lutfi, Britney ex-manager, crushed anti-psychotic
pills and mixed them with Britney's food. Sam once admitted to it
on X17online but later denied it.
Sam once claimed he did so in order to "heal Britney's brain"
and, according to him, her psychiatrist agreed to feeding her all
that...
I know Brit was on some pills even before encountering Sam. I
believe it's simply that sh*tload of pills that harmed her more
than anything. She talks normally, speaks eloquently, performs
well and is fully aware of what she does.
It's about time they let her go but I feel they won't so easily 'cause
many of them would no longer benefit (shall I say... profit...)
from her... Maybe Goddess Britannia will help out!
Kindest regards,
Israell
* * * * *
Hi Israell,
It's good to hear that Britney's creativity and popularity is
getting back to normal after a rather dark period. Actually, she
has been in "comeback mode" for a year or two anyway,
hasn't she? It's just that Lady Gaga stole her thunder for a
little while as she came on the scene when Britney was crawling
back to the top.
Anyway, understand this, being emotionally ill or addicted to
drugs, etc, is a thing that will often bring about a young tragic
death at the time the base 7 system is in warning mode for
certain types of celebrities and degree of fame or burnout. We
can see that with the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Anna Nicole,
there were ups and downs all the way through their careers. Even
though Marilyn was fired from the never completed 'Something's
Gotta Give' in 1962, it normally would have only been a temporary
glitch. Her stellar performance in 'The Misfits' would have
guaranteed later roles as the 1960s moved further into that kind
of realism in film. At 36 she looked better and sexier than she
ever looked in her 20s. But 1962 was that kind of year for
someone, especially someone with blonde hair, of her great fame
to die tragically at a young age. Seven years earlier, 1956,
blonde-haired James Dean died at the height of his three-movie
career with the promise of many more great films in the future
had he lived.
Fame and success is no guarantee against the trend that now
threatens another female icon this year in August or September
2011. Being mentally and emotionally balanced and being healthy
and off drugs and alcohol is also no defence against 'the Grim
Reaper.' In fact, Britney's resurgence of great fame and success
places her in 'the Grim Reaper's' spotlight.
'He' is after a diva, an icon, this year. Madonna almost bought
it a year tardy in 2005 when she fell off that horse. Blonde
actress of television and film, Shelley Long, actually did
attempt suicide Marilyn-style last time around in 2004. Like
Monroe, Long was both a dramatic and a comic actress. I actually
failed to recognise how big a deal it was that she almost died in
2004. She was the one ... and she escaped.
Age is also irrelevant. Some of the women who died on this
timeline were only in their 20s, like blonde actress Sharon Tate
(and Britney Spears is also in her 20s). Most were in their 30s;
but others were in their 40s or 50s. Long was in her 50s.
The base 7 system failed to bring a tragic death to a major
female icon last time around in 2004. 'The Grim Reaper' had to be
satisfied with another male, Christopher Reeve, like he had to
with James Dean (1956) and Sal Mineo and Jack Cassidy (1976). I
am sure his teeth clenched in frustration when Shelley Long
slipped from his grasp, when quick-thinking friends used scissors
to cut Daryl Hannah's scarf from the elevator door as the cage
was going down (she would have died an Isadora Duncan style death
otherwise); and when Charlize Theron recovered from injuries that
included a near broken neck after an accident on the set of Aeon
Flux; etc. Lots of close calls.
The 'Reaper' doesn't like close calls. 'He' tends to return with
a vengeance when 'he' has been cheated. 'He' was cheated in 1990
and look what happened in 1997: 'he' took the greatest female
icon of all time up until now, Princess Diana.
Kate Middleton is in great danger for this reason. No; she doesn't
have to be blonde ... Isadora Duncan was not a blonde. Prince
William, Diana's son (who is blonde), would suffer horribly if
this happened, but it could.
I have just read that Angelina Jolie is suffering from heroin
addiction and is refusing rehab. Do not know how true this is.
She is an icon too, although not a blonde one (but it doesn't
matter sometimes). And then there are 'the usual suspects' (potential
victims actually): Britney Spears, Madonna, Lady Gaga, Kylie
Minogue, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Nicole Kidman, Naomi Watts,
Gwyneth Paltrow, Scarlett Johannson, Michelle Pfieffer, you get
the idea ...
Then again, maybe Agent Reaper will be satisfied with the
sacrifice of Madonna's children, Lourdes and Rocco ... like 'he'
was with Isadora Duncan's two children in 1913 ...
I would never bet that this year will play out badly for any of
the above, but the odds are not good since 2004 failed to deliver
with so many unbelievable close calls ...
Very kind regards,
Mike
Massive
dark object
Helen
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: Massive dark object
Sunday, December 12, 2010 4:16 AM
* * * * *
Thanks
Helen,
I guess by now you know I have posted this report, in part, and
also several new links to other related reports. Nasa is being
coy about admitting there is a Planet X/Nibiru and this may be as
close as we will ever get to an actual admission. I suspect,
though, there may be some sort of speech, possibly by Obama, next
year or in 2012 (depending on whether it is to pass at the end of
2011 or the end of 2012) that will be utterly useless and dumbed
down so as not to panic the masses.
Mike
big
earthquakes
Deborah
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: big earthquakes
Saturday, November 6, 2010 11:01 PM
Michael,
I just wanted to provide some information after noticing your
comment about attention being shifted from a major earthquake in
California to one in the Pacific NW. I'm not a seismologist
either but I have a strong interest in seismology and have been
monitoring that area for some time.
The reason for the shift is because of the Cascadia subduction
zone. While San Andreas can cause ruptures over 7 on the richter
scale, it is a transform fault which means the plates are moving
side by side. Cascadia is north of San Andreas and represents a
remnant plate called Juan de Fuca which is sliding eastward under
the North American plate. Subduction zones do not move the same
way as transform faults and the stress of force building up under
them leads to quakes of over 9 on the richter scale to release
that level of pressure (e.g., Aceh in 2004)
Cascadia's rupture cycles tend to be somewhere between 300 and
500 years - the last time Cascadia had a full release (of approx.
9.x) was in 1700 where it sent a tsunami across the Pacific which
killed about 150 people in Japan. Here are some links which will
give you plenty of information:
http://www.crew.org/PDFs/CREWSubductionZoneSmall.pdf
http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/zones/cascadia/strain-eng.php
http://www.crew.org/index.php
I was also curious about the timing of the "big West Coast
event". Erika Cheetham's interpretation of Nostradamus
suggests that May is when this massive earthquake event will
happen. You mentioned that the Sun twentieth in Taurus would be
April 20th. Personally, I would have interpreted the Sun
twentieth in Taurus to be the 20th day of Taurus which would be
May 9th. I might be completely wrong but thought it was worth
mentioning.
Some other comments I would like to offer just as a "heads
up" kind of thing are:
- the Padang section of Sumatra is the bigggest of the 3
subduction plates off the west coast of Sumatra and, like other
subduction zones, a 7.7 is not sufficient to release the amount
of pent up energy there - there will be more activity along the
Padang section. Here's a link for more information on the plates
west of Sumatra:
http://www.tectonics.caltech.edu/sumatra/index.html
- the Southern San Andreas fault hasn't rupptured since 1857 and
is overdue. Some underground GPS work has been done and shows
that the extent of underground rock displacement there is 11
metres out from the surface. That has led seismologists to deduce
that when SSA does rupture, it will be bigger than a usual quake
for that fault - they are predicting better than 8 on the richter
scale. 11 metres is a massive correction to make and if it goes
all at once, it will be quite devastating!!
Here's a link for more information:
http://www.mydesert.com/article/20101021/NEWS0805/10210318/Researchers-now-say-San-Andreas-could-see-8-1-quake
- volanoes adjoining subduction zones are ffed by the melting
plate that is moving under them. The Philippine plate has been
pushed quite a bit over the last couple months and that plate is
in turn pushing westward into Indonesia's plate - putting
pressure on the subduction zones along Indonesia's south and west
but also providing more material for the many volcanoes along
that arc. I would expect continued activity for Merapi and others
along both the Indonesian archipelago but also the eastern
Philippines. Here a link which is mostly in Indonesian but
includes a list of current activity warning levels for Indonesian
volcanoes:
http://portal.vsi.esdm.go.id/
Thanks for an interesting site!
Cheers,
Deborah
Cairns, Australia
NOTE: I
just noticed there was a question in this email. I will be brief:
I am not an astrologer, although I have some meagre understanding
of the subject. I have seen both dates used by commentators
concerning the "Sun twentieth in Taurus": April 20 and
May 10 (Deborah says May 9). I do not understand how the April 20
dating is arrived at, but it is cited in several books on
Nostradamus, including one of Cheetham's three books where she
uses that date instead of May 10 as in her other two books. I
find April 20 for the US west coast is more in sync with my base
7 dating for a number of major superquakes occurring in April,
including one in Italy, another in England, apparently yet
another in France, and the eruption of the supervolcano at the
Lake Toba caldera in Indonesia.
As to the
last prediction, Toba, we have now seen Merapi, Anak Kraktau, and
Tengger caldera eruptions ... all in Toba country.
From
Croatia
Nikita
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: From Croatia
Date:Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:01 PM
Hello,
Nikita speaking here. I'm going to be short. I've been reading
your page for a long time and am impressed and terrified at the
same time about the riots and all the things that are coming true.
I'm writing this short e-mail just to tell you something. While
it may not be that much significant to the prophecies, keep an
eye out for Croatia. There are already numerous people protesting,
and now, our government has completely provoked the whole nation,
so mass protests may become a reality here as well, and very soon
at that. After all they've done I wouldn't wonder if this grows
into a revolution. I need to make some preparations before crap
hits the fan so this is all from me.
All the best,
Nikita
* * * * *
Hi Nikita,
I am hoping for the best where Croatia (and Bosnia too I may add)
are concerned. I think things will flame up, along the lines of
protest and rioting, in both countries around August 2011,
although I haven't posted this yet. I think it will burn out
though after no more than a month. But Bosnia could erupt in a
military way against peacekeeping troops the same month, I fear.
Again, hopefully, it will not last long.
Thanks for writing.
Best wishes,
Mike
The Evil-ution
of God
nishant
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: Hi Michael
Friday, October 8, 2010 9:36 PM
HI Michael,
I have been following your site newprophecy.net since 4 years now
,
But a few articles I found like :
The Evil-lution of God
to be quiet blasphemous ,it seems to be doubting on the intention
of God , humanity has it's own share of sinful activity for which
God could not be held responsible . Please refrain from posing
God in a negative light since he is the most pure and loving .
(I am a Hindu but I have experienced divinity and take my word
Divinity in any form and Belief is truly pure and liberating)
Regards
Nishant
* * * * *
Hi
Nishant,
If Mike and myself sound blasphemous, for this I am sorry. But do
you not realise the true intention of God is explained in 'The
Evil-ution of God' article? Transhumanism is a very real threat
and I (Kathryn) just want to make sure the human race is going
into this next stage with its eyes open. However, this will be
perceived as blasphemous. Unfortunately there is no other way
around it.
Would you mind if I asked you a question? Do you expect your God
to appear very soon and save you with the final promise?
Kind regards,
Kathryn Wolfe
The
State of Israel
Ivan M.
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: The State of Israel
Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:10 AM
I hope you
are well,
On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly
passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish
State in Eretz-Israel; the General Assembly required the
inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as were necessary
on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This
recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish
people to establish their State is irrevocable.
From the 29th of November 1947 to the 29th of November 2010 is
exactly 63 years, some take this as Daniel's 63 'weeks' before
the last seventh week/ seven years (70 th week). And the
Tribulation period.
Is this a co-incidence maybe not?
Kind Regards......Ivan.
* * * * *
Hi Ivan,
Very soon this month the Jewish new year will begin, which is why
often, but not always, things seem to escalate in the fall.
Doubtlessly, we may at least be getting a preview this autumn
regarding events to occur in the "Gentile" year 2011
which begins for us in January. This could even explain why 9-11
happened in September of 2001.
I will usually go with the significant dates for Israel's war of
liberation, 1948-49. But yes, the first war was a civil war, and
it did begin November 1947 and lasted until May 1948! So you may
be right about trouble starting in November ... quite possibly
another conflict like Gaza in 2008-09 and Lebanon in 2006. I
should mention there is also a chance of a limited Israeli attack
on a target or targets in Syria during or after October 2010 (November
or December 2010 instead?).
