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Michelle
Obama Flashing Horns Sign! Madonna's Back to Justify My
Love/Sex/Erotica Persona
* * * * *
Hi Israell,
I didn't know about Michelle Obama .. havn't had a look yet. But
have seen plenty of that shoot with Madonna and Jesus Luz in W
Magazine. I have downloaded four of the images and one of those
so far is on my site (2009 Part One).
I have to agree that she is back to the early 1990s, but to be
more exact, she is back to 1989 (and 1992): do you recall Madonna
in Like A Prayer having mock sex with the black idol/black Jesus
in that Catholic Church in the 1989 MTV music video?? Looks like
she has made Jesus Luz the real thing.
So it is clear: we can expect Madonna to now return to what could
have been the climax of her earlier career: 1989 to 1993. If it
had not been for her dream to play the role of Evita Peron and
Sarah Bernhard intruducing her to Kabbalah, I believe her career
after 1992-93 would have gone quickly downhill, hit rock bottom
for several or more years, and then 1) she would have revived it,
at best, to something like what Cher and Tina Turner ended up
doing until age 60 or 2) her insatiable sexual lusts would have
introduced her into the world of hardcore pornography and she
would have become the most famous porn actress in history or 3)
she might have gone on the road working as a singer and an exotic
dancer like Jayne Mansfield after her career hit the rocks (which
is what she had been doing hours before the fatal car crash) or
else 4) would have went the way of the downward spiral and ended
up like Marilyn Monroe or else a female version of Kurt Cobain or
Michael Hutchence. Had she entered into the porn industry, she
most likely would have ended up in category 4 somewhere down the
line.
Does she have a vision for what she will do beyond this revival
of the climax years of 1989-93? Perhaps and perhaps not. But if
she does, I would suspect that this repeat of 1989-93 will be of
higher quality and much more controversial than the last time
around. After all, she has to maintain a larger than life profile
to remain as the Whore of Babylon.
Take care,
Mike
Lady GaGa to
Replace Madonna? Little Boots to Replace Kylie? Britney
Unlikely Successor, Dishing Out Darkness and Depression in Some
of Her New Songs
----- Original Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:34 AM
Subject: (no subject)
Hi there,
Long time, no speak! - I hope you are well. As you will probably
recall, I have sent you several (if not more) e-mails re. the
likes of Madonna and Britney on and off. I'm just interested to
hear your views on the new big thing, Lady GaGa. It's only
recently she has become known to the British public and has hit
the No. 1 spot in the UK charts with 'Just Dance' and I daresay
has over in the States.
Although Miley Cyrus said she wants to be the new Madonna, by the
time she gets to her twenties, there's a good chance she might of
'burnt out', as a lot of young stars seem to do, then again, she
might prove us wrong. She is popular over here amongst the
under-teens age-group, mainly because of Hannah Montana, however,
above that age-group, there appears to be real no interest in her
music, so whether she becomes 'the new Madonna' remains to be
seen!! - in the meantime, Lady GaGa, appears to have the drive,
energy, desire to be in the spotlight, her own unique style and
her music is catchy and quirky, my view is she could be the new
Madonna. Infact, her road to fame, has similarities to Madonna's
ie) hanging out in New York, with all the artistic crowd and
performing at Burlesque clubs, I believe she's also,
Italian-American as well!!
Already, interest in Madonna seems to be 'waning' over here in
the UK and recent pictures of her doing some fashion campaign,
unfortunately were none too flattering as her age was quite
evident. I'm sure for Madonna, seeing the likes of Lady Gaga,
potentially step into her shoes, must be a bitter pill to
swallow, as Madonna's desire to remain in the spotlight seems
relentless. I understand her last tour (Sticky & Sweet), took
it out of her according to reports, maybe she'll carry on until
she's near enough 60 and then like Tina Turner decide to
'officially' retire.
