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Occult Doings At Madonna Concert

From: A Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 PM

Hi there,

I hope you are well, it's been a while since I've sent an e-mail to the Madonna e-mail forum, but I recently went to Madonna's 'Sticky & Sweet' concert in London and as with all her concerts, it was spectacular. However, she did seem to toy with the occult at times, ie) after performing 'The Devil wouldn't recognise you', she performed 'Spanish Lessons' with dancers dressed in black cloaks, which seemed slightly dark, also, when performing '4 mins', there was a male dancer standing near her, with a black hood on, which made him look like, something of an executioner! - also, re. the short video interludes, one to 'Die another day', where she depicts herself as a boxer, towards the end of the video, she starts singing in a frenzied manner, 'Die, Day. Die, Day', ending with an image of blood trickling down the screen. Also, the short video, 'Get Stupid', focusing on social/political issues, was rather 'controversial' and prior singing 'Hung up', she shouted 'the Queen will topple the King on the 29th' - ??! - I'm pretty sure that's what she said and my partner thought she said this too. Neither of us could work out what she meant by that remark though?!!

But it's at her concerts, you really get a sense of how powerful she is, thousands of people, completely in awe of this woman, quite frankly, since she takes such an interest in politics/social issues nowadays, I'm surprised she hasn't considered running for president, after all, as she gets older, there's bound to come a point when she will want to slow down a bit, (although her energy seems to know no bounds for the moment!), but her power and influence on the masses is so great, running for president, might not seem so laughable, however, if she was to have seriously considered that, she probably would of hinted at it by now, maybe she'd rather concentrate on becoming an alternative religious figure (ie) Kabbalah rather than a political figure. In fact, I saw a concert-goer wearing a t-shirt, with 'Madonna for God' printed on it - that says it all!!

As for the short video footage of Britney, despite, seeming like she is better now, I just get the feeling she's lost her spark, of course if she on anti-psychotic meds. there's a good chance they make her a bit zombified, I'd like to think she is genuinely better now, but as said, she seems to have lost her spark, which makes you wonder if she is really as ok as she is trying to make out.

Anyway, best wishes,

A Marilyn fan

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Hi Marilyn fan,

It is good to hear from you again. Thanks for sharing this too, because it supports my view that Madonna is attempting to expose her fans and the pop world to the darker elements of the universe, in particular a realm I have read about on some witch's and wiccan's websites, along with those authoring sites who practise astral projection, about a place that they call 'the darkside.'

I believe the men dressed in black, in some cases actually in monk-like garb with hoods and cloaks, are supposed to be Satanists, and that when two of them grab Madonna, one on each hand, they are symbolically preparing her for something like a human sacrifice. After all, she is similarly attired on the piano when she sings 'The Devil Wouldn't Recogise You' ... I think that says it all. The executioner figure, I suspect, is exactly that ... but not for Madonna. If there are 4 minutes to save the world, and there is a symbolic executioner near, I have a feeling he is waiting ... to destroy humanity. After all, the song is directed at the listener and video viewer, so it is intended FOR the audience. We are the ones who have 4 minutes or else ... what? That is what I have not yet figured out. Who is this executioner supposed to be?

Madonna's blood lust is showing in her 'Die Another Day' video if what you say is true. She has it in for Christians I think. Dedicating 'Like A Virgin' to the Pope was just the beginning ... soon she will be performing mock executions of Christians I suspect.

I have to tell you, I don't have a clue what she is talking about, but that strange remark she has made about the 'Queen' toppling the 'King' on a specific date, September 29, 2008, is a bit frightening. It sounds like a threat ... a threat to someone very real.

I suspect by the year's end Madonna shall be an alternative religious figure ... and many fans do indeed regard her as a human goddess. If you have read my article about Madonna ascending to goddess-hood I have already compared her to the ancient Babylonian whore goddess Ishtar. As the 'Mother of Harlots' she has a stable of young girls she is grooming as standins for her and for her successor: all those pop tarts like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Miley Cyrus, Fergie, Jessica Simpson, on and on ... all waiting in the wings to be the next whore of babylon!

I think, though, she has made up her mind to sacrifice Britters. I agree she does not look like she is really 'back' ... I don't think she ever will be back. Britters is a zombie now, just waiting for the command to self-destruct. Madonna's kiss IS the kiss of death.

But anyway.. hey, best wishes to you too Marilyn. Glad you shared this 'inside view' of a Madonna concert with me. It actually sounds a bit distressing and I am not sure I would really want to be there. I can only say it this way: Madonna now looks and sounds EVIL to me .. her eyes are especially evil and hypnotic ... and I do not think I would really want to witness her wielding the evil power she has over her millions of fans firsthand.

Thanks again and take care,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn fan.
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Thank you very much for replying to my views on Madonna's 'Sticky & Sweet' concert. Like yourself, I get the underlying feeling Madonna's performances often have 'hidden meanings', that there is more to them than meets the eye. I did once read on a website about the 'illuminati' and the reptilian connection and how they can shape-shift, but one of the giveaways, is that 'hypnotic, direct' stare which many top celebrities/politicians do, also, Madonna raised her hand up in the air at one point at the concert and did the 'devil's salute' as I have read it is called.

One thing I also noticed, like at the 'Confessions' concert when she performed 'Live to Tell' on a crucifix, there was a strange feeling fell upon the venue, something rather dark and likewise, when she performed 'The Devil wouldn't recognise you' and also, when the video interlude 'Get Stupid' came on, showing images of disharmony in the world and images of dictators, etc, I felt it a bit then. I think because I am aware of the possiblity that Madonna is the 'WOB' or as good as, I notice these things more.

As for that random remark, about the 'Queen toppling the King on the 29th'!! - I have tried to work out what it could mean, is she referring to herself as the 'Queen (ie) of pop'?? - who knows!!

Thank you again for responding, I always find your comments interesting. I understand she soon performs in 'Seville'', (ie: the predictions of a fire incident in Seville when she performs there), however, Madonna has had several brushes with death ie) falling off a horse, death threats in Russia, a car trying to chase her car off the road, but she does seem 'invincible', as you once said, maybe she is being 'protected' by some unseen force, which might not necessarily be of God.

Well, best wishes, until next time,

A Marilyn fan.

Madonna is in serious danger

----- Original Message -----
From: michelle
To: Mike
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Madonna is in serious danger(letter for madonna e-mail forum)

I have been waiting for this to happen, Madonna looking gaunt and ill. The pressure of all that is biting her ass now, has been building up to a pinnacle over the past couple of years. She is in a lot of danger, more than she cares to admit to herself or lets on to her family. There are forces at work here even she cannot pay off, and dare I say it the S**t IS hitting the fan for her.

Madonna has been careful up till now, watching every move she played with absolute authority, but something is obviously going wrong. She has never managed to reach her ultimate goal, the one thing that has always eluded her and she is getting desperate, she knows time is not on her side and now this fact is making her push to a point that may kill her.

For Madonna this is a last ditch attempt, it is all or nothing and the reason why this tour is so important for her to play out this year. This tour should have actually been next year and unless she calls it off or splits it into a two year drag out, she is putting her life on the line.

Her goal now is too important for her and she must achieve it whatever the cost.

But Madonna's role has become more than she herself bargained for, there are those who would wish her death and those of you would wish her harm, but they do not understand or see why it is so important she plays out the role she does.

I will stress there is more going on here than most people see. Madonna's 7-888-2-confess splattered over her t-shirt as she appears thin and ill-looking is not a joke, nor is it a trick that is easily fallen into.

Usually I would have not said a word, kept out of it, but things are getting bad on several levels. If she is to get through this time unscathed she needs to be addressing the issues she has about control. Not everyone is a puppet! And acting in a more responsible manner with her actions.

I would also advise that she learns patience. Rushing head first at this time is not a good idea and to also think very carefully what she does next. She has the opportunity now to realistically reach her goal, but FIRST she must prove she is worthy. Something she has always failed at so miserably in the past (working your ass off to get nowhere*LOL* I know all too well about that).

There is ONE thought Madonna should learn to use right now.

Prove that you are capable of your goal and it will gladly be given to you.

Michelle

What's Next For Madonna, Who Can Take Her Place?

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi there

I hope you are feeling better now. I must say I was totally perplexed by the recent e-mails from Joseph D re. the 'Beauty and the Beast' theory!! - that aside, I have to agree with Michelle, it seems Madonna will never be satisfied, it's as if she needs constant validation that she is worthy, which suggests despite all her success, a deep emptiness within, maybe this is all tied up with losing her mother when she was young, having heard her touch on this 'sensitve' subject in interviews, she morealess said, 'it changed her', which is understandable I guess.

I imagine Madonna, all too aware, that she is starting to 'get on' a bit as far as being a female entertainer is concerned in an 'ageist' industry, is in a 'race against time', (like her song '4 mins', a sense of urgency!), to keep going and remain the best in the game, until she really gets too old to strut her stuff in front of thousands of people in arenas/stadiums, wearing leotards and being controversial, but in saying that, she is probably fitter than the average 20 something and looks better in a leotard too for that matter!!

Although, there are a handful of female contenders out there to take her place as 'Queen of Pop', none of them seem to have the discipline and steely ambition as Madonna. Britney was the obvious contender for some time, but she seems like a 'zombie' these days, controlled heavily by her father, etc, she seems to have lost her 'spark'. Kylie herself is getting on a bit herself and although her image these days and videos/ and concert performances, etc are definitely revealing a 'darker' Kylie, she hasn't cracked the US, which of course is a hugely influential market and she doesn't seem particularly bothered about doing so and despite dabbling with a 'darker' image, one can't help get the feeling that Kylie is essentially a 'nice' girl. I am not overly familiar with Miley Cyrus, who I understand is very popular in the states but I am aware she has courted controversey several times, posing in provacative pictures at still a young age, I wonder if she is being groomed to ultimately step into Madonna's dancing shoes!!

Xtina Aguilera was at one point a potential contender too but she seems to have lost her popularity somewhat, we certainly don't hear much about her over here in the UK anymore and then there's Beyonce and Rhianna whose popularity is at all-time high. I would say Mariah but she is also 'getting on' a bit, although I understand she remains hugely popular in the states and then there's Amy Winehouse, arguably talented, but she really seems to have lost the plot and there's X-factor winner Leona Lewis, who I understand is proving popular in the states, but she seems too 'nice' to ever be the new Madonna and her music is more high-powered ballads, there's also Natasha Bedingfield, a UK export who now resides in the states, so she can build her fan-base over there and I understand she has succeeded very well, but like Leona, she seems too 'nice' At some point Madonna is going to have to 'step down' but if she persistently strives to remain in the limelight at all costs, I guess one can see how this could put strain on her marriage.