The second war was Arab-Israeli and begun in May 1948 and ended
with a final armistice with Syria in July 1949. This is what I am
watching, since the first armistice (with Egypt) supposedly
sealed Israel as a nation in February 1949. We see that in
January 1991, 42 years later, Israel began to be bombarded by
Iraq's SCUD missiles. These bombardments did not end until the
end of February 1991. The final armistice of 1949 was, as I said,
in July. Thus there was potential for a longer conflict in 1991
running January to July. Had Saddam used chemical and biological
weapons, which he had at the time, a part of Israel might have
been rendered uninhabitable.
Since Israel and the world has thus far managed to circumvent a
repeat of major Arab-Israeli wars in 2008 (35 years after the
1973 war) and in 2009 (42 years after the 1967 war), all that
remains is 2011 (63 years after the start of the 1948-49 war) and
2012 (63 years after the decisive ending of the 1948-49 war and
56 years after the 1956 war with Egypt).
According to Jeremiah, cities and towns in northern Israel will
be rendered uninhabitable FOREVER by Babylon (Iraq) with the help
of those of Elam (Iran) ... with Israeli citizens forced to flee
the entire country and then later re-patrioted at the end of the
war. The judgment of both Elam and Babylon are still in the
future as 1) "Babylon" has yet to be destroyed by fire
like "Sodom and Gomorrah" by many nations of the Earth
and rendered uninhabitable FOREVER, and 2) the citizens of "Elam"
have yet to be killed and driven out as refugees upon the world,
with God setting up his throne in Elam afterwards. For that
matter all of southern Jordan has not yet gone the way of "Sodom
and Gomorrah" and been rendered uninhabitable FOREVER at the
hands of Babylon/Elam, nor have many parts of Saudi Arabia been
rendered uninhabitable for 1,000 years, nor has Damascus in Syria
been destroyed by fire (presumably due to an Israeli nuclear
strike or else actually by the hand of God).
Thus, the theme of northern Israel being laid waste could
have been fulfilled by Saddam Hussein in January or February 1991.
The next time this alignment of years takes place is January and
February 2012, although the actual event could take place as late
as July 2012 ... 63 years after the true end of the 1948-49 war
or even October/November 2012 ... 56 years after the Suez war of
1956.
Yes, the seventieth week of Daniel may well begin anytime between
November 2010 (ending in 2017) and November 2012 (ending in 2019).
Kind regards,
Mike
The
following is Angelo's reply to my comments and reaction regarding
his article "FOUR HORSEMEN, FOUR BEASTS,
THREE ANTICHRISTS." His article and my
reply can be currently viewed on Email Forum Archives (1). His article,
without my remarks, also appears on VIEWPOINT.
My
latest reply and new theory
angelo
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: Hi Mike-Angelo (My latest reply and new theory plain
text)
Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:40 AM
Hi Mike,
First of all I can agree with you about the number of antichrists
being more than 3 because of Revelation 17:11: And the beast that
was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and
goeth into perdition. However because the book of Daniel is
simpler to interpret and in no way really differs from Revelation
the Daniel 7:8 ‘3 horn destruction’ prophecy gives
credence to c.8.77 being about that event.
As to the length of the Antichrist’s reign it is open to
interpretation.I for instance assume that he is not the one who
initiates the 27 year war it but is simply alive during the first
20 but also comes to the fore at the beginning of the last 7 and
really brutalizes the earth for the last 3.5 years. Though while
responding to your mail I have also come up with an explanation
as to how he may in fact be instigating a war for 21 years (4
years short of Nostradamus). Your very intriguing and quite
convincing calculation of (1/24 of 1,000 = 41 years) is
substantiated by the bible because in Rev 17:12 says
“the
10 horns you saw are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom
but for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the
beast”
However 41 years even exceeds Nostradamus’ prediction. As I
shall attempt to explain at the very end of this letter it will
probably be the final 7 years that matter most but the other 14
play an important role as well.
(EDITOR'S
NOTE: Actually I said that the 1/2 hour of silence mentioned in Revelation 8:1 ("And when
he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about
the space of half an hour") was equal to nearly
21 years, or exactly 20.833 years (if one
day equals 1,000 years), and was the period of peace to follow
the end of World War III - Mike M.)
I totally
agree with your look at this passage:
The
persecution of the clergy shall have its beginning in the power
of the Aquilonian Kings joined by the Orientals. And that
persecution shall last eleven years, or a little less, at which
time the chief Northern king shall fail, which years being ended,
shall come in his stead a united Southern one, who shall yet more
violently persecute the clergy of the Church for the space of
three years by the apostolic seduction ...
However let me explain let us assume this is not talking of
Hitler, it can indeed speak of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse
if each horse is taken to speak for a nation. You see it is
entirely possible that the book of revelations is speaking of
only the last days and the 4 horsemen are a summary of the 4
major kingdoms/empires as in Daniel or even leaders before the
return of God.
See the whole epistle can be looked at an explanation of events 3
times over, just as the Book of Revelations does. First it
summarizes everything in chapter 6, the 4 horsemen and the
martyrdom of the saints culminating in the 6th seal of
Lord’s return-The Seals, then again beginning with the
sealing of the 144,000 and the 7 trumpet judgments of the first 3.5
years of the Antichrist’s entry onto the scene- ‘The
Trumpets’ While after the death of the two witnesses the
final 3.5 years of terrible tribulation that are subject to the 7
bowls-The Bowls
It is true that by your calculation if half an hour is calculated
by taking every day as a 1000 years then we get 20 years of
respite. However it is also possible that the half hour is just
two weeks if you count an hour as a year.
Let me give an example of God being capable of turning a day into
a year. In Numbers 14 God said as a punishment of doubting/or
disbelieving generation of Israelites those in particular who
were freed from Egypt he said in Numbers 14:31-34
“As
for your children that you said ,I will bring them in to enjoy
the land you have rejected, but you your bodies will fall in this
desert. Your children will be shepherds here for 40 years,
suffering for your unfaithfulness, until the last of your bodies
lies in the desert. For forty years –one year for each of
the 40 days you explored the land –you will suffer for your
sins and know what it is like to have me against you”
Now why am I saying this , in Rev 11 the whole chapter right
before Chapter 13 where the antichrist is lord of the earth we
are given a step by step but very concise chronology. God tells
John to measure the temple of God and count the worshipers there
but leave the outer court for it is given to the gentiles who
will trample the city for 42 months. The months are specific so
there is no need for conversion here. This moment is obviously
the first 3 and a half years of the Antichrist’s reign
because though his power will be over the middle east and
Jerusalem at that time he will still be merely a king not yet
worshiped as God and he will not have access to the temple. It
says there will be 2 witnesses during this period who will warn
the Jews and the world about him, this also speaks for and of the
sealed 144,000 who at that time won’t be harmed in fact it
is speaking of all Christendom in shorthand and the reason is
because the most important part of that prophecy is Rev 11:7-11
“Now
when they have finished their testimony , the beast that comes
out from the abyss will attack them , and overpower them and kill
them. Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city,
which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt where also their
lord was crucified. For 3 and a half days men from every people
tribe ,language and nation will gaze at their bodies and refuse
them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them
and celebrate by sending each other gifts because these two
prophets had tormented those who live on earth but after 3 and a
half days a breath of life from god entered them and they stood
on their feet and terror struck those who saw them. Then they
heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them ‘Come up
here’ and they went up to heaven in a cloud while their
enemies looked on’
It is this part that requires conversion simply because it speaks
of the death of the witnesses for 3 and a half days before their
resurrection. If we understand the significance of the 3 and a
half days in relation to Numbers 14 we can easily see this
speaking of 3 and a half years of the 5th seal or persecution of
all Christians occurring after the Antichrist breaks the covenant
of a week in the middle and erects the Abomination of desolation
in the temple. What is more this ties in with Thessalonians 1 -4:16-17
which says:
“For
the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a loud command (remember
the ‘Come up here’),with the voice of the archangel and
with the trumpet call of God ,and the dead in Christ will rise
first. After that we, who are still alive and are left will be
caught up with them in the clouds and meet the Lord in the air
and so we will be with the Lord forever”
If you look at what happens during the 7th trumpet again it is a
conclusion spoken of in Rev 6:12-17 here all the redeemed say “The kingdom
of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ and
he will reign forever and ever.’
The 7th trumpet is no different from the beginning of
Christ’s reign in Rev 7:9-17
OK that was all necessary to lay the groundwork for what I will
try to explain, In the epistle Nostradamus at some point says the
following:
By
this discourse, Sire, I present these predictions almost with
confusion, especially as to when they will take place.
Furthermore, the chronology of time which follows conforms very
little, if at all, with that which has already been set forth.
This means the epistle though accurate is as convoluted as the
book of Revelations..which is not to say that it does not present
the truth but it does it in a way which needs careful discernment.It
is repetitive with greater and greater detail interspersed with a
few elements out of the timeline like his calculations of
historic genealogies. I am prepared to go into interpreting the
epistle that could in a way negate my earlier interpretation but
not in any way that is not in concordance with the bible. In fact
it simply brings all the horsemen forward seamlessly as existing
in the seals
First of all let us begin with the prologue or as I call the
‘seals’ summary given by Nostradamus
This is the short hand
There
will be great differences between the three brothers, and then
there will be such great cooperation and agreement between them
that the three and four parts of Europe will tremble. The
youngest of them will sustain and augment the Christian monarchy,
and under him sects will be elevated, and suddenly cast down,
Arabs will be driven back, kingdoms united and new laws
promulgated.
This seems to be speaking of 3 brothers or as one can interpret
the 3 leaders. I originally interpreted them as world wars after
WW1 that is WW2,WW3 and WW4. However ‘brothers’ does
not necessarily mean blood brothers it could mean
‘allies’. These 3 brothers may be the 3 lords of who
inherit spheres of the 4 parts of empire after the Goat horn dies.Some
of them are definitely non European and only those that are could
be part of an eventual complete set of the five “Roman’
or European ‘Hercules’ leaders. In Daniel the
transition between horns is smooth there are 2 horns on the ram,
1 horn on the goat, 4 more new horns on the goat and one fifth
horn (in total he turns out to be the 8th after ripping 3 horns
out as in Daniel 7:8)
The
oldest one will rule the land whose escutcheon is that of the
furious crowned lions with their paws resting upon intrepid arms.
I believe this to be the 1st horseman white in colour, and he is
the western Goat. I liken his quiver of arrows to represent
democracy .Yes he will be a great conqueror who will defeat the
Ram in WW3 but here he is mentioned alone because he is the
victor, so the victorious Goat of WW3 can be interpreted as the
first white horseman. What is more western democracy where it is
suggested he hails from- through casting of votes is more like
shooting arrows the analogy is very good because archers shoot
from a distance and not every arrow hits the target just as a
vote does not guarantee a voter of winning an election for his
candidate.
It is interesting that just before the white horseman is
victorious in Daniel 8: 5-7 he faces a threat from the East.Pirticularly
a threat from the Easterner in c.2.29. This Easterner is also
mentioned in c.8.46 as ‘Mars’
Paul
the celibate will die three leagues from Rome,
The two nearest flee the oppressed monster.
When Mars will take up his horrible throne ,
The Cock and the Eagle,France and the 3 brothers
This quatrain speaks of WW3 the Pope that fled from Rome
‘The celibate’ and after this the one called Mars takes
up his horrible throne, Mars is red, Mars is also a god of War
now this directly ties into the second Horseman the red ,Totalitarian
horseman of war. Close quarter combat is only possible with a
sword, the red horseman is brandishing a sword which means
it’s more of a totalitarian warrior who only accepts
allegiance at the point of his sword. If Mars is the eastern
invader of 2.29 then the last line is the summary of those who
defeat him an alliance of Westerners(the white horseman. Cock)
and Northerners(Eagle). The eagle may not necessarily be
USA’s symbol as it is now also Russia’s ensign so the
Cock(France) has 3 brothers or western allies and is allied with
the Eagle of the East(Russia). The Goat defeats the Ram and
breaks his two horns which most likely means his 2 allies, notice
c.8.46 says two nearest flee (or defect) from the oppressed
monster /the Easterner as evidenced by other quatrains like c. 5.78
and c.6. 58. Perhaps the ‘Poles’ in c. 5.73 does not
mean the polish people but a synonym for ‘Northerners’
or Russians who later turn against the black one of Tartary.
