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December 12th 2012

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Ross
To:
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: December 12th 2012

Hi Mike,

I just wondered what your thoughts are on the Mayan prophecy of December 12th 2012 also did Nostradamus say anything about this time ?

All I can find out is that the earth will be in the centre of the universe...all the plants will be inline and the " cycle " will be complete.

Have you thought about making a page on the Mayan Prophecy or can you give me more information ?

I have read that Nostradamus, Edgar Casey, and Mother Shipton all point to the date as being a major change for humanity or even the end of the earth.

Also another intresting fact that I read somewhere was that the Mayan tribes Aztec Calendar that supposedly highly accurate and prophetic was written in the year 3797bc, I dont know if this is true but I do know that Nostradamus named the year 3797 in his prophecies.

Anyway I just wondered what your thoughts are on the subject and if you would share them with me.

Many Thanks,

Ross.
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Hi Ross,

All I know about the Mayan calendar "end date" of December 21, 2012 is that it is alleged by modern Internet/media doomsayers to mark the end of time, the end of human history, etc. In fact it marks only the end of a cycle. What these people fail to tell you is that on December 22, 2012 the calendar continues and a new cycle begins.

Are the planets all aligned at that time? I don't know, haven't done the research ... the Mayan perspective seems to be rather unique anyway since no other civilisation or religion warns or has warned about the significance of 2012.

Edgar Cayce may have warned about 2012 in his writings, I don't know. I have never read them all since they are quite extensive and certainly not all concern themselves with prophecy. However, what I do recall Cayce warning about was that earth changes would reach a horrifying crescendo in 1998-2000 and that 2001 would see the earth shifting its axis ... and if it did not do so in 2001, that "a new cycle will begin." How long would the "new cycle" be? He doesn't say.

Nostradamus and Mother Shipton say absolutely nothing about 2012 as far as I know.

I don't know about the Mayan's calendar beginning in the year 3797 BC. Never heard of that one. But Nostradamus did say the physical destruction of our planet would occur in 3797 AD.

I get the feeling right there that some people are taking bits and pieces of other prophecies, like Nostradamus' 3797 AD prophecy above, and trying to attach them in some way to the whole Mayan thing.

The only other thing I have heard about the Mayan year 2012 is that mankind's machines, appliances, etc are supposed to rise up against us, attacking us and rebuking us for all our wrong-doings. Or maybe that is another Central/South American indian prophecy.

No, there is not enough material to justify a "Mayan Prophecy" page that I can see.

Even so, I will have two series of 2012 pages up in the near future (and 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 too).

Sorry if I sound less than enthusiastic about the Mayan calendar prophecy. Actually, in a way, they will be right I suppose: according to the base 7 system, 2012 will be a very horrible year if we manage to survive 2009.

Take care,

Mike

 

Sincerely Concerned

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
T
To:
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: Sincerely Concerned

I am very concerned because your site is something my good friend is reading every day and is very scared and upset about. He is panicking daily worrying about a prediction coming true. Every day he runs as far away from this city as he can and then comes back and does it all over again the next day. I know that you have the best intentions but how can I or you assure him that there is reason to panic and run every day? I really need your advice on this because he is very scared and so am I -- for him.

Thanks so much.
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Dear T,

There are very good reasons why he should not panic.

For one thing, not everything that is predicted will come true. Whilst I may have been right about the stock market, the invasion of Georgia by Russia, look at Hillary Clinton: predictions, such as mine, that she would win the presidency failed, and some very major figures in prediction (such as John Hogue) were also absolutely certain she would. What is more there was established prophecy, such as the tenth prophecy of William Branham (with the first nine prophecies successfully fulfilled since they were made in 1933), that indicated a woman would win the election and be supported by the women's vote. Not only did Hillary fail to win, but even Sarah Palin failed to win the vice presidency.

The future can be changed. That is the point of my website being there. It is not to say "Look at all the horrible things that will happen and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it," but rather, "look what might happen if we or our leaders are careless and nothing is done to change it."

Aside from collective and individual responsibility for what happens in the future, however, there are times things just do not happen because the time is simply not right.

I hope you understand the subtle difference between predictions and prophecies. Anyone can predict the future using various kinds of systems, such as astrology or numerology. Prophecy, on the other hand, is allegedly divine revelation of the future by God or some other deity, angel, supernatural figure, etc. I make predictions calculated by close examination of how God's perfect number, 7, has been involved in past events recurring at intervals of 7 years or multiples of 7 years ( such as 14, 21, 28, 35 etc). What I project is a likelihood of an event occurring at a certain time as opposed to a prophecy of an event that will happen for certain some day. Sometimes, however, I will see cases where a prophecy could support my prediction and will make mention of it. That still doesn't mean I will be right.

In any event, the following is true about the future:

1) The future is not fixed

2) Most predictions of events made using a system can be changed or prevented from happening, some events will fail to occur at all if the timing is wrong, many events that do happen can be mitigated

3) The strongest prophecies, such as Bible prophecies, are not even dated ... thus we are always guessing or estimating when they will be fulfilled based on other clues

4) The strongest prophecies, such as those in the Book of Revelation, will happen some day ... but the outcome of those events that are prophesied can be changed or mitigated

I will leave you with a famous quote from a book which I often use to illustrate the truth about future events:

The nineteenth century novelist Charles Dickens seeks to assure his readers that the future is not set in stone, literally, in A Christmas Carol when the central character Ebenezer Scrooge is shown his very own headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future and queries in great dread and trepidation:
'Are these the shadows of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you show me!'

Scrooge gets his answer when the spectre beckons again and Scrooge finds himself alive and well in his bedchamber ... with many years of a good and happier life still remaining to him.

Mike

 

Promised Warrior?

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
David
To:
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: Promised Warrior?

Mike

Here's a relevant prophecy from sources most Christians would ignore. However, in my search for the truth I look at all sources good or bad, because there is bad in the good and good in the bad. So consider the following:

When Barack Hussein Obama (Barry Soetoro) went to mosques he sited the prayer in Arabic, Allah is repeated many times in the ritual.

Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.

Following are some of the attributes of the 12th Imam Mahdi (= Antichrist?) according to their own Islamic sources. Christians should note that the resemblance to the Antichrist is striking to say the least:

1. He will appear suddenly near the end of time in Mecca.

2. He will be descended from Mohammed.

3. He will stutter.

4. He will shine like an Israelite.

5. He will unite and reform the Muslims.

6. He will have a mole on his left or right cheek.

7. His eyebrows will mix.

8. He will rule Islam from Jerusalem for 7 years. Note that according to Scripture, Antichrist rules the world from Jerusalem for seven years.

9. He will have hundreds of close companions including Elijah, Elisha, the Seven Sleepers, and al-Khidr.

10. His coming will be announced by earthquakes, sea storms, and a fire over the sky of Basra.

11. He will be a fanatical Muslim.

12. Mahdi the archaeologist: He is called the guided one because he will be guided to the place of the Ark. He will find the Ark of the Covenant. A group of Jews and Christians will come to debate him. Just as they declare victory, he will produce a copy of the real Bible from the Ark. The Jews and Christians will then admit that Islam was right all long and convert. Some will refuse and be subsequently beheaded. Note that beheading is Antichrist's preferred method of execution according to Revelation.

13. A mountain of gold will be discovered under the Euphrates.

14. The people of Iraq will help him.

15. The world will love him. Note that the world will marvel after Antichrist.

16. He will have a gap between his tooth.

17. He will receive guidance and knowledge from Allah.

18. He will be helped by Jesus. Note that Antichrist will be helped by the Beast. Despite the fact that Jesus is a messenger of Allah and Mahdi is only a caliph of Allah, Jesus will pray behind Mahdi.

19. He will be charismatic, young, and very handsome. Half the women of Rome will convert to Islam in the hope of joining his harem. But Antichrist lacks the desire of women.

20. He will fill the world with peace and justice.

21. A great army will march against him in Syria. However, the earth will open up and swallow this army. Scripture calls Antichrist the Assyrian.

22. He will receive aid from the East. Mohammed reportedly said, "Many armies will come after me. You must join the one from Khorasan. That is the army of the caliph."

23. Mahdi must battle Gog, Magog, and Dajjal; the Islamic Antichrist.

24. He will be beardless.

25. He will be rich and will give wealth to the people of the world freely. He will cause crops to grow. Antichrist and Beast will have great power on earth.

26. His personality will be similar to Mohammed's.

Sincerely
David
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Dear David,

It is far from certain that Barack Obama is or ever was a Muslim:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6084678.html

excerpt from:

 

UT poll shows McCain, Cornyn with comfortable margins
Poll finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim
Obama is a Christian who was embroiled in a controversy earlier this year about his two-decade membership in Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Yet just 45 percent of those polled identified the Illinois senator as a Protestant.
The Obama-is-a-Muslim confusion is caused by fallacious Internet rumors and radio talk-show gossip. McCain went so far at one of his town hall meetings to grab a microphone from a woman who claimed that Obama was an Arab.
The Texas numbers are unusual because most national polls show that just 5 to 10 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim — less than half the number of Texans who buy into the debunked theories ...

 

It is possible that Barack Obama may be the "tall black man (who) will assume the reins of government in the West" commanding "the strongest army on earth" ... but at least some of the rest is unlikely.

... Not unless Obama makes a special peace with the Muslim world and brings about a rapprochement with Iran. He could, after all, be a good friend to the Muslim world without actually being a Muslim himself.

Before I discuss the personification of the beast/Antichrist aspect of this allow me to remind you what I think you probably may agree to be true: for endtime prophecy to be fulfilled all the right conditions must be met. Not one detail can fail to occur. It is for this reason we have witnessed a string of major national leaders or world leaders over the centuries that have fit the role of the beast, yet have failed to fulfill the destiny of the personification as prophesied in the Book of Revelation and in the Book of Daniel.

Every generation the powers that be attempt to promote a candidate, a man, who will fulfill this role. As we have seen history demonstrate, sometimes these candidates work against the interests of TPTB and are killed. President John F. Kennedy was a good example of this. When he gave a speech about the existence of secret societies and how his administration would not tolerate the existence of such societies or their secret proceedings, he was sending a message to TPTB that he would not follow their dictates or grand designs but rule according to his own will, by the letter of the law, and with the nation's best interests at heart, first and foremost. Because of this he was assassinated.

Past would-be antichrists like Hitler could not succeed in fulfilling the destiny of the beast because the other players, such as the false prophet, were not in place. Not all the chesspieces were available for the match, in other words.

The Book of Revelation, like the pertaining chapters in the Book of Daniel, is like a recipe book: it has to be fulfilled detail by detail from Revelation 1 all the way to Revelation 13 (the chapter in which the beast appears). During the last 2000 years there have been several notable close calls for "the great earthquake" that follows the opening of the sixth seal. For example the eruptions of Vesuvius, Krakatau, Tambora, Pelee and the asteroid explosion at Tunguska came close to fulfilling this prophecy because of the widespread tsunamis, tidal waves, firestorms, strong winds, strange atmospheric effects, and climate changes, yet all of these still fell considerably short. Also, all events and personifications that follow from Revelation 14 through Revelation 18 and in the Book of Daniel must occur.

When someone appears to fufill a personality out of endtime prophecy, but not all the other conditions are being met, we call this person an archetype. Antiochus Epiphanes was the earliest archetype for the beast/Antichrist because he lived at the wrong time: he lived and died long before Christ was even born and not during the latter days or time of the end. Napoleon and Hitler were archetypes because other conditions in the Books of Revelation and Daniel were not met. When JFK became president he met certain requirements. The famous actress Marilyn Monroe also may have been the first real attempt to create a personification of the whore of Babylon. Yet, no personification for the false prophet existed. Perhaps there was a search for such a personality in progress. If one was found, we will never know. Monroe and Kennedy became expendable and were both assassinated because they rebelled against TPTB and threatened to expose them.

Nevertheless, Marilyn Monroe and John F Kennedy were archetypes for the whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 and the beast of Revelation 13. Had these two followed their programming, Monroe might have married into the Kennedy family via Bobby Kennedy and become political. As a future first lady, she could have become the "queen of Babylon" of Revelation 18, combining the roles of both the WOB and QOB.