Over here in the UK, 'Little Boots' - real name, Victoria Hesketh
is being cited as the new Kylie, I've not yet heard any of her
music, but again like Lady GaGa, pictures of her depict her as
quirky and kooky and reports suggest the music industry are very
excited about this new singer.
That aside, it's safe to say, we all had Britney down as the new
Madonna and Madonna has openly been very supportive of Britney,
almost as if she was saying to the world, 'I'm happy to pass
Britney my crown', but Britney's heart just doesn't seem to be in
her latest comeback, she seems heavily-controlled by people
around her, in particular her dad, which I'm sure as an adult,
she must resent to a certain degree. You get the feeling, she's
been 'pushed' too soon into a comeback and the people around her
are exploiting her out of greed, treating her as a 'cash cow',
regardless of her feelings. Her new LP, Circus, is a pretty good
pop record (re. your 'dark pop' theory, I do find certain tracks
on Britney's LP, make me feel slightly agitated/depressed,
despite being on the surface, 'upbeat, catchy' records - I find
this rather strange!) and I understand she is soon going on tour,
but I think, a lot of people aren't truly convinced that she
really wants to step into Madonna's shoes anymore, in which case,
Lady GaGa might in time, be the one, out of the two of them, who
gets to wear Madonna's crown!!
Best wishes
A
'Marilyn' fan!
ps) re. 'dark pop' - as mentioned above, some of the tracks on
Britney's new album despite being catchy, do seem to have a 'dark
feel' about them and subsequently, I have felt my mood drop after
listening to them, which seems strange as this is essentially pop
music not dark, heavy metal music!! Maybe my mood dropping after
listening to certain pop records, is nothing to do with the
music, but it does make you wonder, afterall music is a very
powerful medium, but it also, makes you question the integrity of
the music industry, is seemingly 'harmless pop music' a disguise
for something more sinister?? - goodness knows!! - I have heard
of subliminal messages in music, a form of mind control, I
understand a lot of those youngsters who committed suicide in
Bridgend, Wales, were heavily into their music - it sounds
far-fetched, but maybe, the music, was responsible in some way
for their early deaths!! - I have considered avoiding listening
to music which makes me feel like this, the trouble is, it's the
type of music I enjoy!
* * * * *
Hi Marilyn Fan!
I am indeed aware of Lady Gaga: she has been at the top of the
charts in Toronto now for over three weeks with her other hit
'Pokerface.' I am quite impressed with her music, as I was when
Madonna broke on the scene back in 1983 and 1984. However, to
look at her on the videos, she is a bit retro in her appearance,
especially with a lot of face powder and no lipstick whatsoever.
That will attract a certain subgroup of men (and women I
daresay), but she needs to expand her visual appeal a bit more, I
think.
I don't know if she has what it takes to be the next Madonna, all
the same. She has already said she has no desire to be the next
Madonna, and I can understand why. Madonna had to really work her
arse off to get where she is today ... and for 30 years! Few
people have that kind of stamina. Sadly, I think, like the
Beatles or Mozart, Madonna is a once-in-two-centuries phenomenon,
like a rare comet.
Consider: in the last 55 years there has only been one Elvis (one
solo male rock singer) and none since has risen above him.
Michael Jackson came close, then allowed his career to
disintegrate as he became increasingly more freakish. Freddie
Mercury came close, but died too soon. In the last 55 years there
has only been one Beatles (an all-male rock group) and none have
risen above them yet either. In the last century there has been
only one Marilyn Monroe (one very sexy actress) and none has
risen above her yet, including Madonna. Likewise, in the last 55
years there has only been one Madonna (one solo female pop rock
singer) and none has risen above her (and none likely will for a
very long time).
It takes more than talent and charm (physical and otherwise): it
requires endurance, a prolific output of quality material, and
being in the right time in history (luck) ... not to mention the
right connections.