The
one second in age, accompanied by the Latins, will penetrate far,
until a second furious and trembling path has been beaten to the
Great St. Bernard Pass. From there he will descend to mount the
Pyrenees, which will not, however, be transferred to the French
crown. And this third one will cause a great inundation of human
blood, and for a long time Lent will not include March.
The second in age is one of the two bloody Kings of Aquilon
because the first horseman after his victory over the eastern ram
comprised the Northerners and Westerners. It could be that the
new horn inheriting the western Goat’s kingdom proper in
Daniel 8:8 resides in the white horse kingdom (Western Europe/westerners)
while the other new horn of the northerners(Russia) inherits the
red horse kingdom( Central Asia and all the ‘Stans’)
and the leader of the North becomes the red horse rider with a
sword.
At
the eve of another desolation, when she is atop her most high and
sublime dignity, some potentates and warlords will confront her,
and take away her two swords, and leave her only the insignia,
whose curvature attracts them. The people will make him go to the
right and will not wish to submit themselves to those of the
opposite extreme with the hand in acute position, who touch the
ground, and want to drive spurs into them.
This speaks of both of them facing a new enemy in a new war .Here
the potentates and warlords confront Europe and take away her
‘2 swords’..This is interesting the swords here mean
the 2 strong men or leaders of Europe .In facts it speaks of 2
lords of Aquilon who over a rule of 11 or more years will fall to
a new threat from the east or south. The key here is the insignia
of Europe becomes the Crescent moon -the symbol of Islam whose
curvature attracts the Muslims. The Europeans and Christendom at
the time will put themselves under a protection of two strong
leaders against a common enemy from the South.
The
people of the world from this benevolent slavery to which they
had voluntary submitted. He will put himself under the protection
of Mars, stripping Jupiter of all his honors and dignities, and
establish himself in the free city in another scant Mesopotamia.
The chief and governor will be cast out from the middle and hung
up, ignorant of the conspiracy of one of the conspirators with
the second Thrasibulus, who for a long time will have directed
all this.
One of the two kings of Aquilon is mentioned as a conspirator (one
of the original triumvirate or 3 powers after the Goat’s
death who conspires to defeat the rest). I think this is the
‘infidel’ who turns communist spoken of later in the
epistle ( the Red colour could speak for a communist element
because the Eastern invader of 2.29 may or may not be a communist
force and so one of the kings of Aquilon will become the Red
horseman .It says ‘He will put himself under the protection
of Mars( a red planet/ God of War) which bears an uncanny
resemblance to the Red horseman.’ Moreover remembering that
Jupiter was a Roman name for God, the stripping of God of all his
honours- means this leader will strip his domain of all
Christianity.He is motivated only by conquest while fighting the
King of the South(the black horseman), the great one of Africa
and his eastern allies in 1.9 and 5.23. In fact c. 5.23 explains
some of the difficulty in interpreting it says:
The
two contented ones will be united together,
When for the most part they will be conjoined with Mars:
The great one of Africa trembles in terror,
Duumvirate disjoined by the fleet
This means both lords of Aquilon will battle the black horseman
or king of the south.
The
daughter will be given for the preservation of the Christian
Church. Her lord will fall into the pagan sect of the new
infidels. Of her two children, one will be faithful to the
Catholic Church, the other an infidel. The unfaithful son, who,
to his great confusion and later repentance, will want to ruin
her, will have three widely scattered regions, namely, the Roman,
Germany and Spain,which will set up diverse sects by armed force.
The 50th to the 52th degree of latitude will be left behind.
Here the fact is inescapable one of them will be an apostate and
start
persecuting Christianity. I think the Russian kings is the most
likely to do
this. While one king will be perhaps a pseudo Christian the other
is a complete
apostate.Assuming the kings of the far east remain Communists the
apostasy here
seems to suggest communism not Islam.Evntually The king of
Aquilon who is
supposed to protect the Church will instead turn against her. The
Red horseman
will probably gain control of Italy, Germany and Spain while
battling the king
of the South there
And
all will render the homage of ancient religions to the region of
Europe
north of the 48th parallel. The latter will have trembled first
in vain timidity
but afterwards the regions to its west, south and east will
tremble. But the
nature of their power will be such that what has been brought
about by concord
and union will prove insuperable by warlike conquests.
Many people would probably think of this Aquilon figure as the
Trojan German of 5.74 , but it seems this is talking of an
apostasy so he does not fit here i.e. the homage of ancient
religions is definitely pre Christian maybe against the Buddhist-Hindu
elements of the kings of the east(probably China’s influence
on its Russian ally ,the 2nd horseman-Red king of the north).
In
nature they will be equal, but very different in faith.
This tends to be likening the 2nd apostate king of Aquilon to the
southern King probably the Persian of 3.60 or the one of Fez of 6.80.
Both are not Christian , the northerner is atheist while the
southerner is Muslim. I do not really think the king of the south
will be an African simply that the Persian’s forces will
conquer much of North Africa which lies south to Europe’s
kings of the North. In fact if Russia is part of Aquilon that
means everything South of the Black and Caspian seas still holds
true as the vast caliphate stretching from Morocco to Afghanistan
under the rulership of the black horseman or king of the South.
He represents wealth economically. Interestingly in Rev 6:6 it
says
‘Then
I heard what sounded like a voice among the 4 living creatures(the
ones holding the throne of god not to be confused with the
horsemen) saying A quart of wheat for a days wages and three
quarts of barley for a day’s wages and do not damage the oil
and the wine’
This is very very important it may look like it has nothing to do
with what Nostradamus mentioned but indeed it does here it is
implying that the oil(oil is a symbol of anointing especially
among the Jews) and the wine(wine is a symbol of the Eucharist
among the Christians) will not ne harmed by this 3rd horseman in
other words it is very possible that while the king of the south
will be warring with Europe and Israel , he will not prevail and
if he did then only temporarily as explained below.
After
this the barren Dame, of greater power than the second, will be
received by two of the nations. First, by them made obstinate by
the onetime masters of the universe. Second, by the latter
themselves.
I think here it requires two interpretations: The first is Europe
will conquered by two nations as we have already seen- first by
the communist red horseman (made obstinate by all religion
especially at that time the new caliphate mirroring ancient Egypt,
Assyria and Babylon-the masters of old) and secondly by the
Muslim empire of the 3rd black horseman under a ruler who is of
greater power than the 2nd King of Aquilon..The exact detail is
in c 5.45 where the king of the South is said to behead two
bastards probably linked to the removal of ‘Europe’s
two swords’. However ultimately the 2nd interpretation is
that one of greater power than the second , here the 3rd king of
Aquilon will cleanse Europe of the invaders and himself conquer
both the Red horseman’s domain (Russia) and the Black
horseman’s domain(Middle east) he is probably the German
Trojan of c. 5.74 one I can call the 4th Hercules.
The
third people will extend their forces towards the circuit of the
East of Europe where, in the Pannonias, they will be overwhelmed
and slaughtered. By sea they will extend their Myrmidons and
Germans to Adriatic Sicily. But they will succumb wholly and the
Barbarian sect will be greatly afflicted and driven out by all
the Latins.
This is the illustration of the 3rd king of Aquilon of 5.74
chasing out all the threats to Europe from the east ,while also
conquering the middle east .This threat is by the ‘3rd
people’. If as we said the ‘oil’ are the Jews and
the ‘wine’ are Christians then the 3rd people are the
Muslims- people of the 3rd horseman which is representative of
Islam.
Then
the great Empire of the Antichrist will begin where once was
Attila's empire and the new Xerxes will descend with great and
countless numbers, so that the coming of the Holy Ghost,
proceeding from the 48th degree, will make a transmigration,
chasing out the abomination of the Christian Church, and whose
reign will be for a time and to the end of time.
This is just a quick summary of the 4th horseman, even if we are
to exclude it as speaking of a later time than the new Babylon(USSR
lasting 73 years that I initially deduced).I have found that this
empire probably lasts 70 years as I shall explain. As always the
comparisons can be made to the final Antichrist because Attila
hailed from the current area of Magog which is said to be the
area of the Prince of Meschech and Tubal. An excerpt from the
book I sent you says:
A
closer study of these names reveals that Meshach and Tubal are
the ancient Moschi/Mushki and Tubalu/Tibareni peoples who dwelled
in the area around, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian
Seas in Ezekiel’s day. These nations today are in the modern
country of Turkey, possibly parts of southern Russia and northern
Iran.
Notice the epistle calls the final antichrist the new Xerxes,
Xerxes was a Persian emperor. What is more almanac of 1559 says
that one from the east will be the victor over the west
eventually
From
the house seven through death in mortal succession,
Hail, tempest, pestilent evil, furies:
King of the East all the West in flight,
He will subjugate his former conquerors.
He may not arise from the east literally but definitely will have
eastern (read Semitic or Arab) heritage as suggests c.2.78 it
says
The
great Neptune of the deep of the sea
With Punic race and Gallic blood mixed
The Isles bled, because of the tardy rowing
More harm will it do him than the ill concealed secret
If this is linked to quatrain c.3. 59 which says
Barbarian
empire usurped by the third,
The greater part of his blood he will put to death:
Through senile death the fourth struck by him,
For fear that the blood through the blood be not dead.
It is evident that he will put the greater part of his Semitic
heritage Jews and Arabs to death especially as echoed by his
murder of the two witnesses
Interestingly he is said to strike the ‘fourth’ meaning
a quarter while Rev 6:8 says
“I
looked and there before me was a pale horse .It’s rider was
named Death and Hades was following close behind him .They were
given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by the sword,
famine and plague and by the wild beasts of the earth’
This is important because while famines, swords exist before this
pale horseman, the plagues which can also be celestial plagues of
the trumpets and the locusts(wild beasts of Rev 9) are only
mentioned when he is on the scene. Also he represents Death and
Hades because during his reign there is nothing but death and
tribulation and after his reign, the unjust will be locked away
in the abyss to face the lake of fire 1000 years later.
This will
be preceded by a solar eclipse more dark and gloomy than any
since the creation of the world, except that after the death and
passion of Jesus Christ. And it will be in the month of October
than the great translation will be made and it will be such that
one will think the gravity of the earth has lost its natural
movement and that it is to be plunged into the abyss of perpetual
darkness.
This to
me is straight forward before the arrival of Jesus as in the 6th
seal there is the darkest solar eclipse the earth shakes
violently such that one will think gravity of the earth has lost
its natural hold perhaps showing why mountains fall and islands
are inundated . The mention of the Holy spirit also mentions the
final return of Jesus.
Now just as I explained the ‘seal’ portion of the
epistle .Like in the bible Nostradamus first summarizes and then
goes into more detail on the same events later on in the epistle.
He says
The
chiefs of the Church will be backward in the love of God, and
several of them will apostatize from the true faith. Of the three
sects, that which is in the middle, because of its own partisans,
will be thrown a bit into decadence. The first one will be
exterminated throughout all Europe and most of Africa by the
third one, making use of the poor in spirit who, led by madmen to
libidinous luxury, will adulterate.
This seems to be speaking of the conditions of the world before
WW3.I think the 3 sects are the three Abrahamic religions .They
go in order of seniority, the first one is Judaism which will be
exterminated throughout all Europe and most of Africa by the
third one (Islam) while Christianity(the middle one) will be
thrown into decadence.
The
supporting common people will rise up and chase out the adherents
of the legislators. From the way realms will have been weakened
by the Easterners, it will seem that God the Creator has loosed
Satan from the prisons of hell to give birth to the great Dog and
Dogam, who will make such an abominable breach in the Churches
that neither the reds nor the whites without eyes or hands will
know what to make of it, and their power will be taken from them.
This speaks of the Ram of Daniel 8, I think he is mentioned as
the Dog of Dogam perhaps linking him with the final antichrist
from Attila( around areas of central Asia and Iran) who is
preceded by a 2nd antichrist- the black one from the Tartary of 2.29
. I always link the Tartars to Attila because there are plenty of
them in the present area of Dagestan, Tartary (southern Russia)
and among the former vassals of the Seljuk Turks who historically
are descendants of the Mongols .. that is why I mentioned Lenin
who was a Tartar being the one who led the birth of the bear
empire of Daniel. Obviously I did not include Hitler randomly but
rather because he led to events that led to the birth of Israel
and it so happens that even though Lenin and Stalin ruled the
Bear empire of USSR and Mao Zedong was alive too. It is Hitler
who shaped events both directly and indirectly at the time. For
example you mention Robespierre, Fouche, Danton and I can even
add Jean Paul Marat, they all drove the revolution of 1789 and as
you rightly said persecuted the church bring about the birth of
the Cult of Reason, yet it was Napoleon alive during the American
)their contemporary during the French revolution, that shaped
events in a much more profound way continentally than they did
and so deserves to be called the white horseman.
