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12th 2012
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:00 PM
Subject: December 12th 2012
Hi Mike,
I just wondered what your thoughts are on the Mayan prophecy of
December 12th 2012 also did Nostradamus say anything about this
time ?
All I can find out is that the earth will be in the centre of the
universe...all the plants will be inline and the " cycle
" will be complete.
Have you thought about making a page on the Mayan Prophecy or can
you give me more information ?
I have read that Nostradamus, Edgar Casey, and Mother Shipton all
point to the date as being a major change for humanity or even
the end of the earth.
Also another intresting fact that I read somewhere was that the
Mayan tribes Aztec Calendar that supposedly highly accurate and
prophetic was written in the year 3797bc, I dont know if this is
true but I do know that Nostradamus named the year 3797 in his
prophecies.
Anyway I just wondered what your thoughts are on the subject and
if you would share them with me.
Many Thanks,
Ross.
* * * * *
Hi Ross,
All I know about the Mayan calendar "end date" of
December 21, 2012 is that it is alleged by modern Internet/media
doomsayers to mark the end of time, the end of human history,
etc. In fact it marks only the end of a cycle. What these people
fail to tell you is that on December 22, 2012 the calendar
continues and a new cycle begins.
Are the planets all aligned at that time? I don't know, haven't
done the research ... the Mayan perspective seems to be rather
unique anyway since no other civilisation or religion warns or
has warned about the significance of 2012.
Edgar Cayce may have warned about 2012 in his writings, I don't
know. I have never read them all since they are quite extensive
and certainly not all concern themselves with prophecy. However,
what I do recall Cayce warning about was that earth changes would
reach a horrifying crescendo in 1998-2000 and that 2001 would see
the earth shifting its axis ... and if it did not do so in 2001,
that "a new cycle will begin." How long would the
"new cycle" be? He doesn't say.
Nostradamus and Mother Shipton say absolutely nothing about 2012
as far as I know.
I don't know about the Mayan's calendar beginning in the year
3797 BC. Never heard of that one. But Nostradamus did say the
physical destruction of our planet would occur in 3797 AD.
I get the feeling right there that some people are taking bits
and pieces of other prophecies, like Nostradamus' 3797 AD
prophecy above, and trying to attach them in some way to the
whole Mayan thing.
The only other thing I have heard about the Mayan year 2012 is
that mankind's machines, appliances, etc are supposed to rise up
against us, attacking us and rebuking us for all our
wrong-doings. Or maybe that is another Central/South American
indian prophecy.
No, there is not enough material to justify a "Mayan
Prophecy" page that I can see.
Even so, I will have two series of 2012 pages up in the near
future (and 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 too).
Sorry if I sound less than enthusiastic about the Mayan calendar
prophecy. Actually, in a way, they will be right I suppose:
according to the base 7 system, 2012 will be a very horrible year
if we manage to survive 2009.
Take care,
Mike
Sincerely
Concerned
----- Original
Message -----
From: T
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:29 PM
Subject: Sincerely Concerned
I am very concerned because your site is something my good friend
is reading every day and is very scared and upset about. He is
panicking daily worrying about a prediction coming true. Every
day he runs as far away from this city as he can and then comes
back and does it all over again the next day. I know that you
have the best intentions but how can I or you assure him that
there is reason to panic and run every day? I really need your
advice on this because he is very scared and so am I -- for him.
Thanks so much.
* * * * *
Dear T,
There are very good reasons why he should not panic.
For one thing, not everything that is predicted will come true.
Whilst I may have been right about the stock market, the invasion
of Georgia by Russia, look at Hillary Clinton: predictions, such
as mine, that she would win the presidency failed, and some very
major figures in prediction (such as John Hogue) were also
absolutely certain she would. What is more there was established
prophecy, such as the tenth prophecy of William Branham (with the
first nine prophecies successfully fulfilled since they were made
in 1933), that indicated a woman would win the election and be
supported by the women's vote. Not only did Hillary fail to win,
but even Sarah Palin failed to win the vice presidency.
The future can be changed. That is the point of my website being
there. It is not to say "Look at all the horrible things
that will happen and there is absolutely nothing we can do about
it," but rather, "look what might happen if we or our
leaders are careless and nothing is done to change it."
Aside from collective and individual responsibility for what
happens in the future, however, there are times things just do
not happen because the time is simply not right.
I hope you understand the subtle difference between predictions
and prophecies. Anyone can predict the future using various kinds
of systems, such as astrology or numerology. Prophecy, on the
other hand, is allegedly divine revelation of the future by God
or some other deity, angel, supernatural figure, etc. I make
predictions calculated by close examination of how God's perfect
number, 7, has been involved in past events recurring at
intervals of 7 years or multiples of 7 years ( such as 14, 21,
28, 35 etc). What I project is a likelihood of an event occurring
at a certain time as opposed to a prophecy of an event that will
happen for certain some day. Sometimes, however, I will see cases
where a prophecy could support my prediction and will make
mention of it. That still doesn't mean I will be right.
In any event, the following is true about the future:
1) The future is not fixed
2) Most predictions of events made using a system can be changed
or prevented from happening, some events will fail to occur at
all if the timing is wrong, many events that do happen can be
mitigated
3) The strongest prophecies, such as Bible prophecies, are not
even dated ... thus we are always guessing or estimating when
they will be fulfilled based on other clues
4) The strongest prophecies, such as those in the Book of
Revelation, will happen some day ... but the outcome of those
events that are prophesied can be changed or mitigated
I will leave you with a famous quote from a book which I often
use to illustrate the truth about future events:
The nineteenth century novelist Charles Dickens seeks to assure
his readers that the future is not set in stone, literally, in A
Christmas Carol when the central character Ebenezer Scrooge is
shown his very own headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future and
queries in great dread and trepidation: 'Are these the shadows
of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that
May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to
which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be
departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you
show me!'
Scrooge gets his answer when the spectre beckons again and
Scrooge finds himself alive and well in his bedchamber ... with
many years of a good and happier life still remaining to him.
Mike
Promised
Warrior?
----- Original
Message -----
From: David
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: Promised Warrior?
Mike
Here's a relevant prophecy from sources most Christians would
ignore. However, in my search for the truth I look at all sources
good or bad, because there is bad in the good and good in the
bad. So consider the following:
When Barack Hussein Obama (Barry Soetoro) went to mosques he
sited the prayer in Arabic, Allah is repeated many times in the
ritual.
Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help
the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?
The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a
pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a
Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar
al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum
opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.
According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's
cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and
just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a
"tall black man will assume the reins of government in the
West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth,"
the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign"
from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The
tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he
is with us."
In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack
Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and
Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet,
reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic
formula in Majlisi's tradition.
Following are some of the attributes of the 12th Imam Mahdi (=
Antichrist?) according to their own Islamic sources. Christians
should note that the resemblance to the Antichrist is striking to
say the least:
1. He will appear suddenly near the end of time in Mecca.
2. He will be descended from Mohammed.
3. He will stutter.
4. He will shine like an Israelite.
5. He will unite and reform the Muslims.
6. He will have a mole on his left or right cheek.
7. His eyebrows will mix.
8. He will rule Islam from Jerusalem for 7 years. Note that
according to Scripture, Antichrist rules the world from Jerusalem
for seven years.
9. He will have hundreds of close companions including Elijah,
Elisha, the Seven Sleepers, and al-Khidr.
10. His coming will be announced by earthquakes, sea storms, and
a fire over the sky of Basra.
11. He will be a fanatical Muslim.
12. Mahdi the archaeologist: He is called the guided one because
he will be guided to the place of the Ark. He will find the Ark
of the Covenant. A group of Jews and Christians will come to
debate him. Just as they declare victory, he will produce a copy
of the real Bible from the Ark. The Jews and Christians will then
admit that Islam was right all long and convert. Some will refuse
and be subsequently beheaded. Note that beheading is Antichrist's
preferred method of execution according to Revelation.
13. A mountain of gold will be discovered under the Euphrates.
14. The people of Iraq will help him.
15. The world will love him. Note that the world will marvel
after Antichrist.
16. He will have a gap between his tooth.
17. He will receive guidance and knowledge from Allah.
18. He will be helped by Jesus. Note that Antichrist will be
helped by the Beast. Despite the fact that Jesus is a messenger
of Allah and Mahdi is only a caliph of Allah, Jesus will pray
behind Mahdi.
19. He will be charismatic, young, and very handsome. Half the
women of Rome will convert to Islam in the hope of joining his
harem. But Antichrist lacks the desire of women.
20. He will fill the world with peace and justice.
21. A great army will march against him in Syria. However, the
earth will open up and swallow this army. Scripture calls
Antichrist the Assyrian.
22. He will receive aid from the East. Mohammed reportedly said,
"Many armies will come after me. You must join the one from
Khorasan. That is the army of the caliph."
23. Mahdi must battle Gog, Magog, and Dajjal; the Islamic
Antichrist.
24. He will be beardless.
25. He will be rich and will give wealth to the people of the
world freely. He will cause crops to grow. Antichrist and Beast
will have great power on earth.
26. His personality will be similar to Mohammed's.
Sincerely
David
* * * * *
UT
poll shows McCain, Cornyn with comfortable margins
Poll
finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim
Obama is a
Christian who was embroiled in a controversy earlier this
year about his two-decade membership in Chicago's Trinity
United Church of Christ. Yet just 45 percent of those polled
identified the Illinois senator as a Protestant.
The
Obama-is-a-Muslim confusion is caused by fallacious Internet
rumors and radio talk-show gossip. McCain went so far at one
of his town hall meetings to grab a microphone from a woman
who claimed that Obama was an Arab.
The Texas
numbers are unusual because most national polls show that
just 5 to 10 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a
Muslim — less than half the number of Texans who buy
into the debunked theories ...
It is possible
that Barack Obama may be the "tall black man (who) will
assume the reins of government in the West" commanding
"the strongest army on earth" ... but at least some of
the rest is unlikely.
... Not unless Obama makes a special peace with the Muslim world
and brings about a rapprochement with Iran. He could, after all,
be a good friend to the Muslim world without actually being a
Muslim himself.
Before I discuss the personification of the beast/Antichrist
aspect of this allow me to remind you what I think you probably
may agree to be true: for endtime prophecy to be fulfilled all
the right conditions must be met. Not one detail can fail to
occur. It is for this reason we have witnessed a string of major
national leaders or world leaders over the centuries that have
fit the role of the beast, yet have failed to fulfill the destiny
of the personification as prophesied in the Book of Revelation
and in the Book of Daniel.
Every generation the powers that be attempt to promote a
candidate, a man, who will fulfill this role. As we have seen
history demonstrate, sometimes these candidates work against the
interests of TPTB and are killed. President John F. Kennedy was a
good example of this. When he gave a speech about the existence
of secret societies and how his administration would not tolerate
the existence of such societies or their secret proceedings, he
was sending a message to TPTB that he would not follow their
dictates or grand designs but rule according to his own will, by
the letter of the law, and with the nation's best interests at
heart, first and foremost. Because of this he was assassinated.
Past would-be antichrists like Hitler could not succeed in
fulfilling the destiny of the beast because the other players,
such as the false prophet, were not in place. Not all the
chesspieces were available for the match, in other words.
The Book of Revelation, like the pertaining chapters in the Book
of Daniel, is like a recipe book: it has to be fulfilled detail
by detail from Revelation 1 all the way to Revelation 13 (the
chapter in which the beast appears). During the last 2000 years
there have been several notable close calls for "the great
earthquake" that follows the opening of the sixth seal. For
example the eruptions of Vesuvius, Krakatau, Tambora, Pelee and
the asteroid explosion at Tunguska came close to fulfilling this
prophecy because of the widespread tsunamis, tidal waves,
firestorms, strong winds, strange atmospheric effects, and
climate changes, yet all of these still fell considerably short.
Also, all events and personifications that follow from Revelation
14 through Revelation 18 and in the Book of Daniel must occur.
When someone appears to fufill a personality out of endtime
prophecy, but not all the other conditions are being met, we call
this person an archetype. Antiochus Epiphanes was the earliest
archetype for the beast/Antichrist because he lived at the wrong
time: he lived and died long before Christ was even born and not
during the latter days or time of the end. Napoleon and Hitler
were archetypes because other conditions in the Books of
Revelation and Daniel were not met. When JFK became president he
met certain requirements. The famous actress Marilyn Monroe also
may have been the first real attempt to create a personification
of the whore of Babylon. Yet, no personification for the false
prophet existed. Perhaps there was a search for such a
personality in progress. If one was found, we will never know.
Monroe and Kennedy became expendable and were both assassinated
because they rebelled against TPTB and threatened to expose them.