As for Britney: she never had a chance to rival Madonna, nor will
she ever. Madonna, for one thing, is a genious, with an IQ of 145
(mine is 139, so she is much smarter than I, *LOL*). Poor
Britters has only an IQ of 105. She can't conceptualise anything
novel or unique. She is incapable of multi-tasking like Madonna
(who not only sings, writes her own music, but also dances and
performs gymnastics, and also has complete control over the
appearance of the stage sets, lighting, and directs much of the
choreography (of course she acts too, but the less said about
that, the better *LOL*). Britney, like Elvis, created a look for
herself when she broke on the scene ... but her style and look is
growing stale. She is indeed burned-out, in fact, she is in a
slow-burn, and it began in 2005. We saw how bad her downward
spiral can get from early 2007 to early 2008, and I doubt that is
the last time we will see such self-destructive behaviour. Her
"comeback" is lukewarm at best and will not last beyond
2009.
If we are truly entering a great depression, and it lasts a long
time, times are definitely going to change ... and so will the
music. Thus, it is hard to know whether the new environment will
allow someone like Miley Cyrus to shape her sound and image to
the times as she grows into adulthood. She could flourish or
perish, it is hard to say. But Britters will not likely adapt.
Many in the music and film world will not adapt, I fear.
Madonna says she will resume her tour this summer, so I guess she
only took a much-deserved break from the physical demands touring
last year placed on her. Yes, I can see no reason why she could
not continue with her singing, song writing, and music producing
career. She could carry on as did Tina Turner until age 60, but
she must allow nature to take its course now and stop trying to
have the ody of a 20 year old. She isn't succeeding anyway, as
many good photographs are revealing.
That isn't to say everyone should hang it up at age 50 and turn
their back on youth. It is truly all in the genes. Some people
simply age very slowly ... very slowly. I saw Stevie Nicks being
interviewed in a video a few years ago when she was 57 or 58 and
could not believe how young she still looked. The year might as
well have still been 1977. And she is just not the type, like
Suzanne Somers, Goldie Hawn, etc, to go for botox or artificial
cosmetics ... she never was. What I saw in the vid was truly what
there was. How she has fared in the few years since, I do not
know.
Madonna would like to believe she has this genetic gift, but she
obviously does not. Then again she is fighting her body's natural
development by working out so strenously. By doing this she is
losing important fat cells in the face, arms, and other parts of
the body that make one look youthful and attractive in the first
place. She needs to fill out a bit.
Regarding that "dark pop" prediction. Originally I was
going to say that there might be a return to the late sixties
sound in rock as it was around late 1966 and 1967. But I also had
reason to think of a darker sound permeating the airwaves. It
looks like I may have been right on both counts. I recently have
listened to the new single by U2 called 'Get On Your Boots' from
the CD No Line on the Horizon. It is quite popular here. I could
not believe what I was hearing: this song sounds like it was
literally grabbed right out of 1967 or 1968 via a time machine
... or a psychedelic hit that never made it and has been
re-released. There were a number of bands that had this sound,
but one that comes immediately to mind is the group Nazz and some
of the material featured on its first album released in 1968
(Todd Rudgren's original band). There is another song I have just
heard besides the one by U2, but do not know the artist. It too
has that late 60s hard psychedelic rock sound ala Electric Prunes
or Music Machine.
Well, I fully support the changes in pop music as it is right
now. It is a pretty good mix, including the rap and hip hop, and
has been improving by leaps and bounds since the summer of 2007.
I'd like to hear more ambitious work from Timbaland though. The
music and singing in 'Scream' really blew me away when I first
heard it on the radio (not the video so much, however, although
it has its moments) and I think he could do more stuff along this
vein.
Thanks so much for writing.
Kind regards,
Mike
"Highly
elevated blonde"
----- Original Message -----
From: Kristian
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:10 PM
Subject: "Highly elevated blonde"
Could the prophecies be talking about Anna Nicole Smith instead
of Madonna? Some believe she died "by the hands of
another" ...giving her drugs. Just a thought.:)
* * * * *
Hello Kristian,
Like Marilyn Monroe and a few others before her, Anna Nicole
certainly qualifies as an excellent archetype for the ultimate
"elevated blonde" to come. Of course
she was not strangled.