Then
will commence a persecution of the Churches the like of which was
never seen. Meanwhile, such a plague will arise that more than
two thirds of the world will be removed. One will be unable to
ascertain the true owners of fields and houses, and weeds growing
in the streets of cities will rise higher than the knees. For the
clergy there will be but utter desolation. The warlords
will usurp what is returned from the City of the Sun, from Malta
and the Isles of Hyères. The great chain of the port which wakes
its name from the marine ox will be opened.
And
a new incursion will be made by the maritime shores, wishing to
deliver the Sierra Morea from the first Mahometan recapture.
Their assaults will not all be in vain, and the place which was
once the abode of Abraham will be assaulted by persons who hold
the Jovialists in veneration. And this city of "Achem"
will be surrounded and assailed on all sides by a most powerful
force of warriors. Their maritime forces will be weakened by the
Westerners, and great desolation will fall upon this realm. Its
greatest cities will be depopulated and those who enter will fall
under the vengeance of the wrath of God.
The
sepulcher, for long an object of such great veneration, will
remain in the open, exposed to the sight of the heavens, the Sun
and the Moon. The holy place will be converted into a stable for
a herd large and small, and used for profane purposes. Oh, what a
calamitous affliction will pregnant women bear at this time.
For
hereupon the principal Eastern chief will be vanquished by the
Northerners and Westerners, and most of his people, stirred up,
will be put to death, overwhelmed or scattered. His children,
offspring of many women, will be imprisoned. Then will be
accomplished the prophecy of the Royal Prophet, Let him hear the
groaning of the captives, that he might deliver the children of
those doomed to die.
This is obviously speaking of the victory of the white rider with
arrows; he is the Goat of the west/1st horseman ,who defeated
that Ram (or dog of Dogam)
What
great oppression will then fall upon the Princes and Governors of
Kingdoms, especially those which will be maritime and Eastern,
whose tongues will be intermingled with all others: the tongue of
the Latins, and of the Arabs, via the Phoenicians. And all these
Eastern Kings will be chased, overthrown and exterminated, but
not altogether, by means of the forces of the Kings of the North,
and because of the drawing near of our age through the three
secretly united in the search for death, treacherously laying
traps for one another. This renewed Triumvirate will last for
seven years, and the renown of this sect will extend around the
world. The sacrifice of the hole and immaculate Wafer will be
sustained.
Notice the three subsequent domains united, the Triumvirate
lasting 7 years, The kings are 3 Hercules or the 3 brothers of c.8.46
.They are European leaders Ogmios of 5.80(Cock), Belgian Roman of
5.13 and Macedonian or Adriatic Ligurian of 10.7 This is probably
the period of peace. Is not necessarily 7 years then, but could
be interpreted as the the 7 weeks of Daniel spoken of as the
‘7 sevens’ where in Daniel 9: 25-26 it says
“Know
and understand this. From the issuing of the decree to restore
and rebuild Jerusalem until the anointed one(Christ), the ruler
comes there will be 7 sevens and 62 sevens. It will be rebuilt
with streets and a trench but in times of trouble. After the 62
sevens , the anointed one will be cut off and will have nothing.
The people of the ruler (antichrist) who will come will destroy
the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood . War
will continue until the end and desolations have been
decreed”
Off course this by some is interpreted to have started already in
1948 or even 1967 when Jerusalem was taken over by the Israelis
fully, BUT that is not the only interpretation, the countdown
could start after the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the building of
the 3rd temple, after WW3 and so far I see only the 2nd
antichrist giving a likely scenario. However 49 years of peace if
we are to make each week 7 years long is much closer to c.10.89
that mentions 57 years of peace than the 21 years that you
mention. Though as I said you may be right it’s all a matter
of interpretation .The ‘cutting off of the anointed’ is
probably speaking of the stopping of temple sacrifice and ritual
and its sacrilege with an abomination adorning it NOT the death
of Jesus…unless the first 7 sevens and 62 sevens speak of
the already fulfilled prophecy of the first century and there is
an indefinite gap between then and the final week or 84 months as
some imagine. This is again a matter of interpretation.
To me the problem with making every week 7 years and counting
chronologically from say 1948 would mean that the first 7 sevens
and the other 62 sevens become 483 years and this makes the 2nd
advent somewhere in 2400’s which is way too far in my
opinion. It even goes beyond your date of c .2243. If you notice
it says the ‘people of the ruler’ , the antichrist
emphasis was mine, but what if this line means the same stock of
the antichrists’ people but years before under a different
ruler(the 2nd antichrist-the ram) will destroy the city…
The sanctuary(which in all likelihood means the 3rd temple) may
or may not be in place during the 2nd antichrist’s time on
earth. Nevertheless it says war will continue from that moment on
until the end of time. It mirrors well with the wars among the
four quadrants that remain left as the centers of power on earth
after the great goat 1st horseman dies, his seat will probably be
taken by the western Europeans or North American sphere(westerners)
while the red horseman is he domain of the Russians(northerners)
, the 3rd black horseman is the king of the South(perhaps the
Mahdi) while the king of the pale horse is the last antichrist.
Now we proceed, to one of your contentious parts of the epistle
At
that time the great sails of Byzantium, allied with the Ligurians
and through the support and power of "Aquilon" [the
Northern Realm], will impede them so greatly that the two Cretans
will be unable to maintain their faith. The arks built by the
Warriors of ancient times will accompany them to the waves of
Neptune. In the Adriatic great discord will arise, and that which
will have been united will be separated. To a house will be
reduced that which was, and is, a great city, including "Pampotamia"
and "Mesopotamia" of Europe at 45, and others of 41, 42
and 37 degrees.
It
will be at this time and in these countries that the infernal
power will set the power of its adversaries against the Church of
Jesus Christ. This will constitute of the second Antichrist, who
will persecute that Church and its true Vicar, by means of the
power of three temporal kings who in their ignorance will be
seduced by tongues which, in the hands of the madmen, will cut
more than any sword.
I strongly believe this is talking about the apostate king of
Aquilon turning on the church ,while his partner is a pseudo-Christian
and their common enemy down south is a blood thirsty Jihadist .
This is the detail of what takes place after the
‘peace’ of the triumvirate. I presume Byzantium to be
Russia(orthodox Christian domain of the east as opposed to the
Catholic west), so maybe here is another description of one of 2
Aquilon kings, a Russian. Interestingly even though i do not know
who the Ligurians are an astonishing quatrain in century 3 c.3.39
suggests a similar event to c.2.18 where 7 probably the 7 of
magog coalition dies suddenly by God's hand .So the Ligurian is a
powerful king perhaps another Hercules
C.3.39
The seven in three months in agreement,
To subjugate the Apennine Alps:
But the tempest and cowardly Ligurian,
Destroys them in sudden ruins.
It is reiterated that their unity is short lived and is followed
by separation. In the epistle and in the quatrains in particular
c.5.27 the Adriatic sea is covered by Arab blood, it suggests
that this is a war with the south or the black horseman once
again .I do not believe this to be world war two or any Balkan
campaign prior .
You seem to say Nostradamus mentions Hitler too late after the
‘empire of the antichrist’ but your suggestion of
equating 41,42,45 and 37 degrees is clearly a stretching of the
word degree. He definitely meant latitudinal degrees as he always
liked to do not years!! Moreover if this in your mind supposes
allusions to Hitler and Mussolini as the second antichrist it is
defeated by your ‘Ecllesiatical’ folk argument, the 2nd
antichrist persecutes the Vicar and the church while Hitler did
no such thing specifically, he only persecuted the Jews. That is
why my view that he was the first if we go by this interpretation
still holds.
I would be more willing to accept this period if you said it
speaks of the 3 horsemen, the red, the and the white who rule for
11 years fighting against the black one.
Well as to your suggestion of France being called Mesopotamia in
8.70, with Nostradamus anything is possible, but I have an
amazingly new interpretation of who this mystery Babylon or the
feminine whore.
First of all In Zachariah 5:6-11 a mysterious woman is hidden in
a basket it says
“
What is it.. ‘It is a measuring basket, this is the iniquity
of the people throughout the land’ the cover of the lid was
raised and there in the basket sat a woman .He said ‘This is
wickedness’ and he pushed her back into the basket and
pushed the lead cover over it. Then I looked up and there before
me were two women with the wind in their wings. They had wings
like those of a stork and they lifted up the basket between
heaven and earth ‘Where are they taking the basket?’, I
asked the angel who was speaking to me. He replied ‘To the
country of Babylonia to build a house for it when it is ready the
basket will be set there in its place to be worshipped’
This
prophecy definitely negates France as being Mesopotamia, here the
detail is given that it is Babylonia or modern Iraq, or any
country under the influence of the ancient Babylonian empire,
moreover it speaks of being set in it’s place to be
worshipped This speaks of the abomination in the temple in
Jerusalem when the antichrist commits sacrilege in the temple
when Jerusalem shall be called Sodom and Egypt…probably why
a Jerusalem gets a total makeover when Christ returns.
Anyway
the prophecy above is even more astounding when one reads Isaiah
23: 15 it talks of the end time because it says
“At
that time Tyre will be forgotten for 70 years, the span of a
King’s life, but at the end of these 70 years, it will
happen to Tyre as in the song of the prostitute
-Take
a harp, walk through the city O prostitute forgotten play the
harp well, sing many a song so that you will be remembered. At
the end of the 70 years the Lord will deal with tyre. She will
return to her hire as a prostitute and will ply her trade with
all the kingdoms of the face of the earth’
As you can see the bible backs everything up, so this city of
Tyre will probably be the prostitute of Babylon resurrected after
70 years. The same whore riding the beast in Rev 17:3-5. To me
this is exactly what Daniel talked about when he mentioned of a
period spanning 70 time units, though he mentioned 70 weeks
instead of years. So here we may agree that a week can stand for
a year. In Luke 21:32 Jesus himself said
‘I
tell you the truth, this generation(the generation that saw the
start of the tribulation) will certainly not pass away until all
these things have happened’
Interestingly this may well be the future new Babylon spoken of
by Nostradamus that lasts 73 years, he may have just been off by
3 years but he could still be correct going by the above bible
verses!!! I tend to agree because I do not believe the Antichrist
has to be alive for 70 years , he simply grows out of one of the
resulting 4 th empire while the empire he will rule keeps
assimilating characteristics of all 3 empires prior .In Rev 13:2
it says
“The
beast I saw resembled a Leopard(the 3rd empire of Daniel), but
had feet like a bear(the 2nd empire of Daniel), and a mouth like
that of a lion(the 1st empire of Daniel).The dragon gave the
beast his power and his throne and great authority”
This is exactly a coalition of all 3 prior empires of Daniel and
when they coalesce they become the 4th empire of Attila.
So the generation that was born during the victories of the Great
goat over the Ram would live through all the tribulations of the
other horsemen even the antichrist. This means the prophecy of
Daniel having a false peace period either in the middle or at the
end means just as you suggest that WW3 and WW4 may be just a
generation apart. Meanwhile another amazing prophecy to back this
up is in Ezekiel 28:2-3 Tyre is spoken of in the context of the
end time it says;
“Son
of man, say to the ruler of Tyre.. ‘this is what the
sovereign Lord says: in the pride of your heart you say ‘I
am a god. I sit on the throne of a god, but you are a man not a
god though you think you are as wise as a god. Are you wiser than
Daniel is no secret hidden from you?”
Here it speaks of a king of Tyre claiming to be a god and God
asks if this ruler is wiser than Daniel who definitely prophesied
about this very king millennia before. In verses 4 to 10 the
punishment of Tyre which will probably be the capital of the
Mystery Babylon ruled by the antichrist is mentioned.
Anyway going back to the epistle in detail again he continues
giving a clue to the triumvirate which he says are part of the 4
horns left after the fall of the goat.