Nevertheless, Marilyn Monroe and John F Kennedy were archetypes
for the whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 and the beast of
Revelation 13. Had these two followed their programming, Monroe
might have married into the Kennedy family via Bobby Kennedy and
become political. As a future first lady, she could have become
the "queen of Babylon" of Revelation 18, combining the
roles of both the WOB and QOB.
Today Madonna is the archetype for the whore of Babylon, or to be
more specfic, the "woman" and "mother of
harlots" who appears in Revelation 17. It would appear that
the "queen of Babylon" who appears in Revelation 18 is
a different personality, possibly Sarah Palin in some capacity.
(UPDATE NOTE,
1-21-09: Hillary Clinton once again will qualify as the QOB of
Revelation 18 in the role of US Secretary of State along with her
reputation as former Senator of New York - MM)
And now we have
Barack Obama, a potential fulfillment of the beast.
There is no question that he and Hillary Clinton were called
before the Bildenberg Group who make up a part of TPTB (or NWO).
They have made their decision and Obama is their choice.
However, I believe that Obama, like John F Kennedy, is made of
nobler stuff and will choose his own path, endangering his life
in the process. He, like Madonna, will likely never fulfill bible
endtime prophecy. They will be archetypes instead.
It is even possible TPTB cut a deal and made him the next Reagan.
The first big hint TPTB were looking 30
years ahead for a possible fulfillment of endtime prophecy was
when they named the asteroid that will almost certainly strike
earth in April 2036 Apophis ("Destroyer").
This time around, instead of ending the Cold War between the
Soviet Union and the United States as Reagan did, Obama will end
the horrible relations between the United States and the Muslim
world. I agree with that.
Now comparing Christian endtime prophecy with Muslim endtime
prophecy is an inexact science. There are similarities, yet there
are glaring differences.
To me the most brutal political figure in Muslim endtime prophecy
is the Sufyaani (the
final one). His cruelty and inhuman acts stand out like no other.
We are told in one hadith that he has the support of the West. As
leader of Syria and Sham he would be well-placed regionally to
implement a peace with Israel, crushing all opposition and all
enemies of Israel and his Western benefactors ruthlessly. In a
word he would be perfect in the role of the beast/Antichrist.
The Dajjal, interestingly enough, sounds much more like the
Christian version of the false prophet than he does the
beast/Antichrist. He performs miracles and feats of magic. The
beast is a political animal with heretical religious beliefs who
ultimately comes to believe he is a god. The false prophet, on
the other hand, supports the policies of the beast and enforces
his reign through supernatural deeds (such as calling down fire
from the sky and making statues walk and speak). Note that the
Dajjal likewise "makes a fire of a
garden and a garden of fire." He is
surrounded by a strange people we might call "new age."
On the other hand he is one-eyed and wooly-haired like certain
archetypes and prophecies of the beast.
Thus, both characters seem to appear in the personage of Dajjal.
However, the overwhelming similarities are to the false prophet.
Who then is the Mahdi? Nothing less than an Islamic messiah and
the enemy of the beast (Sufyaani) and false prophet (Dajjal). In
Islamic prophecy, the Dajjal outlives the Sufyaani. In Christian
prophecy, the beast and false prophet are both destroyed nearly
simultaneously by being cast alive by angels into the Lake of
Fire (or Second Death as it is also called).
I believe the Mahdi appears in Christian prophecy in the Book of
Daniel as the final "king of the south" (Arabia) who
will war with the Antichrist at the time of the end. Since he is
also leader of those of the black banners of Khurasan
(Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan), by
default he also becomes the greatest of the Eastern kings in the
Book of Revelation who rush to defeat Antichrist in the Battle of
Armageddon. He may have as many as 200 million men under him
during this final battle.
But as I say, there are discrepancies and disagreements about
such comparisons. The big problem is one of timing.
But prophecy is always a case of seeing the future through a
glass darkly. What we see at best is a facsimile of what will
actually happen. So I am more pleasantly surprised by the
similarities between Christian and Muslim endtime prophecy than I
am put off by the differences.
Finally, if Barack Obama should merely be yet another Western
archetype for the beast/Antichrist (as I suspect he will be), we
are given a good idea by Nostradamus, Johannes Trithemius, and
the Hebrew calendar when the beast and false prophet will finally
appear: not until either seven years or 42 months before the year
2240, 2242, or 2243.
Still, I keep both a long view and a short view ... because God
may decide to bring events to their ultimate conclusion sooner
rather than later. One never knows.
Mike
Missed
Predictions
----- Original Message -----
From: V
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: Missed Predictions
Hello Mike,
I have been following your web site for quite some time now. I
have noticed that sometimes some of your predictions come true,
but somewhere else or in some other form. For example; you said
that a US rescue mission would fail this year, ( I can only
assume its because of the base 7 of the Iranian hostage rescue
attempt ) and as of now, that has yet to happen, but in that same
month of this year there was the US hostage rescue of the FARC
prisoners and I am wondering why you haven't made that a
"prediction partially fulfilled" or whatnot.
I have seen it before too. Your prediction of massive riots
against the US in Egypt for Jan '08 did not come true, but that
same month there were massive protests in South Korea against the
US.
Another miss-diction was when you predicted that Iran would
test-fire a nuke, which didn't happen, but North Korea tested
their nuke exactly when you said Iran would.
Basically what I'm getting at is, would you consider these to be
fulfilled prophecies? How can you pinpoint exactly where an event
will take place? Also I'd like to ask a unrelated question. What
is your opinion on the likely hood of WW3 happening in '09? And
what will the post-WW3 world be like?
Thanks, and get well soon,
-V
* * * * *
Hi V,
Thanks for bringing up this "misdirected prediction"
situation as it is both a frustrating experience for me to see,
for example (and as you point out) North Korea conducting a
nuclear test the same month and year I said Iran would, and a
fascinating bit of evidence that, nevertheless, in slightly
different ways the base 7 trend or patterning continues to play
out. I wish everyone had your powers of observation because, if
they did, they would understand just how powerful a phenomenon
base 7 actually is and why it is so very reliable a bellweather
for establishing future outcomes of long-standing trends.
Technically-speaking the base 7 system is virtually 100% correct
nearly all the time ... rather, it is I, the one using the
system, who is making miscalculations in using the knowledge I
possess. I would imagine a super-computer would do a much better
job than I using the base 7 system!
Nevertheless, it would also be a good thing to realise that it is
possible for humans and other entities to intervene in this
clockwork prophecy puzzle and gum up the works! Take the Big
Brown prediction: everyone who knows anything about horse racing
KNOWS that Big Brown should have won the Triple Crown this year.
He did enter the Derby undefeated with more races to his credit
than any other previous horse since 1913. It was destined that he
win and I was right to predict that whoever the horse was who
would win the Kentucky Derby in 2008 would go on to be the winner
at the Preakness and the Belmont. Something went wrong, and it
was not my calculation that went wrong either. There are still
lingering reports that Big Brown had not been properly outfitted
with a shoe on one of its hooves before the race and that it came
off, causing the animal great pain and obviously great injury if
the jockey had insisted on pushing for a win. Anyone who knows
about horse racing will tell you that race was fixed, but no one
wants to say so publicly.
One reason for tampering with this horse was its
"undefeated" record. Because Big Brown was a "sure
thing" no one could make any real money on the race. He was
too good to be true. Unless there is risk, there is little money
to be won. The field offered nothing other than losers (including
the horse that won had Big Brown not been tampered with). Someone
with a lot of money had Big Brown shod carelessly so he or she
could make a killing betting against him. There were a number of
bets placed against Big Brown that actually made no sense under
the circumstances ... unless the betters knew something.
So here is a good example of how human intervention can change
the outcome of an otherwise faultless prediction.
Thanks for telling me about the FARC mission. I was not aware of
it at the time ... and I know why. In late February after a night
of drinking brandy, I awoke the next day suffering from extreme
vertigo. I thought perhaps it was the alcohol that caused it ( I
do not drink to excess very often and, for that matter, not
moderately that often either being more of a coffee hound). The
vertigo would not go away, not even after five days. It was
horrible and it was especially bad lying my head on the pillow,
then the entire room spun around for what seemed 30 seconds
making me think I would die. I was put on an anti-vertigo med
that made me very sleepy .. which is bad because I have sleep
apnea besides and that can cause a bit of narcolepsy. On March 5
I went out to eat. Driving home my blood pressure must have
dropped really low and I passed out at the wheel. I awoke 15
seconds later, smashing into a stop sign, a guardrail, and then
plummeted off a small cliff into a deep ditch of water. I was
unhurt, but the car was totalled. I spent three days in hospital
for examination. Not much was actually resolved by my being
there. Finally, in late April, I went to a specialist who cured
me of the vertigo. There are exercises I can now perform she
taught me so if it ever comes back I will likely prevent a bad
case of it again. The apnea is not yet resolved because I am on
the wrong machine and need a new sleep study, but the narcolepsy
seems to happen much less often now, thank goodness.
So, I was not very much "on the ball" about everything
that was happening in the news back in the late winter and spring
I am afraid, thus missed this FARC mission. You are correct: that
would be a PREDICTION PARTIALLY FULFILLED or else CLOSE ... I
need to familiarise myself with the details to determine which.
Regarding what happened in South Korea instead of Egypt, again,
for personal reasons I will not get into in the latter part of
the month, I was a bit out of the loop where events were
concerned. Also I was trying to catch the web site up to 2008 as
it was a new year.
Even so, what happened in South Korea, instead of Egypt, is a
mechanism I do not entirely understand. It is why there was a
major airliner crash in Spain rather than in the Middle East and
another in Russia rather than the United States ... at the times
base 7 alterted or predicted.
There appears to be a migratory nature to some base 7 patterns
which I have sometimes called "translocation." It is
rare for accidents to occur in the same location twice until at
least a good 21 or 28 years have passed (sometimes much less and
sometimes much more). Often we will see a grand return after 70
years: Jean Harlow (1937) = Anna Nicole Smith (2007); hurricane
strikes Long Island causing major flooding (1937) = Nor' Easter
striking New York City and causing major flooding (2007); and
other instances. Even longer periods do we have to wait
sometimes, like the dread 98th anniversary: Lincoln assassinated
in 1865 = Kennedy assassinated in 1963.
Anyway, getting an accident right is a bit hit and miss because
of the migratory nature of accidents. Nevertheless, one stands a
good 50/50 or 75/25 chance of getting a repeat using the base 7
system.
Translocation (or migration of location in a trend) happens a
little less frequently when dealing with war or warlike events,
political events, and such. Take World War II and the Pacific
migration. The US was at war with North Korea in 1950 and again
with North Vietnam in 1964 after the Gulf of Tonkin attack.
Although the US war dates with Japan during World War II do not
fit the Korea-Vietnam timeline, it established the Pacific as the
arena of conflict for some time to come. In 1971 Vietnam not only
did not go away, but spread to Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand. By
1978 Cambodia was the new "killing fields" .. but
without US participation.
However, by 1985 the Pacific had ceased to be the arena of
conflict. The trend was undergoing migration. Had anyone used the
base 7 system during the early 1980s, they would have either made
the mistake of predicting yet another Pacific conflict in 1985 or
else, noting a migration of concern towards the Persian Gulf in
1980, might have predicted a major US war with Iran or Iraq in
1985. Again, that person would have been wrong about the dating
at least since the US did not enter the Iran-Iraq War until 1987.
One can easily understand the migration from the Far East to the
Middle East, but why the start of conflict would be gummed up by
two years is not easy to explain. Perhaps this was due to mass
paranoia at that time that 1985 would be the start of World War
III or because of the new developments in the relationship
between the Soviet Union and the United States. Human concern
delayed the war by two years, until an allegedly errant Iraqi
Exocet missile changed all that in May 1987.
Now more confident, our imaginary base 7 calculator would have
either seen the two year switch as a gum-up and stuck to the
timeline which would next occur in 1992 or else would have
planned to assert a new timeline in 1994. He/she would have
called a major Middle East war in 1992 and been shocked to see
Operation Desert Storm occur in 1991 .. a year early. Of course
this fell short of World War III, but encouraged on by cheers of
approval and awe our persistent base 7 technician would be all
ready to bet the farm on 1999, which would have yielded
disastrous results.
Another migration had occurred in the meantime from the Middle
East to the Balkans (in Slovenia) at exactly the same time as
Operation Desert Storm and the genocide of the Kurds that
followed came to an end in April 1991. Then came a more violent
struggle between Serbia and Croatia in August 1991, but was
fortunately short-lived.
Thus, in April 1992 the first of the two most serious and major
of the Balkans wars began in Bosnia-Herzogovina. It would also be
the longest of the Balkans wars. To get 1999 right and identify
the theatre of conflict as the former Yugoslavia (The Kosovo
War), our intrepid base 7 prognosticator could have ill afforded
to ignore that the war in Bosnia began in 1992.