Nostradamus usually did not write about such people unless they
had more than mere fame going for them. The translations in the
first part of line 2 can be translated as "for too great an
involvement," "for having tarried (waited) too
long," "for having gone too far," etc. What is
more "the supreme (highest) one" in line 1 can also be
"the last one" which may mean literally
"last" or "last" as in "ultimate."
We could even say the "the supreme one is strangled for
having been involved too long with the elevated blonde" ...
we could if not for the commas breaking up the events in such an
awkward fashion that we are left with "the supreme one"
instead being compared to the "elevated blonde."
The packet of letters or "dear diary" type situation
where it is taken and destroyed really suggests that the victim
is a woman. Of course an empire has yet to be created for it to
be conquered by three nations or taken over by three people: this
could be an Arab empire or an empire created from the EU, or some
configuration that will also involve the United States. That
means this event will occur during wartime. So this has not yet
happened.
Still, we could get very loose with the interpretation of line 3
when applying the quatrain to an archetype like Marilyn Monroe.
She was going to go public with information Bobby Kennedy and
others much more highly placed did not want the world to know. It
has been said that actor Peter Lawford went into her room after
she had been killed, found and destroyed a diary she kept.
Had Nostradamus not insisted on strangulation being the cause of
death, I would have considered this quatrain fulfilled with the
death of Marilyn Monroe. Still, the elusive "empire"
being overcome "by three" did not apply at the time of
her death. Unless we really stretch things a lot and make the
"empire" an "American empire" suddenly under
the control of "the three" Kennedy brothers during the
1960s.
This quatrain makes much more sense in our near future however.
Females from non-stardom backgrounds, as well as female
celebrities, are becoming extremely political, reaching the cusp
of the wave where in the US they now run for the highest office
in the land and are made celebrities for doing so. Madonna,
meantime, is attempting to impose both her political will and her
religious views upon as many people as she can programme. I would
still suspect her as being the ultimate "elevated
blonde" or anyone who seeks to emulate her in the years to
come, such as Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Miley Cyrus, etc.
Mike
Madonna
----- Original
Message -----
From: Talia
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:59 PM
Subject: Madonna
Hey there, how's everything going? I see you've been updating the
pages for world events. Though it may be trivial in compare, I
wonder if the Madonna prophecy might be in need of another
update? Not only is an Anna Nicole reference probably in order,
but Madge herself is reportedly more obsessed with Kaballah than
ever, and is now getting a divorce -- reportedly because she was
more interested in Kaballah and her career than in her marriage.
She won't drink anything but Kaballah Water and was even
intending to have a swimming pool filled with it.
I wonder if she might not choke on that stuff, at this rate.
As for the old quatrain:
En
cité grande un moyne et artisan
Pres de la porte logez et aux murailles
Contre Modene secret, cave disant
Trahis pour faire sous couleur d'espousailles.
I wonder if the artisan ("craftsman" might be the best
translation for the word in its context) might just be Guy, as
he's definitely an artist, and the more rustic connotation of the
word also feels applicable given the papers report his fondness
for pubs and other "manly" kind of pursuits. Might also
work with the marriage reference.
Also, have you seen that pub he owns, The Punch Bowl? That looks
more like a cave or theater than a lot of things.
Maybe "up" the potential danger rate? (Assuming the
quatrain predicts anything more than that said craftsman is up to
just gossipy conversation with a monk or a -- depending how you'd
translate it -- tit, titmouse or chickadee.)
~~TF
* * * * *
Hi Talia,
It has been a long time. How are you?