I read that the 'divorce' is to be officially announced after her tour has finished and that she is hiring the same solicitor Paul McCartney used recently, I have also heard there were no pre-nups made so potentially that divorce could get nasty!!

It will be interesting to see what she's got up her sleeve for the 'Sticky & Sweet' World tour, something controversial without a doubt, after the 'crucifix' scene on the 'Confessions' tour, what can she do to shock us even more!! - I guess we'll have to wait and see!! - I still think she is the most influential female artist today, despite her age, so I would have to agree with you, she is the one out of them all, most likely to be the WOB.

I have wondered actually if she is aware of this site and has read any of your WOB theories, maybe that's what inspired her to nearly call her 'Re-Invention' tour the 'Whore of Babylon' world tour!!

Best wishes

A Marilyn fan

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Hi Marilyn Fan!

Yes, my health seems better now. But I still have sleep apnea and narcolepsy to contend with which does impair some of my days and keep me from being active. The narcolepsy caused me to have a car accident back on March 5. I fell sleep at the wheel. It was only for a few seconds, but that was long enough for me to wake up as the car smashed into and drove through a deer crossing sign on the left side of the road, causing the windshield to shatter completely and making it impossible for me to see, then smashed through a guardrail, and ended up careening down into a culvert filled with water up to my neck. The whole thing seemed like a very bad dream. Fortunately I was not harmed (but the car was totalled).

Anyway, I am doing what I can to resolve both problems at this time (the apnea and narcolepsy), and am more careful about when and where I drive, but I have to admit it will probably be another month or two before I am receiving the proper treatment. I hope there will not be any more health troubles (only last Friday I went to hospital thinking I had a heart attack and it turned out to be a pulled muscle). I have really had my plate full for the last several years, and none of the medical problems were even related ... just one unrelated thing after another unrelated thing, all real, none imaginary! And I was rather young when this run of bad luck with my health began in 2003 (only 49 when it all started, now I am 54, but still look 38). This is the sort of thing one would expect with a man 20 years older than myself.

Regarding Beauty & the Beast: At first my reaction to Joseph D's email was that he was some kind of nutter, either that or else there was a famous married couple in entertainment history I had overlooked, the wife somehow possessing all the required characteristics of the "whore of Babylon." In actuality, after receiving about a dozen or so articles from Joseph, each one copyrighted and mass emailed to different other personalities with websites, including a musician who played many years with the late Frank Zappa, I came to realise his is a satirical view of pop culture from the 1950s to present day and society's ability to find a personification of almost any religious or prophetic icon found in sacred writings, in this case the Bible and the Book of Revelations.

Using three members of his own family as examples, who apparently were used as models for famous children's toy dolls (popular toys at the time), he creates a grossly satirical story-telling technique to connect these family members to critical world events occurring at the debut of their doll's release to consumers. Also, again in a satirical vein, he associates his mother, who was a little known showgirl, with certain female icons of the 1940s and 1950s, by word and name associations, as wll as coincidental events occurring in his mother's life and the lives of the icons which he claims were patterned after hers (thus his mother, the little known showgirl, becomes a "phantom" version of Marilyn Monroe for example, which is to say a kind of behind-the-scenes psychic inspiration for the real actress). It is wild satirical fiction to say the least, but then again so was Woody Allen's film Zelig.

I have not decided what to do with these many installments he sent out. Although they make interesting reading, they would take up a lot of room on the website to post all at once, unless I release one at a time on the regular Email Forum, llowing each one to circulate to another page before putting up the next one. Don't really know yet.

There certainly does seem to be a sense of urgency about Madonna these days, doesn't there ... in her songs and in her behaviour. The question is whether she is racing against something or racing towards something .. it is so hard to tell why she is in such a hurry! Yes, there are few replacements for the "whore of Babylon" image I have to agree: Britters is definitely OVER, Christina Aguilera has been overlooked and will likely continue to be, and Miley is just too young, although one day she might make an excellent little wob.

However, I would not underestimate Kylue Minogue, despite her inability to be a major attraction on US and Canadian television. The music-buying public is not merely Top 40 oriented and her album "X" did sell well even if her singles did not. What is important anyway for a potential successor of Madonna (and possible second "whore of Babylon") is that she appeal to the European audience. America will usually come around in time.

Even though she is 40, Kylie is still young. 40 is NOT old anymore these days. Even 50 isn't really. She was even voted the sexiest woman in the world earlier this year.

In all honesty, I must say this: despite all of the behaviour and various images Madonna has subjected us to over the many years, Kylie Minogue has 'the look' -- a natural appearance -- that seems in keeping with a facial profile of the Whore of Babylon. My entire genetic memory is screaming out to me that she has what it takes. She is a beautiful woman, without question, indeed even an incredibly cute woman, yet she has aspects about her that can only be called 'sexually over the top' or 'overly erotic' if such a thing is possible. She has the leer and the eyebrows one would associate with great wickedness and lust. And the dark side of her nature she is now sharing with us is also very seductive indeed ... and is more than equal to Madonna's brand. Yes, I definitely like the 'darker Kylie.'

This has led me to conclude that Kylie was contesting the dubious honour of being the wob with Madonna by timing her single releases of '2 Hearts' and 'All I see Is You' in Europe and her album release of 'X' in America to coincide with Madonna's own single release of '4 Minutes to Save the World' and album release of 'Hard Candy.' Soon Madonna's tour will begin and be in tandem with Kylie's current tour. There is also no question (as you have also mentioned) that the sets of many of her recent videos, along with the costumes and makeup, have been very 'dark' in nature (including her role in a Dr. Who episode where she is burned alive, also an interesting note here that Dr. Who has two hearts).

What saddens me about this is that Kylie Minogue, seething sexuality as much as she does, is in some ways the same kind of 'innocent' that Marilyn Monroe was. She seems to be manuevering her way towards being the wob by accident or coincidence and not at all by any wise calculation on her part, whereas Madonna has seemingly been planning and calculating the position she has attained since the very beginning of her career. The thought now occurs to me that someone may be guiding Kylie in her career at this point without her knowledge of what she is getting into nor what the consequences may be should she become the real, endtimes "whore of Babylon" (whereas it appears Madonna has merely set the precedent for the wob). Then again, now that Madonna is divorcing Guy Ritchie, perhaps she intends to play the "whore of Babylon" role to the very hilt !

The consequences could be very dangerous for Kylie, in any event, should she ambitiously continue to seek the wob title, especially during her current world tour (she already has fallen on stage once). But that largely depends on the nature of the continuing 'surprises' she has in store for her fans that she has mentioned on her own website.

Meantime I suppose it could still be a brainless Britney (as unlikely as that may seem) or a posturing Paris who are the ones being groomed for wob-hood. Paris Hilton, in fact, may have what it takes after all. And the Disney factory, run by the Illuminati, continues to pump out new potential little wobs like Miley Cyrus.

One other candidate, however, comes to mind that also seems obvious to me: have you ever considered the pop singer Fergie? She was so hypersexual when she played live at NYC on New Year's Eve, I thought she was going to explode!

Yes, it would not surprise me if Madonna has gotten ideas from my site for her projects. But understand that she was playing with the wob image way back in the early 1990s. Her release of the 'Justify My Love: The Beast Within' remix in 1993 was the actual declaration of who she thought she was and is: the "whore of Babylon"! But something was lacking amid all the sexuality, edgeplay sex (sex with risk of injury or death), and anti-Christian views ... all three of which she was expressing in songs, films, videos (like Bad Girl), and a photo book (Sex). What was missing was her own religion. To be the wob, she would have to latch onto a "mystery" religion and she finally found it when she joined Kabbalah. Had she did this back in 1989 or 1990, before she began expressing her dark side in 1991-94, she would actually be the undisputed WOB today and for the last 15 or 16 years ... no one would be questioning it.

Thanks for writing again.

Warm regards,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan!!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Thank you for responding to my e-mail, I didn't feel my e-mail was particularly 'enlightening' in any way, but as I find this 'WOB' theory rather intriguing, I thought I'd send an e-mail about it as it's been some time now since I last e-mailed you, but I am glad to hear you are better now, health problems are a worry aren't they, sometimes you feel someone up there really doesn't like you!! - I certainly can relate to that ... (edited)

When you are suffering from personal stress and then watch the TV and see that yet another youngster has been shot or stabbed by another teenager, it can make you quite depressed about pretty much everything. The UK is definitely becoming a more violent place. Society just seems to have broken down now to such a degree, I have read that society breaking-down is a sign we are nearing to the 'end of times, we just don't seem to 'respect' each other anymore, marriages&lives seem 'disposable', like rubbish!!

Obviously, I am aware that 'Fergie' was a member of the 'Black-eyed peas', but since going solo, with the exception of the hit, 'glamorous', she hasn't really made her 'mark' over here in the UK yet, but I guess there's still time, she certainly seems very 'feisty' and has a lot of energy. That aside, I am very interested to see what Madonna will get up to on her next tour, she's bound to do something 'controversial', I would love to go and see a show, but unfortunately, tickets to her shows these days seem to be 'sky-high', I just hope the concert is released on DVD!!

Despite Nostradamuses quantrains about a famous female coming to a tragic end, ( and I know Madonna has been considered re. one or two of them!!), she still seems to have avoided tragedy. I know a couple of years ago, she was playing with the image of 'Thelma Todd' but despite being on her 'timeline' she also avoided an unfortunate ending like the above mentioned. If not Madonna, maybe it will be another female icon (Kylie, Britney??) who will come to a tragic end, a lot of these female icons like to 'play with fire', maybe one day, one of them will get burned!!

I must say I do think Britney is being 'controlled' heavily these days, she looks sad in pictures, as if she's been 'brainwashed', it's a shame what's happened to her, I hear her so-called mother is releasing a book all about Britney and revealing things about her which I think is rather insensitive, some things should be kept private, but I get a sense Britney's mum is a real showbiz mum (no wonder Britney has fallen out with her before!!), like Britney, the UK talent Amy Winehouse, has gone off the rails, the way she's going, she won't be around much longer, she clearly has a drug addiction, which despite help, can't seem to kick, her performance at Glastonbury recently was about as embarrasing as Britney's MTV performance of 'Gimme more'!!