On the other hand, if he/she had heeded the gum-up and
extrapolated from 1987 to 1994, a confused mess would have been
their lot long before 1999. The Balkans would not have been
foreseen and Bosnia would be in its third year. As for the Middle
East, save for a weak, ineffective second move to take Kuwait by
Saddam Hussein, a move quickly repelled by Clinton within a week,
1994 would yield nothing else.
Would he/she have the nerve to push ahead for a war in the Middle
East in 2001? With so much hanging on 1999 it is doubtful, but
had they done so they would have been rewarded. And I did so ...
and was right. 911 happened, then the war in Afghanistan,
followed by the war between Israel and the West
Bank/Lebanon/Syria in March and April 2002 and then the US war in
Iraq a year later made my prediction technically correct, but
wrong as to sequence and degree of conflict.
Now we await to see if a major Middle East war breaks out this
year like no other one before it. Yet, even as we wait, have I
taken into consideration the slight migration from Middle
East/Persian Gulf to Afghanistan in Central Asia in 2001????
Instead of a war involving Iran and the US, Israel and
Lebanon/Syria, Turkey and Iraq, all blending together are we
instead heading for a repetition of Afghanistan and a migration
into Pakistan and India???? Or will the actual Arab-Israeli
conflict hold off until April 2009 and war with Iran until March
2010??? Will the dreaded Russian invasion of the Balkans and then
Europe actually occur in 2012 or 2013??
World War III will either break out in the Middle East this
autumn or begin no later than April 2009. World War III in Europe
will follow by August 2009 ... UNLESS THERE IS A CEASEFIRE.
Prospects for a ceasefire in August 2009 are very good. If that
occurs, World War III will not begin again in the Middle East
until a violation occurs in June-August 2011 with a
Russian-Iranian blockade of the Persian Gulf. The crisis will
stew until January 2012 and then all hell will break loose in the
Middle East. World War III will then migrate via Turkey and the
Balkans as a Russian-Iranian invasion of Europe in August 2012.
Aftermath will be horrible, beginning in either 2010 or 2013,
depending on when WW3 in Europe begins (2009 or 2012). I will
show with images and words in new 2010- 2016 pages (two sets of
each year). I will show the events of a troubled but great
"little peace" that may come from August 2009 until
January 2012 if ceasefire is declared.
After WW3 is waged in Europe in either 2009 or 2012, I will show
the resulting destruction of the United States and parts of
Russia, civil wars in the UK, Italy, Germany, and Russian
federation, revolution in France and a second reign of terror
that will spread from France throughout seven other European
nations, anti-Christian policies, mass exterminations, new
religions demanding human sacrifice, a monstrous puppet leader
shoved on to the people by the Muslims who will be like the beast
of Revelation ... four or six years of horror, torture,
suffering, and death before the people are at last liberated by a
royal house of France in 2016 and the monster destroyed. This
does not include the additional horror of plague that will arrive
in April 2013.
However, it is possible we can avoid a ceasefire violation and
postpone World War III until 2038 ... the year it is intended to
begin.
Anyway, I am glad you are paying attention. I wish everyone would
understand the system and its complexities as well as you seem
to. I will certainly make mention by year's end of some of these
mis-predicted events, if not give myself some well-deserved
partial points for each.
Thanks again,
Mike
Brigade
Homeland Tour
----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Brigade Homeland Tour
Michael,
Check this link out. This scared the hell out of me when I read
it. It's not good at all.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
-
Shaun
* * * * *
Hi Shaun,
Hmmmm.. I don't know. Close reading of this article, if anything,
is rather reassuring that the army is being trained to help
civilians, not kill them .. for example training in the use of
'the jaws of life' and other life-saving procedures.. and of
course crowd control and chaos in the event of an earthquake or
terrorist attack. Even there they discuss non-lethal methods of
crowd control, such as tasers and are hinting, I think, of the
new microwave energy beam weapon they have developed. Let's face
it, there will be chaos and rioting to some degree during a
crisis ... we can't pretend there will be universal calm and
cooperation. And why bother to 'save' lives if you are really
planning on mass extermination?
This article was written for army people by army people and those
interested in the armed forces, so there is no reason for the
author to lie here.
Of course the issue of camps and the millions of plastic coffins
is not addressed at all.
Regarding the plastic coffins it is not impossible that they were
made in anticipation of a horrific disaster in the Eastern United
States. I read a prophecy once somewhere that millions of people
would be killed in the Eastern US after an asteroid impact or
sudden sinking of a volcanic island in the Atlantic Ocean, either
probably related to Planet X, and that these bodies would have to
be shipped by trains to the northwest for burial in mass graves
as quickly as possible to avoid the spread of disease that would
break out from all the decay. So perhaps there is a logical
explanation for all the coffins other than as evidence that there
is a sinister government plan for mass depopulation.
As for the detention camps there is also an alternative
explanation for that. The United States may be invaded from
Central and South America by several million Latin American
troops allied with Russia, China, Iran and Syria (and part of
their militaries may be included in the number of invaders). I
have dreamt such a scenario before happening in a summer month
and there is base 7 evidence such an event could occur. I'm not
sure, but I think there is even an actual prophecy about an
invasion from the south.
In the event that occurs, there no longer is any mystery what the
camps are for. When I look back at the huge number of Cuban
refugees that came to the US in 1980 I start to think also: how
many of the approximately 800 detention camps in the US would
have been needed to house all those Cubans had they had them
then? Since several million of them came over here, I would say
quite a few of the camps would have been needed. As it was, due
to the lack of such detention camps at that time, the government
had to set up scores of makeshift camps all over the Florida
panhandle and the Gulf of Mexico anywhere they could, including
underneath expressways and freeways.
Yeah, and if that ever happened again, I'd prefer the barbed wire
was pointed to keep the refugees in.
I have to admit there are credible scenarios to explain the
existence of detention camps, double decker railroad cars, and
huge numbers of plastic coffins.
But even if this is the real truth behind their existence, how
many Americans would believe it??? Trust in the US leadership is
currently at an all-time low and paranoia induced by Internet
conspiracies is at an all-time high. I am not sure what to
believe anymore myself.
Mike
Another
popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in truck crash
----- Original Message -----
From: Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:02 AM
Subject: Another popular Aussie presenter seriously injured in
truck crash.
Hi Mike
hope you are coping well.
Well another Aussie presenter has been injured seriously in a
monster truck accident. Grant Denyer's crushed a vertebrae in his
back into about half a dozen pieces.
(http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/633099/denyer-injured-in-monster-truck-crash) Seems we have a lot of 'celebrity
accidents' lately here in Aussieland.
While I still have you, I would like to bring up two Aussie
personalities who have passed on in the past year.
Similar in the vein of Charmaine Dragun query. Sports commentator
and a reality TV show contestant.
One of Aussie's original Big Brother housemate died in Sept 2007
(http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22415081-662,00.html)
A well known and respected Australian sport commentator, Clinton
Grybas died in January 5th this year (http://news.theage.com.au/sport/police-probe-commentator-grybas-death-20080105-1kbw.html and http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23013577-601,00.html). His death was a mystery at first but
concluded that he died while sleepwalking falling after hitting
something in his apartment I believe..
I guess my query which is similar to Charmaine Dragun query, is:
is there such a thing like sports presenter's or a reality star's
death in previous years can repeat again 7 years later?
Thank you and as always look forward to hearing from you.
Louie
* * * * *
Hi Louie,
I'll run Grant Denyer through the name sound filter, along with a
few others I haven't done yet. Don't be surprised if there are no
important matches in certain cases. Celebrities, like regular
people, DO die simply because they do and it has nothing to do
with a special death line they happened to be on or whether their
name matches some other celebrity. I do submit, however, that a
pattern of coincidence that is more than mere coincidence occurs
in the lives and deaths of the famous and infamous and, to some
extent, regular people a large part of time. But certainly we can
dimiss up to 25% of deaths, on average in any given year, as
simply being random.
I have never done a study of sportcasters and reality stars to
see if there are patterns or base 7 links. Reality TV is still
too new or recent a phenomenon yet to conduct studies that are
much more than 7 years old. Were there reality TV shows 14 years
ago in 1994? I can't seem to recall any.
Even in the case of TV presenters, which go back as long as
television has been around (60 years), we find cases of similar
death of presenters corresponding to a base 7 timeline rather
meagre. Most have died of natural causes. Technically the most
outstanding cases thus far have been Chris Hubbock who committed
suicide live on TV (who was a woman by the way, and not a man ...
that is why I used her when trying to compare Jill Dando with
Charmaine Dragun), Jessica Savitch, Jill Dando, Christopher
Price, Peter Jennings, Mark Speight, and now Charmaine Dragun.
And of course being a TV presenter can mean many and various
things: from news shows to kiddie shows. In terms of the news,
not many incidents have occurred despite 60 years of television.
Sportscasters, who can say? That requires an exhausting amount of
research that may be well worth the trouble when things are
relatively slow and I am caught up with my site. But that will be
some time away yet.
No link is impossible. I am sure if the statistics were
available, we could find patterns linking the deaths of
professional jugglers, ventriloquists, gourmet chefs, chiefs of
police, and even street cleaners ... especially if we are going
to use examples from every country in the world. I would shudder
to do a study of deaths in India where life is cheap and suicide
is higher than anywhere else on the planet. So, of course, I have
to narrow my research within a narrower, more reasonable field.
Adding Australia and, I suppose New Zealand, to a study of
Western nations is understandable and has my approval, although
some viewers may feel alienated by unfamiliar names (other than
internationally known ones like Kylie Minogue, Geoffrey Rush,
Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, or Olivia Newton-John or famous
classic rock bands like AC/DC or Midnight Oil).
Now, of course, Asian celebrities from places like South Korea,
Japan, China, India, and the Middle East are making inroads to
Western media attention via the Internet ... people we otherwise
might not even know about, save for about 1%. It makes the job
more difficult using the base 7 system on a global scale where
individuals are concerned. Still, it is amazing the patterns I
have found, for example, with those who have chosen to fall from
a high place (usually an apartment balcony) from Elizabeth
Hartmann in the West, to Soud Hosni in Egypt, to Ruslana
Korshunova of Kazakhstan, to Charmaine Dragun of Australia.
Incidentally, how popular are musical and film stars from the
Oriental Asian nations like South Korea and Japan in Australia?
It would seem to me that an Asian Pacific pantheon of stars would
exist just as there are in UK/Europe or America.
Yes, sports presenters and reality TV star's, like all
occupations, do without doubt, produce observable trends among
their rank and file. We only have to find out what they are and
who has been affected.
Mike
re:early
21st Century
----- Original Message -----
From: Trish
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:14 AM
Subject: re:early 21st Century
Hello Michael
I've heard that Planet X could have a most devastating,
catastrophic, for the entire earth. Is it possible that this
planet could reverse our poles and creating such devastation?
How is that you see past 2016 and beyond????? I have studied the
bible, and to the best of my recollection, NO BODY knows the hour
not even the Son(Jesus) of when these things come to pass.
The future as you see it doesn't look to promising for my
children or their children, all about wars, food shortages,
lawlessness ... maybe I should live today, as if it were my last
and enjoy it.
Kind regards Patricia.
Trish
- -Patty!
* * * * *
Hello Trish,
There are many theories about what Planet X will do to Earth when
it passes by ... WHEN it passes by (this cannot even be agreed
upon). As to the "when" most prophecy says there will
be a major "comet" that will cause some destruction to
our planet in various ways at the same time that many nations are
plagued by a great war (ie, "World War III").
Therefore, if various prophecies are correct, this object or
comet will not come until we are in the midst of this great war
at the point when Europe is attacked and invaded by "the
East" ("Russia" or the "the Soviet
Union" in some later prophecies). The originator of this
prophecy, Daniel, however, identifies the adversary as the king
of Persia (Iran) and his ally the king(s) of Media. Georgia is an
example of one of the nations that were part of Media, and, as
you can see, portions of it now are once again part of Russia. If
Russia continues to absorb more former Soviet states into its
structure, it becomes "king" of the Medes. Ergo, an
Iranian-Russian alliance is "the East" that many
prophets feared would invade Europe in our time and is distinctly
identified by Daniel in Chapter 8 (and also mentioned in various
places by Nostradamus in his book).
So, Planet X cannot come until the war is waged and reaches
critical mass in Europe. If Planet X arrives in a time of peace
or a limited level of conflict in some place like Iraq or
Afghanistan, it would be going against prophecy. Obviously if
there is a world war that is as bad as I described, we will have
plenty other things to worry about besides Planet X anyway ...
like nuclear war.