Which page are you referring to? If you mean The Madonna Prophecy
(Part One) and The Madonna (Prophecy Part Two) ... those are
history and merely archived pages now, applicable to the
situation as it was in 2002 and 2003. We know that aside from a
few stalking scares, Madonna's biggest problem was a cut thumb
during the shooting of the James Bond film and fainting onstage
twice during her 2003 tour. Pamela Anderson ended up getting the
real bad luck of 2002 with a diagnosis of hepatitis c ... and it
was a once famous porn star, Linda Lovelace, and also pop singer
Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes who ended up fulfilling the Jayne
Mansfield scenario, dying in seperate car crashes a day apart.
Nevertheless, I did link the Madonna Prophecy pages to a 2004
page, also know archived, that followed Madonna's career from
2004 through 2005 in the event she was to end up the next Marilyn
Monroe or Princess Di. That was closer. She pissed off some
rabbis and also got death threats from Islamic terrorists. A car
bomb exploded outside of her New York City hotel room, but no one
was in it. On her birthday, August 16, 2005, she was thrown from
a horse, breaking a number of bones ... coming very close to
breaking her neck. In a very loose sense, the quatrain you cited
almost applied, but not quite. I give pros and cons. But there is
no question I was more right about the danger to her in 2004-05
rther than in 2002-03.
On September 1, 2003, I voice my conclusions on my public forum
(Prophetic Messenger Service) that Madonna may actually be the
personification of the Whore of Babylon of Revelation 17. Every
so often over the next few years I play with the idea more and
more on the forum and on my web site. Finally, on March 3, 2006,
I post my findings concerning Madonna as the wob17 on the 2009
Part One page ( a duplicate of this also appears on 2009 Part
Five) and also in even greater detail on Personalities From the
Book of Revelation page. Later that year Madonna climbed on a
cross during her tour, had more death threats hurled at her, and
thus essentially vindicated my position concerning her real
identity, not failing to wear the prominent colours of the whore
of Babylon: scarlet, purple, and pink. And of course the cross
was gold, the colour associated with Satan.
Since then her behaviour and her messages have grown increasingly
bizarre; she has gone for a much darker image, and is clearly not
only the wob but the "mother of harlots" as well (Rev
17) as she nurtures a stable of potential successors like Britney
Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and Miley Cyrus, not to
mention attracting a rival or partner (depending on your point of
view) and potential successor in the form of Kylie Minogue. As I
write in my Personalities from the Book of Revelation, Madonna
seems to be moving towards ascending to a much greater role as
the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, preparing the world for
Marduk/Molech as Planet X approaches, and her reign of
self-indulgence, hedonism, complete exploitation of every
imaginable sexual desire or lust, however dark, and ultimately a
return to the practise of human sacrifice. Meantime, she also
prepares her stable of pop tarts to service all her male (and
female) devotees as they vie for the position of wob17.
This is where we stand today, as she sings the Devil Wouldn't
Recognise You in the ceremonial black robe and hood of Satanic
ritual murder as white liquid fire cascades around her, a closeup
revealing what appears to be smeared blood on her mouth and chin.
Creatures from other dimensions dance on stage with her along
with men dressed as Satanic monks ...
As you can see, Madonna's potential for dying young has been
superceded by other interests of mine (*LOL*). But on that note I
will say she has emulated virtually every famous female celebrity
from the past at one time or another and, as a result, she will
always be in danger of death. There is not a year that goes by
where there is not some vector that could pose a danger to her.
However, I still insist the strongest vectors lie on two
timelines: one that arrives next in May/June 2009 and the one
following that which arrives in August 2011.
Speaking of Guy, Madonna has already programmed her fans to KILL
for her. Witness the 16-year-old who broke into a movie set and
attack Guy with a knife and had to be stopped by two bodyguards
and four security guards. If Guy is the artisan he better act
fast ... or he may end up dead.
Will try to update the Madonna material on 2009 (Part One) and
its duplicate on 2009 (Part Four) and Personalities from the Book
of Revelation when I can. Yes, you are right Talia ... Anna
Nicole and her untimely death was big enough to be recognised as
a tragic fulfillment of the Jayne Mansfield scenario ... I
indicated she might die in June 2009 after her son died in 2006,
but she left this world a good two years earlier than I suspected
she might.