The
said reign of the Antichrist will last only to the death of him
who was born at the beginning of the age and of the other one of
Lyon, associated with the elected one of the House of Modena and
of Ferrara, maintained by the Adriatic Ligurians and the
proximity of great Sicily. Then the Great St. Bernard will be
passed.
Here again a passing of the St Bernard is mentioned called the
‘second furious path’ earlier in the ‘seals’
portion , but unlike the first path probably beaten by the Goat
in c. 5.68 which says:
In
the Danube and of the Rhine will come to drink
The great Camel, not repenting it:
Those of the Rhone to tremble, and much more so those of the
Loire
And near the Alps the Cock will ruin him.
… the second one will be beaten by one of Lyon associated
with one of Modena probably Ogmios of 5.80 and the Belgian Roman
of 5.13
Nostradamus goes on to say
The
Gallic Ogmios will be accompanied by so great a number that the
Empire of his great law will extend very far. For some time
thereafter the blood of the Innocent will be shed profusely by
the recently elevated guilty ones. Then, because of great floods,
the memory of things contained in these instruments will suffer
incalculable loss, even letters. This will happen to the "Aquiloners"
[the Northern People] by the will of God.
Once
again Satan will be bound, universal peace will be established
among men, and the Church of Jesus Christ will be delivered from
all tribulations, although the Philistines would like to mix in
the honey of malice and their pestilent seduction. This will be
near the seventh millenary, when the sanctuary of Jesus Christ
will no longer be trodden down by the infidels who come from
"Aquilon" [the North]. The world will be approaching a
great conflagration, although, according to my calculations in my
prophecies, the course of time runs much further.
I believe that this figure of Ogmios will probably come from the
western half of the Kingdom of Aquilon. While the second king
will come from the east or Russia. The period of peace is only
temporary probably the 7 years of the triumvirate before the
chaos explodes again. Both will probably be fighting against the
black horseman king of the South of 6.80 who has his sights on
Europe and Christendom.
Nostradamus says
During
this astrological supputation, harmonized with the Holy
Scriptures, the persecution of the Ecclesiastical folk will have
its origin in the power of the Kings of "Aquilon" [the
North], united with the Easterners. This persecution will last
for eleven years, or somewhat less, for then the chief King of
"Aquilon" will fall. Thereupon the same thing will
occur in the South, where for the space of three years the Church
people will be persecuted even more fiercely through the
Apostatic seduction of one who will hold all the absolute power
in the Church militant. The hole people of God, the observer of
his law, will be persecuted fiercely and such will be their
affliction that the blood of the true Ecclesiastics will flow
everywhere.
One
of the horrible temporal Kings will be told by his adherents, as
the ultimate in praise, that he has shed more of human blood of
Innocent Ecclesiastics than anyone else could have spilled of
wine. This King will commit incredible crimes against the Church.
Human blood will flow in the public streets and temples, like
water after an impetuous rain, coloring the nearby rivers red
with blood. The ocean itself will be reddened by another naval
battle, such that one king will say to another, Naval
battles have caused the sea to blush.
Then,
in this same year, and in those following, there will ensue the
most horrible pestilence, made more stupendous by the famine
which will have preceded it. Such great tribulations will never
have occurred since the first foundation of the Christian Church.
It will cover all Latin regions, and will leave traces in some
countries of the Spanish.
Looking at Rev 8. It seems to me that the pestilence is from
heaven. The signs from the sky that seem to set the stage for the
arrival of the 3rd and final antichrist. However they occur
during the reign of the two kings of Aquilon.
In Rev 9 after the fall of Wormwood (also a heavenly sign) the
signal that the antichrist has arrived is hinted at in Rev 9:2-6.
“When
he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a
gigantic furnace .the sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from
the Abyss. And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth
and were given power like that of scorpions on earth. They were
told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but
only those people who did not have the seal of God on their
forheads.They were not given power to kill them but only torture
them for five months…During those days men will seek death ,but
will not find it;they will long to die but death will elude
them”
First of all I do not necessarily interpret this as a sign that
it will occur when man is immortal. Secondly remember my
interpretation of the oil and the wine…the sealed people. My
conclusion is this is still speaking of the war of coercion or
conquest waged by the black horseman the Great one of Africa or
Iran whichever hold true initially among his Muslim brethren..before
attempting to conquer Europe or Israel . Whether this is the
Suyafani, or the Mahdi I do not know exactly. Mahdi seems more
likely for he is trying to lead the people of Mesech and Tubal (Central
Asia and Dagestan), Persians (Iran), Prince of Cush (Sudan and
horn of Africa), Put (Libya), Gomer (Turkey) and Beth Tugarmah (northern
Turkey) in a final war against Israel.
The 4 angels released at the Euphrates in the 6th trumpet in Rev
9:13-19 that cause the death of one third of the earth through
war ally with this king of the south…The 3rd horseman here
is fighting against the other two of the north while at the same
time trying through 4 eastern co-conspirators to fight in the
holy land. As you can gather by now it does not mean that a
horseman only stands for one leader but more like a pre-eminent
power who can have smaller affiliates under him.The coalition of
Gog and Magog gives credibility to this.
Keeping in mind that this ‘pestilence’ spoken of in the
epistle comprises of the first 4 trumpet judgments and covers all
the Latin regions..it is likely
that it refers to all regions where Latin Alphabet is used,
probably western Europe and Central Europe, the Balkans, North
America, Antipodes and Sub Saharan Africa while the
‘Spanish’ means the entire Latin America. This actually
looks much more than a third of the Earth. Maybe it’s the 2
thirds spoken of in Zachariah 13:8-9
However this southern king the 3rd horseman or Mahdi survives as
suggested by c.2.92
Fire
colour of gold from the sky seen on earth:
Heir struck from on high, marvelous deed done:
Great human murder: the nephew of the great one taken
Deaths spectacular the proud one escaped.
He is the one left to battle the king of the north or the 3rd
king of Aquilon..I have found an interesting quatrain that
suggests that he succeeds the first time probably during his
campaign of c.6.80 against the two kings of Aquilon because c 5.45
says:
The
great empire will soon be desolated
And transferred to near the Ardennes:
The two bastards beheaded by the oldest one,
And Bronze beard the hawk-nose will reign.
Perhaps it speaks of the ‘bastards’ being the two kings
of Aquilon who inherit the domains conquered by the Goat while
not being his heirs as is suggested in Daniel 11;4 which says
“After he has appeared ,his empire will be broken up and
parceled out towards the two winds of heaven .It will not go to
his descendants ,nor will it have the power he exercised, because
his empire will be uprooted
and given to others” However a European king rises up
against him and chases all his forces out of Europe . This could
be the Trojan German or the hungry mule of 2.60 . I say this
because in Islamic eschatology the Dajal rides a giant mule.
Moreover I the reference to the Goshawk in c.3.92 is not to an
emblem of the southern ruler but the physical appearance of him
who blinds the ‘Blind one of Arbon’ in c. 6.56. He has
a hawkish look and a bronze beard as mentioned in c 5.45 . So the
one eyed king of France of c.3.55 or a commander of Ogmios whose
eye is put out in c.3.41 could be the individual spoken of as the
Dajjal in Muslim eschatology
In c.3.92
The
world near the last period,
Saturn will come back again late:
Empire transferred towards the Dusky nation,
The eye plucked out by the Goshawk at Narbonne.
First of all here the line ‘The world near the last period
suggest this is at least during the first half of the tribulation
where despite warring valiantly the 3rd king of Aquilon will
eventually fall as described in Daniel 11:14-19.
c.
6.56
The
dreaded army of the Narbonne enemy
Will frighten very greatly the Hesperians:
Perpignan empty through the blind one of Arbon,
Then Barcelona by sea will take up the quarrel.
‘Arbon’ bearing a phonetic resemblance to
‘Narbonne’ meaning that the King of the south the 3rd
horseman not only destroys the 2 kings of Aquilon but also
outlives the 3rd king of Aquilon(the renovator)
The 3rd horseman’s army is definitely destroyed by God by
celestial catastrophes . I know of the Apophis asteroid and you
missed one important fact! Astronomers say it will pass twice;
first time in 2029 when it may miss BUT if it passes through the
‘keyhole’ area where the earth’s gravity will
slingshot its trajectory ensuring a return in 2036 it is in that
year that it will hit for sure .
Isn’t it interesting that the first passage is 7 years away
from the 2nd passage?? It looks like it marks the beginning of
the Tribulation and marks the end! Off course it does seem to fit
well as the great mountain of fire spoken of in Rev 8:8 … I
don’t know about Planet X though. I always thought planet X
comes just before Christ returns causing the giant earthquake and
huge hailstones talked of in Rev 16:17-21. Though if it instead
of Apophis flies by the first time and then 7 years later then
that could well be the dragon spoken of by Mother Shipton, the
Great Destroyer of the Kolbrin bible, or Veronica Leuken’s
Ball of redemption.
After all in 2nd peter 3:10 it is said
“But
the day of the Lord will come like a thief .The heavens will
disappear, with a roar the elements will be destroyed by fire and
the earth and everything in it will be laid bare”
While Isaiah 66:15-16 says
“See
the Lord is coming with fire and his chariots are like a
whirlwind, he will bring down his anger with fury and his rebuke
with flames of fire. For with fire and with his sword will the
Lord execute judgment upon all men and many will be slain by the
Lord’
Nostradamus lastly says
Thereupon
the third King of "Aquilon" [the North], hearing the
lament of the people of his principal title, will raise a very
mighty army and, defying the tradition of his predecessors, will
put almost everything back in its proper place, and the great
Vicar of the hood will be put back in his former state. But
desolated, and then abandoned by all, he will turn to find the
Holy of Holies destroyed by paganism, and the old and new
Testaments thrown out and burned.
After
that Antichrist will be the infernal prince again, for the last
time. All the Kingdoms of Christianity will tremble, even those
of the infidels, for the space of twenty-five years. Wars and
battles will be more grievous and towns, cities, castles and all
other edifices will be burned, desolated and destroyed, with
great effusion of vestal blood, violations of married woman and
widows, and sucking children dashed and broken against the walls
of towns. By means of Satan, Prince Infernal, so may evils will
be committed that nearly all the world will find itself undone
and desolated. Before these events, some rare birds will cry in
the air: Hui, Hui [Today, today] and some time later will vanish.
I believe the 3rd king of Aquilon will initially be successful in
conquering the Holy land and will survive being wounded by the
King of the south . Yet he will die, to give way to the true
Antichrist . If he is not the hungry mule, then he may be
succeeded immediately by the hungry mule of 2.60 or the Gallic-Punic
hybrid of Neptune in c.2.78 called the ‘infernal
Hannibal’ in 2.30 or the Antichrist of 8.77 . So he
eventually destroys the other 3 quadrants of the white horse, the
red horse, the black horse to be the undisputed pale horse of
death and hell ,persecutor of Christians for the last 42 months
of the tribulation. We can assume that the 4 angels of Trumpet 6
are the 4 leaders of the quadrants and therefore the 4 chieftains
or horsemen warring against each other. Out of the 4 one comes
out the one victor as the fifth horn growing out in Daniel 8:9-12
‘Out of one of them came another horn which started to grow
small but grew in power to the south, and to the east and towards
the beautiful land. It grew until it reached the host of the
heavens and it threw some of the starry host down to earth and
trampled on them. It set itself up to be as great as the Prince
of the host (Christ),it took away the daily sacrifice from him
and the place of his Sanctuary(temple) was brought low. Because
of rebellion the host of saints , and the daily sacrifice were
given over to it. It prospered in everything it did and truth was
thrown to the ground”
It is really hard to pin the tail on the donkey but I can attempt
in two ways either
First:
It is all conjecture guessing the correct order of the European
kings . The great horn of the goat or Cock -Chyren is the 1st,
the Belgian Roman of 5.13 is the 2nd and the Trojan German is the
4th . I do not include the Russian or American because they are
not considered true European powers. After discovering c.3.39 I
cannot make out who better fits as the 3rd king of Aquilon Ogmios
of 5.80 or I think the Adriatic Ligurian of c.3.39 /Macedonian of
c.10.7. I am sure one of them battles against the Mahdi and loses
his eye and perhaps his life(he ought to be called the fifth but
his successor will call himself the fifth Hercules) and this most
likely is the true Antichrist.
Interestingly in Islamic tradition there is a prophecy is of 4
pacts or truces forged between the Muslims and the Romans (Christians).