This world war need not happen in our lifetimes. It is possible
for it to be postponed until the year 2038. So there is some hope
in that for you .. and for all of us. If that is what happens
then Planet X will not come until around the year 2044.
Yes, Planet X will, at some point, cause a "pole shift"
of 90 degrees .. there is evidence of that in Revelation after
the seventh seal has been opened and a third of the stars are
shaken to the ground so that a third of the stars are no longer
seen nor a third of the light shine by the moon and stars. If the
earth's pole is shifted by that much, it will certainly change
the way the stars and constellations will appear afterwards.
Indeed, all the things mentioned from the opening of the sixth
seal (the great planet earthquake, moon appears as blood, sun
black as sackcloth, heavens rolled up like scroll, etc) through
to the seventh seal and fourth trumpet sounded are related to
various Planet X actions on our planet.
I do not see beyond 2016 nor do I say that man will definitely
continue beyond 2016 (Nostradamus does).
Nostradamus says that
most of the world will be destroyed by ignorant rulers, weapons,
fire, and flood in the year 2243 (using the grand cycle of the
Moon as his dating device). He also says that the end of seven
thousand years of human history will arrive in 2242-43 in his
Epistle to Henry II (written in 1558), claiming also that the
seventh millennium began in 1242-43 and will end in 2242-43, for
he tells his son four years earlier that they are living in the
seventh millennium (when he wrote this in 1554, by his reckoning,
that would have been true if it began in 1242-43). His view at
the end of the seventh millennium, in 2243, follows Christian
theology surprisingly exact for he says then the kingdom of
Christ will begin and Satan will be bound and thrown into prison
for a thousand years, after which time there will be one last
uprising by people he identifies as Azostains (another word for
infidels, unfaithful). Yet again, therefore, he is describing the
final battle led by Satan after deceiving the nations of world
(identified in Revelation as "Gog and Magog").
Nostradamus differs with the modern popular Christian view of
when the date of the creation of Adam occurred. That is why
Christians will say there are only 6000 years elapsed (4004 BC
usually given as the date to begin counting from) and the
millennial reign of Christ shall begin the seventh millennium
(which is well overdue since that should have happened in 1996 or
1997 depending on whether one takes into account there was no
year zero). Nostradamus set creation as being either 4756 BC or
4757 BC. His calculations are supported by the Abbot Trithemius,
which are only ten years off, who wrote his discourse on the
"Angel Ages" in 1503. Like the prophet Enoch, both men
believed there would be seven thousand years of human history
before the messianic age would begin, which would be the eighth
millennium. Christian theology teaches 6000 years of human
history as opposed to 7000 years of human history merely because
in the Book of Genesis, God took 6 days to create the world and
rested on the 7th. However, the truth is, most Old Testament era
prophets believed there would be 7000 years from the time of
creation before Man's rule would end and the awaited messiah's
would begin.
Nevertheless, in the Book of Matthew Jesus does remind us that
God shall shorten Man's years in the end times because if He does
not "no flesh would survive." The question is how much
will He shorten them by and in what sense? In Matthew is Jesus
saying the 7000 years will be reduced to 6700 to 6800 years
(meaning our era will end sometime between 1943 and 2043) or does
it mean the beast will reign only 42 months because originally
his reign was to last longer (Nostradamus says the beast reign is
25 years without divine intervention)? As you can see either way
years are being shortened.
In any event, I present prophecies that clearly extend beyond our
current time as though the prophets, like Nostradamus, claiming a
much longer future than a handful of years remaining are correct.
We cannot say for certain they are wrong.
At the same time, I look at the time in which we are living as
possibly being at the brink of Tribulation. I must because God
has said He will shorten the years and I cannot be sure what that
means exactly. For this reason I engage in interpretation and
discussion concerning the beast and false prophet and the whore
of Babylon and other such features of Revelation from an end
times perspective (ie, that we may indeed be living in the last
7-year period or very near it).
Personally, I believe we are approaching that part of Revelation
that corresponds with the opening of the sixth seal. How long the
time will run from there until the Second Coming I truly do not
know. It could be years, decades, or even a few centuries.
I show the nightmare version of what will come, the worst case
scenario, based on prophecy but also based on our own history
which I truly do believe does repeat itself at intervals of seven
years and also multiples of seven years (ie., 7, 14, 21, 28, 35,
42, 49, 56, 63, etc).
I believe most future events that have been prophesied can be
mitigated and I also believe that some future events can be
postponed to a later time. Human free will does play a role in
all of this. The events of Revelation may be written in stone,
but they have been carefully presented by John without a
timeframe, if you notice, until the beast and false prophet
appear. Until these two actually appear, Man has some power over
how long he can reign in this world through the power of faith
and prayer ... and a bit of common sense if he has any left.
Yes, live today and plan for tomorrow. I do. Hope springs
eternal, as they say. But for those of us who present and discuss
prophecy, it is our job to alert the public as to where we may be
headed. Thus, as Dickens reminds us in A Christmas Carol when
Scrooge is shown his headstone by the Ghost of Christmas Future
and queries in great dread and trepidation: 'Are these the shadows
of the things that Will be, or are they shadows of things that
May be, only? ... Men's courses will foreshadow certain ends, to
which, if persevered in, they must lead. But if the courses be
departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with what you
show me!'
This is a question that haunts
us all. But what Scrooge has reasoned out after putting the
question in this classic ghost story can be the only answer for
any of us, without the benefit of a spectre's assurance.
Take care,
Mike
STOP
RIGHT THERE MR MCCLELLAN ... HAVE YOU BEEN ENTIRELY HONEST WITH
THESE PEOPLE ABOUT
JOHN GIBSON'S INTERVIEW WITH SARAH PALIN??
----- Original
Message -----
From:
TATI
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:53 PM
You
referenced Sarah Palin's interview with John Gibson, but what
must be taken into consideration is how edited it was when aired
on ABC. In their full context, the transcript of which is
provided in the link below, her remarks would appear to
differ, sometimes significantly, from what was portrayed on
television, particularly in her hostility toward Russia.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/13/abc-news-edited-out-key-parts-sarah-palin-interview
* * * * *
Dear Tati,
You run a
blog. I run a very large website which is a good deal more
time-consuming. Except for another email reader (besides
myself) who answers letters (and is away on vacation right now),
I am doing this all alone.
I am viewing
events from a prophetic perspective and, as such, am highly
dependent on (allegedly) reputable news organisations and news
services for factual evidence to support prophecies by major
prophets as well as personal predictions I have made. I
teach that history repeats itself at often regular intervals of
multiples of seven years and demonstrate how often that actually
does happen.
I simply do not
have the time to pin down every news story to see if it is
journalistically sound or biased. If that became my mission, that
is all I would ever be doing.
I read the
transcript and see what you mean. Nevertheless, although Palin's
views are somewhat moderated by the material that was removed, it
did not sway my overall view that she perceives Russia as a
potential adversary at this time. She has made other
comments to this effect outside of the interview in
question. This interview is by no means the only source for
such reports.
Still, I have to
wonder why these comments were singled out for editing? Why were
many of John Gibson's questions also deleted? He spent much
quality time preparing his questions, why ask them only to delete
them later? Is not his editing out of his own remarks as
important as his editing out those of Sarah Palin's?
You do realise, I
am sure, that a TV journalist must adhere to the demands placed
upon his network by sponsors. He/she has only so much time
allotted them to produce a final presentation of the
interview. Much cutting is necessary. It is
impossible to conduct a television interview and NOT delete
comments. If many questions are asked and/or answers are
quite lengthy, perhaps a third of all words exchanged will never
be heard.
What is removed
is up to the judgment of the interviewer and sometimes that can
be a tough call. There is also something we can not
know: what was Sarah Palin's body language saying at the
time she made the remarks that were later deleted? If the
interviewer is any good he can tell whether at some point when
speaking the person he is engaging is being evasive or otherwise
disingenuous. If that is the case, he may decide to delete
such material and hold on to that which struck him as being truly
candid.
A full transcript
that is published for reading is no more or less the truth than
an edited vocal interview unless we actually see the words being
spoken.
Nevertheless, I
shall provide your remarks and the link to your blog in my
article so that my viewers can decide the truth, such as it may
be, for themselves.
Most sincerely
yours,
Mike
-----------------------------
Speaking
of which, apparently Sarah Palin has been caught in one lie
already. So how can we really know where she stands on Russia????
-----
Original Message -----
From: TATI
.
To: Mike
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: RE:
I understand your point, and by no means was I implying any
irresponsibility on your part. Just figured I'd point out the
article (of which the blog in question I do not run, by the way),
since the ABC report didn't tell the whole story. And like you
said, people can decide for themselves. Thank you for your time,
I only recently discovered your site several weeks ago and am
thoroughly hooked.
A
woman's perspective on Palin
----- Original
Message -----
From: Shelley
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:06 AM
Subject: A woman's perspective on Palin
Hi Mike,
I hope this is finding you
well of late. As a single working Mom I would like to offer that
not all of us are smitten with Mrs Palin. As I read the news I am
crying for what I know will be lost, as surely as I knew what
would be lost when GWB hit the scene. It's a gut instinct that
makes me recoil when I look at her eyes or see her doing
the Hitler hand salute.
She is
indeed cruel - you need only read how she
attacked the physical appearance of her opponents, or shoots
animals from the air (the most cowardly way to hunt since the
gun) and her insistence that polar bears are not endangered.
Further, beauty queens place appearance above all else,
so in essence our presidential race has been reduced to a
meaningless reality show. Any woman who wants to
deny abortion to a rape or incest victim - and make the rape
victim pay for the rape kit to boot - is the definition of
intolerance and cruelty.
I was
horrified when I read she put more importance on making a speech
and taking an 8 hour flight from Texas back to Alaska than her
and her babies health when her water broke. It was a
high risk pregnancy and she did not notify the airlines that she
was going into labor. If she is willing to put her own childs
health at risk to make a speech and put her own interests in
front, but deny the rest of us the same control over our lives - imagine
the depth of her disdain for anyone outside her circle.
Remember that no
man knows the mind of God and while you may be keeping an open
mind based on your calculations, my instincts are saying
"Holy shit - we are so screwed".
Peace out,
Shelley
* * * * *
Hi
Shelley,
Thanks for sending that along. It certainly opens my eyes to the
reality that is Sarah Palin.
I have not had a chance to do much research on her, but I can see
I have missed a whole lot. I had hoped that her being an
Evangelist might be a good sign, but really doubted it when I
read that she said she thought the war in Iraq was "a
mission from God." That is crazy and her telling school
children such crap is also crazy and dangerous. Unfortunately,
and sad to say, many of the so-called Christians these days are
dangerous lunatics.
Hitler hand salute to go with it too, eh? I don't know who I
dread more: the Zionists or the anti-Zionists. Both sound like
fanatics.
Well, I may quote some of this material when I have a chance as
an update to the article. I will of course say it is from an
anonymous source or sources (unless you would like your name addy
'Shelley' used). Besides, this would make a good letter for the
email forum too, which hasn't been updated in quite a while (not
for a lack of material, I will be backlogged forever) . . .
Anyway, thanks for sharing your views on Ms Palin and also for
your concern about my health.
Take care,
Mike
Will
LHC ( Large Hadron Collider) Experiment Bring About the End of
the World?
----- Original
Message -----
From: Michael Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent:
Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: Tomorrow the world goes under !
Hi
Mike
We
are perhaps close to see the following come true:
C9
Q44
Migrés,
migrés de Geneue trestous.
Saturne d'or en fer se changera,
Le contre FAYPOZ exterminera tous,
Auant l'aduent le ciel signes fera.
Leave,
leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
"Raypoz" will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs.
The
swedish online newspaper "expressen" has an article
about a scientific experiment that will start tomorrow
(wednesday) september 10. 2008
The
headline:
The
World will end Tomorrow
By
sending particles trough a gigantic particel accellerator by
the name LHC ( Large Hadron Collider) at the CERN-Laboratory
in Geneva,
scientists hopes to create a mini Big Bang and learn more
about our universe. But critics ( a large number of
scientists) has warned that a sideeffect of the experiment
could accidentally create small black holes that could expand
and swallov the earth.
http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1293738/forskare-i-morgon-gar-jorden-under
Its
been sugested that Raypoz could mean a positive Ray, and there is
both a positive and negative ray ind the particle accellerator.
So
if Nostradamus is pointing to this event, then something is
going horribly wrong.
Greetings
from
Michael
Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'Annemarc
* * * * *
Mike,
Relax.
If the worst were
to happen, it would mean the end of all life on this planet ...
and no prophecy backs that up.