Kind regards,
Mike
Occult
Doings At Madonna Concert
From: A Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 PM
Hi there,
I hope you are well, it's been a while since I've sent an e-mail
to the Madonna e-mail forum, but I recently went to Madonna's
'Sticky & Sweet' concert in London and as with all her
concerts, it was spectacular. However, she did seem to toy with
the occult at times, ie) after performing 'The Devil wouldn't
recognise you', she performed 'Spanish Lessons' with dancers
dressed in black cloaks, which seemed slightly dark, also, when
performing '4 mins', there was a male dancer standing near her,
with a black hood on, which made him look like, something of an
executioner! - also, re. the short video interludes, one to 'Die
another day', where she depicts herself as a boxer, towards the
end of the video, she starts singing in a frenzied manner, 'Die,
Day. Die, Day', ending with an image of blood trickling down the
screen. Also, the short video, 'Get Stupid', focusing on
social/political issues, was rather 'controversial' and prior
singing 'Hung up', she shouted 'the Queen will topple the King on
the 29th' - ??! - I'm pretty sure that's what she said and my
partner thought she said this too. Neither of us could work out
what she meant by that remark though?!!
But it's at her concerts, you really get a sense of how powerful
she is, thousands of people, completely in awe of this woman,
quite frankly, since she takes such an interest in
politics/social issues nowadays, I'm surprised she hasn't
considered running for president, after all, as she gets older,
there's bound to come a point when she will want to slow down a
bit, (although her energy seems to know no bounds for the
moment!), but her power and influence on the masses is so great,
running for president, might not seem so laughable, however, if
she was to have seriously considered that, she probably would of
hinted at it by now, maybe she'd rather concentrate on becoming
an alternative religious figure (ie) Kabbalah rather than a
political figure. In fact, I saw a concert-goer wearing a
t-shirt, with 'Madonna for God' printed on it - that says it
all!!
As for the short video footage of Britney, despite, seeming like
she is better now, I just get the feeling she's lost her spark,
of course if she on anti-psychotic meds. there's a good chance
they make her a bit zombified, I'd like to think she is genuinely
better now, but as said, she seems to have lost her spark, which
makes you wonder if she is really as ok as she is trying to make
out.
Anyway, best wishes,
A
Marilyn fan
* * * * *
Hi Marilyn fan,
It is good to hear from you again. Thanks for sharing this too,
because it supports my view that Madonna is attempting to expose
her fans and the pop world to the darker elements of the
universe, in particular a realm I have read about on some witch's
and wiccan's websites, along with those authoring sites who
practise astral projection, about a place that they call 'the
darkside.'
I believe the men dressed in black, in some cases actually in
monk-like garb with hoods and cloaks, are supposed to be
Satanists, and that when two of them grab Madonna, one on each
hand, they are symbolically preparing her for something like a
human sacrifice. After all, she is similarly attired on the piano
when she sings 'The Devil Wouldn't Recogise You' ... I think that
says it all. The executioner figure, I suspect, is exactly that
... but not for Madonna. If there are 4 minutes to save the
world, and there is a symbolic executioner near, I have a feeling
he is waiting ... to destroy humanity. After all, the song is
directed at the listener and video viewer, so it is intended FOR
the audience. We are the ones who have 4 minutes or else ...
what? That is what I have not yet figured out. Who is this
executioner supposed to be?
Madonna's blood lust is showing in her 'Die Another Day' video if
what you say is true. She has it in for Christians I think.
Dedicating 'Like A Virgin' to the Pope was just the beginning ...
soon she will be performing mock executions of Christians I
suspect.
I have to tell you, I don't have a clue what she is talking
about, but that strange remark she has made about the 'Queen'
toppling the 'King' on a specific date, September 29, 2008, is a
bit frightening. It sounds like a threat ... a threat to someone
very real.