Today Madonna is the archetype for the whore of Babylon, or to be more specfic, the "woman" and "mother of harlots" who appears in Revelation 17. It would appear that the "queen of Babylon" who appears in Revelation 18 is a different personality, possibly Sarah Palin in some capacity.
(UPDATE NOTE, 1-21-09: Hillary Clinton once again will qualify as the QOB of Revelation 18 in the role of US Secretary of State along with her reputation as former Senator of New York - MM)
And now we have Barack Obama, a potential fulfillment of the beast.

There is no question that he and Hillary Clinton were called before the Bildenberg Group who make up a part of TPTB (or NWO). They have made their decision and Obama is their choice.

However, I believe that Obama, like John F Kennedy, is made of nobler stuff and will choose his own path, endangering his life in the process. He, like Madonna, will likely never fulfill bible endtime prophecy. They will be archetypes instead.

It is even possible TPTB cut a deal and made him the next Reagan.
The first big hint TPTB were looking 30 years ahead for a possible fulfillment of endtime prophecy was when they named the asteroid that will almost certainly strike earth in April 2036 Apophis ("Destroyer").

This time around, instead of ending the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States as Reagan did, Obama will end the horrible relations between the United States and the Muslim world. I agree with that.

Now comparing Christian endtime prophecy with Muslim endtime prophecy is an inexact science. There are similarities, yet there are glaring differences.

To me the most brutal political figure in Muslim endtime prophecy is
the Sufyaani (the final one). His cruelty and inhuman acts stand out like no other. We are told in one hadith that he has the support of the West. As leader of Syria and Sham he would be well-placed regionally to implement a peace with Israel, crushing all opposition and all enemies of Israel and his Western benefactors ruthlessly. In a word he would be perfect in the role of the beast/Antichrist.

The Dajjal, interestingly enough, sounds much more like the Christian version of the false prophet than he does the beast/Antichrist. He performs miracles and feats of magic. The beast is a political animal with heretical religious beliefs who ultimately comes to believe he is a god. The false prophet, on the other hand, supports the policies of the beast and enforces his reign through supernatural deeds (such as calling down fire from the sky and making statues walk and speak). Note that the Dajjal likewise
"makes a fire of a garden and a garden of fire." He is surrounded by a strange people we might call "new age." On the other hand he is one-eyed and wooly-haired like certain archetypes and prophecies of the beast.

Thus, both characters seem to appear in the personage of Dajjal. However, the overwhelming similarities are to the false prophet.

Who then is the Mahdi? Nothing less than an Islamic messiah and the enemy of the beast (Sufyaani) and false prophet (Dajjal). In Islamic prophecy, the Dajjal outlives the Sufyaani. In Christian prophecy, the beast and false prophet are both destroyed nearly simultaneously by being cast alive by angels into the Lake of Fire (or Second Death as it is also called).

I believe the Mahdi appears in Christian prophecy in the Book of Daniel as the final "king of the south" (Arabia) who will war with the Antichrist at the time of the end. Since he is also leader of those of the black banners of Khurasan (Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan), by default he also becomes the greatest of the Eastern kings in the Book of Revelation who rush to defeat Antichrist in the Battle of Armageddon. He may have as many as 200 million men under him during this final battle.

But as I say, there are discrepancies and disagreements about such comparisons. The big problem is one of timing.

But prophecy is always a case of seeing the future through a glass darkly. What we see at best is a facsimile of what will actually happen. So I am more pleasantly surprised by the similarities between Christian and Muslim endtime prophecy than I am put off by the differences.

Finally, if Barack Obama should merely be yet another Western archetype for the beast/Antichrist (as I suspect he will be), we are given a good idea by Nostradamus, Johannes Trithemius, and the Hebrew calendar when the beast and false prophet will finally appear: not until either seven years or 42 months before the year 2240, 2242, or 2243.

Still, I keep both a long view and a short view ... because God may decide to bring events to their ultimate conclusion sooner rather than later. One never knows.

Mike

 

Missed Predictions

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
V
To:
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: Missed Predictions

Hello Mike,

I have been following your web site for quite some time now. I have noticed that sometimes some of your predictions come true, but somewhere else or in some other form. For example; you said that a US rescue mission would fail this year, ( I can only assume its because of the base 7 of the Iranian hostage rescue attempt ) and as of now, that has yet to happen, but in that same month of this year there was the US hostage rescue of the FARC prisoners and I am wondering why you haven't made that a "prediction partially fulfilled" or whatnot.

I have seen it before too. Your prediction of massive riots against the US in Egypt for Jan '08 did not come true, but that same month there were massive protests in South Korea against the US.

Another miss-diction was when you predicted that Iran would test-fire a nuke, which didn't happen, but North Korea tested their nuke exactly when you said Iran would.

Basically what I'm getting at is, would you consider these to be fulfilled prophecies? How can you pinpoint exactly where an event will take place? Also I'd like to ask a unrelated question. What is your opinion on the likely hood of WW3 happening in '09? And what will the post-WW3 world be like?

Thanks, and get well soon,

-V
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Hi V,

Thanks for bringing up this "misdirected prediction" situation as it is both a frustrating experience for me to see, for example (and as you point out) North Korea conducting a nuclear test the same month and year I said Iran would, and a fascinating bit of evidence that, nevertheless, in slightly different ways the base 7 trend or patterning continues to play out. I wish everyone had your powers of observation because, if they did, they would understand just how powerful a phenomenon base 7 actually is and why it is so very reliable a bellweather for establishing future outcomes of long-standing trends. Technically-speaking the base 7 system is virtually 100% correct nearly all the time ... rather, it is I, the one using the system, who is making miscalculations in using the knowledge I possess. I would imagine a super-computer would do a much better job than I using the base 7 system!

Nevertheless, it would also be a good thing to realise that it is possible for humans and other entities to intervene in this clockwork prophecy puzzle and gum up the works! Take the Big Brown prediction: everyone who knows anything about horse racing KNOWS that Big Brown should have won the Triple Crown this year. He did enter the Derby undefeated with more races to his credit than any other previous horse since 1913. It was destined that he win and I was right to predict that whoever the horse was who would win the Kentucky Derby in 2008 would go on to be the winner at the Preakness and the Belmont. Something went wrong, and it was not my calculation that went wrong either. There are still lingering reports that Big Brown had not been properly outfitted with a shoe on one of its hooves before the race and that it came off, causing the animal great pain and obviously great injury if the jockey had insisted on pushing for a win. Anyone who knows about horse racing will tell you that race was fixed, but no one wants to say so publicly.

One reason for tampering with this horse was its "undefeated" record. Because Big Brown was a "sure thing" no one could make any real money on the race. He was too good to be true. Unless there is risk, there is little money to be won. The field offered nothing other than losers (including the horse that won had Big Brown not been tampered with). Someone with a lot of money had Big Brown shod carelessly so he or she could make a killing betting against him. There were a number of bets placed against Big Brown that actually made no sense under the circumstances ... unless the betters knew something.

So here is a good example of how human intervention can change the outcome of an otherwise faultless prediction.

Thanks for telling me about the FARC mission. I was not aware of it at the time ... and I know why. In late February after a night of drinking brandy, I awoke the next day suffering from extreme vertigo. I thought perhaps it was the alcohol that caused it ( I do not drink to excess very often and, for that matter, not moderately that often either being more of a coffee hound). The vertigo would not go away, not even after five days. It was horrible and it was especially bad lying my head on the pillow, then the entire room spun around for what seemed 30 seconds making me think I would die. I was put on an anti-vertigo med that made me very sleepy .. which is bad because I have sleep apnea besides and that can cause a bit of narcolepsy. On March 5 I went out to eat. Driving home my blood pressure must have dropped really low and I passed out at the wheel. I awoke 15 seconds later, smashing into a stop sign, a guardrail, and then plummeted off a small cliff into a deep ditch of water. I was unhurt, but the car was totalled. I spent three days in hospital for examination. Not much was actually resolved by my being there. Finally, in late April, I went to a specialist who cured me of the vertigo. There are exercises I can now perform she taught me so if it ever comes back I will likely prevent a bad case of it again. The apnea is not yet resolved because I am on the wrong machine and need a new sleep study, but the narcolepsy seems to happen much less often now, thank goodness.

So, I was not very much "on the ball" about everything that was happening in the news back in the late winter and spring I am afraid, thus missed this FARC mission. You are correct: that would be a PREDICTION PARTIALLY FULFILLED or else CLOSE ... I need to familiarise myself with the details to determine which.

Regarding what happened in South Korea instead of Egypt, again, for personal reasons I will not get into in the latter part of the month, I was a bit out of the loop where events were concerned. Also I was trying to catch the web site up to 2008 as it was a new year.

Even so, what happened in South Korea, instead of Egypt, is a mechanism I do not entirely understand. It is why there was a major airliner crash in Spain rather than in the Middle East and another in Russia rather than the United States ... at the times base 7 alterted or predicted.

There appears to be a migratory nature to some base 7 patterns which I have sometimes called "translocation." It is rare for accidents to occur in the same location twice until at least a good 21 or 28 years have passed (sometimes much less and sometimes much more). Often we will see a grand return after 70 years: Jean Harlow (1937) = Anna Nicole Smith (2007); hurricane strikes Long Island causing major flooding (1937) = Nor' Easter striking New York City and causing major flooding (2007); and other instances. Even longer periods do we have to wait sometimes, like the dread 98th anniversary: Lincoln assassinated in 1865 = Kennedy assassinated in 1963.

Anyway, getting an accident right is a bit hit and miss because of the migratory nature of accidents. Nevertheless, one stands a good 50/50 or 75/25 chance of getting a repeat using the base 7 system.

Translocation (or migration of location in a trend) happens a little less frequently when dealing with war or warlike events, political events, and such. Take World War II and the Pacific migration. The US was at war with North Korea in 1950 and again with North Vietnam in 1964 after the Gulf of Tonkin attack. Although the US war dates with Japan during World War II do not fit the Korea-Vietnam timeline, it established the Pacific as the arena of conflict for some time to come. In 1971 Vietnam not only did not go away, but spread to Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand. By 1978 Cambodia was the new "killing fields" .. but without US participation.

However, by 1985 the Pacific had ceased to be the arena of conflict. The trend was undergoing migration. Had anyone used the base 7 system during the early 1980s, they would have either made the mistake of predicting yet another Pacific conflict in 1985 or else, noting a migration of concern towards the Persian Gulf in 1980, might have predicted a major US war with Iran or Iraq in 1985. Again, that person would have been wrong about the dating at least since the US did not enter the Iran-Iraq War until 1987. One can easily understand the migration from the Far East to the Middle East, but why the start of conflict would be gummed up by two years is not easy to explain. Perhaps this was due to mass paranoia at that time that 1985 would be the start of World War III or because of the new developments in the relationship between the Soviet Union and the United States. Human concern delayed the war by two years, until an allegedly errant Iraqi Exocet missile changed all that in May 1987.

Now more confident, our imaginary base 7 calculator would have either seen the two year switch as a gum-up and stuck to the timeline which would next occur in 1992 or else would have planned to assert a new timeline in 1994. He/she would have called a major Middle East war in 1992 and been shocked to see Operation Desert Storm occur in 1991 .. a year early. Of course this fell short of World War III, but encouraged on by cheers of approval and awe our persistent base 7 technician would be all ready to bet the farm on 1999, which would have yielded disastrous results.

Another migration had occurred in the meantime from the Middle East to the Balkans (in Slovenia) at exactly the same time as Operation Desert Storm and the genocide of the Kurds that followed came to an end in April 1991. Then came a more violent struggle between Serbia and Croatia in August 1991, but was fortunately short-lived.

Thus, in April 1992 the first of the two most serious and major of the Balkans wars began in Bosnia-Herzogovina. It would also be the longest of the Balkans wars. To get 1999 right and identify the theatre of conflict as the former Yugoslavia (The Kosovo War), our intrepid base 7 prognosticator could have ill afforded to ignore that the war in Bosnia began in 1992.