Black holes would
almost certainly mean TOTAL DESTRUCTION and no scientist would
play around with such a scenario unless they knew what they were
doing. There is no such thing as controlling what a black
hole does ... if this particle accelerator creates black holes
capable of swallowing our planet, then, as far as the
scientific theory of black holes goes, planet Earth and
everyone on it would cease to exist at a very rapid rate.
No survivors and
no planet to survive on!
Nostradamus never
predicted anything that total, nor did the Bible prophets nor any
other prophets. Nostradamus' warning to flee Geneva would
be useless if a black hole was created on our planet ... we would
need to leave our solar system!
The
"contrary to the positive ray" that you mention as a
translation for RAYPOZ is by Delores Cannon. She is not
even a real Nostradamus scholar. She claims to
"channel" Nostradamus' spirit. Her translations
are most specious in my opinion. RAYPOZ, like so many of the figures who appear in
the quatrains, is a person ... and RAYPOZ is an anagram or
approximation of his name.
Actually,
according to scientist Stephen Hawking ( the quadriplegic genius
you have probably seen who speaks through an artificial voice
simulator) says that very small black holes, smaller than can be
seen with eye, that might be formed would evaporate almost
as quickly as they are formed. Indeed, past tests with
cruder particle acceleration devices have already created such
black holes and they all did indeed evaporate virtually seconds
after forming. So we have already been at this stage of the
game and never even knew it.
But if
for some crazy reason I am wrong ... then all of prophecy is
wrong ... then all religion and all faith is wrong. Then we
may all indeed die tomorrow and our world with it. If so,
what can be done?? Pray to God?? That would be a
supreme waste of time. I suppose then that tomorrow is as
much a test to see if humanity is worthy of continuing as a
species. Are those who rule this planet really that weary
of life to take such a chance?
Mike
-----
Original Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Tomorrow the world goes under !
Hi again Mike
Oh I am allready as relaxed as one can be in this world..
No I dont believe in the black hole theory either, I was just
refering to the headlines, that as allways are intended to get
more buyers of the newspaper.
Besides I made one mistake, the accellerator doesnt have one
positive and one negative ray, this one is different, it has 2
positive rays.
There is allways one important thing to remember in science.
Theory is only theory until it has been confirmed by experiment.
So this experiment could still hold some unexpeted results that
will blow the minds of the scientist.
As I have written earlier, I have had several dreamvisions that
came true, and they allways had what I call "a
special flavour" in lack of better
words, in the way that I allways remembered it verry clearly, and
in the dreams I have a third kind of consciousness or awareness
like somewhere between being awake and dreaming. Dont mistake
this ( I know that you will not Mike) for lucid dreaming, because
I am not controlling the dreamvision, allthoug sometimes I wish I
could so I wouldnt have some of the negative visions.
But luckily it isnt all black in black. Here is one vision that
indicates that the 3 world war will not occur untill after the
Soccer World Championships in 2010..
They are planned to be played in South Africa, but if this vision
is true there might happen something unexpected so the games will
be moved to France.
In the summer 1988, shortly after the ending of the European
Championships, played out in Germany, I was a bit depressed since
the Danish National Soccerteam had lost all three games in their
group. Since Denmark isnt one of the big nations there were not
much hope of Denmark ever again quallifying for any other major
Championship. But then I had the following dream.
I
was sitting in a sofa in front of a TV. On the screen I could see
written in Cyrilic (Russian letters ) this result " USSR -
DENMARK" 0 - 2. Under this writing I could see a
soccer/football stadium.
There were dark clouds in the sky, and it was allmost dark and
the big lights on the stadium had been lit. Somehow the word
"Marseille" entered my mind. I knew it was some sort of
Championsship in France but I didnt know which and to me it
seemed it was the final game. Suddenly my sofa was placed in the
stadium with me still sitting in it, surounded by thousand and
thousands of spectators. The sound level in this dreamvision was
incredibly loud, and so was the colours and sensations. I rose up
from the sofa, now dressed in red and white and started running
towards the Russians goal. I think the Russians were dressed all
in white. On my right side a Danish player ran along the side
almost up to the right corner and then kicked the football hard
across the face of the goalkeeper, the football passed all the
way over to me now standing close to the left goalpost. I only
had to hit the football with my left foot and it was in the net.
You wouldnt think that its possible to reach such soundlevels in
a dream, but the crowd of Danish spectators made me think that I
would go deaf . They cheered and it sounded as if fireworks went
of too. Then there was sort of a timelapse in the dreamvision,
and now I was running alone in the middle of the field, only with
the Russian goalkeeper in front of me. The football was now shot
forward from another player behind me in such a way that I had to
jump over it in order to get it under controll. Now I was running
with the football, and the Russian goalkeeper started running out
towards me so it would be more difficult for me to hit the goal.
I made the shot with my left foot again, and the footbal sort of
curved around the goalkeeper on his right side just outside of
reach. It went in..Now the crowd were cheering and dancing, so
you cold allmost belive an earhtquake was going on.
When I woke up I was feeling verry happy. I dont know if the
result shown on the TV was the halftime or fulltime result, so it
could mean that Denmark wins 2-0 or 4-0 against the Russians.
Now, I dont want you to think, that I think that I will be
playing on the Danish National Soccerteam or as we in Europe
prefer Footballteam. The dream indicated to me that I will be
watching it on TV, but I was allowed to se how it will happen
from a first person view. So I gues that the player who scores
the 2 goals is leftfooted. One thing that pussled me in the dream
was that the Final game was being played in Marseille and not on
"Parc de Prince" Stadium in Paris, which would be the
normal thing to do. There could be two reasons for this. Either
that Paris has been destroyed or that Some other sporting or
Musical event is taking place in Paris. This could be the case if
South Africa shortly before the games has to cancel for some
reason. Then All sorts of hurried and hasty sollutions will have
to be made, so probably the stadiums has allready been booked to
some other activity. Another thing some has pointed out is that
its not called USSR any more, and I know, and I dont expect it to
be any more, but if I had seen another name on the screen back in
1988, then I probably wouldnt have understood it.
I have told several people in Denmark and Sweden of this
dreamvision, and some say that perhaps it had to do with Denmark
becomming European Champions in 1992, only 4 years after I dreamt
this, but this game was won in Gothenburg Sweden againgst the
German World Champions, funny enough with Result beeing Germany -
Denmark 0 -2.
Me and some other people were anxious to know if it meant that
Denmark would win the world Championschip in France in 1998, but
they didnt and the final game was played in Paris between France
and Brazil.
So If You want to make some bet that someday in the future will
make you rich, you now have something to bet on... ;-)
Friendly greetings from
Michael
Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'Annemarc
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Original Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: World Cup Qualifying
Hi Mike
after sending you my dream about Denmark winning against Russia I
watched the World Cup Qualifying match between Portugal and
Denmark:
See the result for yourself here:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=236383&cc=5739
It seems that I still can be right :-)
Greetings
Michael Skøtt Andersen / Copenhagen d'Annemarc
Hadron
Collider
-----
Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: Mike
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Hadron Collider
Mike,
Does Nostradamus say anything about this device? Could its
operation have astronomical effects? A black hole, even a small
one, can draw objects due to intense gravitation. Perhaps even
celestial objects of some kind. Earth is such an object; as Earth
matter condenses, the gravitational energy it exerts could effect
the transition of other objects. An object passing by earth very
slowly, might be affected, if events begin to spiral out of
control. Just wild speculation. Planet X is much too large to be
seriously compromised; but some of its own energies could be
drawn into Earth's atmosphere and spiral toward Earth's surface
and into Earth's mantle or core. That might change the magnetic
properties of the Earth at some point. Again, wild speculation.
More likely, if the Hadron Collider is "successful," at
doing what its designers hope for (whatever that is), other
countries might build their own. The cumulative effect could be
more dramatic than the effects produced by a single collider. I
seem to recall one version of Atlantis's demise was caused by its
prehistoric scientists overuse of various "energies,"
out of a sense of unbridled arrogance toward the Earth.
Steve
* * * * *
Hi Steve,
I've been getting other emails of concern about tomorrow's
experiment with the particle accelorator. One even mailed me a
Nostradamus quatrain:
C9 Q44
Migrés, migrés de Geneue trestous.
Saturne d'or en fer se changera,
Le contre FAYPOZ exterminera tous,
Auant l'aduent le ciel signes fera.
Leave, leave Geneva every last one of you,
Saturn will be converted from gold to iron,
"Raypoz" will exterminate all who oppose him,
Before the coming the sky will show signs.
He uses this quatrain to cite Delores Cannon's idea, whose
translations I consider spurious, who translates Raypoz,
"the positive of the contrary ray." Of course she is
less a scholar and more a mystic, claiming to "channel"
Nostradamus' spirit messages from the other side. RAYPOZ, I have
no doubt, is an anagram of a person's name.
Anyway, I will say this much: prophecy does not support the idea
of our world being gobbled up by a black hole as this would cause
the extinction of all life on this planet. Of course if prophecy
is wrong, anything can happen (as you well know).
In closing, I'll repeat this much I have already written other
emailers:
But if for some crazy reason I am wrong ... then all of prophecy
is wrong ... then all religion and all faith is wrong. Then we
may all indeed die tomorrow and our world with it. If so, what
can be done?? Pray to God?? That would be a supreme waste of
time. I suppose then that tomorrow is as much a test to see if
humanity is worthy of continuing as a species. Are those who rule
this planet really that weary of life to take such a chance?
Mike
2 eights
and a nine
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael
Skøtt Andersen
To: Michael McClellan
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: 2 eights and a nine
Hi Mike
When I started up my office pc at work today, I was reminded
about the Irlmaier Prophecy: I see quite clearly three
numbers, two eights and a nine.
It would also fit the glove today but I hope not.
I think that soon nobody want to qoute the old saying " I
like Ike", cause if this hurricane hits USA as a big 4 then
there wont be much left to like.
On the night between august 30. and 31 I had quite a dramatic
dream:
I
was sitting in my livingroom and looked out trough my window. The
window is facing north: Suddenly a big and brown tornado swooshed
by close to my home, from east to the west, or from right to
left. Tornados the size like the ones in USA is allmost never
possible in Denmark, so I was a bit shook up. Then I went outside
and from the cloudy sky above I saw 5 fingershaped tornados side
by side like fingers on a big hand, that either were stopping or
were about to touch down, I don't know. After this I was suddenly
in Paris france and looked up on a gigantic mushroom shaped
cloud, first I thought that it was a big tornado. It wasnt. While
I was looking up on the underside of this cloud there came first
one then a second and then a third flash of fire, close to the
top of the cloud. Then I thought that it was some sort of delayed
nuclear explosion, and that I was going to die now.
When I woke up I realised that this was the wrong way for a nuke
to explode, it always starts with the fire and then the
mushroom-cloud comes along. If the symbols that I have been used
to from earlier dreams is valid, then this "Nuke" means
that some sort of dissaster is on the way for france and its
capital. And since the cloud was seen below it could mean that
one of the leaders of france is targeted perhaps the president,
and since the fire also were seen from below it could possibly
mean that some lower ranking person or persons is behind it.
Denmark could also be facing some sort of unrest, possibly we
will get of easy this time round:
Its not the sort of dream you want to wake up from when its your
birthday. I think I will have to send a complaint to the
dreamdepartment ;-).
I am sending a link to a musicvideo with some dramatic music from
a Danish Band, Carpark North: It has just been released:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids..individual&videoid=41953171
I hope that you are well and that your health is improving.
Friendly greetings
Michael
Skøtt Andersen/ Copenhagen d'annemarc
* * * * *
Hi Mike,
Ike may do to Texas what it did to Louisiana in 2005. We will
know on the weekend. If it does to Florida or Texas instead what
happens in my dream vision, McClellan (4/28/01) http://www.newprophecy.net/dreamwindows14.htm, major cities like Tampa
and Miami may vanish under walls of water several hundred feet
high and mounting.
The other "two eights and a nine" for this year,
September 9, 2008, is nearly over here in the US, without
incident. All that remain now is August 8, 2009: probably when
Russia will invade Europe and Israel. Still, as you point out in
your other letter, there is the particle acceleration test
tomorrow.
Freak tornadoes have occurred elsewhere in Europe over the last
few years. I have linked to such reports. But I am not sure about
Denmark ... but it could still happen.
The nuclear cloud in Paris you saw was likely both real and
symbolic. You saw a flash "three times." I must tell
you now that unless we veer from our present course, after the
Russian invasion of Europe is repelled, the revolution in France
that may begin next year will, due to Islamic intervention,
become a terror in 2010 ... a second "reign of terror"
under a very dreadful "little" antichrist, a French or
Spanish puppet leader the Muslims will use.
Mother
Shipton:
Three times shall lovely sunny France
Be led to play a bloody dance
Before the people shall be free
Three tyrant rulers shall she see.