I suspect by the year's end Madonna shall be an alternative
religious figure ... and many fans do indeed regard her as a
human goddess. If you have read my article about Madonna
ascending to goddess-hood I have already compared her to the
ancient Babylonian whore goddess Ishtar. As the 'Mother of
Harlots' she has a stable of young girls she is grooming as
standins for her and for her successor: all those pop tarts like
Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Miley Cyrus, Fergie,
Jessica Simpson, on and on ... all waiting in the wings to be the
next whore of babylon!
I think, though, she has made up her mind to sacrifice Britters.
I agree she does not look like she is really 'back' ... I don't
think she ever will be back. Britters is a zombie now, just
waiting for the command to self-destruct. Madonna's kiss IS the
kiss of death.
But anyway.. hey, best wishes to you too Marilyn. Glad you shared
this 'inside view' of a Madonna concert with me. It actually
sounds a bit distressing and I am not sure I would really want to
be there. I can only say it this way: Madonna now looks and
sounds EVIL to me .. her eyes are especially evil and hypnotic
... and I do not think I would really want to witness her
wielding the evil power she has over her millions of fans
firsthand.
Thanks again and take care,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: A
Marilyn fan.
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Thank you very much for replying to my views on Madonna's 'Sticky
& Sweet' concert. Like yourself, I get the underlying feeling
Madonna's performances often have 'hidden meanings', that there
is more to them than meets the eye. I did once read on a website
about the 'illuminati' and the reptilian connection and how they
can shape-shift, but one of the giveaways, is that 'hypnotic,
direct' stare which many top celebrities/politicians do, also,
Madonna raised her hand up in the air at one point at the concert
and did the 'devil's salute' as I have read it is called.
One thing I also noticed, like at the 'Confessions' concert when
she performed 'Live to Tell' on a crucifix, there was a strange
feeling fell upon the venue, something rather dark and likewise,
when she performed 'The Devil wouldn't recognise you' and also,
when the video interlude 'Get Stupid' came on, showing images of
disharmony in the world and images of dictators, etc, I felt it a
bit then. I think because I am aware of the possiblity that
Madonna is the 'WOB' or as good as, I notice these things more.
As for that random remark, about the 'Queen toppling the King on
the 29th'!! - I have tried to work out what it could mean, is she
referring to herself as the 'Queen (ie) of pop'?? - who knows!!
Thank you again for responding, I always find your comments
interesting. I understand she soon performs in 'Seville'', (ie:
the predictions of a fire incident in Seville when she performs
there), however, Madonna has had several brushes with death ie)
falling off a horse, death threats in Russia, a car trying to
chase her car off the road, but she does seem 'invincible', as
you once said, maybe she is being 'protected' by some unseen
force, which might not necessarily be of God.
Well, best wishes, until next time,
A
Marilyn fan.
Madonna is
in serious danger
----- Original Message
-----
From: michelle
To: Mike
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Madonna is in serious danger(letter for madonna e-mail
forum)
I have been waiting for this to happen, Madonna looking gaunt and
ill. The pressure of all that is biting her ass now, has been
building up to a pinnacle over the past couple of years. She is
in a lot of danger, more than she cares to admit to herself or
lets on to her family. There are forces at work here even she
cannot pay off, and dare I say it the S**t IS hitting the fan for
her.
Madonna has been careful up till now, watching every move she
played with absolute authority, but something is obviously going
wrong. She has never managed to reach her ultimate goal, the one
thing that has always eluded her and she is getting desperate,
she knows time is not on her side and now this fact is making her
push to a point that may kill her.
For Madonna this is a last ditch attempt, it is all or nothing
and the reason why this tour is so important for her to play out
this year. This tour should have actually been next year and
unless she calls it off or splits it into a two year drag out,
she is putting her life on the line.
Her goal now is too important for her and she must achieve it
whatever the cost.
But Madonna's role has become more than she herself bargained
for, there are those who would wish her death and those of you
would wish her harm, but they do not understand or see why it is
so important she plays out the role she does.