A hadith says that Muhammad prophesied:
“There
will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans [Christians].
The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will
be from the progeny of Hadrat Haroon [Honorable Aaron –
Moses’ brother] and will be upheld for seven years.
This fourth one seems to mirror the last 7 years of tribulation
and maybe the signatories are the Mahdi and the Gallic-Punic
Neptune of c.2.78(if they are not one and the same)
Meanwhile if we remember that the Antichrist of c.2.78 is of
Gallic-Punic stock then while claiming to be the fifth Hercules
he may also claim lordship over the 6th King of the South who has
not fallen and thus his is the 7th and the 5th as c.2.88 suggests
2.88
The circuit of the great ruinous deed,
The seventh name of the fifth will be:
Of a third greater the stranger warlike:
Sheep, Paris, Aix will not guarantee.
The second way : This one is completely radical is something I
just realized a few days ago. I know this is only my musing and
pondering but it satisfyingly paints a picture for me and I hope
it will do for you because it even seems to agree with
Nostradamus’ predictions . As I said the first thing is to
see what Nostradamus said of the New Babylon empire of the
Antichrist he said:
In
the spring there will be omens, and thereafter extreme changes,
reversals of realms and mighty earthquakes. These will be
accompanied by the procreation of the new Babylon, miserable
daughter enlarged by the abomination of the first holocaust. It
will last for only seventy-three years and seven months.
So here he says there will be omens, reversals of realms and
mighty earthquakes accompanied by the procreation of the new
Babylon he calls her ‘miserable
daughter’ it is the whore of Rev 17:3-5 while Zachariah 5:6-11
talks of this woman in a basket waiting to release her at the
appointed time. This time is specifically called 70 years in
Isaiah 23: 15 which says:
“At
that time Tyre will be forgotten for 70 years ,the span of a
King’s life, but at the end of these 70 years, it will
happen to Tyre as in the song of the prostitute
-Take
a harp ,walk through the city O prostitute forgotten play the
harp well, sing many a song so that you will be remembered. At
the end of the 70 years the Lord will deal with tyre. She will
return to her hire as a prostitute and will ply her trade with
all the kingdoms of the face of the earth’
Ok so far Nostradamus is in concordance with scripture . Now look
closely at the dragon in Rev 12:3
‘Then
another sign appeared in heaven an enormous red dragon with 7
heads and 10 horns and seven crowns on his heads’
and Beast in Revelation 13:1-4
‘And
I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven
heads with 10 crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous
name. The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like
those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion.The dragon gave
the beast his power and his throne and great authority. One of
the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound,but the
fatal wound had been healed . The whole world was astonished and
followed the beast. Men worshiped the dragon because he had given
authority to the beast and they also worshiped the beast and
asked ‘who is like the beast ,who can make war against him?’
I noticed something very peculiar both beasts have 7 heads, but
while the dragon has his heads all crowned, the beast has his
horns crowned instead. This means the crowns on the heads
represent the ruler ship or title while the horns are the
individual leaders.Well you may say why not the other way around
.. One reason is the wounded head on my opinion is the wounded
kingdom where the horn of Daniel 7:8 is uprooting three.
The second reason is because in Daniel we are always told of
weeks or groups of 7 years where something happens.In Revelation
itself there are 7 seals, 7 trumpets and 7 bowls that got me
thinking on an idea that merges and marries all the prophecy into
one complete whole. Nostradamus talks of a triumvirate ruling for
7 years after the war with the Dog of Dogam also Ezekiel 39:9
also speaks of a 7 year period of peace after the Gog Magog war
and so my guess has shifted from looking at the 7 heads as
kingdoms to looking at the heads as 7 year terms of rulership on
the Antichrist empire. Now the most important and simple fact to
consider is the 70 year prophecy of Isaiah 23: 15. Here we can
easily and comfortably divide the 70 years into 7 periods of 10.However
I will say that following Nostradamus’ epistle of the
triumvirate the first 7 years of the 70 are ruled by 3 kings, the
next 7 and this is my own interpretation have a ruler break the
new tradition and so begin single rulerships of 7 years ,for
example the king of Aquilon who falls after 11 years could be
attempting to wrest sole control for 2 seven year terms. Anyway
so by a rough calculation to make sense of everything , I
attempted to count the first triumvirate of 7 years and the next
6 seven year terms under one or two rulers i.e first triumvirate
(7 years long) and the next 6 (42 years long)… a total of 49
years encompasses the wars between the north and south in Daniel
11. Now to the big and fascinating break through in my opinion is
when the emphasis on Triumvirates comes back on in the last 3
sevens (21 years). Here is where again Nostradamus could be right
when he mentions the Antichrist ruling for 25 years he is simply
off by 4 years, because I believe for the last 3 seven year terms
(21 years) the Antichrist shall be a co equal ruler among another
2. In the first two terms making 6 heads ruling and (if he is
factored out- while we assume his counterparts keep changing they
will be a total of 4 in those 14 years and 6 after all 3 terms/21
years are complete) . Notice in Rev 6 the seals have 4 horsemen,
then in Rev 9 the Trumpets have 4 angels at the Euphrates both
examples come before the Antichrist makes an appearance in Rev 11.
While in Rev 16:13 three spirits come out of the dragon, beast
and false prophet to me this looks like 3 spirits each speaking
for one ‘week’ the first 7 years , the second 7 years
and the last 7. My opinion is that since the Dragon a spiritual
entity and is personified as having 7 heads then he is
personified in almost all the figures after the first triumvirate
even before the antichrist is born. Also in the book of
revelations there is continuous reiteration of 3 warnings for
example in Rev 14:6 an Angel warns people to worship God or face
judgment, then a second angel in Rev 14:8 says Babylon is Fallen
, then in Rev 14:9 the 3rd and last angel finally warns that if
anyone worships the beast or his image or receives the mark they
will be tortured in burning sulfur!! . This if broken down means
the first 7 years involves great apostasy and burning of bibles
as Nostradamus says, the second set involves great war and
surprisingly a hint is after taking the first 2 sevens(14 years)
and adding them to 49 we get 63 weeks…remember Daniel says
that after 62 weeks the anointed one will be cut off and in Rev
11:9 we see the outer court of the 3rd temple being controlled by
gentiles who will probably stop the daily sacrifice . The Bible
talks of 3 woes, why 3?? Again If you look closely at all those
they must happen during each of the last 3 seven year terms.In
the last 7 years the Antichrist finally gets tired of his co-rulers
and destroys them leaving himself alone as in Daniel 7:8
What is more which ever way you count it that last series of
triumvirates over 21 years fits the bible chronology precisely.
By the time the antichrist is born into the 10 horn empire of
Daniel 7:7 he arrives after 6 heads have ruled, he is the 7th,
while if you look at his co rulers especially if they are rotated
while he somehow remains in every 7-year term he is the 7th
during the last week. Moreover once he becomes sole ruler he
renews the count and so is one with the 7 but also the 8th!!!! I
now suspect his constant presence among co rulers over the years
will breed resentment and will definitely involve 3 to conspire
against him and so an attempt on his life is probably the reason
for the wound in Rev 13:3 or maybe when he fulfills the prophecy
of Daniel 7.8 (probably 42 months into his last tenure) and yet
manages to rule the world on his own this will cause astonishment.As
I said before he kills the witnesses and almost and
millions of faithful Christians and Jews during the last 3 and a
half years as evidenced in Rev 11:7-10.
So that is my analysis , I think it fits really well with any
prophecy I have seen so far and I think you would be pleased that
perhaps in the other 7 year terms you can fit a couple of other
leaders that Daniel fails to explicitly mention. I believe firmly
now that the Antichrist empire of Daniel 7:7 and Revelation 13
will last 70 years and will be marked by terrible wars as
evidenced in the seals and trumpets the only question is when do
we realize that it has began..I think the Ram Goat war of Daniel
makes the interpretation very concise, the only thing is not to
assume that the Antichrist comes immediately after the 4 new
horns, it could take decades but all prophecy shall be fulfilled
within the century of that war’s beginning.
As regards the pope fleeing…I agree with Werdin
d’Ordante , I believe the pope that flees will be the pope
during the 3rd world war with the 2nd antichrist. After the great
horned goat rejuvenates the church a few popes may follow albeit
in an age of constant war and apostasy if we are going by the 70
year prophecy of the prostitute in Isaiah 23. The great pope will
probably be the last real pope alongside the 3rd king of Aquilon
before the Antichrist of revelation 13 arrives.
I respect
your opinions Mike, they are the most well thought out I have
ever seen especially with compared to the very superficial
interpretations among respected scholars like John Hogue, Victor
Baines and Vincent Bridges . I agree with you just as you agree
with me you could be right indeed perhaps God has much more in
store for us than I anticipate. Certainly your interpretation is
more researched than even mine. You seem to have so many
prophecies to help you fill in the gaps. I try to stick to
biblical text as much as possible because I believe it is
infallible (though definitely quite vague at first glance). If
one checks through other books in the bible one can always find
fascinating details to back a prophecy with several others . I
make no reference to the figures of St. Methodius or St Bridget
of Sweden . I was pretty impressed by the one on your site about
the next 4 moon eclipses or tetrad occurring on Jewish feast days
in 2015. That is very very intriguing and ominous. I cannot wait
to read your complete book. I hope you read the one I sent you
it’s quite a fascinating read and if you check the youtube
links you will be intrigued at how much the Mahdi seems to be the
probable culprit of revelation. I do agree with your idea of WW3
and WW4 including Planet X making two passes during the 4th world
war though to me WW5 just seems a bridge too far J. In fact the
world wars have the capability of being extremely decimating and
so will probably not be as numerous as we think because for
example a world war followed immediately by a celestial
catastrophe is enough to turn any wars after into simple
skirmishes with smaller and smaller numbers of combatants. Though
as human we are very resilient and so if a world war 3 occurs I
would not put it past mankind to go at each other another time,
though in my reading once the Antichrist proper is on the scene
which I think
will be during WW4, God will come in at the end making that war
the last truly global war before the brief one after the 1000
years.
OK keep
in touch and tell me what you think , did you also see the Isaiah
Cyrus-Nostradamus Chyren similarities I found?( If you had a look
at those)
Take care
Angelo
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Hi Angelo,
In the Apocryphal book of 2 Esdras 11 we are given the succession
of the final emperors (kings) of a future empire. There are many,
but he mentions that some never even happen ... their reigns are
aborted in some manner, we must assume, or they are assassinated
before assuming power. Likewise, three of the ten horns in Daniel
7:8 seem to have several meanings: 1) they are the rulers of 10
kingdoms that the beast shall forge an empire out of, but the
first 3 kings he attempts to seduce will instead war against him
and he will kill and conquer them, 2) they are 10 kings who will
rule with the beast and confer with him for one hour durations as
described in Revelation, and three of them will be kings that
will replace the three that warred against him and he killed, 3)
they are three antichrists that are denied power. Thus, once
again, we have only seven antichrists (horns) in total, making
the beast ("little horn") the eighth. 4) Alternatively,
since Daniel's vision is of the end times, we might conclude that
the first three horns are historical, the three antichrists being
a) the leaders of the French Revolution (Robespierre and Danton),
and its beneficiery Napoleon, b) Nazi Germany under Hitler and
his allies, and c) the one of our age, which Daniel is focusing
on in Chapter 8 and 11, the King of Persia (Iran), Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei or their successors.
I mention kings being aborted before they can assume power. In
Esdras II we find this:
11:1
Then saw I a dream, and, behold, there came up from the sea an
eagle, which had twelve feathered wings, and three heads ...
11:11 And I numbered her contrary feathers, and, behold, there
were eight of them. 12 And I looked, and, behold, on the right
side there arose one feather, and reigned over all the earth; 13
And so it was, that when it reigned, the end of it came, and the
place thereof appeared no more: so the next following stood up.
and reigned, and had a great time; 14 And it happened, that when
it reigned, the end of it came also, like as the first, so that
it appeared no more. 15 Then came there a voice unto it, and said,
16 Hear thou that hast borne rule over the earth so long: this I
say unto thee, before thou beginnest to appear no more, 17 There
shall none after thee attain unto thy time, neither unto the half
thereof. 18 Then arose the third, and reigned as the other before,
and appeared no more also. 19 So went it with all the residue one
after another, as that every one reigned, and then appeared no
more. 20 Then I beheld, and, lo, in process of time the feathers
that followed stood up upon the right side, that they might rule
also; and some of them ruled, but within a while they appeared no
more: 21 For some of them were set up, but ruled not.