On the other hand, if he/she had heeded the gum-up and extrapolated from 1987 to 1994, a confused mess would have been their lot long before 1999. The Balkans would not have been foreseen and Bosnia would be in its third year. As for the Middle East, save for a weak, ineffective second move to take Kuwait by Saddam Hussein, a move quickly repelled by Clinton within a week, 1994 would yield nothing else.

Would he/she have the nerve to push ahead for a war in the Middle East in 2001? With so much hanging on 1999 it is doubtful, but had they done so they would have been rewarded. And I did so ... and was right. 911 happened, then the war in Afghanistan, followed by the war between Israel and the West Bank/Lebanon/Syria in March and April 2002 and then the US war in Iraq a year later made my prediction technically correct, but wrong as to sequence and degree of conflict.

Now we await to see if a major Middle East war breaks out this year like no other one before it. Yet, even as we wait, have I taken into consideration the slight migration from Middle East/Persian Gulf to Afghanistan in Central Asia in 2001???? Instead of a war involving Iran and the US, Israel and Lebanon/Syria, Turkey and Iraq, all blending together are we instead heading for a repetition of Afghanistan and a migration into Pakistan and India???? Or will the actual Arab-Israeli conflict hold off until April 2009 and war with Iran until March 2010??? Will the dreaded Russian invasion of the Balkans and then Europe actually occur in 2012 or 2013??

World War III will either break out in the Middle East this autumn or begin no later than April 2009. World War III in Europe will follow by August 2009 ... UNLESS THERE IS A CEASEFIRE. Prospects for a ceasefire in August 2009 are very good. If that occurs, World War III will not begin again in the Middle East until a violation occurs in June-August 2011 with a Russian-Iranian blockade of the Persian Gulf. The crisis will stew until January 2012 and then all hell will break loose in the Middle East. World War III will then migrate via Turkey and the Balkans as a Russian-Iranian invasion of Europe in August 2012.

Aftermath will be horrible, beginning in either 2010 or 2013, depending on when WW3 in Europe begins (2009 or 2012). I will show with images and words in new 2010- 2016 pages (two sets of each year). I will show the events of a troubled but great "little peace" that may come from August 2009 until January 2012 if ceasefire is declared.

After WW3 is waged in Europe in either 2009 or 2012, I will show the resulting destruction of the United States and parts of Russia, civil wars in the UK, Italy, Germany, and Russian federation, revolution in France and a second reign of terror that will spread from France throughout seven other European nations, anti-Christian policies, mass exterminations, new religions demanding human sacrifice, a monstrous puppet leader shoved on to the people by the Muslims who will be like the beast of Revelation ... four or six years of horror, torture, suffering, and death before the people are at last liberated by a royal house of France in 2016 and the monster destroyed. This does not include the additional horror of plague that will arrive in April 2013.

However, it is possible we can avoid a ceasefire violation and postpone World War III until 2038 ... the year it is intended to begin.

Anyway, I am glad you are paying attention. I wish everyone would understand the system and its complexities as well as you seem to. I will certainly make mention by year's end of some of these mis-predicted events, if not give myself some well-deserved partial points for each.

Thanks again,

Mike

 

Brigade Homeland Tour

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Shaun
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Brigade Homeland Tour

Michael,

Check this link out. This scared the hell out of me when I read it. It's not good at all.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

-
Shaun
* * * * *
Hi Shaun,

Hmmmm.. I don't know. Close reading of this article, if anything, is rather reassuring that the army is being trained to help civilians, not kill them .. for example training in the use of 'the jaws of life' and other life-saving procedures.. and of course crowd control and chaos in the event of an earthquake or terrorist attack. Even there they discuss non-lethal methods of crowd control, such as tasers and are hinting, I think, of the new microwave energy beam weapon they have developed. Let's face it, there will be chaos and rioting to some degree during a crisis ... we can't pretend there will be universal calm and cooperation. And why bother to 'save' lives if you are really planning on mass extermination?

This article was written for army people by army people and those interested in the armed forces, so there is no reason for the author to lie here.

Of course the issue of camps and the millions of plastic coffins is not addressed at all.

Regarding the plastic coffins it is not impossible that they were made in anticipation of a horrific disaster in the Eastern United States. I read a prophecy once somewhere that millions of people would be killed in the Eastern US after an asteroid impact or sudden sinking of a volcanic island in the Atlantic Ocean, either probably related to Planet X, and that these bodies would have to be shipped by trains to the northwest for burial in mass graves as quickly as possible to avoid the spread of disease that would break out from all the decay. So perhaps there is a logical explanation for all the coffins other than as evidence that there is a sinister government plan for mass depopulation.

As for the detention camps there is also an alternative explanation for that. The United States may be invaded from Central and South America by several million Latin American troops allied with Russia, China, Iran and Syria (and part of their militaries may be included in the number of invaders). I have dreamt such a scenario before happening in a summer month and there is base 7 evidence such an event could occur. I'm not sure, but I think there is even an actual prophecy about an invasion from the south.

In the event that occurs, there no longer is any mystery what the camps are for. When I look back at the huge number of Cuban refugees that came to the US in 1980 I start to think also: how many of the approximately 800 detention camps in the US would have been needed to house all those Cubans had they had them then? Since several million of them came over here, I would say quite a few of the camps would have been needed. As it was, due to the lack of such detention camps at that time, the government had to set up scores of makeshift camps all over the Florida panhandle and the Gulf of Mexico anywhere they could, including underneath expressways and freeways.

Yeah, and if that ever happened again, I'd prefer the barbed wire was pointed to keep the refugees in.

I have to admit there are credible scenarios to explain the existence of detention camps, double decker railroad cars, and huge numbers of plastic coffins.

But even if this is the real truth behind their existence, how many Americans would believe it??? Trust in the US leadership is currently at an all-time low and paranoia induced by Internet conspiracies is at an all-time high. I am not sure what to believe anymore myself.

Mike

 

Another popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in truck crash

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:02 AM
Subject: Another popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in truck crash.

Hi Mike

hope you are coping well.

Well another Aussie presenter has been injured seriously in a monster truck accident. Grant Denyer's crushed a vertebrae in his back into about half a dozen pieces.
(
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/633099/denyer-injured-in-monster-truck-crash) Seems we have a lot of 'celebrity accidents' lately here in Aussieland.

While I still have you, I would like to bring up two Aussie personalities who have passed on in the past year.

Similar in the vein of Charmaine Dragun query. Sports commentator and a reality TV show contestant.

One of Aussie's original Big Brother housemate died in Sept 2007
(
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22415081-662,00.html)

A well known and respected Australian sport commentator, Clinton Grybas died in January 5th this year (
http://news.theage.com.au/sport/police-probe-commentator-grybas-death-20080105-1kbw.html and http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23013577-601,00.html). His death was a mystery at first but concluded that he died while sleepwalking falling after hitting something in his apartment I believe..

I guess my query which is similar to Charmaine Dragun query, is: is there such a thing like sports presenter's or a reality star's death in previous years can repeat again 7 years later?

Thank you and as always look forward to hearing from you.

Louie
* * * * *
Hi Louie,

I'll run Grant Denyer through the name sound filter, along with a few others I haven't done yet. Don't be surprised if there are no important matches in certain cases. Celebrities, like regular people, DO die simply because they do and it has nothing to do with a special death line they happened to be on or whether their name matches some other celebrity. I do submit, however, that a pattern of coincidence that is more than mere coincidence occurs in the lives and deaths of the famous and infamous and, to some extent, regular people a large part of time. But certainly we can dimiss up to 25% of deaths, on average in any given year, as simply being random.

I have never done a study of sportcasters and reality stars to see if there are patterns or base 7 links. Reality TV is still too new or recent a phenomenon yet to conduct studies that are much more than 7 years old. Were there reality TV shows 14 years ago in 1994? I can't seem to recall any.

Even in the case of TV presenters, which go back as long as television has been around (60 years), we find cases of similar death of presenters corresponding to a base 7 timeline rather meagre. Most have died of natural causes. Technically the most outstanding cases thus far have been Chris Hubbock who committed suicide live on TV (who was a woman by the way, and not a man ... that is why I used her when trying to compare Jill Dando with Charmaine Dragun), Jessica Savitch, Jill Dando, Christopher Price, Peter Jennings, Mark Speight, and now Charmaine Dragun. And of course being a TV presenter can mean many and various things: from news shows to kiddie shows. In terms of the news, not many incidents have occurred despite 60 years of television.

Sportscasters, who can say? That requires an exhausting amount of research that may be well worth the trouble when things are relatively slow and I am caught up with my site. But that will be some time away yet.

No link is impossible. I am sure if the statistics were available, we could find patterns linking the deaths of professional jugglers, ventriloquists, gourmet chefs, chiefs of police, and even street cleaners ... especially if we are going to use examples from every country in the world. I would shudder to do a study of deaths in India where life is cheap and suicide is higher than anywhere else on the planet. So, of course, I have to narrow my research within a narrower, more reasonable field.

Adding Australia and, I suppose New Zealand, to a study of Western nations is understandable and has my approval, although some viewers may feel alienated by unfamiliar names (other than internationally known ones like Kylie Minogue, Geoffrey Rush, Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, or Olivia Newton-John or famous classic rock bands like AC/DC or Midnight Oil).

Now, of course, Asian celebrities from places like South Korea, Japan, China, India, and the Middle East are making inroads to Western media attention via the Internet ... people we otherwise might not even know about, save for about 1%. It makes the job more difficult using the base 7 system on a global scale where individuals are concerned. Still, it is amazing the patterns I have found, for example, with those who have chosen to fall from a high place (usually an apartment balcony) from Elizabeth Hartmann in the West, to Soud Hosni in Egypt, to Ruslana Korshunova of Kazakhstan, to Charmaine Dragun of Australia.

Incidentally, how popular are musical and film stars from the Oriental Asian nations like South Korea and Japan in Australia? It would seem to me that an Asian Pacific pantheon of stars would exist just as there are in UK/Europe or America.

Yes, sports presenters and reality TV star's, like all occupations, do without doubt, produce observable trends among their rank and file. We only have to find out what they are and who has been affected.

Mike

 

re:early 21st Century

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Trish
To:
mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: re:early 21st Century

Hello Michael

I've heard that Planet X could have a most devastating, catastrophic, for the entire earth. Is it possible that this planet could reverse our poles and creating such devastation?

How is that you see past 2016 and beyond????? I have studied the bible, and to the best of my recollection, NO BODY knows the hour not even the Son(Jesus) of when these things come to pass.

The future as you see it doesn't look to promising for my children or their children, all about wars, food shortages, lawlessness ... maybe I should live today, as if it were my last and enjoy it.

Kind regards Patricia.

Trish - -Patty!
* * * * *
Hello Trish,

There are many theories about what Planet X will do to Earth when it passes by ... WHEN it passes by (this cannot even be agreed upon). As to the "when" most prophecy says there will be a major "comet" that will cause some destruction to our planet in various ways at the same time that many nations are plagued by a great war (ie, "World War III"). Therefore, if various prophecies are correct, this object or comet will not come until we are in the midst of this great war at the point when Europe is attacked and invaded by "the East" ("Russia" or the "the Soviet Union" in some later prophecies). The originator of this prophecy, Daniel, however, identifies the adversary as the king of Persia (Iran) and his ally the king(s) of Media. Georgia is an example of one of the nations that were part of Media, and, as you can see, portions of it now are once again part of Russia. If Russia continues to absorb more former Soviet states into its structure, it becomes "king" of the Medes. Ergo, an Iranian-Russian alliance is "the East" that many prophets feared would invade Europe in our time and is distinctly identified by Daniel in Chapter 8 (and also mentioned in various places by Nostradamus in his book).

So, Planet X cannot come until the war is waged and reaches critical mass in Europe. If Planet X arrives in a time of peace or a limited level of conflict in some place like Iraq or Afghanistan, it would be going against prophecy. Obviously if there is a world war that is as bad as I described, we will have plenty other things to worry about besides Planet X anyway ... like nuclear war.