Anyway, thank you for replying and I daresay I will be in touch somewhen!!

Best wishes

A 'Marilyn' fan!!

Is Madonna Pushing the Envelope?

----- Original Message -----
From: michelle
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: Is Madonna Pushing the Envelope?

Madonna's marriage on the rocks? No suprise there then. Madonna will never be truly happy, the simple reason, she is in pursuit of something she can never have. So how does she deal with this? Control or assume, first she will try to gain authority over a person, most people roll over like good little doggies, but if she cannot control someone she just assumes their identity, I feel sorry for Guy, she has totally assumed his role in life, no wonder he is running for cover.
Madonna will NEVER stop, continually going one step further with her daring stunts till she get's what she wants, but that's just it, she will never get it. It is no suprise Madonna is going on tour, when she is unhappy or she fails, she goes on tour, it is her outlet and her way to make herself feel better. In her last tour she hung up on the cross in purple and scarlet, getting people to confess to her in booths scattered around the arena, so what next?

How about performing miracles? Healing sick people on stage, bringing fire down from the sky or bringing dead people back to life? But heck she is Madonna and we love her for it, most of the people out there would sell their soul for just a night with her, so how can we not kiss her ass while she happily bends down for us to reach it? But when she finally realises, it is her own actions that stop her from attaining her true goal, mabey it WILL be too late!!

Beauty & The Beast

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:57 AM
Subject: Beauty & The Beast

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Here is your phantom like a virgin "Madonna," aka "The pop culture Beauty" and her husband "the beast;' your Madonna is a false attention seeking exploitative deceptive prophet who pretends to be this woman, among many other members of her little family ha ha ha ha;

As for the coming of the "dark age" of top 40, bear in mind that there are forces that determine when the good and the bad eras occur; just to let you know, you will be seeing "light" much more than "dark" because the force out here has the ability to control it;

At best, the era of "darkness" will not be as popular as you believe it will be, should the theme take flight in the autum of 2008, because truth being provided in specifics about the practice and specific lyrical theme format orgins of all music slows it- hope that helps- it's time you recognize the reality part that is fueling alll of the pop culture fantasies out here and have been at work since "the beauty" (aka harlot of Babylon) first made the scene in NY, NY in 1943

Boytoy's lucky star (son of the Beauty & 2nd beast), NY

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Hello Boytoy's lucky star,

Not sure if you are mocking me or not, but this is a fabulous and intruiging email all the same. I am not old enough, unfortunately, to know who these people are from 1943. Since these are your parents (grandparents?), I would obviously require your permission to post your email and this photograph.

Actually, every generation has had contenders, if you will, for whore of Babylon. Theda Bara was quite obviously an early prototype too, posing provocatively as she did nude and semi-nude with skeletons (which in itself, as with the skull, has occult symbolic signifigance going back to the ancient mystery religions). The tragic repercussions of seeking to symbolise the babylonian whore religion and culture were evident in the life of dancer/choreographer Isadora Duncan whose two children drowned in a freak accident, prompting her to stage a Danse Macabre performance in New York and Paris several years later, before her own bizarre and untimely death strangling on a scarf that was trapped in the spokes of sports car in which she was riding. No doubt Eva Peron was once considered to be one (little wonder Madonna chose to portray her in Evita). But, then again, Argentina was not the world. Marilyn Monroe was being groomed for the role too, but her brand of sexuality was too 'innocent' and 'girlish' ... and the whole affair with the Kennedys proved to be her undoing. More failed attempts with Jayne Mansfield, Edie Sedgewick (courtesy of Andy Warhol), Farrah Fawcett, Deborah Harry and others. Assuming TSHTF does not happen, I am sure there will be others after Madonna who will seek the role, including Kylie Minogue, Britters (if she survives), Paris Hilton, or rising star Fergie.

The "dark pop" will be a short-lived phenomena, as I said, like psychedelic music was (true psychedelic, that eventually produced the likes of the Jefferson Airplane and Moby Grape). It wont last long, but will make a mark. You probably misunderstood me: I dont see it as being the biggest thing to happen since swing in 1939-53 or rock n roll (later simply called 'rock') from 1955 to the present. Its reign will be short and reflective of the times we are, unfortunately, living in. But these mini-eras, like the disco era or new wave era, also brief, do contribute to the overall evolution of pop music.

Something that has also occurred to me: Beatles = le Beast. John Lennon claimed to be the antichrist in 1966. Liked Lennon and his music very much, nevertheless.

In any event, if you wish to expand on your comments regarding Beauty and the Beast, who I am not familiar with, and the whore of Babylon, feel free to do so.

Best wishes,

Mike

----- Message -----
From: Joseph D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Beauty & The Beast

Hi, Mike- I read your response quickly so if I missed anything, forgive me, but I saw a few of the key questions you had-

"Beauty" is my mother (aka marilyn monroe/liz taylor phantom); beast is her husband;

The McCartney thing is my biological father (the second beast from 6/66);

I am the prochoice poster child from 1966

Bear in mind that 90 percent of popular musical themes dating back to 1943 follow an ongoing storyline involving my mother, her husband, my father, me, my wife and my 4 brothers and sisters

Here are some clue "code" names that will be of help for you:

"Miss American Pie" (1971)- my oldest sister
"Material Girl"/daughter of babylon (1985)- my second oldest sister
"Pinball wizard (1969)- my brother thomas
"Happy Jack" (1966)- by oldest brother John
"Hey Joe/Son of Monster Magnet/Baby Love (1964, 1966)- me
Nowhere man/fool on the hill (1965, 1968)- my biological father

Let's look at the current scene in 2008- 97 of the top 100 songs are about me; my mother ( the ray of light woman mer girl Mildred Mercaldi ) died in 1997; Miss American Pie (It must have been love) died in 1989

The term "rock & Roll" (and every form of pop has a slight variable) pertains to my family members being made into dolls that originated as plaster sculptures (the rocks); the "roll" part pertains to this ongoing cosmic movie in music going on creating composers/dream merchants relationships to our immediate environment with lyrical themes about our lives up to the minute

"The Beast" sold these scenes for a price from 1956-1972 (papa was a rolling stone)
The daughter of babylon sold scenes for a price from 1974-1987 (if they don't give her proper credit, she just walked away)
"Miss American Pie" sold these scenes for a price during the period of 1965-1972 (and then she said bye bye to the city of Rye, NY where we lived)

Hope that helps contact me anytime ... Sincerely, Joseph D. (son of babylon), NY

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Beauty & The Beast

Hi, Mike- I read your email closer and here are some specific clues that you mentioned

My mother was the phantom Marilyn Monroe - The name was inspired by a musical dream merchant from the 1940's that gave you musical lyrical storylines about my mother; the singer's name was Vaughn Monroe; Monroe the hopeless starlet aspiring actress took a leap of faith and took the name with 2 "m's" to correlate with the identity of my mother, Mildred A. Mercaldi

Bear in mind that in pop culture virutally everyone plays their part; so let's let them take a bow, the night is over, etc. etc.

Paris Hilton plays my wife
Britney spears plays my wife, my sister (daughter of babylon) and even me
Deborah Harry plays my sister the daughter of babylon
Kyline Minogue plays my sister the daughter of babylon
Farrah Fawcett plays my sister the daughter of babylon

Jefferson Airplane is "the family"- me, Miss American Pie, Daughter of Babylon, Happy Jack and Pinball wizard

The part about John Lennon assuming the role of "The Anti-christ" is correct; John played "The beast" in 1964 (money can't buy me love), my mother (Help!, Helter Skelter) and my biological father (nowhere man, fool on the hill, paperback writer, etc.); these 3 individuals all represented that role in 1966 in world pop culture;

In the modern era, you could say that my sister "Daughter of Babylon" is the Antichrist; this variation is based on modern world pop culture themes; my sister does not portray herself in that manner at the current time, however; she only did it in the 70's and 80's to make money and to help fuel American industry to the tune of 1 trillion dollars after she allowed herself to be sold out over and over in music, film, and a role entitled "the supermodel" to name a few; the 1979 publication entitled "Beastly Images And Essays On The Bomb" by Philip Berrigan, Miss American Pie's Catholic fundamentalist mentor tells the story of how my family's images are sold out over and over and over again in pop culture and how the practice is adversely affecting America's status on the world stage because of the secular nature of it all

Ok, so when people portray the D family's absurdist's role model's "point of view," bear in mind that females can and do portray males of the family and vice versa;

Now let's look at some of the world stage "bad actors," being America's enemies- safely assume that most of them are assuming the role of "the daughter of babylon" and apparently these people are motivated to do so only for reasons they know, but I couldn't tell you specifically for sure as to why they do it- hope that helps take care- Joseph D

Madonna, Kylie, and Dark Pop

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi there,

I read your piece about 'dark pop' emerging anytime soon. As for what Madonna is alledgedly planning, it sounds very blasphemous, but as before, Madonna will get away with it because of her status.

It's interesting that Timberland has worked on Madonna's forthcoming album which I understand is to be called 'Licorice'. Timberland produced Nelly Furtado's chart-topping album, Loose, it's strange though, although I really like the LP, it seems to have a somewhat negative effect on me (ie) makes me feel depressed, if I listen to it too much), maybe that album had a touch of 'dark pop' about it. When listening to it, like any music you like, I find I really lose myself in the music, as if I'm in a trance. I have read websites by Wes Penre (who I'm sure you have heard of) so this 'dark pop' theory wouldn't surprise me - mind control and all that!!

Kylie has gradually become raunchier over time, her last video '2 hearts' was quite 'dark' in places, ie) the bejewelled microphone in the shape of a skeleton's head and her black leather S & M style outfit and to think Kylie once was the epitome of innocence, she has definitely come a long way since her 'I should be so lucky' days!! - it seems all these female pop singers who start off 'sweet and innocent', sooner or later become 'bad girls' so to speak, we only have to look at Britney these days to see that!! - I wouldn't be surprised if Disney star, Miley Cyrus is moulded as the the next Britney!