The first time happened in 1789, resulting in the terror from
1793 to 1794. The second one comes soon, and it will see the
fiery (probably nuclear) destruction of Paris by its own people.
In one prophecy by Pere Nechtou:
During this revolution, which shall very likely be general, and
not confined to France, Paris shall be destroyed so completely
that, twenty years afterwards, fathers will promenade their
children over the ruins, and they will ask what place that was;
to satisfy their questions, they will tell them: "My child, here was a
great city; God destroyed it, because of its crimes."
It shall be rebuilt, however; Nostradamus says it shall. The
third and final Terror to come to France will not occur until the
end of human history as we know it: the time when a beast and
false prophet shall reign and usher in Armageddon.
Those are the three flashes of fire you saw: three upheavals and
reigns of terror that will plague France and its city. The
mushroom cloud however also tells you that Paris will be
destroyed one time only by a nuclear weapon or device during one
of the three upheavals.
Thanks for the Carpark North link Mike. Will check it out.
Meantime, I do like the latest single from Coldplay.
Cheers,
Mike
Ring
of fire
----- Original
Message -----
From: richard
tassey
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:16 AM
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/25aug_nlc.htm go to this link
Go to this link, The clouds are at the right height for the ring
of fire, The color of the clouds are the right color. NASA is
wondering why we have them up that high.They say they contain
water and may be when the ring happens,it drops water infested
with bacteria. I thought It was strange enough to bring up ..
infested with microbes. We will see, I do know that it is close
So get ready ... Richard Greywolf tassey .. I took this pic at 3am
... I have many more of these .. Different shapes that look human
.. I will let you go .. NASA is asking what are clouds doing up
that high
* * * * *
Hi Richard,
You may be right about this. But I do have to remind you that,
despite the fact that these clouds continue to be a mystery, they
have been being seen regularly since the 19th century (1800s).
Also, elsewhere in the article it says, "The first sightings
do coincide with the Industrial Revolution.." The Industrial
Revolution began in 1750. That is a long time!
The one circular image on the site I did see I would expect to
look like a ring because it was shot over the north pole.
In any event, these clouds may have something to do with the ring
of fire you have seen. Time will tell.
Thanks,
Mike
catastrophe
seen
----- Original
Message -----
From: Guardian
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:21 PM
Subject: catastrophe seen
I have had dreams since I was young lasting up through adulthood
of a meteor impact in the pacific basin fracturing the pacific
plate. The result is a loss of much of the west coast and a major
rearanging of the rest of the country. This is going to sound
really wierd in fact it took me almost two years to tell my wife
but I was told that we were going to have 7 years of plenty to be
followed by catastrophe. I finally got up the guts to tell my
wife, after telling her I wanted to see if there were by chance
any predictions for the year 2012 and whoa found a lot. I have
since been shown that in the year that it happens it will be
before the harvest of any plants so early summer or possibly
spring of that year. Hard to tell which one because it looks the
same here at both times but it wasnt wet and raining so I tended
toward early summer ie end of May or some time in June. Meaning
one cannot count on setting up food stores or hay that year so it
must be done in the previous year.
Thank you for your time
Guardian
* * * * *
Hi Guardian,
Your instincts serve you well. I myself have arrived earlier this
year with the belief that things won't go bad until 2012 (or
maybe not for another 28 years) rather than 2009. Yet Russia's
actions demonstrate that a 2009 climax is still possible if we
are not careful.
From a base 7 perspective I can tell you this (and it will be
posted on my site): 2012 is aligned with 1816, the "year
without a summer." So I agree with your conclusion. This
could easily happen if a supervolcano like Toba erupts. It would
have to be Toba, because the consequences of a Yellowstone
eruption for America would be too terrible to contemplate.
An asteroid of just the right size, such as you have envisioned,
impacting in the Pacific would make more sense though, for that
would cause the western shelf of the US to fall into the ocean as
well as create a kind of nuclear winter.
Mike
Russia
----- Original
Message -----
From: Ivan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:01 PM
Subject: Russia
Hi Mike, how are you keeping, well i hope, at this moment in time
i have a very bad eye infection and am quiet run down, it's
getting to the point in England that a temporary job never mind a
permanent is hard to come by. The EU have backed down over
Russia, fearful that Natural Gas and Oil will be cut off from
Europe, Again the French and Germans have let everybody down once
again, for they get 1/3 of their fuel from Russia. The Chancellor
of Britain says that we face the worse economical down turn for
60 years! using the word recession but not the "D" word
Depression saying that we face a severe crime wave due to the
economical conditions and the Russians know America has a war on
two fronts and are in the middle of a political impasse whoever
gets in. Starlin did the same after 1945 took land, when he knew
that the world had no stomach for another fight, and Putin has
timed it just right! So the prophecy of the prophetess of
Bulgaria Vanga, may just be right, Russia will come to the
forefront of a certain amount of world domination led by the
glorious "Vladimir" but will finally over step the mark
and meet their fate on the hills of the Golan Heights Ezekiel 38
and 39.
God bless ivan.
* * * * *
Hi Ivan,
This letter is intended to cover the last several emails you
mailed me. Goodness knows there is more you sent previously I
must consider.
I am all too aware of the problems you are all having in the UK.
It is quite terrible. Some of the people I know who live in the
UK talk about the trouble with the economy and the worsening
crime (teens and twenty-something punks attacking and murdering
bums, the poor, or people just in the wrong place at the wrong
time and "trashing" them for the fun of it ..
disgusting), and the rising food and petrol prices ... It is
little wonder either there is so much anger directed at the
Muslims moving into the UK .. I understand the government bends
over backwards to give them housing, good jobs with good pay, and
leaves you, the average citizen, paying the bill .. not to
mention those money-wasters living at Windsor Castle who are not
even proper English. Prince Charles actually wants to turn Great
Britain into a Muslim country?? Ha ha ha, what a loon! With times
as hard as they are, it is little wonder Christianity is fast
becoming a minority religion, with rises in paganism and
satanism. But who can blame the people for turning against a
witless prime minister like Gordon Brown, the greedy old Queen,
and a god who seems to be on permanent holiday??
Anyway, just wanted to let you know I am aware it is hard there.
Here in the US things have not reached such extremes yet, but we
do not have very far to go to get there! Again, too, it depends
on what part of the country one lives in. Where I live is the
most depressed part of the entire country and has been since the
late 1970s ...
Well, Putin is definitely going to make things worse for Europe
as a whole and especially Great Britain. It is no accident either
that his hand-picked successor, for that is what he truly is,
Dmitri Medvedev, was (or still is) head of the Russian oil
conglomerate GASCOM. What does it say in Revelation near the
beginning about "wheat" costing so much, but
"spare the OIL and the wine"? Looks like the time of
the fourth horseman is drawing near as this war of aggression,
religion, and territorialism (read "war on terror")
becomes a war for oil as well! See how the Russian Vladimir plays
America's "terrorism" card every time he needs a
pretext to invade another country or oblast. How convenient
terrorists the Chechens were whenever Russia had to
"prove" to the world that they had a problem too with
Muslim fanatics and terrorism. And, of course, the Georgians were
acting as terrorists this time around against the innocent South
Ossetians, Putin argues. And inside every South Ossetian, we
should all know (according to the puppet Medvedev), is a proud
Russian trying to break free. So now we have witnessed our first
successful Russian war of annexation, the first of many to come.
Ivan, I been reading the Bulgarian blind prophetess Vanga (that
you recommended I read).
Her very accurate
prophecies of Gorbachev and Reagan ushering in a new peace
between their countries, the doom of the nuclear submarine Kursk,
and the catastrophe of 911 not withstanding, she seemed to
completely avoid predicting a world war ... let alone a Gog and
Magog war against Israel. Even with "Vladimir" being
the greatest world leader, it is only because Russia
"survives" and escapes massive flooding (Planet X?) the
rest of the world must suffer. “Everything will melt
away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir , the glory of Russia are
the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive,
it will dominate the world. (1979)
It is very obvious she does not see a global war happening
anytime soon or else she would not have predicted the following:
“The
trains will start flying in 2018. They will be powered by the
Sun. Earth will take a rest since they will stop extracting
oil.” (1960)
It is hard to believe technology will be that advanced in 2018,
even if the worst stage of World War III is over by 2010 (if the
Russian blitzkrieg happens in 2009) or 2013 (if the Russian
blitzkrieg happens in 2012). After the Russian invasion of Europe
is repelled by "yellow dust" and the Russian invasion
of the Middle East, especially of Israel, by "fire"
(from God?), so that only 1/6 of the "glorious" Russian
army remains, the Muslims will go on fighting in southern Europe
while the civilians fall prey to revolution, civil war, and mob
violence. History shows that such afflicted countries take
roughly 3 or 4 years to straighten themselves out and at least
another 1 or 2 years to address and purge the foreign influences.
Then after all of that, 50% of the time such countries then
become vulnerable to giving rise to a dictator (or a change in
types of dictators if there was a dictator partly or entirely
responsible for the revolution or civil war).
Thus, if Vanga's prophecy for 2018 is true, then we must manage
to avoid having a world war. This is entirely possible. It is the
third path I have mentioned the world may take that is backed up
by a whole batch of other prophecies (some from Old Europe, some
from the Great Pyramid, some from Jeanne Dixon, some from
Nostradamus, etc) that place a global war beginning in Europe
around 2038. And of course we already know the asteroid Apophis
will plow into the earth on April 13, 2036 unless science finds a
way to stop it. Of course this could be World War IV ... that was
always my initial impression. However, if we can prevent a global
war now, we might postpone World War III until 2038.
I also do not buy the idea that the G-8 is what is meant by the
following: “We
are witnessing the events of paramount significance. Two big
leaders shook hands. But we have to wait for a long time before
the Eighth One will come forth and sign a final peace agreement
on Earth.” (January 1988)
This reminds me of the way fans of Nostradamus can get carried
away with their interpretations, substituting organisations,
wars, revolts, animals, planetary objects, and all kinds of
things for what is clearly intended to be a human figure. When
read in the context of the two big leaders, who are likely
Gorbachev and Reagan, "the Eighth One" is obviously an
eighth Russian ruler, with Gorbachev being the first. That makes
Yeltsin the second, Putin the third, and now Medvedev the fourth.
I have absolutely no problem believing the Eighth One literally
means the eighth Russian president, meaning there are three more
to be suffered after Medvedev before the eighth one comes.
I am quite impressed with Vanga's accuracy. However, what she has
thus far revealed is not useful for purposes of knowing what will
happen if a world war breaks out with Russia on one side with
Iran and the Muslims, and the powers of The West on the other.
Oh. by the way, I cannot save a freeze frame image from a video
on the Internet that is pasted onto a Microsoft Works Word
Processor file either, Ivan. I don't know why, but it will not
work. Even if it says it is a jpeg, the machine apparently does
not recognise it as such.
That pic of Putin with Gadhafi will prove quite useful. Thanks
for the link. I have Putin with Assad and Ahmadinejad.
There is one problem with Ezekiel's vision being realised in our
time: there is still Jeremiah's vision of a world war in the
Middle East to contend with. In his scenario, the bad guy who
attacks Israel (after Israel has destroyed Damascus) is from Iraq
and has the aid and support of Iran. This future Iraqi leader, or
king of Babylon, actually destroys most of Jordan, a small
portion of Saudi Arabia, the northern part of Israel, conquers
Israel, and enslaves the population or drives them out as
refugees. Jeremiah only vaguely hints of countries outside of the
Middle East (ie, possibly Europe, Russia, US) until the period
after Iran and Iraq have jointly conquered the Middle East. Then
the nations from afar will gather together and surround Iraq,
utterly destroying that part known as Babylon (the central
portion) or else the entire country of Iraq. Then they attack
Iran, destroy a small portion, and drive many Iranians out of the
country to live as refugees. Iran (Persia) then becomes a
Christian colony. How long it will remain as such is not
mentioned.
Note that if there was a Russian-Iranian invasion of Europe, it
was carefully not discussed by Jeremiah or not revealed to him.
Instead, that part of the war was revealed to Daniel in Chapter 8
and Chapter 11:1-4. However, if Russia were to invade Israel in
this same war too, there is no mention of it by Jeremiah (and
that would not be overlooked or avoided). Thus, it is likely that
Ezekiel's war is yet another world war or else it is part of the
aftermath of the world war, after Europe has dealt with Iraq
(Babylon) and Iran (Elam).
The above scenario is consistent with Nostradamus' view of a
reckoning against Iraq and Iran at the conclusion of a world war
by "the King of Europe" (who resembles a gryphon), and
also by figures named Chiren/Chyen and his successor Ogmios
(either who is likely to be this "King of Europe").