This theme of kings being set up, but not ruling, or being
devoured by a "head" before they are able to, is
repeated later in the prophecy. Thus, as Esdras indicates can
happen, three kings may have been destined to rule ("set up")
but did not because they declined power, died unexpectedly, or
were killed in a coup, battle, assassination, etc. Therefore, it
is possible that it was destined that 10 antichrists were to have
great power on this earth, but three were aborted in some manner
before they could assume power.
Yes, I do agree that the war of the beast (final antichrist), 27
years, need not equal his reign, 7 years. He could be involved in
a war before he comes to power. Indeed, in my book, and
it is in a sample chapter you read on my site,
I state that the beast will be at war with the king of the south
when he receives a wound in his eye. Also, even after the beast
assumes power, the war with the southern king continues for a
space until the beast is victorious. Of course, at the end of his
Epistle, the beast reigns for 25 years, not 27, so these can
still be two different antichrists: the beast (25 years) and an
earlier forerunner (27 years).
My reasoning for 27 years of war under a FOURTH antichrist again
is the Council of Nicaea dating of 2025 for the start of this war,
a conflict between Russia and Central Asia/Persia, and four years
past the Anno Mundi dating of 6000, which is 2048, as marking the
end of the war. The war is long, but it is not a world war until
Europe becomes involved in it in 2037 or 2038. Also, we are told
in prophecies that world war III will last only four years, not
27 years, thus it makes sense that the 27-year war will be world
war IV. More on that, but first:
Again, assuming that time is NOT being cut short by God so that
we are in fact in the final seven years of Tribulation right now,
I otherwise believe that Nostradamus has it right with his 2242-43
being the time of Armageddon (or less likely 2827). In his
Epistle to Henry II, Nostradamus says that he differs with the
historian Eusebius and his calculation of 5199 BC as the Creation
of Adam. Nostradamus shows through his presentation of biblical
chronology and recorded history that he believed the date to be
4757 BC or 4758 BC. Add seven thousand years this date, and you
arrive at either 2242 or 2243 AD.
Later in his Epistle he gives a different Creation year: 4173 BC
(and eight months). Adding seven thousand years to this would
give us an altenative future Armageddon of 2826 or 2827 AD.
Why add 7,000 years?
In the Preface to Cesar he gives humanity a total of seven
thousand years before God comes from the eighth sphere to usher
in an eighth millennium, telling Cesar that they, in the year
1555, were already living in the seventh millenary (which would
be true if the seventh millennium began in 1242-43 and ended in
2242-43):
According
to the visible judgment of the stars, although we are in the
seventh number of the millenary which finishes all, we are
approaching the eighth, which is in the firmament of the eighth
sphere, which in a latitudinary dimension, from whence the great
god eternal will come to complete the revolution.
Thus, according to the Prophet, Heaven lies in a parallel
dimension. When the end comes, God will slip through the rift
between dimensions and set up His kingdom to reign with mankind.
To a Christian, this reign will commence in the person of a
returned Jesus Christ, although in other religions this may be a
different figure (such as the Hopi Indian Pahana) or God Himself.
Nostradamus goes on to say in this preface that the stars and
planets will return to their normal course in the heavens through
the will of the Creator, and that time will pass normally,
although he also says time will pass through the discretion of
God during the eighth millennium and beyond, which implies that
it can last less than 1,000 years or more than a thousand years.
This makes sense when we note that the physical world comes to an
end in the year 3797, which either indicates earth's destruction
midway through a ninth cycle beginning in 3243 or else a longer
than 1,000 year millennium (from 2243 to 3797 which is over 1,500
years).
I am sorry to be straying a bit off course, but this could
explain the prophecies, some to be found in American Indian
prophecy, St. Hildegard and Melanie Calvet, and also in Islamic
prophecy, about Time becoming shorter and shorter during the time
of the bleeding stars, red star in the east, Antichrist or Dajjal.
Thus, we see a year become like a month, and a month like a week,
and so on:
Islamic
Prophecy
Dajjal will remain in the earth for 40 years, a year being like a
month, a month like a week, a week being like a day, a day like
the time it takes to burn a palm branch.
The
Tiburtine Sybill
The years will be shortened like months, the months like weeks,
the weeks like days, the days like hours, and an hour like a
moment.
Thus, during the final years of our millennium, Time will cease
to function in the way we understand it. This may mean a black
hole will come near to our solar system. Even if Nostradamus is
right about 2242-43 being the actual time of Armageddon and the
end of the seventh millennium, the calendar may well read 2230 or
something like that. But, as he tells Cesar, God will restore
Time to its normal passage when the eighth sphere is entered.
Regarding the 41 years you say I mentioned, I actually wrote 21
years.
This is where I was referring to the silence in Heaven for a half
an hour. That would actually be 1/48 of 1,000 or 20.833 years (roughly
21 years) ... not 41 years. If the coming third world war ends in
2015 or 2016 (2011 + 4 = 2015 or 2012 + 4 = 2016), then 21 years
later is either 2036 or 2037: 2036 the year Apophis may strike
Earth on April 13 and 2037 the year Jeane Dixon believed a fourth
world war (led by the antichrist) would begin. I do not believe
Dixon's "antichrist" is truly the beast she believed
him to be but, more likely, a major Arab leader who befriends the
West and becomes the enemy of the fourth antichrist (the Arab
friend who I believe may be the son of Moammar Gadhafi, Saef al-Islam).
Remember that Nostradamus says "the African faith will be
broken in the Orient" (Quatrain 2.60); thus Africa and
Arabia will be at war with the rest of Muslim Asia. Furthermore,
all of Africa will be united under this great leader (I believe
Daniel's first king of the south is Moammar Gadhafi, and his son,
Saef al-Islam, shall be his prince, one who shall become greater
than he). By this time, the African Union will become a united
Africa. Otherwise, if this great Arab Jeane Dixon is prophesying
is not Gadhafi fils,
then this may well be someone not yet known, an Arab who will be
the "transmigration of the Holy Spirit" Nostradamus
prophesied in his Epistle and the messiah whose sign appears in
the sky in 2034 and then assumes command in 2040 predicted by Max
Toth in his Great Pyramid prophecies. Also the Catholic
prophecies I mentioned that used a combination of feast days to
arrive at a future date for world war III agree with the year
2038, but place the messianic leader's appearance in 2041.
Thus the year 2037 is passed in Heaven thusly:
Revelation
8:5-6
And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the
altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and
thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven
angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
This could be the angel casting Apophis into the Earth. Angels
casting asteroids or giant meteors at Earth are in many places
and most significantly before the destruction of Mystery, Babylon:
Revelation
18:21
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and
cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great
city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
For at this time, according to this prophecy, America (and the
city New York) will become a great burden to the world, just as
Israel is becoming now. Thus, the symbolisation of the "great
millstone." It is both a giant meteor and a great burden the
angel casts into the ocean.
Then the seven trumpets sound and the war that was largely an
Asian-Russian war in the 2020s will suck in Europe, Africa, the
Middle East, the United States, and much of the world, becoming a
global war in 2038.
Then the nuclear missiles begin to fly in Rev 8:7:
The
first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled
with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part
of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Regarding the persecution of the clergy under the Kings of the
North, my personal view is that this is a far future alliance
between Russia and the German-Scandinavian nations following the
war of Gog, Prince of Magog. The Oriental kings will be those who
will turn against Gog (the leader from "beyond great Tartary,"
which can only be China, more exactly Xinjiang province, which is
Muslim) and ally with the West and with the North. If I
referenced Hitler, it was only to see how he might work instead
of these remote future kings along the lines of your viewpoint.
But, for me, the passage about the chief Northern king and the
united Southern one is nothing less than the genesis of war (and
broken treaties) between the king of the north and the king of
south as prophesied by Daniel in Chapter 11. And, again, I do not
believe this will occur until the early 2200s, nor end until
around 2238 during the reign of the beast. Unless, of course, God
has decided to shorten the time ahead and we end up seeing all
these events crunched together over a period of the next seven
years ... which is something He has the power to do anytime.
I have no problems with the four horsemen also representing four
kingdoms. There is also something concerning the four beasts who
sit before the throne of God I will discuss one day, but not yet.
Nor will I the seven thunders and their secrets, but I will in
good time (although I have revealed one of them on my site).
Suffice it to say, that 4 is a far more important number than you
might realise. It does not surprise me that may represent not
only four horsemen commanded to come upon this planet, but the
four great empires, and even four antichrists (with three earlier
antichrists "plucked up" by abortion of their power or
rendered irrelevent by their deeds or the fact that they belong
to an earlier history preceding the vision of Revelation, as
Hitler was).
Take Barack Obama for example. He is quite powerful; but if he
were to die suddenly, or after completing his first term of
office, and all he has left as his legacy is the raising of taxes,
the printing of more and more useless money, and finding new and
clever ways to continue reducing payments, pensions, and benefits
to those who who need them most, he will not be remembered as an
antichrist. Instead, he will end up being the following figure (or
at least an archetype of this person):
Daniel
11:20
Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory
of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed,
neither in anger, nor in battle.
Thus, here is an example of a potential antichrist being aborted
before he can truly fulfill his destiny as an antichrist ...
assuming, of course, that this actually happens.
As for recent history, John F Kennedy is a classic case of a
potential antichrist being denied his power through assassination.
Oh yes, and getting back to historical antichrists rendered no
longer relevent because they preceded the seventh millennium
Nostradamus says began in 1242-43, there is always Caligula, Nero,
and Diocletian.
As for Revelation repeating the same themes 3 times over, I
disagree. The events are quite linear from beginning to end.
There are a few similar events repeated, and this confuses people.
Take for example the seas, the rivers and waters turning to blood
in Revelation 8:8-11 and, again, in Revelation 16:3-4. But note,
in Rev 8, only 1/3 of the seas and 1/3 of the rivers and waters
turn to blood; however, in Rev 16, ALL the seas and rivers and
waters turn to blood (100%) ... and worse, like the blood of a
dead man. In Revelation 8:7, 1/3 of the grass, trees and all
green things are burned up by fiery hail, and this precedes
immediately 1/3 of the seas and 1/3 of the rivers and waters
turning to blood, yet this is not repeated in Rev 16 immediately
before 100% of the sea and the waters become like decomposing
blood. Instead, what precedes is that "there fell a noisome
and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast,
and upon them which worshipped his image."
There is also a literary device known as foreshadowing used. For
example, the souls of the saints become impatient in Revelation 6
and we are introduced to the concept of persecution and death at
the behest of the yet future false prophet:
Revelation
6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the
souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the
testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice,
saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and
avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes
were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them,
that they should rest yet for a little season, until their
fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as
they were, should be fulfilled.
We see them again in the presence of God and the angels and hear
of this coming persecution and mass sacrifice in Revelation 7:13-15:
What
are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These
are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed
their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day
and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall
dwell among them.
Now it is called 'tribulation', yet it is still in the future.
Until, of course, we get to Revelation 13:15-17 where of the
false prophet it is prophesied:
And
he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the
image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as
would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he
causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond,
to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And
that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Other mention of this later in the vision becomes past and
present, for it has already happened and is still in progress
until the Second Coming itself. After that, any mention of
persecution is completely past tense.
There is a little more foreshadowing: the 144,000 are sealed in
Rev 7 but are not actually raptured until Rev 14; Rev 14 also
glimpses ahead to the destruction of Babylon in Rev 18; Rev 14
also refers back to Rev 13 and the mark of the beast and warns
what will happen later in Revelation to those who take the mark;
Rev 14 also glimpses ahead to the Second Coming and how deep the
blood will get during the battle of Armageddon. It's all
foreshadowing, for the events themselves happen later.
Revelation 14 probably is one of the chapters that confuses many
people and causes them to think events earlier (the 144,000 being
sealed) and events later (everything else I mentioned) are being
repeated. But it is not so.
Also, we must remember that 7 is God's perfect number. It is used
for many reasons, and is the basis for how Time itself works.
When people see 7 seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 vials they are even
more confused. Still, all six of the seven seals are fulfilled;
the seventh seal is fulfilled when the seven trumpets begin to
sound in succession, the seventh trumpet is not fulfilled until
the seventh vial and all of its judgements on those who live on
earth are completed in the Battle of Armageddon.