Re. Britney, I have wondered if there is perhaps a vendetta against her by her family and so-called friends, etc. They are all telling us she is very ill and needs to be admitted, etc and of course, that gets printed in the papers, so we tend to believe it. Admittedly, her behaviour has been erratic and somewhat bizarre, but how do we know that everything we read about her is true or hasn't been blown out of proportion or even made up, in which case, you can understand why Britney doesn't stay put as an 'in-patient' for longer then a few days. I do think she suffers from 'narcisstic disorder', her attention-seeking knows no bounds!! - ie) getting out of cars knickerless, etc and has an unhealthy dependence on certain pharmacy drugs and alcohol, etc and I daresay, having her kids taken away from her and her marriage breakdown and other grievances have made her feel depressed, but all this talk of Britney being 'psychotic', etc might well be true, but it might also be grossly exaggerated, I guess time will tell, if she really has lost the plot. Because she's so famous, the moment she is seen breaking into tears in public, she's considered to be 'suicidal' or such like, it's not a sin to cry in public is it?? - she's probably so used to people watching her every move that she doesn't care if she breaks down in public anymore. Anyway, I was just considering this whole Britney thing from a different angle. I'm sure you'd agree that her ex-husband K-Fed and Paris H. seem to like winding Britney up, hanging out with each other, etc. There was a picture of them recently at some nightclub in Vegas I think it was and they were looking at the camera, each with a look as if to say 'this is for you Britney'. Perhaps I am totally over-analysing it all, but I am the sort of person who picks up vibes quite easily and I just got that feeling about that picture.

Sometimes I think we are all too obsessed with celebrity but in saying that they are very influential, I'm sure most youngsters would be more interested in what their favourite artist has to say over a politician!! - of course rap music has been linked to the rise in gun crime over here in the UK recently, with lyrics glamourising gun crime, violence, drugs and women depicted as nothing more then hoes as they call them and in many cases a lot of these young perpertrators were followers of this type of music, so I guess that certain artists do have a lot of influence, worryingly so!! - and as for Madonna (although I've always considered myself a Madonna fan because she's made such classic pop records and is such a great performer), you would of thought as she gets older she would tone it down a bit, but it sounds like what she is planning for the debut video of her next album and subsequent tour is even more outrageous then the 'Live to Tell' performance on her 'Confessions' tour - with someone of her influence sending out such dubious messages via her performances, it could be said she is setting a dangerous precedent!!

Anyway, best wishes for now

A 'Marilyn' fan!

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Hi Marilyn Fan,

I should mention, and it is a common mistake, that the name of the singer/producer is Timbaland. People confuse that name with that of Justin Timberlake (thus Timberland). It doesn't help either that both appear in Madonna's new album and both do production work for it as well (although I think Timbaland does more than Justin).

Dark Pop, in the form of a catchier, beatier, and melodic dark wave rock, along with the dark qualities found in trance and Timbaland's new brand of R&B and rock productions, seems a logical reaction to and reflection of the times in which we live. Likewise the psychedelic era was itself reactionary and reflective of the times which spawned it.

The following few paragraphs may appear as an update to the Dark Pop prediction:

I would add however that there are also indications in the current pop music scene that an effort is underway to re-create the 'feel good' sounds of the early 1970s. Although I work largely with the number 7 in my visual mathematical patterning of history and its influence in our present and near future, indeed the most sacred number found in the Bible and representative of how time actually works, the number 9 also can wield a powerful influence when grouped in doubles or 'workings' of 18 years. If we look at the number of workings closest to the Vietnam era, which we are linked to by virtue of the Iraq War and the War on Terror, we find that two such workings ago (36 years) brings us to 1972. 1972 was perhaps the greatest 'feel good' year in modern history, marking the dying embers of Vietnam and ushering in the dawn of what many hoped would be a much better and happier decade. It laid the foundations for a type of pop music that would dominate the 1970s alongside the disco era that would begin a few years later.

Love Song by Sara Bareilles could easily be a Carole King standard from 1971 or 1972, romantic and bouncy, Barseilles' hit is destined to become as legendary an anthem as any song that ever appeared on King's Tapestry album. Wont Go Home Without You by Maroon 5 actually sounds as though it was abducted from 1972 and transported through time to 2008 for release. It could well be a cover of a hit from that year for all I know. Apologize by Timbaland and One Republic reminds one of the singing style of early Elton John combined with the hopeless, lyrical sadness of a song like Harry Nilsson's Without You. Even songs that do not sound as though they come from that time, like No One by Alicia Keys, at least reflect the idealism and natural romanticism of so many of the ballads of the era.

Thus, it would appear there is a counter movement in pop music at work to offset the darkness that is likewise infiltrating the medium. Who or what is behind this I do not know. But it is for this reason that I believe 2008 will go down in history as one of the great years of music along with 2007. Sadly, however, due to the reality of where we actually are in relationship to world trends, the 'feel good' pop explosion, like the heady and jubulent British Invasion years of 1965 and 1966, will ultimately give way to the dark pop that is being prepared for the autumn of this year and for the years ahead.

OK. That looks good, think I'll use it, *lol*.

The last I have heard regarding Madonna's choice of title for her album is possibly 'Odessey.' It has been denied by Madonna's publicist that Licorice will ever be used as the title. It appears from recent articles that she will revert to her days of Erotica and Sex, making the album a huge B&D, S&M spectacle, especially when she goes on tour with both Justin Timberlake and Timbaland.

The depression you feel when listening to Nelly Furtado's song is typical of the effect dark music has on people, magnifying the low emotions, and that includes not only the darker forms of lust, but also those related to fear, hate, guilt, and grief. When dark pop finally reigns the reinforcing effects on listeners will doubtlessly result in a more powerful and sustainable form of mind control, obsessive lust or longing, lethargy and hyperactivity (manic depressive syndrome), anxiety, panic, despair, madness, homicide, and suicide.

Yes, I have to say reluctantly that Kylie is at least toying with the WOB image. Now that she has publicly stated that she is suffering from multiple personality disorder and has a 'committee in her head' we can see to what extent she has already been brainwashed and programmed for possible WOB packaging. I have not seen the 2 Hearts video yet, but the skull and leather S&M outfit certainly supports my belief she is attempting to set herself up as Madonna's eventual successor. She does have the sexual leer, grin, and wicked eyebrows to pull the image off, although she strikes me as being a bit short. Platform shoes and soles? Yes, platform padding knitted right into the soles of negligee stockings why not? *LOL*

I now agree that Miley Cyrus is the long view for WOB if none of the current contenders are able to pull it off. Last summer I would have disgreed, but since the release of See You Again there can be little doubt she is being prepared.

As I mentioned in a previous letter, Britney indeed may end up more like the 1930s actress Frances Farmer than anyone else ever has. Farmer was not so much destroyed psychologically by the establishment or her fan base as she was by her own manipulative mother and so-called friends! And yes, Paris Hilton and K-Fed are quite evil and attempting to drive her to suicide.

There are some positive messages to be found in rap these days (thank goodness the days of gangsta-style rap are finally behind us for the most part). Sean Kingston, only 17, has attempted to be uplifting in his blend of Jamaican and rap, although his latest hit single, Take You There, seems quite dark on the surface. But he is alternating between the dark and light for a purpose: to show there is a choice that one can make in their lives, and he is clearly trying to steer his girlfriend (in the song) in the direction of making positive choices. He will take her in either direction (similar to the ghost of Christmas Present), but he is using contrast to show that the best choice is always the first one he sings about. It is a cautionary song and free of hypnotic sound effects. Kanye West clearly preaches against greed, mocking it through the hyper-glorification of being rich, in his song Good Life. Bartender by T-Pain reverts to song via voice synthesiser, creating a relaxed, nostalgic atmosphere appropriate for cozy clubs and cocktail lounges.

Its not all bad from the world of rap and hip hop these days. And not all trance sound effects are designed for sinister purposes; some are designed to create euphoria and a sense of well being. Programming can be positive or negative, depending. As for Madonna, I agree: she will be stepping over the line with her latest contributions and could well be responsible for triggering an era of musical and visual darkness in a world where darkness is already beginning to settle like a fog. What she does has implications that will go far beyond the world of pop music and celebrity.

Cheers and best wishes,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Thank you for replying to my recent e-mail about 'dark pop', it made for very interesting reading (as always), re. Miley Cyrus, as a Brit, I don't know much about her only that she is a huge Disney star over in the US and aside from acting is a popular young singer, much like Britney started off.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll hear from me again!

Best wishes

A 'Marilyn' fan!

Kylie Minogue as WOB?

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:26 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi there

It's interesting that you have considered Kylie Minogue as a possible contender for the 'WOB'. If Britney was originally intended to be the 'WOB' after Madonna steps down (if she ever does!) as pop queen, it looks more and more unlikely now that Britney will be the 'WOB' as she is such a mess and without a doubt has lost a lot of respect from people, whereas Kylie has charisma and is universally-liked, I hear lately that she is due to receive an OBE and that Gordon Brown is very fond of Kylie as a person.

On TV before Xmas, there was a one-off Kylie special of her promoting her new album, in one performance she wore little to the imagination and rode on a mechanical bull in a provocative manner, I believe she also rode a mechanical bull in an advert earlier on in her career when she was promoting an underwear line and of course there was that time in Madonna's 'Drowned World Tour' where Madonna wore vest tops, one with 'Britney Spears' written on it in glitter and another with 'Kylie Minogue' on it!

I am not aware of Kylie being a member of Kabbalah or Scientology, etc and despite her 'raunchy' performances, she isn't really that controversial, like Madonna and Britney. I remember when Britney performed live at some music awards ceremony wearing next to nothing (as they do!) with a snake draped around her neck, that image easily conjures up images of what you imagine the 'WOB' to look like.

Re. Britney, she is so unpredictable, who knows what she'll do next, I wish people would confirm once and for all what exactly is wrong with her. Some people say manic depression, some say MPD, Borderline personality, post-partum depression. I understand she has been heard talking quite frequently in a 'british accent', (I read not long ago she is fascinated with the late Princess Diana, maybe she's trying to imitate her!), all in all, it's obvious she needs help, but Britney seems so deluded that she seems to think she doesn't need any!! - it would be a sad day if we woke to hear Britney was no longer, but I don't think anyone would be at all surprised if that happened, the way she's been acting lately.