However, there is also a chance that Jeremiah's war happens long
after Ezekiel's. Thus 1) Ezekiel and Daniel 8 and 11:1-4 may be
two facets of World War III and Jeremiah may be about World War
IV OR 2) Jeremiah and Daniel 8 and 11:1-4 may be two facets of
World War III and Ezekiel may be about World War IV OR 3) Daniel
8 and 11:1-4 might be World War III, Jeremiah might be World War
IV, and Ezekiel may be World War V.
Also, none of these conflicts discussed in the Bible have
anything to do with Armageddon, yet another world war (VI or
VII), which appears in the Book of Revelation. The only other
prophecy that likely addresses Armageddon is Daniel 11:40-45 and
12:1.
Obviously we cannot be sure whether it is Ezekiel's/Daniel's war
or Jeremiah's war that is coming soon, or all three, so we have
to be prepared for anything!
Take care of that infection, Ivan, and may God Bless,
Mike
Aussie
celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen dies
----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie Allen
dies
hi Mike
Louie from Australia here. How you going? I hope all is well with
you.
Just wanted to let you know of two celebrities news recently that
you might want to look into for your celebrity Deaths and mishaps
sections. One in particular whose name was Christie is on the
list.
British born Aussie singer Christie Allen dies of cancer.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24175897-5005961,00.html
Here is another article that might be of interest - depending on
your views on its nature and also on his name. I do realise he is
not huge actor - just one of those soap stars, but just in case.
Home and Away star Todd Lasance hurt in Sydney car crash
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24176427-5012974,00..html
Just thought I'd keep you update and I will try to do more in the
future.
Ta
Louie
(I know you won't but just the same, please don’t include my
work email addy ta)
* * * * *
Hi Louie,
Long time since you last wrote. How are you?
As you may know I have only gotten around to putting up the new
Celebrity Deaths and Mishaps page about 1 August. I can see right
now that Christie Allen's death for sure was prefigured by the
prominent name sound influence of dead actress Christine Larson.
Not sure about Todd Lasance.
Thanks for notifying me about these. No celebrity is too obscure
for The Celebrity Deaths and Mishaps page, not usually anyway!
Thanks again and Cheers,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Louis
To: Mike
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie
Allen dies
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=622178
Here's another one - Mark Priestley's co-star Joelene Anderson
hurt in car accident - third such incident to hit the series All
Saints in 3 months.
----- Original Message -----
From: Louie
To: 'Mike'
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie
Allen dies
Hi Mike
yeah it has been a while.
I had a life changing experience last year and I decided not to
have internet access for 18 months so I can cope with the changes
I am experiencing. Soon I plan to get a new PC and have access to
internet again and then I can be more in touch.
recently I accidentally came on to this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2007 were you aware of these links like this that might
be fo help to you?
And finally, here's a link to one of the much loved actors who
committed suicide overnight. Mark Priestley. http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24254076-5001021,00.html. He was one of the reasons why the Aussie series
all saints enjoying a new surge of success.
I hope you are doing well and look after yourself.
Louie
* * * * *
Thanks Louie,
Slow down though, man. I haven't even had time to work Christie
Allen onto the Celeb page yet (she will get on for certain), let
alone all these others (assuming they fit the proper profiles,
etc) *LOL*.
Kathryn, my other reader, will be away for a few weeks, so it is
just me answering the emails for now, so please bear with me.
Thanks again,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie
Allen dies
Hi there mate
Erm sorry two more Aussie well known celebrities dies (although
they were in their 80s when they died)
Respected actor/director Michael Pate - http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24280913-2902,00.html
Aussie TV gardening Guru Kevin Heinze - http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24281309-2902,00.html
In regards to Mark Priestley's death, your comments on the
website regarding previous celebrities suicides by jumping from
the building gets higher each time really amazed me (but not
surprised really). I sincerely hope there wont be any more but I
doubt it as history usually proves it. On a similar matter, last
year an Australian newsreader Charmaine Drugan also committed
suicide by jumping off a well known suicide cliff near Sydney.
She incidentally had also been suffering from depression since
her teens I believe (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22701243-5001021,00.html)
It may be unrelated or a bit too late but just want to keep you
informed. My question is: is it possible that a newsreader's
death could trigger future newsreaders' death or it don’t
discriminate anyone? This has always been on my mind ever since I
learned of Charmaine's death and the murder of Jill Dando.
Please do take care mate
Louie
* * * * *
Hi Louie,
That is very sad. Charmaine was a very pretty girl.
Yes, I was expecting some sort of fallout over Jill Dando's death
in 1999, but never found it in 2006. Apparently this was an
adjacent fulfillment, happening the year immediately following
2006 (2007). If true, then the Dando-Dragun deathline is only
being established. We won't know for sure until 2013 or 2014. I
would not expect a gap this soon (seven years going by without a
repetition). If this is a new deathline, either Dando's year
(1999) will become a past adjacent for 2000, or Dragun's year
will be a late adjacent for what should have happened in 2006.
There was a kind of repetition in 2006 I suppose when freelance
writer Jill Carroll (note the same first name as Jill Dando), who
was on assignment for the Christian Science Monitor, was
kidnapped 7 January in western Baghdad. They threatened to shoot
her in the head or decapitate her live on videotape. However, she
was later released unharmed.
At best that was a close call, bit it is also a bit of a stretch
moving from a glamorous TV presenter to an on-the-field female
journalist. It most certainly is now that it turns out that the
very beautiful Australian presenter Charmaine Dragun committed
suicide in 2007.
Of course, we must bear in mind that there was one other notable
death of a TV news presenter. This was the case of news presenter
Chris Hubbock who committed suicide live on television in 1970.
Hubbock's last words, by the way, were "And now, in keeping
with Channel 40's policy of always bringing you the latest in
blood and guts, in living colour, you're about to see another
first -- an attempted suicide." After uttering that fateful
warning to the home audience, Hubbock shot herself in the head
live on the air during the broadcast.
The trouble here is that if Jill Dando was linked to this event,
her death should hav occurred in 1998 and not 1999. Of course, as
an adjacent fulfillment that is fine. But then the line would
have to be established as either
1970-1998(1999adjacent)-2005-2012-etc or else
1970(adjacent)-1999-2006-2012-etc. A second late adjacent (2007
instead of 2006) for a first late adjacent (1999 instead of 1998)
works against base 7 logic since the 1997 event would be TWO
years off the line and not one.
Ergo Chris Hubbock is likely not on the same line as Dando and
Dragun. It becomes even more obvious that Dando and Dragun belong
together on the same line and not Hubbock because 1) both were
nationally famous, whereas Hubbock was local, and 2) Dando and
Dragun are similar names, both beginning with the letter
"D", prominent "a" and "n", and two
syllables.
When I have a chance I may post this tragedy as a base 7 alert on
the 2007 Part Two page.
Also, this deathline will no longer be one related to homicide
only since Charmaine committed suicide. This opens up the
possibility that anything can happen, including car/plane crash,
accidental overdose, ski accident, etc. Eventually when these
deathlines have been established over a long enough period, even
death due to natural causes can end up being a reason.
Regarding the two celebs in their 80s, I no longer deal with
celebrities who are quite old, save for those whose names are
still on the master prediction lists I compiled back when I was
not following an age limit. Theoretically when they all die off,
there will be no more old celebs on the lists. Name lists are
tailored from the master list to match each current year's name
sounds (so all the names on the master list are never on the page
each year obviously, just the ones that match up). I no longer
add new names of old celebs still living to the master list
either. In rare instances when I have a very strong feeling an
elderly celeb may die who is not on the list, i might place their
name on the page, but that is very very rare (I think it has only
happened once). Reports of elderly celebs dying are completely
ignored no matter how famous unless their names happen to be on
the prediction lists.
Take care and Cheers,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
Louie
To: Mike
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Aussie celebrities update - Aussie Singer Christie
Allen dies
Hi Mike
thank you for your detailed explanation indeed. Charmaine was
very nice and sensitive lady.
Yeah when I first heard of Charmaine Drugan's death I was
reminded of Jill Dando. I kept getting the feeling Charmaine's
death could be linked to Jill Dando's death but I wasn't sure
mainly because of the way they died and to a lesser degree the
date (although I had read your explanation on the year adjacent
subject, I am not 100 percent sure ). Like I said before it has
always been on my mind and wanted to ask you about it. Until now
I didn’t have access to the internet for 18 months or so. So
I thought OK just ask Mike whether the newsreader deaths could be
repeated. And with your detailed explanation it is very possible.
As for Jill Carroll my gut feeling is she is not really linked to
this timeline. Hence why I thought I should let you know of
Charmaine Drugan.
I recall reading an article about Hubbock's suicide and thought
my God he actually did that LIVE on air. But those words he
uttered was very chilling indeed.
About the elderly celebrities (80 yo +) I thought of your
explanation after I emailed you about the celebrities but I just
thought just in case.
Thank you again and look forward to hearing from you as always
Louie
Putin
-----
Original Message -----
From: anonymous
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: Putin
Mike,
Is it possible that Putin's true rain could have started with his
appointment to Prime Minister and he is the third Antichrist?
Nostradamus talks about an appearance in 1999 of the King of
Terror(Putin).
The
year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror(Putin).
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols(Dmitry
Medvedev)
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
The Great king of the Mongols could be (Dmitry
Medvedev). Resuricated by Putin to conquer
the world?
Didn't Nostradamus say that no one would have predicted or
prepared for this considering Putin lead most of the world to
believe he was a man of peace. Lately he has been anything but
that. Nostradamus also talks about an agreement broken that aides
in the start of WW3. The US and Russia have broken many past
deals under the Bush administration.(Missile shield, Nato
agreements) I do believe whoever is the third antichrist WW3 is
well underway..
* * *
* *
Hello,
Yes, it is possible that Putin is the third antichrist or, should
I say to be more accurate, part of the third antichrist.
Neither of Nostradamus first two antichrists were a single man
but, rather, a movement, revolution, and related beneficiaries of
movements or revolutions.
The first antichrist was the French Revolution and its darkest
stage, The Reign of Terror. Out of the tumult that was the
revolution and terror came the overthrow of the Directory in a
coup and its leading personage, Napoleon Bonaparte, who become
Emperor Napoleon the First and conduct a series of conflicts in
Europe known as the Napoleonic wars.
So, who was the first antichrist?? Actually, every leading figure
behind the revolution, the terror, and the Napoleonic era. Thus,
Jean Paul Marat, Georges Jacques Danton, and Maximilien Isadore
Robespierre as the Revolution's leaders, with Robespierre
ultimately becoming the leading personage behind the Reign of
Terror. After his death on the guillotine and the winding down of
the terror, General Napoleon Bonaparte managed his way into the
new government, overthrew it, then earned his title of emperor
after a series of military victories against the enemies of
France, after which he began a campaign of conquest. Much evil
was suffered by innocent people because of these men, and during
the Terror the Church was persecuted like it had not been since
the early imperial age of Rome under the emperors. Many Christian
citizens were subjected to horrible tortures and executions
during the Terror. The guillotine was probably the most humane
method of extermination in comparison. Under the Napoleon, the
Catholic Churches were ransacked, nuns raped, monks murdered, and
the Pope perecuted and taken hostage, dying in capitivity.
The second antichrist, Nostradamus identified as a movement that
would cause great war and bloodshed in Europe. Its symbol was the
crooked cross and its principal leaders were a butcher from Italy
(Benito Mussolini), also identified as Il Duce; a leader born at
the beginning of the age (1889), also called Hister (Adolf
Hitler); a traitor in France (either the old appeaser Marshall
Petain or the Nazi colloborater, Pierre Laval), and a "great
one from Asia" (Hideki Tojo).
It is easy to say who the leading personage of these various
figures that made up the "second antichrist" is today.
If we like we can say it was Adolf Hitler. But to Nostradamus
they were all a part of the second antichrist.
Looking back, it is a bit harder, I think, to determine who the
leading antichrist figure was in the first manifestation.
Napoleon was a great conqueror, but Robespierre was a madman who
caused hundreds of thousands to die horribly and wickedly.
So, is Putin and Medvedev the Third Antichrist? We shall see.
I did argue that Putin could be the 'king of terror' back in
1999, as you have, because he became prime minsiter in August and
first led a war against Dagestan then Chechnya in September. Then
again, Clinton and Nato conducted an atrocious air war against
Serbia over Kosovo from March through June of that year, and it
was quite dreadful to see. I have never been able to resolve
whether Nostradamus foresaw Clinton's war or Putin's war for July
1999, since the Kosovo war ended in June and the Chechnya war did
not begin until August. July was a neat dividing barrier between
two very horrible and lengthy air campaigns.