Nostradamus' Epistle is actually one sequence of events after the
introductory material to the King which includes the date of
creation as 4757 BC or 4758 BC. Once begun, it is only is
abandoned once to discuss other matters concerning the
alternative date of Creation as 4173 BC (and eight months) and
some "past" history the Prophet neglected to place in
the sequence (the French Revolution, the rise of Mussolini's
Italy, and then Mussolini's death, Hitler's and Laval's in 1945)
and a glimpse ahead at the future Antichrist or beast during a
time of great deluge (Daniel also says that the beast will come
to power with the overflowing of a flood). Then he resumes his
place with the Northern kings and completes the prose prophecy.
Yes, I agree it is possible that all events up to the measuring
of the Third Temple in Rev 11 could happen in a space of 3 1/2
years. It is possible. But then again, just because the beast
reigns in war for 42 months and then in peace for another 42
months (plus one final month as Armageddon is prepared and then
waged) does not mean that all the events prior to Rev 11 happen
exclusively during the first half of the beast's reign. Indeed,
the beast is not even introduced until Rev 13, two chapters later.
Thus, Rev 11 may simply mean that the Temple is built, but looks
ahead to when it will be trampled over by the Gentiles during the
last 42 months of the beast's reign when he enters it and
declares himself greater than God Himself. Indeed, it is even
possible the beast will only reign for 42 months and not for 7
years. Ergo, all the events that occur before Rev 13 could occur
over a period of 7 years, 49 years, 70 years, 200 years, or even
700 years.
And the difficult part of all this is how Time is reckoned by
then. Above I mention the prophecies that state at the time of
the final Antichrist Time will contract. To those who dwell on
Earth, especially if we are caught moving towards a black hole,
Time will seem to pass normally more or less, at least until some
kind of saturation point is reached. So when we say 42 months or
7 years, what exactly do we mean? 40 months that will seem like
40 years or vice versa? Plus rapidly reducing months, weeks, and
days giving us the extra two "months." Or will the
actual time be some other figure only known to God, but to Man
will seem 42 months or 7 years? Maybe Nostradamus has it right
when he says in his Epistle to Henry II that "Antichrist,
the Infernal Prince," will reign for 25 years. Thus, 25
years may pass to humans like 42 months or 7 years, depending on
which figure you believe (7 years or 42 months). Ot it may seem
to us like 25 years, even if it passes in 42 months/7 years.
Some more of what you say I think I have answered or argued
against so far, not sure.
In the Epistle, the three brothers are "princes" born
of a great queen (dame). She is "sterile" because her
line will cease with the deaths of her four children. The eldest
prince even has a coat-of-arms that is distinctively British (the
eldest "first" will occupy the furious crowned lions
with their paws resting upon intrepid arms). These three princes
also have a sister who turns down co-rule "of the three and
four parts of Europe" and gives it to her son. My goodness,
if these people do not sound familiar! Sadly, Nostradamus does
confuse the great lady's identity. Princess Diana was the great
lady "in danger of death" from the very start when she
met Charles at age 18, her death finally arriving at age 36. And
Diana did conceive "two principal children," William
and Harry. But it will be the other "great lady," Queen
Elizabeth II, who will leave behind three sons and a daughter:
Charles, Andrew, Edward, and Anne. This is in the future yet,
since the Queen remains alive and well.
The youngest son will "sustain and augment the Christian
monarchy." I doubt that Prince Edward has any intention of
becoming pope, so I believe this sacred monarchy to be imperial
in nature, thus a future head of the EU when the title of emperor
becomes its highest office after the brief reign of Chyren/Chiren
(Chiren not mentioned in the Epistle at all because the Queen
will not die until around time of Chiren's death).
Count the number of children who rule: three princes and the son
of a princess. The son of Princess Anne is Peter Philips.
These are the "four notable ones" who take over Europe
after the first horn of the he-goat becomes mighty and dies (Chiren/Chyren).
Why are the three brothers divided? Maybe along the lines of
religion. Charles is pro-Muslim and would make everyone in
Britain a Muslim. Edward it is said will be the Christian monarch.
The second brother's religion is not mentioned. He may simply be
considered as sectarian and not particularly religious, lest he
is a closet pagan. It is cleaer by what follows that a religious
war develops during the latter years of their rule. This, in turn,
may set up Europe for world war IV in 2038, although they die
several years beforehand. My guess is that these limited wars
involving Arabs will happen sometime between 2025 and 2038: part
of the overall 27-year war.
The first horseman merely goes forth to conquer. He is no hero,
but is commanded by God to do this. Thus, I continue with my
belief that the conquering ram that Daniel resolves is led by a
fourth "king of Persia" in Chapter 11 is also the the
white conqueror of the first seal. He is our first modern
antichrist, one for our time, after the last historic one Hitler.
This time is special is why. When the Persian declares war,
"the time of the end" period of the "latter days"
will truly begin. As for the "latter days," they began
when the age of our current technology began replacing the
Industrial Age (begun 1750) ... about 1979-1982. It is
interesting to note that 1979 is when the Shah of Iran fell and
the current mullah regime took power under Ayatollah Khomeini.
The next stage begins when the King of Persia (iran) declares war
on Greece and the EU. Greece has replaced Turkey as a strategic
military ally of Israel. So now we know why Iran will declare war
on Greece and why "Grecia" is no longer a potential
metaphor for the EU, but is indeed Greece itself. Still, since so
many "beasts" (nations) fall as the ram moves north,
south, and west, we can deduce that not only the Middle East, but
Turkey (because it will no longer be aligned with Iran by that
time, waffling in its loyalties in fact according to Nostradamus,
and blocking the way into Europe), Greece, the other Balkans
nations, and at least southern Europe will be invaded. The rest
of Europe will go to the Medes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkemenistan,
Uzbekistan, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Russia too since
part of the Median empire stretched into territory Ukraine and
Russia now rule).
I understand that you are rooting for the "king of the west"
or he-goat with the notable horn as being this conqueror. I have
often times wondered if that may be the case. And you know, in
the end it really doesn't matter does it? Because both figures,
the ram and he-goat, are at war with each other and co-exist
during the same moment in future history. However, the prophecy
says that the "king of the west" will do "according
to his own will." He will not be commanded to do what he
shall do. But the white horseman in Revelation, the first seal,
is commanded to go and conquer. For his entire purpose is thus:
"and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." The he-goat
from the west has another purpose: to destroy the conqueror and
his armies, and to liberate Europe and to establish a new order
there. Thus, I go with the first horseman being the Persian
conqueror.
I agree with what you say about the second seal, War, being
linked with the Pope who dies three leagues (nine miles) from the
Rhone River (not Rome). Thus, in Avignon. Remember that
Nostradamus says the Pope will change his land (flee Rome and the
Vatican) when "the great star" (Planet X?) blazes for
seven days and nights. Where will he escape to? The Vatican moved
to Avignon during the 12th Century in 1309 and remained there
until 1377. The castles and cathedrals still stand, waiting, for
the day when the papacy returns to France in exile.
The two leagues nearest flee the oppressed
Tarascan monster: invading Muslim armies
kill one million French fleeing to Lyon according to Nostradamus.
Tarascon is a town 14 miles south of Avignon. Millions more will
end up dead later, imprisoned, executed, enslaved, exiled, or on
the move as refugees.
The allies: the Cock (France), the Eagle (Germany or the US), the
three brothers (Great Britain).
The brother second in age I have already identified. He will be
given rule of Italy, which is why he is "accompanied by the
Latins." This war event will likely occur sometime between
the 2025-2038 timeframe, most probably in the early 2030s, so it
can be considered an early stage of world war IV prior to the
point when Europe is at war with "Attila" and "Xerxes."
Again, this is a regional war between the three Windsor brothers
and royal nephew (Anne's son, Peter) when they become "the
four notable ones."
Once you know who the three brothers really are, the whole idea
of applying the four beasts representing the four kingdoms to
this scenario flies out the window. However, I grant that the
four horsemen remain pertinent.
The next sections of the Epistle you mention are about leaders
yet to follow.
"And
on the eve of another desolation ..."
Now you have not only skipped ahead beyond
the end of world war IV, but even beyond the "great peace"
that follows under a king "who proceeds from the 50th degree"!
As Daniel says of the mighty horn's empire, "for his
kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those" (those being the "four winds of
heaven" otherwise called the four notable ones,
four notable horns, etc). Daniel is actually not getting into the
details of world war IV or the great peace that follows, only to
say that empire will be ruled by "others" after the
four notable ones. Then he goes straight into the first king of
the south and his prince. He does mention that his prince will be
quite powerful in the south, moreso than his father, but not that
he will also become quite popular in the west as well as the
south and will ally with the west against the "great Empire
of Antichrist" in the East. I guess Daniel was allowed to
leave that to later prophets like Jeane Dixon and Nostradamus.
Next Daniel skips
ahead from there to "the latter days of their
kingdom" (of the south) and new southern kings and
northern kings too. I'd say he skips ahead roughly 160 years.
That is because the beginning of the vision of Chapter 11 is
merely to set things up, essentially to establish the events of
the beginning. The main focus after that is the last roughly 30
years of history culminating in Armageddon.
Nostradamus, on the other hand, fills in that period very nicely.
Why you skip backwards to "the daughter will be given
for the preservation of the Christian Church" is beyond me. It
makes responding to you quite difficult because I move linearly
and you are starting to jump around. Princess Anne's son, Peter,
will be the pagan then. In the quatrains the royal nephew takes
over Spain, Germany, and Italy (Italy from his now-dead uncle
Andrew) and becomes hated. Anne's other child, Zara, becomes a
great Catholic.
Yes, once "the great Empire of the Antichrist" descends
into Europe, world war IV will escalate horribly, Planet X will
come a second time (Mother Shipton: "the gods will
send the dragon back"), and all four horsemen will
finally be in place, although for my money I think all will be in
place by the end of world war III. Actually, by this time, Planet
X will return as Wormwood and cause the pole shift in October
2044.
I agree that Europe will be attacked twice. The first "invasion"
by Arabs will be repelled. The second one by Attila/Xerxes will
not be. A period of occupation of four years will end, however,
with the war of liberation involving the "trransmigration of
the Holy Spirit" starting in 2048, completed by 2052.
Meshach and Tubal are indeed representing modern Turkey. But Gog
is much later: he is the great "Dog of Dogam" (Gog,
land of Magog). After a long peace, this character who will arise,
I believe, in Xinjiang or even farther to the east, will be the
third manifestation of the "barbarian empire" (the
first two being "the ram/king of persia" and the second
being "Attila/Xerxes" (Central Asia and Iran). He will
come "from beyond great Tartary," descend through
Russia, and leave his bloody sceptre in Byzantium (Turkey). Gog,
after all, is "chief prince of Meshach and Tubal."
I do not include Jean Paul Marat as part of the first antichrist
because he was opposed to those who were carrying out the
atrocities and opposed to having King Louis XVI executed. He
would have purged the brute elements from his new republic had he
lived. Instead he was murdered the month the Reign of Terror
began. Come on Angelo, you must have wondered why I left Marat
out. It was no oversight.
Our views are quite divurgent. I have been writing since 9 PM
last night; it is now 12:29 PM (half past noon) the next day. I
am tired. I can see no point in covering the rest of your
material for two reasons 1) somewhere the answers, opinions,
arguments against are already mentioned above and 2) I simply do
not want to re-write my entire book in this letter as a reply.
I think it best that I post the remaining chapters of my book on
my site and you will understand how things work for me ...
assuming Nostradamus is right and the world as we know it, good
and bad, and worse than we have ever known before (and also
better for a time), really does not end until 2242-43 or 2826-27.
Again, I must say you have thought this well out, and some of
what you propose may be right, or I may be more wrong than I know
... but you are someone who has a lot to say. And you have more
and more to add (I could not read the book attachment because I
cannot read PDF files). I think you should write a book or
publish your own website. Really.
I will address your other email, but this is it for now. I am
exhausted and I have much to do with my website.
If you choose to continue may I suggest focusing a few points
with each letter (and don't inundate me with letters, please ...
I have another guy who has emailed me with a chapter length
series of questions I also have to reply to). One email at a time,
make it much briefer. When I answer, feel free to send another.
I must get some sleep now (LOL).
Talk to you later.
Kind regards,
Mike
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