I saw some pictures of the hedonistic Paris Hilton and sleazy Kevin Federline together and I can see what you mean when you say about them rubbing salt in Britney's wounds! - I have noticed lately that Paris Hilton looks quite 'dead' in the eyes and often looks like she is under the influence of something, despite her wealth and fame, I get the feeling she is not a very happy person these days.

I wonder if Kevin Federline is manipulating the situation re. Britney and whether intentional or not, trying to push her further and further nearer the edge (she's already close enough!). I still consider your suggestion that a celebrity couple (probably American) will die tragically, maybe one will shoot the other then shoot themselves, like the Dorothy Stratton scenario. You get the sense that relations between Britney and her former husband are very volatile, he really seems to push Britney's button's but not in a good way!

Re. Kylie, maybe we'll hear soon of her joining Kabbalah!! - the music industry these days seems to be suffering re. record sales as so many people download their music and aside from middle aged female artists and of course, Madonna, who have been around for a while and accumulated a huge fan-base, there aren't really any younger female artists out there at the moment who seem that they could ever be in Madonna or Kylie's league, due to the music industry being threatened by the internet. I wonder if any up and coming female artists will ever have the staying power and influence like the above mentioned have, so maybe Kylie is the only other option for WOB for the time-being??

Incidentally, I watched Mariah Carey's recent concert (The Adventures of Mimi') recently and there were 'butterflies' EVERYWHERE!! - on the stage, a silver glittery tattoo of a butterfly on her and she wore a big impressive butterfly ring!! - say no more!! - and in the film 'I am Legend' with Will Smith, the female lead later on in the film, has a small tattoo of a butterfly on the side of her neck!!

Best wishes

A 'Marilyn' fan.

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Hi MF,

Yes. Kylie will be presented the OBE by the Queen personally, I believe. Technically she has already won it. Kylie also has the classic looks of a wob, not only is she seductive, sexy, and quite pretty, but she has the wicked smile and equally wicked eyebrows to go with it. Quite perfect, really, for the role.

Yet, when not performing her music, she is quite mundane (save for the wild comedy sketch with Danni). She is quite nice really; maybe a bit too nice to be the wob, whereas Madonna is sooo 'in your face.'

I just watched Madonna's Live Earth version of Hung Up and was completely blown away. What mastery! What a song! And this performance was both thrilling and wonderfully dark indeed. Yet I believe Kylie has the right stuff to pull off something like that equally amazing, but it may be a while. I watched the Kylie Minogue Special from a few months ago on YouTube and was captivated by the entire thing. She is quite polished now and a few of the songs from "X" easily rival some of Madonna's stuff. Yes, she was quite seductive riding the bull near the end of the show, not quite as wild as the lingerie commercial, but good enough for me *G*. The day may yet come when she struts down the aisle like a supermodel in time to one of her songs, giving Madonna a run for her money.

I really hate to admit it, but I think it is over for Britney. She has had it. If she doesn't self-destruct this year, I'll be surprised. Even if she does survive, she'll end up, I fear, like the 1930s actress Frances Farmer: in and out of the loony bin until one day she goes so nutters that she ends up inside one for a very long time. I don't think she'll ever be right. The girl not only needs a shrink: she needs an exorcist!

Yes, Paris and Federline are killing her too. They disgust me: the both of them. Nothing too bad would be bad enough to happen to either one of those two!

I do believe there is one young female music artist who may well replace the likes of Britney and Madonna (although Kylie has a lot of time yet remaining) ... and that's Fergie. Having seen her perform such seductive songs as her new hit Clumsy (and she is practically climaxing on each chorus when she's not gyrating to each verse), and considering all the other great stuff that's been comming off of her recent The Duchess album, I think we can easily see a future replacement for Madonna and Kylie. And of course she is a blonde too. Fergie has classic potential I think that has yet to be fully realised (again, Clumsy gives us a glimpse, I think). If she could only act, she could be another Jayne Mansfield at least, if not a Marilyn. She has a level head too, unlike Britney, which could mean this girl will have plenty of longevity.

Definitely some shuffling around going on here. More super blondes and more contenders for the honour of wob *lol*. It shall be interesting to see how things play out.

Thanks for writing again.

Cheers and warm wishes,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn Fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Hi there

Thank you for your response. Country singer Billy Ray Cyrus has a daughter called Miley Cyrus (otherwise known as Hannah Montana) and I understand although still only a young teenager, she already has quite a following and her concerts have sold out. She also is a 'Disney' star (like former Mousketeer's Britney, Justine and Christina A), maybe she is also a candidate for the WOB as she gets older, (I guess we'll have to wait and see!!).

Incidentally, (I'm sure you are aware of this) but when Britney shaved her hair off, the salon she went into was called 'Esther' of all things!! - I wonder if there is anything in that!! - as Madonna is otherwise known as Esther these days.

The Princess Diana court case which is currently taking place is becoming rather tiresome now, personally, I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it, it looks likely to remain a 'mystery' just like Marilyn's suspicious death.

I noticed Amy Winehouse has recently dyed her hair blonde, although I'm not convinced it suits her but they all seem to end up going blonde don't they, curious!

I have read some people do not agree with Kylie receiving an OBE, but she is obviously in favour with the powers that be!!

Another famous female celebrity, Victoria Beckham, seems absolutely determined that her and her husband David Beckham, become the most famous couple on the planet. I don't think people take her seriously enough for her to ever be a candidate for WOB, but as good friends of Tom Cruise and his wife, it'll be interesting to see how long it is before they are talked into joining Scientology!

Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait and see!!

Best wishes

A Marilyn Fan

letter for e-madonna e-mail forum

----- Original Message -----
From: DC
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: letter for e-madonna e-mail forum

Dear Mike,

Found this and thought it would be interesting to comment on. Three of the rumoured title names for Madonna's new album are 'Black Star', 'XXV' & 'Oddysey', now Kylie has used 'X' and Britney has used the word 'Black', So I would guess Madonna is going to go for Oddysey, and here's why she might do that;

http://www.2012theodyssey.com/index.html

Remember, if Madonna had released her album as planned (bear in mind the working title of this album is 'Connexion'), all three album's would have been out together. Nibiru, is also know as the 'Dark Star' and 'Planet X' and is now being linked to the word Oddysey by this film. Coincidence????? or are we being pre-warned????

thanks Mike
DC

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Hi DC,

Hmmmmmmmmmmm ... still Odyssey, the film, is a reminder that we can change the future: "The Odyssey ... shows us that the coming world is ours to reshape and to remake in any way that we deem possible. It reminds us that we need not be victims of events beyond our control." This IS in keeping with Madonna's philosophy as she has expressed it in her past songs like "Get Together."

Then again, it does admit that great earth changes are comming that will have dire consequences for humanity. Wonder why the woman in the ad is smiling??? Doesn't she realise she is going to die?? Oh well.. so much for marketing strategy..

Yes, taken together, I agree that "Black(out)," "X," and "Odyssey" do constitute a body of work by three women who would love to be the personification of the whore of Babylon, designed to prepare music listeners (at least) for the comming of Planet X and the horror and wonder that shall accompany its passage.

Thanks DC

Mike

Britney Breaks Down Again

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:41 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Poor Britney, after the antics of this Thurs. eve. which I'm sure you've heard about where she was rushed to Cedars Sinai Medical Centre for an urgent psychiatric evaluation because she'd not given her sons back to her ex's bodyguard and was apparently under the influence of some drug, one can't help but wonder if predictions of her commiting suicide are not so far off the mark. I also read on the Perez Hilton site that she has really messed up now re. gaining custody of her kids, she could ultimately lose access to them completely now and that could really send her downhill.

What a shame that such a talented young women has gone off the rails like this, like singer Amy Winehouse, I don't think any of us would be too surprised if we woke one morning to hear on the news that Britney had followed in the footsteps of many other bright young things who have died young, sorry to sound pessimistic, but after the latest drama, it just seems she is so out of control.

And as usual, there seems to be lots of drama occuring around the world since Boxing Day, so many deaths since then. In the news in the UK, there have been about 12 stabbings/shootings since Boxing Day. I find that Boxing Day seems to bring a lot of disaster, etc, ie) one year I believe there was a massive earthquake in Iran and then of course there was the tsunami another.

Anyway, Happy New Year, I guess all we can do is hope that there isn't too much tragedy this year.

Best wishes to you.

A Marilyn fan

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Hi Marilyn Fan,

I saw the images last night of Britney being strapped down and carried away in ambulance. She looked, dirty, disheveled, naked, confused, and clearly disturbed. Alternating between weeping and anger to smiling away deliriously at one of the paramedics, she looked senile and almost certainly deranged. The sight actually made me feel both revulsion and incredible sadness. I had to switch of the monitor and lie down for a while, the images made me feel quite ill. How could one so young become this way? Little by little, Britney Spears is losing her brain, piece by piece, like an old person from senile dementia or Alzheimer's. It is almost horrific. It might be more merciful for her and for her fans if she just overdosed and died peacefully. And Amy Winehouse, whose song about rehab ironically did so well last summer, has overdosed on higher doses of more drugs and lived to tell about it than any other singer/entertainer in history.

Both of these young women appear to be trying to set new records in the domain of self-destruction. I do believe Britney, at least, has been programmed for self-destruction by some diabolical secret society or religious group, possibly Madonna's Kabbalah or other NWO satanic group because she has failed in her mission. See how Paris Hilton and K-Fed, clearly agents of this group, rub salt in her wounds as she slides down the pipe.

Britney does remind me of only one other blonde female celebrity who did survive her ordeals, if you want to call it survival: the 1930s/early 1940s actress Frances Farmer who eventually went insane and was committed to a madhouse and then lobotomised. That was a long time ago, but it could be happening again...

Very sad indeed.

Happy New Years again and warm wishes to you,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:05 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Thank you for your response, I've since read on the Perez Hilton site, that Britney might of 'staged' the whole thing because she is jealous of the attention her sister is getting since she announced she's pregnant. Surely Britney isn't that desperate for attention that she needs to resort to doing that and I can't believe she'd jeopardize seeing her children!! - personally, I think she got in a state about having to hand her kids over. Living in that big mansion on her own must increase her feelings of loneliness (maybe that's why she spends a lot of time staying in hotels apparently!!), she seems to be alienating herself more and more from her family and any genuine friends she's got. The so-called friends she has got, seem to be of a dubious nature and you can't help wonder are taking advantage of her vunerable state.