This world war need not happen in our lifetimes. It is possible for it to be postponed until the year 2038. So there is some hope in that for you .. and for all of us. If that is what happens then Planet X will not come until around the year 2044.

Yes, Planet X will, at some point, cause a "pole shift" of 90 degrees .. there is evidence of that in Revelation after the seventh seal has been opened and a third of the stars are shaken to the ground so that a third of the stars are no longer seen nor a third of the light shine by the moon and stars. If the earth's pole is shifted by that much, it will certainly change the way the stars and constellations will appear afterwards. Indeed, all the things mentioned from the opening of the sixth seal (the great planet earthquake, moon appears as blood, sun black as sackcloth, heavens rolled up like scroll, etc) through to the seventh seal and fourth trumpet sounded are related to various Planet X actions on our planet.

I do not see beyond 2016 nor do I say that man will definitely continue beyond 2016
(Nostradamus does).

Nostradamus says that most of the world will be destroyed by ignorant rulers, weapons, fire, and flood in the year 2243 (using the grand cycle of the Moon as his dating device). He also says that the end of seven thousand years of human history will arrive in 2242-43 in his Epistle to Henry II (written in 1558), claiming also that the seventh millennium began in 1242-43 and will end in 2242-43, for he tells his son four years earlier that they are living in the seventh millennium (when he wrote this in 1554, by his reckoning, that would have been true if it began in 1242-43). His view at the end of the seventh millennium, in 2243, follows Christian theology surprisingly exact for he says then the kingdom of Christ will begin and Satan will be bound and thrown into prison for a thousand years, after which time there will be one last uprising by people he identifies as Azostains (another word for infidels, unfaithful). Yet again, therefore, he is describing the final battle led by Satan after deceiving the nations of world (identified in Revelation as "Gog and Magog").

Nostradamus differs with the modern popular Christian view of when the date of the creation of Adam occurred. That is why Christians will say there are only 6000 years elapsed (4004 BC usually given as the date to begin counting from) and the millennial reign of Christ shall begin the seventh millennium (which is well overdue since that should have happened in 1996 or 1997 depending on whether one takes into account there was no year zero). Nostradamus set creation as being either 4756 BC or 4757 BC. His calculations are supported by the Abbot Trithemius, which are only ten years off, who wrote his discourse on the "Angel Ages" in 1503. Like the prophet Enoch, both men believed there would be seven thousand years of human history before the messianic age would begin, which would be the eighth millennium. Christian theology teaches 6000 years of human history as opposed to 7000 years of human history merely because in the Book of Genesis, God took 6 days to create the world and rested on the 7th. However, the truth is, most Old Testament era prophets believed there would be 7000 years from the time of creation before Man's rule would end and the awaited messiah's would begin.

Nevertheless, in the Book of Matthew Jesus does remind us that God shall shorten Man's years in the end times because if He does not "no flesh would survive." The question is how much will He shorten them by and in what sense? In Matthew is Jesus saying the 7000 years will be reduced to 6700 to 6800 years (meaning our era will end sometime between 1943 and 2043) or does it mean the beast will reign only 42 months because originally his reign was to last longer (Nostradamus says the beast reign is 25 years without divine intervention)? As you can see either way years are being shortened.

In any event, I present prophecies that clearly extend beyond our current time as though the prophets, like Nostradamus, claiming a much longer future than a handful of years remaining are correct. We cannot say for certain they are wrong.

At the same time, I look at the time in which we are living as possibly being at the brink of Tribulation. I must because God has said He will shorten the years and I cannot be sure what that means exactly. For this reason I engage in interpretation and discussion concerning the beast and false prophet and the whore of Babylon and other such features of Revelation from an end times perspective (ie, that we may indeed be living in the last 7-year period or very near it).

Personally, I believe we are approaching that part of Revelation that corresponds with the opening of the sixth seal. How long the time will run from there until the Second Coming I truly do not know. It could be years, decades, or even a few centuries.

I show the nightmare version of what will come, the worst case scenario, based on prophecy but also based on our own history which I truly do believe does repeat itself at intervals of seven years and also multiples of seven years (ie., 7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, 56, 63, etc).

I believe most future events that have been prophesied can be mitigated and I also believe that some future events can be postponed to a later time. Human free will does play a role in all of this. The events of Revelation may be written in stone, but they have been carefully presented by John without a timeframe, if you notice, until the beast and false prophet appear. Until these two actually appear, Man has some power over how long he can reign in this world through the power of faith and prayer ... and a bit of common sense if he has any left.

Yes, live today and plan for tomorrow. I do. Hope springs eternal, as they say. But for those of us who present and discuss prophecy, it is our job to alert the public as to where we may be headed. Thus, as Dickens reminds us in A Christmas Carol when Scrooge is shown his headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future and queries in great dread and trepidation:
'Are these the shadows of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you show me!'

This is a question that
haunts us all. But what Scrooge has reasoned out after putting the question in this classic ghost story can be the only answer for any of us, without the benefit of a spectre's assurance.

Take care,

Mike

 

STOP RIGHT THERE MR MCCLELLAN ... HAVE YOU BEEN ENTIRELY HONEST WITH THESE PEOPLE ABOUT
JOHN GIBSON'S INTERVIEW WITH SARAH PALIN??

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
TATI
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:53 PM
You referenced Sarah Palin's interview with John Gibson, but what must be taken into consideration is how edited it was when aired on ABC. In their full context, the transcript of which is provided in the link below, her remarks would appear to differ,  sometimes significantly, from what was portrayed on television, particularly in her hostility toward Russia.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview
* * * * *
Dear Tati,
You run a blog.  I run a very large website which is a good deal more time-consuming.  Except for another email reader (besides myself) who answers letters (and is away on vacation right now), I am doing this all alone.
I am viewing events from a prophetic perspective and, as such, am highly dependent on (allegedly) reputable news organisations and news services for factual evidence to support prophecies by major prophets as well as personal predictions I have made.  I teach that history repeats itself at often regular intervals of multiples of seven years and demonstrate how often that actually does happen.
I simply do not have the time to pin down every news story to see if it is journalistically sound or biased. If that became my mission, that is all I would ever be doing.
I read the transcript and see what you mean. Nevertheless, although Palin's views are somewhat moderated by the material that was removed, it did not sway my overall view that she perceives Russia as a potential adversary at this time.  She has made other comments to this effect outside of the interview in question.  This interview is by no means the only source for such reports.
Still, I have to wonder why these comments were singled out for editing? Why were many of John Gibson's questions also deleted?  He spent much quality time preparing his questions, why ask them only to delete them later?  Is not his editing out of his own remarks as important as his editing out those of Sarah Palin's?
You do realise, I am sure, that a TV journalist must adhere to the demands placed upon his network by sponsors.  He/she has only so much time allotted them to produce a final presentation of the interview.  Much cutting is necessary.  It is impossible to conduct a television interview and NOT delete comments.  If many questions are asked and/or answers are quite lengthy, perhaps a third of all words exchanged will never be heard.
What is removed is up to the judgment of the interviewer and sometimes that can be a tough call.  There is also something we can not know:  what was Sarah Palin's body language saying at the time she made the remarks that were later deleted?  If the interviewer is any good he can tell whether at some point when speaking the person he is engaging is being evasive or otherwise disingenuous.  If that is the case, he may decide to delete such material and hold on to that which struck him as being truly candid.
A full transcript that is published for reading is no more or less the truth than an edited vocal interview unless we actually see the words being spoken.
Nevertheless, I shall provide your remarks and the link to your blog in my article so that my viewers can decide the truth, such as it may be, for themselves.
Most sincerely yours,
Mike
-----------------------------
Speaking of which, apparently Sarah Palin has been caught in one lie already. So how can we really know where she stands on Russia????
Palin never in Iraq, campaign now says
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/13/palin.iraq/index.html

----- Original Message -----
From:
TATI .
To: Mike
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: RE:

I understand your point, and by no means was I implying any irresponsibility on your part. Just figured I'd point out the article (of which the blog in question I do not run, by the way), since the ABC report didn't tell the whole story. And like you said, people can decide for themselves. Thank you for your time, I only recently discovered your site several weeks ago and am thoroughly hooked.

 

A woman's perspective on Palin

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Shelley
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:06 AM
Subject: A woman's perspective on Palin
Hi Mike,
Sarah Palin likes to hunt wild animals from the air, often using automatic weapons rather than actual game riflesI hope this is finding you well of late. As a single working Mom I would like to offer that not all of us are smitten with Mrs Palin. As I read the news I am crying for what I know will be lost, as surely as I knew what would be lost when GWB hit the scene. It's a gut instinct that makes me recoil when I look at her eyes or see her doing the Hitler hand salute.
She is indeed cruel - you need only read how she attacked the physical appearance of her opponents, or shoots animals from the air (the most cowardly way to hunt since the gun) and her insistence that polar bears are not endangered. Further, beauty queens place appearance above all else, so in essence our presidential race has been reduced to a meaningless reality show. Any woman who wants to deny abortion to a rape or incest victim - and make the rape victim pay for the rape kit to boot - is the definition of intolerance and cruelty.
I was horrified when I read she put more importance on making a speech and taking an 8 hour flight from Texas back to Alaska than her and her babies health when her water broke. It was a high risk pregnancy and she did not notify the airlines that she was going into labor. If she is willing to put her own childs health at risk to make a speech and put her own interests in front, but deny the rest of us the same control over our lives - imagine the depth of her disdain for anyone outside her circle.
Remember that no man knows the mind of God and while you may be keeping an open mind based on your calculations, my instincts are saying "Holy shit - we are so screwed".
Peace out,
Shelley
* * * * *
Hi Shelley,

Thanks for sending that along. It certainly opens my eyes to the reality that is Sarah Palin.

I have not had a chance to do much research on her, but I can see I have missed a whole lot. I had hoped that her being an Evangelist might be a good sign, but really doubted it when I read that she said she thought the war in Iraq was "a mission from God." That is crazy and her telling school children such crap is also crazy and dangerous. Unfortunately, and sad to say, many of the so-called Christians these days are dangerous lunatics.

Hitler hand salute to go with it too, eh? I don't know who I dread more: the Zionists or the anti-Zionists. Both sound like fanatics.

Well, I may quote some of this material when I have a chance as an update to the article. I will of course say it is from an anonymous source or sources (unless you would like your name addy 'Shelley' used). Besides, this would make a good letter for the email forum too, which hasn't been updated in quite a while (not for a lack of material, I will be backlogged forever) . . .

Anyway, thanks for sharing your views on Ms Palin and also for your concern about my health.

Take care,

Mike

 

Will LHC ( Large Hadron Collider) Experiment Bring About the End of the World?

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: Tomorrow the world goes under !

Hi Mike

Black hole to be created in lab?

We are perhaps close to see the following come true:
C9 Q44
Migrés, migrés de Geneue trestous.
Saturne d'or en fer se changera,
Le contre FAYPOZ exterminera tous,
Auant l'aduent le ciel signes fera.
Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
"Raypoz" will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs.
The swedish online newspaper "expressen" has an article about a scientific experiment that will start tomorrow (wednesday) september 10. 2008
The headline:

 

The World will end Tomorrow

By sending particles trough a gigantic particel accellerator by the name LHC ( Large Hadron Collider) at the CERN-Laboratory in  Geneva, scientists hopes to create a mini Big Bang and learn more about our universe. But critics ( a large number of scientists) has warned that a sideeffect of the experiment could accidentally create small black holes that could expand and swallov the earth.