Medvedev will not truly become 'king of the Mongols' unless the
Soviet Union is re-established. Then he would be leader over the
five Mongol-Turkic-Tatar Central Asian states. On the other hand,
China prospered under Bill Clinton's administration who shared
much of our technology with them (and looke the other way when
China stole additional secrets).
In any event, don't look towards one man to be the
personification of the third antichrist just yet. I may believe
it is Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and I may agree that
Putin and Medvedev can be added to the list. But there shall be
others yet to come. Also, Nostradamus warns that "twice put
up and twice cast down, the East shall also weaken the
West." This is one of many key clues that the West shall
fight two wars against the Muslim axis. The first war is only now
beginning to shape up. if this first war is World War III then
obviously the second will be a World War IV. Nostradamus says of
the second war that it is waged by "the great Empire of
Antichrist" which will be "those of the Attila and
Xerxes come down" to launch an invasion of Europe from the
east and straight downwards from the north. At that time Russia
will be a conquered nation living under the Eastern antichrist's
rule. That does not sound like today. Xerxes is certainly
associated with Persia (Iran), but Attila is associated with
Central Asia ... and there are currently no prominent figures in
the former Soviet Central Asian states. Central Asia is unlikely
to become a danger to anyone until the 2020s amd 2030s.
Thus, it shall be a long ride before history decides who the
greatest of the figures of the third antichrist will be. Remember
that one of them shall lead a war lasting twenty-seven years.
Nostradamus says he will begin his war against Russia in 2025.
The invasion of Europe will not take place until 2044.
Twenty-seven years comes out to 2025 to 2052.
There is a remote chance we will prevent World War III from
happening now or soon. If we do, perhaps under President John
McCain, who will be like Reagan in 1980 and Eisnhower in 1952, we
may put it off another 28 year cycle of the calendar. Thus, World
War III may not become a concern of the West until 2038 because
even if Russia is at war in its own backyard from 2025 to 2037,
the West will be at peace. Therefore, the 27-year war will either
be a postponed WW3 or else a second global war of this century,
WW4.
So, in summation, the Third Antichrist is actually "the
great Empire of Antichrist" currently being formed by Iran
and Russia. Eventually the territories of Attila the Hun and
Ghengis Khan will merge it.
The name of the leading personage of this Third Antichrist now
developing will not be agreed upon until after the 27-year war
has been fought. The first antichrist lasted from 1789 to 1815.
The second antichrist lasted from 1922 to 1945 (Mussolini came to
power in October 1922). The third antichrist may have begun with
Ahmadinejad in Iran in 2005, Medvedev in Russia in 2008, or Putin
in Russia in 1999. Whichever is true, the great Empire of
Antichist will not come to utter ruin until 2052. Thus, the years
of the third antichrist are either 1999 to 2052; 2005 to 2052; or
2008 to 2052. And at some point during that period, a very
terrible personage will start a war that lasts 27 years.
Mike
Gog and
Magog/Ark of the Covenant
----- Original Message -----
From: Ivan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:35 AM
Subject: Gog and Magog/Ark of the Covenant.
http://www.debka.com/index1.php
Hi Mike, I think we have our Gog and Magog identified now !
Russia and Syria, both are situated to the north of the land of
Israel, accompanied by (Persia) Iran, Libya,Ethiopia Togarmah
(Turkey) and Gomer (Former Islamic states of the Soviet Union)
Ezek:38v1-12, possibly, Rifaat al Assad comes after a middle
Eastern war occurs to bring peace to the Earth (Israel)
Rev:6v1-2, for in Rev:6v4 peace is taken away from the earth.
Concerning another matter, "The Ark of the Covenant" in
2Macc2 v 4, it says, "It was also contained in the same
writing, that the prophet, being warned of God, commanded the
tabernacle and the ark to go with him, as he went forth into the
mountain (Jeremiah's cave) where Moses climbed up, (mount Nebo)
and saw the heritage of God." 2Macc2v5-6 states "And when Jeremiah came
thither, he found a hollow cave, wherein he laid the tabernacle,
and the ark, and the altar of incense, and so stopped the
door." And
some of those that followed him came to mark the way,but they
could not find it.
2Macc2v7, states " which when Jeremiah perceived, he blamed
them, saying, As for this place, it shall be unknown until the
time that God gather his people again together (1948) and receive
them unto mercy".
God bless Mike, ivan.
* * * * *
Hi Ivan,
Thanks for the Debka page and the many links to stories I will
find of use, two in particular. The other one about Russia
considering nukes for Syria, Mediterranean, and Baltic Sea I
already have. I believe the link is posted on the Gog War
prophecy I have at the bottom of the 2008 Part Three page (http://www.newprophecy.net/2008part3.htm).
I am always a little hesitant to call it the "Gog and
Magog" war because technically the Gog and Magog war does
not occur until the end of the millennium of Christ when Satan
deceives the nations and launches one last battle against New
Jerusalem, after which he is thrown into the Lake of Fire. So I
tend to call the one for our time Ezekiel's War of Gog, Land of
Magog or simply the War of Gog or Gog's war.
Then again, I suppose we could just as easily call them Gog and
Magog War I and Gog and Magog War II. Too bad the writer's of the
Old Testament did not think in such modern terms, it would have
simplified everything.
Anyway, I believe this war may already have begun. We are led to
believe that Gog and Magog 1 is when Russia (and it would appear
Syria and Iran) move against Israel, but actually that is the
climax of the war. I have always thought that Russia will make
other moves in the south before going to war against Israel,
including taking Armenia and Azerbaijan by force, re-invading
Afghanistan and driving out the US and Nato, possibly aiding the
Taliban, so as to set up bases, warring with Nato member Turkey,
warring with the US over Iran, Iraq, and possession of the Arab
oil fields. All of that would be an early stage of the War of Gog
(or Gog and Magog War 1), leading to the inevitable attempt to
invade and assault Israel.
I
would like to say that I do not know if this war is for our time
or not. It all depends on whether certain key figures are put
into place. If Obama loses his bid for president and McCain wins,
we may see World War III postpone for another 28 years. McCain is
an old leader like Reagan and Eisenhower and prospects for him
winning in 2008 are similar to what they were in 1980 and 1952.
If he does, things will not be set up again for a WW3 scenario
until after Apophis strikes the planet in 2036. If that happens,
global war and Planet X will not happen until the period 2038
through 2052. In that particular configuration, a Gog and Magog
war is less likely and will not happen until the next global war,
which will not occur until 2193. However, if Obama wins with
Hillary Clinton on the ticket, then it is all over for sure by
2012, with the beast (or beast archetype) ruling from June 2009
until December 2012; or March 2012 until September 2015; or June
2013 until December 2016. The same if Obama picks Ray Mabus or
any female as his running mate. If Obama picks a male, and that
male is not Ray Mabus, and wins, it is a wild card situation.
As you can see, there is a long view of prophecy or a short view.
Either can happen and still fulfill the prophecies of scripture
to the letter.
In any event, yes, obviously Persia will be united with Russia
and Syria against Israel. Again, what bothers me about this is
that Ezekiel only gives Persia a subsidiary role. If we go to
Daniel Chapter 8 and 11, Persia is the major player and the
dynamic of the coming war is east-west not north-south. The same
is true in Jeremiah. In that great future conflict it is Elam
(Iran) and its ally Babylon (Iraq) that does all the damage in
the Middle East, including a successful attack and decimation of
northern Israel and temporary occupation of the remainder of
Israel until "the nations" from abroad or foreign
nations (Europe) gather to punish Iraq and Iran, utterly
destroying Iraq (Babylon) and turning Iran into a colony.
Unfortunately there is no mention of a great nation from the
north parts going against Israel in either Daniel or Jeremiah.
Thus, I can see Daniel's war and Jeremiah's war working together
as aspects of the same war, but I cannot see either of them
working with Ezekiel's war. That is why I am not 100% convinced
that this is the time of the war of Gog. Let us not forget that
Russia has a bigger beef with Nato right now (the West) having
cut ties with the organisation today, then it has with Israel
(the south).
Nevertheless, it is possible for this to be a north-south war and
an east-west war both:
Hepidanus v.St.Gallen (1010-1088) ~
From North to South, the world will be split into two mighty
hosts. The North will march against the South, the son against
the father, and bring misfortune with him across the mountains as
the night follows the day... A gloomy cloud will appear, and a
terrible tempest will come forth from this cloud. It will consume
a third of mankind, still living then. And it will destroy a
third of all the crops, villages, and cities, and there will be a
great misery and lamentation.
A mighty empire will vanish thereafter, and another will take its
place. From the East blows a storm, from the West a hurricane
howls; woe to those who come into the sphere of this bloody
whirlpool. Thrones a thousand years old will fall from the
height... between the Rhine, the Elbe, and the Danube there will
be a vast morgue, and a landscape of vultures and ravens... When
a sign of fire will appear in the heavens, the time will have
come close for these days to engulf humanity.
As you can see, Ivan, St Gallen resolves the issue of an
east-west war vs north-south war by prophesying that both will
occur. It would appear the Gog invasion of the Middle East and
then Israel and subsequent destruction of 5/6 of Russia's army
will come first followed by the east-west war between the
Muslims, led by Iran and parts of the former Soviet Union, and
the Europeans. It may well be that when Russia attacks Israel it
also attacks Germany, Austria, and Italy when the 5/6 of its army
is destroyed by the yellow dust defence launched by Western
Europe and by fire from sky brought down by God Himself. But the
war will not end because the Muslims will still be around to
plague Europe for several years more.
The "sign of fire in the heavens" I take to be Planet
X.
It would appear that the powers that be are planning this war as
a "phony Armageddon" so that the beast (Rifaat
al-Assad) can be easily placed on his throne and his false
prophet (Rabbi Yosef Dayan) as the new messiah. No one will
question it, believing Christ's kingdom on earth has begun by its
ministers (Assad, who establishes a covenant with Israel for
seven years, and Dayan, ordained as king of Israel and a new
messiah) when it will only be a counterfeit reign.
Regarding the ark of the covenant, I think Nostradamus foresaw
the time and circumstances when it shall be discovered:
Quatrain
7.1
The ark of the treasure by Achilles deceived,
The quadrangle discovered in the documents:
The Royal deed, the intention will be known,
A body seen hanging in view of the populace.
Many interpreters of Bible prophecy believe that the discovery of
the Ark will coincide with rebuilding of the Jerusalem temple at
the site of the current Temple Mount, signaling the imminent
arrival of seven years of tribulation and the ascendancy of the
beast of Revelation.
The mythical Achilles symbolizes the king of the north as he
appears in Daniel Chapter 11. There will be fierce competition
between the two warring factions, a northern federation (northern
Europe as defined in classical terms along with nations of the
former Seleucid empire and adjacent kingdoms) and a southern
league (Mediterranean Europe, northern Africa and the
Arabian/former Ptolemaic Middle East) to discover and acquire the
Lost Ark. It will fall into the hands of the king of the north
who will hold it for a time before delivering it to the Israeli
government as a diplomatic gesture. The hung corpse will belong
to an executed agent or ambassador of the south.
Notice that we still do not know the location of the discovery,
only that the ark is found.
Thanks Ivan. Hopefully I will find the time to update the Rifaat
and Dayan articles. I have the Gog, Land of Magog prediction as
far as a possible dating for the early stages and final stage at
three locations (2007 Part Two, 2008 Part Three, and 2009 Part
Three). Unfortunately in 2009 Part Three it is buried in the
World War III and Planet X article. I must isolate it and place
it in the August or September 2009 section.
With any luck, this war will be postponed.
Thanks for sending your views and the links along, Ivan.
Take care,
Mike
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Original Message -----
From:
Ivan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: Gog and Magog/Ark of the Covenant.
Hi Mike, nicely put, Gog and Magog (part 1 for Ezekiel 38v1-12,)
and Gog and Magog (part 2 for Rev:20v7-9) I think we are most
certainly facing part 1 now, (please read today's alpha omega
report on the very latest on a very serious threat facing the
world since the bay of pigs incident), Mike, i like the idea that
you picked up on the 9th of AV. Correct me if i am wrong but
didn't ww1 start on the 9th of AV or was declared on that day!
Mike, i was trying to find the root name for Putin, but the
nearest i came up with was Rasputin which means an immoral person
from the common noun rasputa but then i maybe trying to fit a
square peg into a round hole and seeing something that isn't
there.
Some commentators see the name Rosh as the ancient name for
Russia, Meshech as Moscow and Tubal as Tobolsk i'm keeping an
open mind on that one, but isn't it strange the the two countries
to the north of Israel have now, or will be signing a millitary
pact together. There is no doubt in my mind that we have Gog and
Magog, even if it is only as you say part 1. nicely put.
God bless Mike, thanks for the e-mail, ivan.
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