At least now she's finally getting a proper mental health assessement and maybe they'll be able to confirm what is making her act so crazy. Of course, it could be drug-induced, I guess we'll have to wait and see. My concern is that once she's let out, she's going to become more angry and upset that she can't see her kids because of her antics the other night. (I read that she will not be able to see them at all for a while now), and it makes you wonder what she's going to do next!! - she clearly has self-destructive tendencies and therefore has the potential to do something silly. I know you have predicted that early this year there could be a repeat of the Dorothy Stratton scenario, the situation between Britney and her ex certainly seems volatile enough!!

I agree with you that maybe Britney has been 'programmed' to self-destruct, once she sacked her handlers including her mother who seemed to play a big part in her success, she seems to have gone completely off the rails, it makes you realise how much control all these people had over her and now she's out there on her own so to speak, she really has lost the plot!

I know you mentioned in your WOB piece, was the plan was Britney was supposed to carry on Madonna's legacy when it was time for her to step down (whenever that will be, Madonna seems unstoppable!), but she discontinued her study of Kabbalah which might of been a lot to do with why Madonna cut all ties with her. If Madonna had been a true friend you'd of thought she'd reach out to Britney now and try to help her, maybe she will yet, but somehow I doubt it!!

I read that Marilyn Monroe was re-programmed when she was admitted to psychiatric establishments, I wonder if they will try and 're-programme' Britney and then there was Mariah Carey who had a breakdown, I know you have said she has also been programmed, it makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes. All in all, it's a great shame was has happened to Britney, I guess we'll have to wait and see what unfolds next in the Britney soap opera, as they call it!

Anyway, best wishes

I daresay you'll hear from me again soon!

A 'Marilyn' fan

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi there

I've stumbled across a site called 'The Freemans Perspective - Anna Nicole, Britney and Mind Control', it's quite interesting, I thought you might be interested to view it.

Best wishes

A Marilyn fan

Madonna and Bestiality/Mind-Controlled Slaves questions/Live To Tell as a nun, single cover

----- Original Message -----
From: israell
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Madonna and Bestiality/Mind-Controlled Slaves questions/Live To Tell as a nun, single cover

Dear Michael,

You mentionned it quite a few times on your site. Madonna first dealt with bestiality in her 1992 SEX book. There was a picture showing her dressed as a bunny, spreading her legs on top of a dog lying on their back.

http://www.madonna-online.ch/m-online/galleries/1992/92-10-21_sex/pix/sb_058.jpg

Her second attempt was in her 1995 Human Nature music video, a song she wrote against those who opposed her during the SEX/Erotica/Body Of Evidence era. She said it's "a little 'fuck you' to all the up-tight prudes of the world". She would close her eyes and wave a dog around her face passionately, then mock-whip them. You see a star in the video. Madonna and her dancers form it with a black cord.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJq7-oyEYaY

Her third and final attempt was in 2006 for W magazine photoshoot/portfolio entitled "Madonna Rides Again", her Confessions Tour program and her official 2007 calendar.

The picture, that apppear in all 3 publications, shows her topless, in long leather or vinyl gloves, panties and fishnet stockings wearing a whip before a horse.

http://www.madonna-online.ch/m-online/galleries/2006/06-06-00_w-magazine/sites/w-magazine-steven-klein-06_008.htm

She rode a mechanical bull/horse thingie for her 2001 Drowned World Tour and her 2006 Confessions Tour.

From Wikipedia:

""Human Nature" by slow-riding a mechanical bull on her 2001 Drowned World Tour."

"In 2006's Confessions Tour, the song was given a horseriding theme. Madonna performed the song atop a studded leather S&M carousel horse while x-rays of her broken bones (the result of a horse-riding accident on her 47th birthday) flashed on the screens behind her."

Those two things have nothing to do with bestiality per say but you might have referred to those as such in your articles.

Her private life is none of my business. I can't tell you if she ever experienced bestiality. Hopefully not! LOL! But I have a right to comment on things that she does publicly, sell so people can buy etc. It pertains to the public.

I like her alright. I love her but I'm quite shocked and stunned that she would dabble with bestiality, even if it's not for real at all.

Warner forbade her from depicting bestiality, religion etc. in her book. She however did it when they no longer had a say in it.

It might have been a simple act of fun and rebellion. She said it was about being playful but she depicted it later on in Human Nature and the Confessions Tour program.

Why the Hell would Madonna or anyone be attracted to that? What's sexually appealing in any animal? Why leave a man or a woman for a beast? Anyway...

You said that some singers are mind-controlled slaves, that they don't necessarily act in an erotic manner because they want to. How do they proceed to control them exactly?

"REMEMBER, MOST OF THESE FEMALES HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED, SOME AT A VERY EARLY AGE! SOME, HOWEVER, DO SIGN CONTRACTS." http://www.newprophecy.net/whore.htm

What about those who sign contracts. How, where, when do they sign those? Why would they do it? In order to sell more records, for fame, money, recognition? You should write a longer article on mind-controlled slaves. That would be interesting.

You said, as well as Camille Paglia and AJ Hammer from CNN Headline News' Showbiz Tonight that Madonna gave Britney the kiss of death. Christina did however turn out just fine...

Those women are two completely different persons but the similarities between them are striking!

CHRISTINA AGUILERA:

Jan. 2008 Marie Claire Pregnancy Nudes:
http://www.marieclaire.com/hair/celebrity/behind-scenes/Christina-Aguilera-countdown-2
http://www.aguilerabuff.com/2007/12/04/more-nude-pregnant-pics-of-christina-aguilera/

2007 Maxim Nudes:
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/pictures_and_bio/1263/ChristinaAguilera.girl
http://www.derekhail.com/2007/02/12/christina-aguilera-in-maxim/

2003 Chiristina/Madonna Kiss:

http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1477737&photoID=1778256
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2083/Events/2083/Madonnaand_Mazur_1408730_400.jpg.html?hint=group

BRITNEY SPEARS:

2007 Allure Nudes:
http://www.allure.com/magazine/2007/09/britney?slide=1

"In many photographs you see of her, Spears appears to be an unwilling participant. But she voluntarily posed for Allure's September cover, shot by Michael Thompson, in Santa Monica on April 25. View exclusive outtakes here. For more photos and the feature "Britney on Hold" by Judith Newman, pick up the September issue of Allure."

It says Briney was WILLING to do it. Christina says she's proud of her sexuality, assumes it etc. If they are indeed mind-controlled slaves, those that enslaved them are very very good at it!

2006 Bazaar Pregnancy Nudes:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/entertainment/2006-06/29/content_628709.htm

2003 Britney/Madonna Kiss:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14629048@N02/1499432411/

All of them claim to love God and serve Him. That's what I tell people telling me bad stuff about them, how they might be damned etc. They do both spiritual and lustful things onstage -Madonna's Blond Ambition and Confessions Tour for instance-, TV, documentaries, concerts and seem to be very much blessed by God. They are 3 very powerful megastars with staying power. They are still very much around releasing records after records.

http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1477737&photoID=1778249

I know you were skeptical of Madonna's motives for singing on a cross during the Confessions Tour in spite of her heartfelt explanations.

http://monkeymail.org/archives/madinfo/2006/000431.html

Confessions/Live To Tell -better quality-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pauwqhITYKE&feature=related

Madonna did however dress as a nun when performing Live To Tell in 1990. It shows that the religious element in the song pre-dates her Confessions Tour performance.

Live To Tell/Oh Father http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeTnpcMDe-M

It's funny to see how she evolved from a nun, in 1990, to Jesus, in 2006... Was that planned all along?

The 1986 Live To Tell single cover features a very special and intriguing cross:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-Madonna-photo-Live-to-Tell-trade-promo-ad_W0QQitemZ370004833687QQihZ024QQ
categoryZ29892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

http://i5.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/97/e5/a11c_1_b.JPG

Therefore, Catholicism has always surrounded this song written for her ex-husband Sean Penn's movie At Close Range.

I read your Beast Within lyrics. Madonna has a song called Justify My Love/The Beast Within Mix in which she reads from the Book of Revelation. She pewrformed it during her 1993 The Girlie Show Tour and her 2004 Re-Invention Tour.

From Wikipedia:

"The Beast Within" is a remix of the song, "Justify My Love", released as a B-side to that single. The remix uses only the chorus and certain lines of the original song, with the verses being replaced by passages from the Book of Revelation from the Bible. The song first garnered media attention early in 1991 when the Simon Wiesenthal Center accused the song of containing anti-semitic lyrics. Madonna denied the accusations, explaining that the song was about love, not hatred.

"The Beast Within" was showcased as a dancers' interlude during Madonna's 1993 tour, The Girlie Show Tour. It was used again as the video introduction to the 2004 The Re-Invention Tour, and played amongst apocalyptic imagery of Madonna on video screens, prior to her appearing on stage. It was subsequently included on the 2006 live album, I'm Going to Tell You a Secret.

Regards,

Israell

MYSTICAL MADONNA

Even Madonna's Erotica music video has mystical elements. You see all kind of naughty stuff but at 3:41 starts a religious segment. It shows her whipping herself, lying in a grave, a big luminous cross. She lies in the grave and stands up again, making the cross gesture with her arms, like a resurrection. She does the same gesture on the beach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlayVEnBrx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur3yiRDcn9w

more versions:

emotional Who's That Girl version from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_6kvi9gaGs

Who's That Girl version from Turin, Italy -some interaction with the young dancer, mystical hand gestures between them- ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dEzeZzob0 The way she looks at her hand in the beginning might mean something-

Demo version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fNooBVKuVA

In Take A Bow, You see the Virgin, Madonna sucks her own blood, the Virgin again... Later on, something very naughty in bed... She always mixes religion and sex and seems to receives tons of blessings in her existence...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQV8j8xndc

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Hello Israell,

I have run into these images of Madonna too, some quite some time ago. No question that the ones involving the dog, especially the first one with it lying on its back whilst Madonna *appears* to straddle its snout dressed as a bunny, are intended to project the topic of bestiality. The book SEX was intended to be an in-your-face exploration of all forms of human sexuality, including those labled as perverse or deviant. Thus we see evidence of threesomes, B&D, and S&M. Each photo shoot was cleverly and remarkably staged as well. Even so, there were other forms of sex I felt Madonna had ignored entirely in her book. Her follow-up video Human Nature amplifies the philosophy in SEX: that these actions are part of "human nature."