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1293738/forskare-i-morgon-gar-jorden-under

 

Its been sugested that Raypoz could mean a positive Ray, and there is both a positive and negative ray ind the particle accellerator.
So if Nostradamus is pointing to this event, then something is going horribly wrong.
Greetings from
Michael Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'Annemarc
* * * * *
Mike,  
Relax.
If the worst were to happen, it would mean the end of all life on this planet ... and no prophecy backs that up.
Black holes would almost certainly mean TOTAL DESTRUCTION and no scientist would play around with such a scenario unless they knew what they were doing.  There is no such thing as controlling what a black hole does ... if this particle accelerator creates black holes capable of swallowing our planet, then, as far as the scientific theory of black holes goes, planet Earth and everyone on it would cease to exist at a very rapid rate.
No survivors and no planet to survive on!
Nostradamus never predicted anything that total, nor did the Bible prophets nor any other prophets.  Nostradamus' warning to flee Geneva would be useless if a black hole was created on our planet ... we would need to leave our solar system!
The "contrary to the positive ray" that you mention as a translation for RAYPOZ is by Delores Cannon.  She is not even a real Nostradamus scholar.  She claims to "channel" Nostradamus' spirit.  Her translations are most specious in my opinion.   RAYPOZ, like so many of the figures who appear in the quatrains, is a person ... and RAYPOZ is an anagram or approximation of his name.
Actually, according to scientist Stephen Hawking ( the quadriplegic genius you have probably seen who speaks through an artificial voice simulator) says that very small black holes, smaller than can be seen with eye, that might be formed would evaporate almost as quickly as they are formed.  Indeed, past tests with cruder particle acceleration devices have already created such black holes and they all did indeed evaporate virtually seconds after forming.  So we have already been at this stage of the game and never even knew it.
But if for some crazy reason I am wrong ... then all of prophecy is wrong ... then all religion and all faith is wrong.  Then we may all indeed die tomorrow and our world with it.  If so, what can be done??  Pray to God??  That would be a supreme waste of time.  I suppose then that tomorrow is as much a test to see if humanity is worthy of continuing as a species.  Are those who rule this planet really that weary of life to take such a chance?
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
Michael Skøtt Andersen
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Tomorrow the world goes under !

Hi again Mike

Oh I am allready as relaxed as one can be in this world..

No I dont believe in the black hole theory either, I was just refering to the headlines, that as allways are intended to get more buyers of the newspaper.

Besides I made one mistake, the accellerator doesnt have one positive and one negative ray, this one is different, it has 2 positive rays.

There is allways one important thing to remember in science. Theory is only theory until it has been confirmed by experiment. So this experiment could still hold some unexpeted results that will blow the minds of the scientist.

As I have written earlier, I have had several dreamvisions that came true, and they allways had what I call "
a special flavour" in lack of better words, in the way that I allways remembered it verry clearly, and in the dreams I have a third kind of consciousness or awareness like somewhere between being awake and dreaming. Dont mistake this ( I know that you will not Mike) for lucid dreaming, because I am not controlling the dreamvision, allthoug sometimes I wish I could so I wouldnt have some of the negative visions.

But luckily it isnt all black in black. Here is one vision that indicates that the 3 world war will not occur untill after the Soccer World Championships in 2010..
They are planned to be played in South Africa, but if this vision is true there might happen something unexpected so the games will be moved to France.

In the summer 1988, shortly after the ending of the European Championships, played out in Germany, I was a bit depressed since the Danish National Soccerteam had lost all three games in their group. Since Denmark isnt one of the big nations there were not much hope of Denmark ever again quallifying for any other major Championship. But then I had the following dream.

I was sitting in a sofa in front of a TV. On the screen I could see written in Cyrilic (Russian letters ) this result " USSR - DENMARK" 0 - 2. Under this writing I could see a soccer/football stadium.

There were dark clouds in the sky, and it was allmost dark and the big lights on the stadium had been lit. Somehow the word "Marseille" entered my mind. I knew it was some sort of Championsship in France but I didnt know which and to me it seemed it was the final game. Suddenly my sofa was placed in the stadium with me still sitting in it, surounded by thousand and thousands of spectators. The sound level in this dreamvision was incredibly loud, and so was the colours and sensations. I rose up from the sofa, now dressed in red and white and started running towards the Russians goal. I think the Russians were dressed all in white. On my right side a Danish player ran along the side almost up to the right corner and then kicked the football hard across the face of the goalkeeper, the football passed all the way over to me now standing close to the left goalpost. I only had to hit the football with my left foot and it was in the net. You wouldnt think that its possible to reach such soundlevels in a dream, but the crowd of Danish spectators made me think that I would go deaf . They cheered and it sounded as if fireworks went of too. Then there was sort of a timelapse in the dreamvision, and now I was running alone in the middle of the field, only with the Russian goalkeeper in front of me. The football was now shot forward from another player behind me in such a way that I had to jump over it in order to get it under controll. Now I was running with the football, and the Russian goalkeeper started running out towards me so it would be more difficult for me to hit the goal. I made the shot with my left foot again, and the footbal sort of curved around the goalkeeper on his right side just outside of reach. It went in..Now the crowd were cheering and dancing, so you cold allmost belive an earhtquake was going on.


When I woke up I was feeling verry happy. I dont know if the result shown on the TV was the halftime or fulltime result, so it could mean that Denmark wins 2-0 or 4-0 against the Russians.

Now, I dont want you to think, that I think that I will be playing on the Danish National Soccerteam or as we in Europe prefer Footballteam. The dream indicated to me that I will be watching it on TV, but I was allowed to se how it will happen from a first person view. So I gues that the player who scores the 2 goals is leftfooted. One thing that pussled me in the dream was that the Final game was being played in Marseille and not on "Parc de Prince" Stadium in Paris, which would be the normal thing to do. There could be two reasons for this. Either that Paris has been destroyed or that Some other sporting or Musical event is taking place in Paris. This could be the case if South Africa shortly before the games has to cancel for some reason. Then All sorts of hurried and hasty sollutions will have to be made, so probably the stadiums has allready been booked to some other activity. Another thing some has pointed out is that its not called USSR any more, and I know, and I dont expect it to be any more, but if I had seen another name on the screen back in 1988, then I probably wouldnt have understood it.

I have told several people in Denmark and Sweden of this dreamvision, and some say that perhaps it had to do with Denmark becomming European Champions in 1992, only 4 years after I dreamt this, but this game was won in Gothenburg Sweden againgst the German World Champions, funny enough with Result beeing Germany - Denmark 0 -2.
Me and some other people were anxious to know if it meant that Denmark would win the world Championschip in France in 1998, but they didnt and the final game was played in Paris between France and Brazil.

So If You want to make some bet that someday in the future will make you rich, you now have something to bet on... ;-)

Friendly greetings from

Michael Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'Annemarc


----- Original Message -----
From:
Michael Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: World Cup Qualifying

Hi Mike

after sending you my dream about Denmark winning against Russia I watched the World Cup Qualifying match between Portugal and Denmark:

See the result for yourself here:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=236383&cc=5739

It seems that I still can be right :-)

Greetings


Michael Skøtt Andersen / Copenhagen d'Annemarc

 

Hadron Collider

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Steve
To: Mike
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Hadron Collider

Mike,

Does Nostradamus say anything about this device? Could its operation have astronomical effects? A black hole, even a small one, can draw objects due to intense gravitation. Perhaps even celestial objects of some kind. Earth is such an object; as Earth matter condenses, the gravitational energy it exerts could effect the transition of other objects. An object passing by earth very slowly, might be affected, if events begin to spiral out of control. Just wild speculation. Planet X is much too large to be seriously compromised; but some of its own energies could be drawn into Earth's atmosphere and spiral toward Earth's surface and into Earth's mantle or core. That might change the magnetic properties of the Earth at some point. Again, wild speculation.

More likely, if the Hadron Collider is "successful," at doing what its designers hope for (whatever that is), other countries might build their own. The cumulative effect could be more dramatic than the effects produced by a single collider. I seem to recall one version of Atlantis's demise was caused by its prehistoric scientists overuse of various "energies," out of a sense of unbridled arrogance toward the Earth.

Steve

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Hi Steve,

I've been getting other emails of concern about tomorrow's experiment with the particle accelorator. One even mailed me a Nostradamus quatrain:

C9 Q44
Migrés, migrés de Geneue trestous.
Saturne d'or en fer se changera,
Le contre FAYPOZ exterminera tous,
Auant l'aduent le ciel signes fera.

Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
"Raypoz" will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs.


He uses this quatrain to cite Delores Cannon's idea, whose translations I consider spurious, who translates Raypoz, "the positive of the contrary ray." Of course she is less a scholar and more a mystic, claiming to "channel" Nostradamus' spirit messages from the other side. RAYPOZ, I have no doubt, is an anagram of a person's name.

Anyway, I will say this much: prophecy does not support the idea of our world being gobbled up by a black hole as this would cause the extinction of all life on this planet. Of course if prophecy is wrong, anything can happen (as you well know).

In closing, I'll repeat this much I have already written other emailers:

But if for some crazy reason I am wrong ... then all of prophecy is wrong ... then all religion and all faith is wrong. Then we may all indeed die tomorrow and our world with it. If so, what can be done?? Pray to God?? That would be a supreme waste of time. I suppose then that tomorrow is as much a test to see if humanity is worthy of continuing as a species. Are those who rule this planet really that weary of life to take such a chance?

Mike


 

2 eights and a nine

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Michael Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: 2 eights and a nine

Hi Mike

When I started up my office pc at work today, I was reminded about the Irlmaier Prophecy:
I see quite clearly three numbers, two eights and a nine.

It would also fit the glove today but I hope not.

I think that soon nobody want to qoute the old saying " I like Ike", cause if this hurricane hits USA as a big 4 then there wont be much left to like.

On the night between august 30. and 31 I had quite a dramatic dream:

I was sitting in my livingroom and looked out trough my window. The window is facing north: Suddenly a big and brown tornado swooshed by close to my home, from east to the west, or from right to left. Tornados the size like the ones in USA is allmost never possible in Denmark, so I was a bit shook up. Then I went outside and from the cloudy sky above I saw 5 fingershaped tornados side by side like fingers on a big hand, that either were stopping or were about to touch down, I don't know. After this I was suddenly in Paris france and looked up on a gigantic mushroom shaped cloud, first I thought that it was a big tornado. It wasnt. While I was looking up on the underside of this cloud there came first one then a second and then a third flash of fire, close to the top of the cloud. Then I thought that it was some sort of delayed nuclear explosion, and that I was going to die now.

When I woke up I realised that this was the wrong way for a nuke to explode, it always starts with the fire and then the mushroom-cloud comes along. If the symbols that I have been used to from earlier dreams is valid, then this "Nuke" means that some sort of dissaster is on the way for france and its capital. And since the cloud was seen below it could mean that one of the leaders of france is targeted perhaps the president, and since the fire also were seen from below it could possibly mean that some lower ranking person or persons is behind it. Denmark could also be facing some sort of unrest, possibly we will get of easy this time round:

Its not the sort of dream you want to wake up from when its your birthday. I think I will have to send a complaint to the dreamdepartment ;-).

I am sending a link to a musicvideo with some dramatic music from a Danish Band, Carpark North: It has just been released:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids..individual&videoid=41953171

I hope that you are well and that your health is improving.

Friendly greetings

Michael Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'annemarc
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Hi Mike,

Ike may do to Texas what it did to Louisiana in 2005. We will know on the weekend. If it does to Florida or Texas instead what happens in my dream vision, McClellan (4/28/01)
http://www.newprophecy.net/dreamwindows14.htm, major cities like Tampa and Miami may vanish under walls of water several hundred feet high and mounting.

The other "two eights and a nine" for this year, September 9, 2008, is nearly over here in the US, without incident. All that remain now is August 8, 2009: probably when Russia will invade Europe and Israel. Still, as you point out in your other letter, there is the particle acceleration test tomorrow.

Freak tornadoes have occurred elsewhere in Europe over the last few years. I have linked to such reports. But I am not sure about Denmark ... but it could still happen.

The nuclear cloud in Paris you saw was likely both real and symbolic. You saw a flash "three times." I must tell you now that unless we veer from our present course, after the Russian invasion of Europe is repelled, the revolution in France that may begin next year will, due to Islamic intervention, become a terror in 2010 ... a second "reign of terror" under a very dreadful "little" antichrist, a French or Spanish puppet leader the Muslims will use.


Mother Shipton:

Three times shall lovely sunny France
Be led to play a bloody dance
Before the people shall be free
Three tyrant rulers shall she see.