I would tend to argue that many of these "subculture explorations" are not perverted at all and have been badly maligned by religious groups attempting to assert the standard of what human sexuality should be all about.

HOWEVER, bestiality is without question one of several things that I would consider to be perverse, deviant and entirely unacceptable.

In any event, the allusions to Madonna riding a beast on my website are not actually about bestiality. They are about the metaphorical ideation at work in the Book of Revelation regarding the Whore of Babylon. The "beast" she rides is a one world culture of hedonism incorporating elements of ritual sex and ritual sacrifice (death), one that is supported by a coalition of old and new religions and by a global political system.

At least, this is the image of the Whore of Babylon (WOB or wob for short) we are introduced to in Revelation. A few pages later, suddenly, the wob has become a powerful political figure who is head of state of a great trading nation. At this point we witness her fiery demise and the nuclear destruction of her country at the hands of the "beast" (also popularly called the Anti-christ, although he is never called this anywhere in Bible prophecy) and the ten kings who serve as his knights.

The question then becomes: are there two wobs? or is the political wob merely a puppet of the cultural/religious wob?

Israell, in all honesty I admire and love Madonna too. I have always been a long time fan of hers. Back when I was a DJ in the 1980s I used to play and promote her music.

But this is a website about prophecy and also about how history repeats itself in future events in variations of the sacred number 7 and its multiples. Two things about Madonna: 1) she does match certain profiles of people prophesied by Nostradamus and the Bible; some of what is prophesied is not very nice unfortunately 2) history warns her life is in danger due to actual past events that have happened to her and also the fates of famous women she has used as role models.

The end result are presentations on my part that appear admittedly quite sensational in nature, but no less so than the subject herself is. If Madonna wants to hang on a cross to somehow demonstrate that it is time we all begin bearing our own crosses or perhaps to criticise the lack of the feminine element in modern Christianity, that is fine with me: however, if in the process of doing so she is unintentionally or in reality setting herself up as a modern personification of the whore of Babylon, she will have to be prepared for the analogies that shall inevitably be made ... and a casual look at certain websites and forums show that this is not something only I have concluded. And, after all, her video Like A Prayer (1989) and Justify My Love, The Beast Within Remix from 1993 pretty much sets up the likelihood that she has been fancying herself in such a role for quite a long time. Strange for an American; not so strange in older countries with older traditions *LOL*.

Now regarding the mind control thing, there are many ways to explain it, but the best way would be to bring to your attention the following remarks that appear on a webpage of mine from 2002, still accessible from the old Madonna and Pamela Anderson Prophecy (Part One) page. They belong to a viewer, J. Polise.

August 16, 1958 Madonna's birthdate. (1 + 6 = 7) She is ruled by 7 in Chaldean numerology. Seven vibrates to the planet Neptune. Neptune rules illusion and dreams- but also addiction and deception. The birth number 16 = the Tower in the Tarot.

Trump 16 contains the image of a Royal couple (King/Queen) falling from a Tower struck by Lightning. The eye of Horus (Illuminati imago) lies behind the Tower. Madonna is a Leo (Queen) , her status in the entertainment field has always been carefully orchestrated and planned by powers much greater than simple blonde ambition. Some have depicted her as an MK-Ultra "mind controlled slave." These people are "programmed" by a variety of techniques. One image used in the control of a Monarch Slave is the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. Interwoven on the Tree is a polarity (good/bad) set of "altars". The altars are related to hidden personality programs which are 'triggered' by internal/external cues leading the MK slave to perform preprogrammed actions. I found it interesting that Madonna had become involved with the Kaballah Learning Center... along with Rosanne and Monica Lewinsky (two others who have been associated with MK Ultra programming). In any case the Eye of Horus of Trump 16 could be associated with the forces ultimately responsible for whatever happens to Madonna. By the way, Monroe was also a "presidental model" MK Slave, but that is another story...

Madonna's lyrics/imago are organized by Illuminati forces. She is probably near the end of her career as an MK Ultra slave. Her music is very revealing if examined in context of the mind contol premise. Look at the highlights of her long career:

With her first hit "Lucky Star" , the program was announced:

" You must be my lucky star/ 'cause you shine on me wherever you are/ I just think of you and I start to glow/ and I need your light, and baby you know."

Here there is a reference to the "royal star" imago of MK Ultra Monarch programming. The altars are placed on the corners of a pentagram or six pointed star which map the relationship between them in a directional fashion. More importantly is the trigger contained in the refrain of this tune.

"STAR LIGHT
The trigger in Lucky Star is:

" STAR LIGHT/STAR BRIGHT /THE STAR I SEE TONIGHT; extended refrain. This is an example of how entertainment is used in the activation of altars for those subject to the fascination of MK Ultra programming. Such simple nursery rhyme like refains can 'trigger' the altars of other programmed slaves when heard on the radio or on a CD or TV. The dissociated personality of someone mind controlled simply hears a tune like "Lucky Star" and in the right situation does the craziest of things, like go on a murder-suicide mission, agree to become an agent of drug trafficking, or whatever the altar's file tells him/her to go out and do. They look like lone agents, but their actions serve those in positions of the highest , hidden orders of international influence. The ultimate motives of the Illuminati are based on a plan for One World Govenment, a single unit of currency, population reduction, with the remaining hoi polloi under the influence of a global , computerized tracking and surveillance system, the reintroduction of pagan worship (of the gods who will be played by humans in the upper echelon of the Illumuminati. Mount Olympus will be somewhere in Colorado.)

Madonna and Michael Jackson came out about three years after the assassination of John Lennon, who was oh-so-on to what the Beatles were used for in the sixties. Listen to his song "Mind Games". The slaves Charles Manson and Mark Chapman were triggered in their actions using Beatles music , ie "Helter Skelter". Each generation therfore has its own entertainers the programmers use as agents , through commercialized pop music and imagos. Madonna is currently "expendable" because she is getting older, unable to influence those who are younger. So now we have Britney Spears, Christina Aguliara, and Justin Timberlake who were all trained at Disney. Disney is a major MK Ultra operative.

By the way Mariah Carey is a slave whose music/lyrics are cues used to trigger Beta sex slave altars. Mariah= Moriah; "Moriah" is another word for Illuminati. Mariah herself was handled by programmers working out of Sony . On her 30th birthday she was "fired" from Sony Music. Her programming went into self destruct mode and she attempted suicide twice. This is what happens to older Monarch slaves. Mariah's song "Butterfly" cues prostitution/sex slave altars most likely. "Spread your wings (legs)/ little butterfly..." LOL. Mariah's case shows how MK slaves are usually programmed in multiples. There are Beta programs (sex slave, protitution), Deltas (suicide mission like those who participate in things like 9-11) , and psychic programs (disinformation agents, channelers, remote viewers) . See the lectures of Dr. Corydon Hammond. The point with Madonna and pop music is that organized religion doesn't work anymore, so since Elvis pop music has been the new opiate of the masses. The song "Ray of Light" is Madonna's via Illuminati's vision of the coming NWO.

Anyway, as for the contracts I mentioned, these are Satanic in nature. True Faustian contracts. In the story, Faust's own contract lasted only 26 years, but contracts (obviously) are renewable or may cover longer periods, otherwise some of the celebs who have signed clearly would not reach a full measure of life.

Madonna's aim was true with her kiss of death: she hoped to escape the fate of the strangled blonde of Quatrain 1.39 by passing it off onto Britney Spears.

Even so, Britney's period of danger now appears to be passing. She had the double disadvantage of being caught in a two-year loop of danger associated with the suicide of a child star last year (similar to what occurred to Dana Plato in 1999) and, this year, the curse of those actresses and models with the name "Jean" contained in them (such as Jean Harlow, Jean Seberg, Dorothy Jean Dandridge, also supermodel Gia (Jee-a) and actress Gia Scala: Britney's full name is Britney Jean Spears). Every so often, the Jean thing is not repeated, but some famous female celeb still winds up dead, usually of suicide or disease at a young age. This year it was Anna Nicole Smith. In 2000 it was Paula Yates. And in 1993 it was Audrey Hepburn. So, the Jean/"Gee" name sound aspect has not occurred again since the death of supermodel Gia in 1986: but it nearly did in March 2007.

This year there was nearly a double tragedy, Anna Nicole in February and Britney Jean Spears in March. The child star influence was strong enough in March to cause a suicide attempt. I warned in February when Spears shaved her head that this had all the marks of ritualistic suicide in preparation and did not expect her to live beyond March 2007. I also hinted that hanging would be the method, which it almost was.

Prospects for her recovery are much better now, despite heavy criticism of her live performances. Her singles have done remarkably well on the top 40, and she may even take the place of Marilyn Monroe in her career if all goes well. However, the troubles with her ex-husband K-Fed and the custody of her children still require a positive resolution.

I would guess that by now you know I am well aware of the Justify My Love/Beat Within remix (I even had the song playing on my Second Home page throughout the month of October when I had my Ascension of Madonna as the Goddess Ishtar article posted (Esther = Ishtar). I also hope you understand from my previous comments above that despite her good motives for the cross behaviour, it could never hope to be interpreted in a different sence than the way it was by many "authorities" ... and I think deep down she knew this, even welcomed it.

Ultimately, however, if you understand my view that Nostradamus has dated the final events of Revelation not to occur until 2242/43, Madonna (and her puppet Hillary Clinton) as the wob can be nothing more than a dress rehearsal for one to come many years from now, an intriguing archetype of what can only be future myth at this time.

Kind regards,

Mike

I read your latest review about Madonna being the 'WOB'

----- Original Message -----
From: A 'Marilyn' fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:28 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi there,

I read your latest review about Madonna being the 'WOB'. I recall watching the 'Drowned World tour' some years ago on TV and when she sang 'Human Nature', she climbed on a 'mechanical bull' to perform the song, could this be significant I wonder? Also, on her 'Confessions' tour, when singing 'Like a Virgin', she sat on a seat, as if riding a horse.

The 'WOB' theory certainly makes for fascinating reading. Isn't it 'ironic' that before Madonna was known to the world, the only other most well-known Madonna was the religious icon. Whereas she was 'pure' and 'holy'(like Princess Diana was), the pop star Madonna can hardly be considered those things (although, she seems to be trying to portray herself as such these days!), but what with coming onto the scene in the eighties dressed not dissimilar to a street-worker whilst wearing a crucifix and the controversial 'Like a Prayer' video and performance on the 'Blond Ambition' tour, the 'Sex' book, swearing at concerts (yet telling her children to put money into a box if they so much as mumur a crass word) and the controversial performance of 'Live to Tell' on the Confessions tour, all in all, it's not hard to see why comparisons can be drawn between the Queen of Pop and the 'WOB' (I believe she was originally going to call the 'Re-Invention' tour the 'WOB' tour, wasn't she!!).

As for Britney Spears, who many thought was going to be the new 'Queen of Pop' one day, she seems so out of control, I suspect she has had her 'moment of glory', although, controversey seems to sell and alledgedly she has a new LP out soon, people will probably get it because she's caused so much controversey lately and want to see what her new material is like. After her heavily-criticised 'gimme more' performance at the VMA's, I think many people aren't expecting her new material to be brilliant. It makes you wonder where all these dramas which Britney has been going through lately are going to lead to.

I guess you have heard of popular female singer 'Amy Winehouse' over here in the UK (I believe she is quite popular now in the US), she is also highly destructive. Recently, there were pictures of her and her husband covered in cuts and blood everywhere. They alledgedly are self-harmers and experiment with drugs and drink a lot. What with Lindsay Lohan as well, it seems there is a high price to pay for being in the spotlight!!

One thing which sets Madonna apart is she has always been very self-disciplined and focused and doesn't drink or experiment with drugs, she seems to have unbelievable willpower. Whereas she has studied Kabbalah intensely and frequently, any attempts to get Britney to study this belief system went out of the window, I believe that is partly why Madonna and Britney's friendship turned frosty isn't it?

I will continue to visit your site, I have to say, it is one of the most interesting websites I have come across.

Best wishes

A 'Marilyn' fan

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Hi Marilyn Fan,

It has been awhile! According to the latest news it really does appear that Diana WAS pregnant when she was killed. I also think that photo of Henri Paul captured just a few seconds before they smashed into the 13th pillar was quite revealing! He looks, and this is scary, like he KNOWS what is going to happen! He strikes me as being like in a trance or a zombie, fulfilling some terrible mission. He is indeed "the unknown man from Marne" (or Maine in other translations, which is where he was born, btw) who "murdered Diana."

In some ways I feel terrible writing about Madonna the way I do. But she really is begging for it though, eh? Only the blindest of fans can fail to see the intentional link she is setting up between herself and the WOB. Too bad the WOB isn't a good thing to be. But, unfortunately, what prophecies say about the WOB is not good, and she should know that. Sometimes, I think she really gets off on my articles (if she reads them) and strives all the harder to fulfill prophecy.

Britters may have bombed at the VMA's, but I can tell you 'Gimme More' is selling BIG over here. The DJ's are really pushing her song and it is climbing the charts. It kind of reminds me of when the Beatles used to put out a new album, and the first tracks released from it would get played on radio. Her act may have sucked, but her music holds some kind of fascination (maybe morbid fascination?). I wonder if she did not set us all up shaving her head, talking in funny voices, pulling the antichrist routine, and acting out that rehab suicide attempt. Brilliant PR to get everyone to buy the crazy nymphomaniac's new CD and begin a new stage in her career. If so, BRAVO! This is better than Madonna's re-inventing herself every two years ... this is dying and comming back from the dead (haha!)

When I first heard Amy Winehouse's 'Rehab' back in June I could not suppress a laugh. It seemed like such a clear commentary on Lindsay Lohan and Britters, an excellent mock-up. But then later I read that Winehouse should be dead she has OD'd so many times and at the highest dosages any rock survivor has ever experienced. Yes, that and self-harm. You know, she should be careful. This year is online with the year that Sid Vicious killed himself and his girlfriend, both of them into self-harming and OD'ing too.

As always, thanks so much for writing and talking a bit. Your support for my site is always greatly appreciated.

Warm wishes,

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: A Marilyn fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:24 AM
Subject: (no subject)

Hi again

Thank you for replying to my recent e-mail (I think I might have accidentally re-sent it to you again, apologies for that!). Re. your comments on Henri Paul, I thought when I saw the pictures of him behind the wheel that he looked like a man possessed to be honest. Someone said to me recently that they don't believe there was any foul-play involved in the accident, they just said Diana and Dodi should of been wearing their seatbelts, which is true I guess, but the fact that Diana alledgedly wrote in her diary that her life was in danger and that ******* was planning a car accident, etc, is a bit ironic. It all seems a very strange business and I can't see any of us ever getting to the bottom of it this rate, like all the Marilyn Monroe conspiracy theories. Incidentally, I recently went to see some of Marilyn's dresses exhibited in a Brighton hotel, as a huge Marilyn fan, I was really pleased to get this opportunity, they even exhibited the famous white dress from the film 'The seven year itch!'.

It doesn't surprise me that Britney's new release is proving popular in the US, what more proof do we need that controversey sells even if the music is mediocre!!

As for Madonna, I guess we'll have to wait and see how things develop, what with a new album on the horizon which inevitably will mean a world tour at some point, it'll be interesting to see if she really does live out this 'WOB' theory.

I daresay I will be in contact again somewhen.

Best wishes

A Marilyn fan!

One Picture of Madonna is Elizabeth Berkley

----- Original Message -----
From: michelle
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:49 AM
Subject: sorry

Hi Mickey,

Hope you are well? I hope you don't think I'm stepping out of place here but there is one tiny thing on your site that has me slightly vexed. The picture you have of a seemingly Madonna licking the dancepole, it's actually Elizabeth Berkley in the film 'Showgirls', sorry can't help seeing it. Mikey could you do me this favour when you get the time? Would you put the letter below on the Madonna e-mail forum on your site. I would be very greatful.

Your friend,
Michelle
Take care Mickey and be good

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Hi Michelle,

I had a funny feeling that photo might not be Madonna. But then I reconsidered: even though I thought I had seen every photo in Madonna's 1993 book Sex, maybe I missed some, or some did not get posted on the Sex site. Also, I have seen so many films over the years, including films with strong sexual content, that I could forget a scene like that, especially when presented as a freeze frame pretending to be a photo. And Liz Berkley looks so much like a younger Madonna in that photo, it had me fooled. Especially since Madonna has done some pole dancing in her stage acts. I mean, the image is not really so over the top for Madonna anyway, is it?

In any event, as you probably do know, the images on my site are used to dramatise predictions, opinions, theories, etc. I have already used a photo of a woman who looks a little like Hillary Clinton being held hostage at knifepoint by a crazed man to dramatise a prediction I made concerning her for March 2009. So, it really does not matter all that much to me, if the photo is of Liz Berkley or Madonna, as long as it dramatises whatever points I am making or contributing to the general atmosphere of the composition as a whole. If something has the appropriate aesthetic, imagistic, or sensual appeal I am looking for, I will most likely use it. And if I cannot find anything like I want ... then I will create it using my artistic skills.

Anyway, as I cannot think of an answer to the enclosed letter you sent about possible WOB messages, I will post it above this one, along with several other Madonna-related emails by others I have either replied to (or not) going back to the start of the year. Maybe someone who reads the letter will have an answer.

I still think it strange Madonna came out with "(I Guess I'll) Die Another Day" the same year (2002) I originally thought she was in danger of an accident or murder. Like it was a reply or a comment. She's been doing that sort of thing ever since then it seems, from time to time. I posted how much I loved her song "Live To Tell" on a page where an astrologer mentioned its relevence to her being an ultra-monarch slave (or something to that effect), and that it was purposely trance-like, etc. So, what song does she sing when she hangs like Jesus on the cross last year? "Live To Tell" of course. I also predicted she would become Kabbalah high priestess and then ... not too long after, Rabbi Berg promoted her to being Kabbalah's chief spokesperson and she began to speak and act like she was Kabbalah's high priestess (even news services began calling her that). She even seemed to make the Modena quatrain come true, a little bit anyway, when she had the horse riding accident (since the horse was a gift her husband and a friend "conspired" to buy her for her birthday while she was singing and talking in an outdoor theatre a month beforehand). The accident also happened smack in August during the doomed blonde vector (August 2004 or August 2005) that killed Marilyn Monroe, Sharon Tate, Princess Diana, and so many others AND the Elvis Presley death vector (August 2005). How much of this accident was actually history replaying itself in a different way resulting in a close call or an manipulation of events by Madonna? Going to Jerusalem and angering a bunch of rabbis, one who put a death curse on her, telling everyone in the world where we are going wrong and are headed for hell if we do not follow her example, then climbing up on the cross like Christ last year ... all against a backdrop of the most erotic and sexual antics she has been involved in since the early 1990s, including her live upstaging of Kylie Minogue's mechanical bull ride (do I ever love Kylie's lingerie ad! But kylie has no false pretensions or delusions about herself like Madonna does), the lezzie kiss of death and bizarre close friendship with Britney, and more. If this is not consistent with someone desiring and aspiring to a WOB-type figure, I do not know what else could be. I mean, I am obviously not anti-sex, far from it, but I am against exploiting religion or faith in God by mixing explicit sex with religion.

As for any other prophecy, the only ones she has not played up yet is the "strangled blonde supreme" who is murdered in her bed or bedroom prediction in Quatrain 1.39; but have to wonder about the quatrain concerning a famous woman who catches fire and sees the light ('the true flame'?) after condemning Christians (for some reason), verbally I suppose, also involving her performing on or with a monstrous bull/ox in Seville, Spain. I suspect this could happen next year when she will probably do another live tour. It could mean Madonna's salvation is at hand and she can escape all peril. You might call it her last chance.

Actually I did not mean to ramble, but I doubt all these things have been a coincidence. I think Madonna (God love her, someone has to) is taking a breather now and probably will for the rest of 2007, but next year ... watch out. It should start getting even more interesting than it already has. Actually I wish I could take Madonna and Hillary off the WOB list, because if either truly is, then the beast and false prophet must also be around. But of course there is always Angelina Jolie (lol) who has just seriously compared herself with Princess Diana (what audacity).

Take care (will try to answer that other email you sent a few weeks ago when I can),

Your friend,

Mikey (not-a-mouse)

wow, this is madonna. this is a big, curious fan!!please dont delete this!

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