The first time happened in 1789, resulting in the terror from 1793 to 1794. The second one comes soon, and it will see the fiery (probably nuclear) destruction of Paris by its own people. In one prophecy by Pere Nechtou:


During this revolution, which shall very likely be general, and not confined to France, Paris shall be destroyed so completely that, twenty years afterwards, fathers will promenade their children over the ruins, and they will ask what place that was; to satisfy their questions, they will tell them:
"My child, here was a great city; God destroyed it, because of its crimes."


It shall be rebuilt, however; Nostradamus says it shall. The third and final Terror to come to France will not occur until the end of human history as we know it: the time when a beast and false prophet shall reign and usher in Armageddon.

Those are the three flashes of fire you saw: three upheavals and reigns of terror that will plague France and its city. The mushroom cloud however also tells you that Paris will be destroyed one time only by a nuclear weapon or device during one of the three upheavals.

Thanks for the Carpark North link Mike. Will check it out. Meantime, I do like the latest single from Coldplay.

Cheers,

Mike

 

Ring of fire

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
richard tassey
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:16 AM

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/25aug_nlc.htm go to this link
Go to this link, The clouds are at the right height for the ring of fire, The color of the clouds are the right color. NASA is wondering why we have them up that high.They say they contain water and may be when the ring happens,it drops water infested with bacteria. I thought It was strange enough to bring up .. infested with microbes. We will see, I do know that it is close So get ready ...
Richard Greywolf tassey .. I took this pic at 3am ... I have many more of these .. Different shapes that look human .. I will let you go .. NASA is asking what are clouds doing up that high

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Hi Richard,

You may be right about this. But I do have to remind you that, despite the fact that these clouds continue to be a mystery, they have been being seen regularly since the 19th century (1800s). Also, elsewhere in the article it says, "The first sightings do coincide with the Industrial Revolution.." The Industrial Revolution began in 1750. That is a long time!

The one circular image on the site I did see I would expect to look like a ring because it was shot over the north pole.

In any event, these clouds may have something to do with the ring of fire you have seen. Time will tell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

catastrophe seen

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Guardian
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:21 PM
Subject: catastrophe seen

I have had dreams since I was young lasting up through adulthood of a meteor impact in the pacific basin fracturing the pacific plate. The result is a loss of much of the west coast and a major rearanging of the rest of the country. This is going to sound really wierd in fact it took me almost two years to tell my wife but I was told that we were going to have 7 years of plenty to be followed by catastrophe. I finally got up the guts to tell my wife, after telling her I wanted to see if there were by chance any predictions for the year 2012 and whoa found a lot. I have since been shown that in the year that it happens it will be before the harvest of any plants so early summer or possibly spring of that year. Hard to tell which one because it looks the same here at both times but it wasnt wet and raining so I tended toward early summer ie end of May or some time in June. Meaning one cannot count on setting up food stores or hay that year so it must be done in the previous year.

Thank you for your time
Guardian
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Hi Guardian,

Your instincts serve you well. I myself have arrived earlier this year with the belief that things won't go bad until 2012 (or maybe not for another 28 years) rather than 2009. Yet Russia's actions demonstrate that a 2009 climax is still possible if we are not careful.

From a base 7 perspective I can tell you this (and it will be posted on my site): 2012 is aligned with 1816, the "year without a summer." So I agree with your conclusion. This could easily happen if a supervolcano like Toba erupts. It would have to be Toba, because the consequences of a Yellowstone eruption for America would be too terrible to contemplate.

An asteroid of just the right size, such as you have envisioned, impacting in the Pacific would make more sense though, for that would cause the western shelf of the US to fall into the ocean as well as create a kind of nuclear winter.

Mike

 

Russia

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Ivan
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:01 PM
Subject: Russia

Hi Mike, how are you keeping, well i hope, at this moment in time i have a very bad eye infection and am quiet run down, it's getting to the point in England that a temporary job never mind a permanent is hard to come by. The EU have backed down over Russia, fearful that Natural Gas and Oil will be cut off from Europe, Again the French and Germans have let everybody down once again, for they get 1/3 of their fuel from Russia. The Chancellor of Britain says that we face the worse economical down turn for 60 years! using the word recession but not the "D" word Depression saying that we face a severe crime wave due to the economical conditions and the Russians know America has a war on two fronts and are in the middle of a political impasse whoever gets in. Starlin did the same after 1945 took land, when he knew that the world had no stomach for another fight, and Putin has timed it just right! So the prophecy of the prophetess of Bulgaria Vanga, may just be right, Russia will come to the forefront of a certain amount of world domination led by the glorious "Vladimir" but will finally over step the mark and meet their fate on the hills of the Golan Heights Ezekiel 38 and 39.
God bless
ivan.
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Hi Ivan,

This letter is intended to cover the last several emails you mailed me. Goodness knows there is more you sent previously I must consider.

I am all too aware of the problems you are all having in the UK. It is quite terrible. Some of the people I know who live in the UK talk about the trouble with the economy and the worsening crime (teens and twenty-something punks attacking and murdering bums, the poor, or people just in the wrong place at the wrong time and "trashing" them for the fun of it .. disgusting), and the rising food and petrol prices ... It is little wonder either there is so much anger directed at the Muslims moving into the UK .. I understand the government bends over backwards to give them housing, good jobs with good pay, and leaves you, the average citizen, paying the bill .. not to mention those money-wasters living at Windsor Castle who are not even proper English. Prince Charles actually wants to turn Great Britain into a Muslim country?? Ha ha ha, what a loon! With times as hard as they are, it is little wonder Christianity is fast becoming a minority religion, with rises in paganism and satanism. But who can blame the people for turning against a witless prime minister like Gordon Brown, the greedy old Queen, and a god who seems to be on permanent holiday??

Anyway, just wanted to let you know I am aware it is hard there. Here in the US things have not reached such extremes yet, but we do not have very far to go to get there! Again, too, it depends on what part of the country one lives in. Where I live is the most depressed part of the entire country and has been since the late 1970s ...

Well, Putin is definitely going to make things worse for Europe as a whole and especially Great Britain. It is no accident either that his hand-picked successor, for that is what he truly is, Dmitri Medvedev, was (or still is) head of the Russian oil conglomerate GASCOM. What does it say in Revelation near the beginning about "wheat" costing so much, but "spare the OIL and the wine"? Looks like the time of the fourth horseman is drawing near as this war of aggression, religion, and territorialism (read "war on terror") becomes a war for oil as well! See how the Russian Vladimir plays America's "terrorism" card every time he needs a pretext to invade another country or oblast. How convenient terrorists the Chechens were whenever Russia had to "prove" to the world that they had a problem too with Muslim fanatics and terrorism. And, of course, the Georgians were acting as terrorists this time around against the innocent South Ossetians, Putin argues. And inside every South Ossetian, we should all know (according to the puppet Medvedev), is a proud Russian trying to break free. So now we have witnessed our first successful Russian war of annexation, the first of many to come.

Ivan, I been reading the Bulgarian blind prophetess Vanga (that you recommended I read).
LINKS:
http://www.mnweekly.ru/local/20080606/55332043.html
http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/03-02-2006/75360-Vanga-0
Her very accurate prophecies of Gorbachev and Reagan ushering in a new peace between their countries, the doom of the nuclear submarine Kursk, and the catastrophe of 911 not withstanding, she seemed to completely avoid predicting a world war ... let alone a Gog and Magog war against Israel. Even with "Vladimir" being the greatest world leader, it is only because Russia "survives" and escapes massive flooding (Planet X?) the rest of the world must suffer. “Everything will melt away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir , the glory of Russia are the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive, it will dominate the world. (1979)

It is very obvious she does not see a global war happening anytime soon or else she would not have predicted the following:

“The trains will start flying in 2018. They will be powered by the Sun. Earth will take a rest since they will stop extracting oil.” (1960)

It is hard to believe technology will be that advanced in 2018, even if the worst stage of World War III is over by 2010 (if the Russian blitzkrieg happens in 2009) or 2013 (if the Russian blitzkrieg happens in 2012). After the Russian invasion of Europe is repelled by "yellow dust" and the Russian invasion of the Middle East, especially of Israel, by "fire" (from God?), so that only 1/6 of the "glorious" Russian army remains, the Muslims will go on fighting in southern Europe while the civilians fall prey to revolution, civil war, and mob violence. History shows that such afflicted countries take roughly 3 or 4 years to straighten themselves out and at least another 1 or 2 years to address and purge the foreign influences. Then after all of that, 50% of the time such countries then become vulnerable to giving rise to a dictator (or a change in types of dictators if there was a dictator partly or entirely responsible for the revolution or civil war).

Thus, if Vanga's prophecy for 2018 is true, then we must manage to avoid having a world war. This is entirely possible. It is the third path I have mentioned the world may take that is backed up by a whole batch of other prophecies (some from Old Europe, some from the Great Pyramid, some from Jeanne Dixon, some from Nostradamus, etc) that place a global war beginning in Europe around 2038. And of course we already know the asteroid Apophis will plow into the earth on April 13, 2036 unless science finds a way to stop it. Of course this could be World War IV ... that was always my initial impression. However, if we can prevent a global war now, we might postpone World War III until 2038.

I also do not buy the idea that the G-8 is what is meant by the following:
“We are witnessing the events of paramount significance. Two big leaders shook hands. But we have to wait for a long time before the Eighth One will come forth and sign a final peace agreement on Earth.” (January 1988)

This reminds me of the way fans of Nostradamus can get carried away with their interpretations, substituting organisations, wars, revolts, animals, planetary objects, and all kinds of things for what is clearly intended to be a human figure. When read in the context of the two big leaders, who are likely Gorbachev and Reagan, "the Eighth One" is obviously an eighth Russian ruler, with Gorbachev being the first. That makes Yeltsin the second, Putin the third, and now Medvedev the fourth. I have absolutely no problem believing the Eighth One literally means the eighth Russian president, meaning there are three more to be suffered after Medvedev before the eighth one comes.

I am quite impressed with Vanga's accuracy. However, what she has thus far revealed is not useful for purposes of knowing what will happen if a world war breaks out with Russia on one side with Iran and the Muslims, and the powers of The West on the other.

Oh. by the way, I cannot save a freeze frame image from a video on the Internet that is pasted onto a Microsoft Works Word Processor file either, Ivan. I don't know why, but it will not work. Even if it says it is a jpeg, the machine apparently does not recognise it as such.

That pic of Putin with Gadhafi will prove quite useful. Thanks for the link. I have Putin with Assad and Ahmadinejad.

There is one problem with Ezekiel's vision being realised in our time: there is still Jeremiah's vision of a world war in the Middle East to contend with. In his scenario, the bad guy who attacks Israel (after Israel has destroyed Damascus) is from Iraq and has the aid and support of Iran. This future Iraqi leader, or king of Babylon, actually destroys most of Jordan, a small portion of Saudi Arabia, the northern part of Israel, conquers Israel, and enslaves the population or drives them out as refugees. Jeremiah only vaguely hints of countries outside of the Middle East (ie, possibly Europe, Russia, US) until the period after Iran and Iraq have jointly conquered the Middle East. Then the nations from afar will gather together and surround Iraq, utterly destroying that part known as Babylon (the central portion) or else the entire country of Iraq. Then they attack Iran, destroy a small portion, and drive many Iranians out of the country to live as refugees. Iran (Persia) then becomes a Christian colony. How long it will remain as such is not mentioned.

Note that if there was a Russian-Iranian invasion of Europe, it was carefully not discussed by Jeremiah or not revealed to him. Instead, that part of the war was revealed to Daniel in Chapter 8 and Chapter 11:1-4. However, if Russia were to invade Israel in this same war too, there is no mention of it by Jeremiah (and that would not be overlooked or avoided). Thus, it is likely that Ezekiel's war is yet another world war or else it is part of the aftermath of the world war, after Europe has dealt with Iraq (Babylon) and Iran (Elam).

The above scenario is consistent with Nostradamus' view of a reckoning against Iraq and Iran at the conclusion of a world war by "the King of Europe" (who resembles a gryphon), and also by figures named Chiren/Chyen and his successor Ogmios (either who is likely to be this "King of Europe").

However, there is also a chance that Jeremiah's war happens long after Ezekiel's. Thus 1) Ezekiel and Daniel 8 and 11:1-4 may be two facets of World War III and Jeremiah may be about World War IV OR 2) Jeremiah and Daniel 8 and 11:1-4 may be two facets of World War III and Ezekiel may be about World War IV OR 3) Daniel 8 and 11:1-4 might be World War III, Jeremiah might be World War IV, and Ezekiel may be World War V.

Also, none of these conflicts discussed in the Bible have anything to do with Armageddon, yet another world war (VI or VII), which appears in the Book of Revelation. The only other prophecy that likely addresses Armageddon is Daniel 11:40-45 and 12:1.

Obviously we cannot be sure whether it is Ezekiel's/Daniel's war or Jeremiah's war that is coming soon, or all three, so we have to be prepared for anything!

Take care of that infection, Ivan, and may God Bless,

Mike

 

Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

hi Mike

Louie from Australia here. How you going? I hope all is well with you.

Just wanted to let you know of two celebrities news recently that you might want to look into for your celebrity Deaths and mishaps sections. One in particular whose name was Christie is on the list.

British born Aussie singer Christie Allen dies of cancer.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24175897-5005961,00.html

Here is another article that might be of interest - depending on your views on its nature and also on his name. I do realise he is not huge actor - just one of those soap stars, but just in case.

Home and Away star Todd Lasance hurt in Sydney car crash

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24176427-5012974,00..html

Just thought I'd keep you update and I will try to do more in the future.

Ta

Louie

(I know you won't but just the same, please don’t include my work email addy ta)
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Hi Louie,

Long time since you last wrote. How are you?

As you may know I have only gotten around to putting up the new Celebrity Deaths and Mishaps page about 1 August. I can see right now that Christie Allen's death for sure was prefigured by the prominent name sound influence of dead actress Christine Larson. Not sure about Todd Lasance.

Thanks for notifying me about these. No celebrity is too obscure for The Celebrity Deaths and Mishaps page, not usually anyway!

Thanks again and Cheers,


Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louis
To: Mike
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=622178

Here's another one - Mark Priestley's co-star Joelene Anderson hurt in car accident - third such incident to hit the series All Saints in 3 months.

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: 'Mike'
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

Hi Mike

yeah it has been a while.

I had a life changing experience last year and I decided not to have internet access for 18 months so I can cope with the changes I am experiencing. Soon I plan to get a new PC and have access to internet again and then I can be more in touch.

recently I accidentally came on to this link -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2007 were you aware of these links like this that might be fo help to you?

And finally, here's a link to one of the much loved actors who committed suicide overnight. Mark Priestley.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24254076-5001021,00.html. He was one of the reasons why the Aussie series all saints enjoying a new surge of success.

I hope you are doing well and look after yourself.

Louie
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Thanks Louie,

Slow down though, man. I haven't even had time to work Christie Allen onto the Celeb page yet (she will get on for certain), let alone all these others (assuming they fit the proper profiles, etc) *LOL*.

Kathryn, my other reader, will be away for a few weeks, so it is just me answering the emails for now, so please bear with me.

Thanks again,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

Hi there mate

Erm sorry two more Aussie well known celebrities dies (although they were in their 80s when they died)

Respected actor/director Michael Pate -
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24280913-2902,00.html

Aussie TV gardening Guru Kevin Heinze -
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24281309-2902,00.html

In regards to Mark Priestley's death, your comments on the website regarding previous celebrities suicides by jumping from the building gets higher each time really amazed me (but not surprised really). I sincerely hope there wont be any more but I doubt it as history usually proves it. On a similar matter, last year an Australian newsreader Charmaine Drugan also committed suicide by jumping off a well known suicide cliff near Sydney. She incidentally had also been suffering from depression since her teens I believe (
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22701243-5001021,00.html)

It may be unrelated or a bit too late but just want to keep you informed. My question is: is it possible that a newsreader's death could trigger future newsreaders' death or it don’t discriminate anyone? This has always been on my mind ever since I learned of Charmaine's death and the murder of Jill Dando.

Please do take care mate

Louie
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Hi Louie,

That is very sad. Charmaine was a very pretty girl.

Yes, I was expecting some sort of fallout over Jill Dando's death in 1999, but never found it in 2006. Apparently this was an adjacent fulfillment, happening the year immediately following 2006 (2007). If true, then the Dando-Dragun deathline is only being established. We won't know for sure until 2013 or 2014. I would not expect a gap this soon (seven years going by without a repetition). If this is a new deathline, either Dando's year (1999) will become a past adjacent for 2000, or Dragun's year will be a late adjacent for what should have happened in 2006.

There was a kind of repetition in 2006 I suppose when freelance writer Jill Carroll (note the same first name as Jill Dando), who was on assignment for the Christian Science Monitor, was kidnapped 7 January in western Baghdad. They threatened to shoot her in the head or decapitate her live on videotape. However, she was later released unharmed.

At best that was a close call, bit it is also a bit of a stretch moving from a glamorous TV presenter to an on-the-field female journalist. It most certainly is now that it turns out that the very beautiful Australian presenter Charmaine Dragun committed suicide in 2007.

Of course, we must bear in mind that there was one other notable death of a TV news presenter. This was the case of news presenter Chris Hubbock who committed suicide live on television in 1970.

Hubbock's last words, by the way, were
"And now, in keeping with Channel 40's policy of always bringing you the latest in blood and guts, in living colour, you're about to see another first -- an attempted suicide." After uttering that fateful warning to the home audience, Hubbock shot herself in the head live on the air during the broadcast.

The trouble here is that if Jill Dando was linked to this event, her death should hav occurred in 1998 and not 1999. Of course, as an adjacent fulfillment that is fine. But then the line would have to be established as either 1970-1998(1999adjacent)-2005-2012-etc or else 1970(adjacent)-1999-2006-2012-etc. A second late adjacent (2007 instead of 2006) for a first late adjacent (1999 instead of 1998) works against base 7 logic since the 1997 event would be TWO years off the line and not one.

Ergo Chris Hubbock is likely not on the same line as Dando and Dragun. It becomes even more obvious that Dando and Dragun belong together on the same line and not Hubbock because 1) both were nationally famous, whereas Hubbock was local, and 2) Dando and Dragun are similar names, both beginning with the letter "D", prominent "a" and "n", and two syllables.

When I have a chance I may post this tragedy as a base 7 alert on the 2007 Part Two page.

Also, this deathline will no longer be one related to homicide only since Charmaine committed suicide. This opens up the possibility that anything can happen, including car/plane crash, accidental overdose, ski accident, etc. Eventually when these deathlines have been established over a long enough period, even death due to natural causes can end up being a reason.

Regarding the two celebs in their 80s, I no longer deal with celebrities who are quite old, save for those whose names are still on the master prediction lists I compiled back when I was not following an age limit. Theoretically when they all die off, there will be no more old celebs on the lists. Name lists are tailored from the master list to match each current year's name sounds (so all the names on the master list are never on the page each year obviously, just the ones that match up). I no longer add new names of old celebs still living to the master list either. In rare instances when I have a very strong feeling an elderly celeb may die who is not on the list, i might place their name on the page, but that is very very rare (I think it has only happened once). Reports of elderly celebs dying are completely ignored no matter how famous unless their names happen to be on the prediction lists.

Take care and Cheers,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies

Hi Mike

thank you for your detailed explanation indeed. Charmaine was very nice and sensitive lady.

Yeah when I first heard of Charmaine Drugan's death I was reminded of Jill Dando. I kept getting the feeling Charmaine's death could be linked to Jill Dando's death but I wasn't sure mainly because of the way they died and to a lesser degree the date (although I had read your explanation on the year adjacent subject, I am not 100 percent sure ). Like I said before it has always been on my mind and wanted to ask you about it. Until now I didn’t have access to the internet for 18 months or so. So I thought OK just ask Mike whether the newsreader deaths could be repeated. And with your detailed explanation it is very possible. As for Jill Carroll my gut feeling is she is not really linked to this timeline. Hence why I thought I should let you know of Charmaine Drugan.

I recall reading an article about Hubbock's suicide and thought my God he actually did that LIVE on air. But those words he uttered was very chilling indeed.

About the elderly celebrities (80 yo +) I thought of your explanation after I emailed you about the celebrities but I just thought just in case.

Thank you again and look forward to hearing from you as always

Louie

 

Putin

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
anonymous
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Putin

Mike,

Is it possible that Putin's true rain could have started with his appointment to Prime Minister and he is the third Antichrist? Nostradamus talks about an appearance in 1999 of the King of Terror(Putin).

The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror(Putin).
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols(Dmitry Medvedev)
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.


The Great king of the Mongols could be (Dmitry Medvedev). Resuricated by Putin to conquer the world?

Didn't Nostradamus say that no one would have predicted or prepared for this considering Putin lead most of the world to believe he was a man of peace. Lately he has been anything but that. Nostradamus also talks about an agreement broken that aides in the start of WW3. The US and Russia have broken many past deals under the Bush administration.(Missile shield, Nato agreements) I do believe whoever is the third antichrist WW3 is well underway..
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Hello,

Yes, it is possible that Putin is the third antichrist or, should I say to be more accurate, part of the third antichrist.

Neither of Nostradamus first two antichrists were a single man but, rather, a movement, revolution, and related beneficiaries of movements or revolutions.

The first antichrist was the French Revolution and its darkest stage, The Reign of Terror. Out of the tumult that was the revolution and terror came the overthrow of the Directory in a coup and its leading personage, Napoleon Bonaparte, who become Emperor Napoleon the First and conduct a series of conflicts in Europe known as the Napoleonic wars.

So, who was the first antichrist?? Actually, every leading figure behind the revolution, the terror, and the Napoleonic era. Thus, Jean Paul Marat, Georges Jacques Danton, and Maximilien Isadore Robespierre as the Revolution's leaders, with Robespierre ultimately becoming the leading personage behind the Reign of Terror. After his death on the guillotine and the winding down of the terror, General Napoleon Bonaparte managed his way into the new government, overthrew it, then earned his title of emperor after a series of military victories against the enemies of France, after which he began a campaign of conquest. Much evil was suffered by innocent people because of these men, and during the Terror the Church was persecuted like it had not been since the early imperial age of Rome under the emperors. Many Christian citizens were subjected to horrible tortures and executions during the Terror. The guillotine was probably the most humane method of extermination in comparison. Under the Napoleon, the Catholic Churches were ransacked, nuns raped, monks murdered, and the Pope perecuted and taken hostage, dying in capitivity.

The second antichrist, Nostradamus identified as a movement that would cause great war and bloodshed in Europe. Its symbol was the crooked cross and its principal leaders were a butcher from Italy (Benito Mussolini), also identified as Il Duce; a leader born at the beginning of the age (1889), also called Hister (Adolf Hitler); a traitor in France (either the old appeaser Marshall Petain or the Nazi colloborater, Pierre Laval), and a "great one from Asia" (Hideki Tojo).

It is easy to say who the leading personage of these various figures that made up the "second antichrist" is today. If we like we can say it was Adolf Hitler. But to Nostradamus they were all a part of the second antichrist.

Looking back, it is a bit harder, I think, to determine who the leading antichrist figure was in the first manifestation. Napoleon was a great conqueror, but Robespierre was a madman who caused hundreds of thousands to die horribly and wickedly.

So, is Putin and Medvedev the Third Antichrist? We shall see.

I did argue that Putin could be the 'king of terror' back in 1999, as you have, because he became prime minsiter in August and first led a war against Dagestan then Chechnya in September. Then again, Clinton and Nato conducted an atrocious air war against Serbia over Kosovo from March through June of that year, and it was quite dreadful to see. I have never been able to resolve whether Nostradamus foresaw Clinton's war or Putin's war for July 1999, since the Kosovo war ended in June and the Chechnya war did not begin until August. July was a neat dividing barrier between two very horrible and lengthy air campaigns.

Medvedev will not truly become 'king of the Mongols' unless the Soviet Union is re-established. Then he would be leader over the five Mongol-Turkic-Tatar Central Asian states. On the other hand, China prospered under Bill Clinton's administration who shared much of our technology with them (and looke the other way when China stole additional secrets).

In any event, don't look towards one man to be the personification of the third antichrist just yet. I may believe it is Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and I may agree that Putin and Medvedev can be added to the list. But there shall be others yet to come. Also, Nostradamus warns that "twice put up and twice cast down, the East shall also weaken the West." This is one of many key clues that the West shall fight two wars against the Muslim axis. The first war is only now beginning to shape up. if this first war is World War III then obviously the second will be a World War IV. Nostradamus says of the second war that it is waged by "the great Empire of Antichrist" which will be "those of the Attila and Xerxes come down" to launch an invasion of Europe from the east and straight downwards from the north. At that time Russia will be a conquered nation living under the Eastern antichrist's rule. That does not sound like today. Xerxes is certainly associated with Persia (Iran), but Attila is associated with Central Asia ... and there are currently no prominent figures in the former Soviet Central Asian states. Central Asia is unlikely to become a danger to anyone until the 2020s amd 2030s.

Thus, it shall be a long ride before history decides who the greatest of the figures of the third antichrist will be. Remember that one of them shall lead a war lasting twenty-seven years. Nostradamus says he will begin his war against Russia in 2025. The invasion of Europe will not take place until 2044. Twenty-seven years comes out to 2025 to 2052.

There is a remote chance we will prevent World War III from happening now or soon. If we do, perhaps under President John McCain, who will be like Reagan in 1980 and Eisnhower in 1952, we may put it off another 28 year cycle of the calendar. Thus, World War III may not become a concern of the West until 2038 because even if Russia is at war in its own backyard from 2025 to 2037, the West will be at peace. Therefore, the 27-year war will either be a postponed WW3 or else a second global war of this century, WW4.

So, in summation, the Third Antichrist is actually "the great Empire of Antichrist" currently being formed by Iran and Russia. Eventually the territories of Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan will merge it.

The name of the leading personage of this Third Antichrist now developing will not be agreed upon until after the 27-year war has been fought. The first antichrist lasted from 1789 to 1815. The second antichrist lasted from 1922 to 1945 (Mussolini came to power in October 1922). The third antichrist may have begun with Ahmadinejad in Iran in 2005, Medvedev in Russia in 2008, or Putin in Russia in 1999. Whichever is true, the great Empire of Antichist will not come to utter ruin until 2052. Thus, the years of the third antichrist are either 1999 to 2052; 2005 to 2052; or 2008 to 2052. And at some point during that period, a very terrible personage will start a war that lasts 27 years.

Mike


 

Gog and Magog/Ark of the Covenant

 

----- Original Message -----
From:
Ivan
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:35 AM
Subject: Gog and Magog/Ark of the Covenant.

http://www.debka.com/index1.php
Hi Mike, I think we have our Gog and Magog identified now ! Russia and Syria, both are situated to the north of the land of Israel, accompanied by (Persia) Iran, Libya,Ethiopia Togarmah (Turkey) and Gomer (Former Islamic states of the Soviet Union) Ezek:38v1-12, possibly, Rifaat al Assad comes after a middle Eastern war occurs to bring peace to the Earth (Israel) Rev:6v1-2, for in Rev:6v4 peace is taken away from the earth.

Concerning another matter, "The Ark of the Covenant" in 2Macc2 v 4, it says, "It was also contained in the same writing, that the prophet, being warned of God, commanded the tabernacle and the ark to go with him, as he went forth into the mountain (Jeremiah's cave) where Moses climbed up, (mount Nebo) and saw the heritage of God." 2Macc2v5-6 states
"And when Jeremiah came thither, he found a hollow cave, wherein he laid the tabernacle, and the ark, and the altar of incense, and so stopped the door." And some of those that followed him came to mark the way,but they could not find it. 2Macc2v7, states " which when Jeremiah perceived, he blamed them, saying, As for this place, it shall be unknown until the time that God gather his people again together (1948) and receive them unto mercy".

God bless Mike,
ivan.
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Hi Ivan,

Thanks for the Debka page and the many links to stories I will find of use, two in particular. The other one about Russia considering nukes for Syria, Mediterranean, and Baltic Sea I already have. I believe the link is posted on the Gog War prophecy I have at the bottom of the 2008 Part Three page (
http://www.newprophecy.net/2008part3.htm).

I am always a little hesitant to call it the "Gog and Magog" war because technically the Gog and Magog war does not occur until the end of the millennium of Christ when Satan deceives the nations and launches one last battle against New Jerusalem, after which he is thrown into the Lake of Fire. So I tend to call the one for our time Ezekiel's War of Gog, Land of Magog or simply the War of Gog or Gog's war.

Then again, I suppose we could just as easily call them Gog and Magog War I and Gog and Magog War II. Too bad the writer's of the Old Testament did not think in such modern terms, it would have simplified everything.

Anyway, I believe this war may already have begun. We are led to believe that Gog and Magog 1 is when Russia (and it would appear Syria and Iran) move against Israel, but actually that is the climax of the war. I have always thought that Russia will make other moves in the south before going to war against Israel, including taking Armenia and Azerbaijan by force, re-invading Afghanistan and driving out the US and Nato, possibly aiding the Taliban, so as to set up bases, warring with Nato member Turkey, warring with the US over Iran, Iraq, and possession of the Arab oil fields. All of that would be an early stage of the War of Gog (or Gog and Magog War 1), leading to the inevitable attempt to invade and assault Israel.

I would like to say that I do not know if this war is for our time or not. It all depends on whether certain key figures are put into place. If Obama loses his bid for president and McCain wins, we may see World War III postpone for another 28 years. McCain is an old leader like Reagan and Eisenhower and prospects for him winning in 2008 are similar to what they were in 1980 and 1952. If he does, things will not be set up again for a WW3 scenario until after Apophis strikes the planet in 2036. If that happens, global war and Planet X will not happen until the period 2038 through 2052. In that particular configuration, a Gog and Magog war is less likely and will not happen until the next global war, which will not occur until 2193. However, if Obama wins with Hillary Clinton on the ticket, then it is all over for sure by 2012, with the beast (or beast archetype) ruling from June 2009 until December 2012; or March 2012 until September 2015; or June 2013 until December 2016. The same if Obama picks Ray Mabus or any female as his running mate. If Obama picks a male, and that male is not Ray Mabus, and wins, it is a wild card situation.

As you can see, there is a long view of prophecy or a short view. Either can happen and still fulfill the prophecies of scripture to the letter.

In any event, yes, obviously Persia will be united with Russia and Syria against Israel. Again, what bothers me about this is that Ezekiel only gives Persia a subsidiary role. If we go to Daniel Chapter 8 and 11, Persia is the major player and the dynamic of the coming war is east-west not north-south. The same is true in Jeremiah. In that great future conflict it is Elam (Iran) and its ally Babylon (Iraq) that does all the damage in the Middle East, including a successful attack and decimation of northern Israel and temporary occupation of the remainder of Israel until "the nations" from abroad or foreign nations (Europe) gather to punish Iraq and Iran, utterly destroying Iraq (Babylon) and turning Iran into a colony.

Unfortunately there is no mention of a great nation from the north parts going against Israel in either Daniel or Jeremiah. Thus, I can see Daniel's war and Jeremiah's war working together as aspects of the same war, but I cannot see either of them working with Ezekiel's war. That is why I am not 100% convinced that this is the time of the war of Gog. Let us not forget that Russia has a bigger beef with Nato right now (the West) having cut ties with the organisation today, then it has with Israel (the south).

Nevertheless, it is possible for this to be a north-south war and an east-west war both:

Hepidanus v.St.Gallen (1010-1088) ~

From North to South, the world will be split into two mighty hosts. The North will march against the South, the son against the father, and bring misfortune with him across the mountains as the night follows the day... A gloomy cloud will appear, and a terrible tempest will come forth from this cloud. It will consume a third of mankind, still living then. And it will destroy a third of all the crops, villages, and cities, and there will be a great misery and lamentation.

A mighty empire will vanish thereafter, and another will take its place. From the East blows a storm, from the West a hurricane howls; woe to those who come into the sphere of this bloody whirlpool. Thrones a thousand years old will fall from the height... between the Rhine, the Elbe, and the Danube there will be a vast morgue, and a landscape of vultures and ravens... When a sign of fire will appear in the heavens, the time will have come close for these days to engulf humanity.


As you can see, Ivan, St Gallen resolves the issue of an east-west war vs north-south war by prophesying that both will occur. It would appear the Gog invasion of the Middle East and then Israel and subsequent destruction of 5/6 of Russia's army will come first followed by the east-west war between the Muslims, led by Iran and parts of the former Soviet Union, and the Europeans. It may well be that when Russia attacks Israel it also attacks Germany, Austria, and Italy when the 5/6 of its army is destroyed by the yellow dust defence launched by Western Europe and by fire from sky brought down by God Himself. But the war will not end because the Muslims will still be around to plague Europe for several years more.

The "sign of fire in the heavens" I take to be Planet X.

It would appear that the powers that be are planning this war as a "phony Armageddon" so that the beast (Rifaat al-Assad) can be easily placed on his throne and his false prophet (Rabbi Yosef Dayan) as the new messiah. No one will question it, believing Christ's kingdom on earth has begun by its ministers (Assad, who establishes a covenant with Israel for seven years, and Dayan, ordained as king of Israel and a new messiah) when it will only be a counterfeit reign.

Regarding the ark of the covenant, I think Nostradamus foresaw the time and circumstances when it shall be discovered:


Quatrain 7.1

The ark of the treasure by Achilles deceived,
The quadrangle discovered in the documents:
The Royal deed, the intention will be known,
A body seen hanging in view of the populace.



Many interpreters of Bible prophecy believe that the discovery of the Ark will coincide with rebuilding of the Jerusalem temple at the site of the current Temple Mount, signaling the imminent arrival of seven years of tribulation and the ascendancy of the beast of Revelation.
The mythical Achilles symbolizes the king of the north as he appears in Daniel Chapter 11. There will be fierce competition between the two warring factions, a northern federation (northern Europe as defined in classical terms along with nations of the former Seleucid empire and adjacent kingdoms) and a southern league (Mediterranean Europe, northern Africa and the Arabian/former Ptolemaic Middle East) to discover and acquire the Lost Ark. It will fall into the hands of the king of the north who will hold it for a time before delivering it to the Israeli government as a diplomatic gesture. The hung corpse will belong to an executed agent or ambassador of the south.

Notice that we still do not know the location of the discovery, only that the ark is found.

Thanks Ivan. Hopefully I will find the time to update the Rifaat and Dayan articles. I have the Gog, Land of Magog prediction as far as a possible dating for the early stages and final stage at three locations (2007 Part Two, 2008 Part Three, and 2009 Part Three). Unfortunately in 2009 Part Three it is buried in the World War III and Planet X article. I must isolate it and place it in the August or September 2009 section.

With any luck, this war will be postponed.

Thanks for sending your views and the links along, Ivan.

Take care,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From:
Ivan
To:
mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: Gog and Magog/Ark of the Covenant.


Hi Mike, nicely put, Gog and Magog (part 1 for Ezekiel 38v1-12,) and Gog and Magog (part 2 for Rev:20v7-9) I think we are most certainly facing part 1 now, (please read today's alpha omega report on the very latest on a very serious threat facing the world since the bay of pigs incident), Mike, i like the idea that you picked up on the 9th of AV. Correct me if i am wrong but didn't ww1 start on the 9th of AV or was declared on that day!

Mike, i was trying to find the root name for Putin, but the nearest i came up with was Rasputin which means an immoral person from the common noun rasputa but then i maybe trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and seeing something that isn't there.

Some commentators see the name Rosh as the ancient name for Russia, Meshech as Moscow and Tubal as Tobolsk i'm keeping an open mind on that one, but isn't it strange the the two countries to the north of Israel have now, or will be signing a millitary pact together. There is no doubt in my mind that we have Gog and Magog, even if it is only as you say part 1. nicely put.

God bless Mike, thanks for the e-mail,
ivan.


 

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