I will stress there is more going on here than most people see. Madonna's 7-888-2-confess
splattered over her t-shirt as she appears thin and ill-looking is not a joke, nor is it a trick that is easily
fallen into.
Usually I would have not said a word, kept out of it, but things
are getting bad on several levels. If she is to get through this
time unscathed she needs to be addressing the issues she has
about control. Not everyone is a puppet! And acting in a more
responsible manner with her actions.
I would also advise that she learns patience. Rushing head first
at this time is not a good idea and to also think very carefully
what she does next. She has the opportunity now to realistically
reach her goal, but FIRST she must prove she is worthy. Something
she has always failed at so miserably in the past (working your
ass off to get nowhere*LOL* I know all too well about that).
There is ONE thought Madonna should learn to use right now.
Prove that you are capable of your goal and it will gladly be
given to you.
Michelle
What's
Next For Madonna, Who Can Take Her Place?
----- Original Message -----
From: A
Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: (no subject)
Hi there
I hope you are feeling better now. I must say I was totally
perplexed by the recent e-mails from Joseph D re. the 'Beauty and
the Beast' theory!! - that aside, I have to agree with Michelle,
it seems Madonna will never be satisfied, it's as if she needs
constant validation that she is worthy, which suggests despite
all her success, a deep emptiness within, maybe this is all tied
up with losing her mother when she was young, having heard her
touch on this 'sensitve' subject in interviews, she morealess
said, 'it changed her', which is understandable I guess.
I imagine Madonna, all too aware, that she is starting to 'get
on' a bit as far as being a female entertainer is concerned in an
'ageist' industry, is in a 'race against time', (like her song '4
mins', a sense of urgency!), to keep going and remain the best in
the game, until she really gets too old to strut her stuff in
front of thousands of people in arenas/stadiums, wearing leotards
and being controversial, but in saying that, she is probably
fitter than the average 20 something and looks better in a
leotard too for that matter!!
Although, there are a handful of female contenders out there to
take her place as 'Queen of Pop', none of them seem to have the
discipline and steely ambition as Madonna. Britney was the
obvious contender for some time, but she seems like a 'zombie'
these days, controlled heavily by her father, etc, she seems to
have lost her 'spark'. Kylie herself is getting on a bit herself
and although her image these days and videos/ and concert
performances, etc are definitely revealing a 'darker' Kylie, she
hasn't cracked the US, which of course is a hugely influential
market and she doesn't seem particularly bothered about doing so
and despite dabbling with a 'darker' image, one can't help get
the feeling that Kylie is essentially a 'nice' girl. I am not
overly familiar with Miley Cyrus, who I understand is very
popular in the states but I am aware she has courted controversey
several times, posing in provacative pictures at still a young
age, I wonder if she is being groomed to ultimately step into
Madonna's dancing shoes!!
Xtina Aguilera was at one point a potential contender too but she
seems to have lost her popularity somewhat, we certainly don't
hear much about her over here in the UK anymore and then there's
Beyonce and Rhianna whose popularity is at all-time high. I would
say Mariah but she is also 'getting on' a bit, although I
understand she remains hugely popular in the states and then
there's Amy Winehouse, arguably talented, but she really seems to
have lost the plot and there's X-factor winner Leona Lewis, who I
understand is proving popular in the states, but she seems too
'nice' to ever be the new Madonna and her music is more
high-powered ballads, there's also Natasha Bedingfield, a UK
export who now resides in the states, so she can build her
fan-base over there and I understand she has succeeded very well,
but like Leona, she seems too 'nice' At some point Madonna is
going to have to 'step down' but if she persistently strives to
remain in the limelight at all costs, I guess one can see how
this could put strain on her marriage.
I read that the 'divorce' is to be officially announced after her
tour has finished and that she is hiring the same solicitor Paul
McCartney used recently, I have also heard there were no pre-nups
made so potentially that divorce could get nasty!!
It will be interesting to see what she's got up her sleeve for
the 'Sticky & Sweet' World tour, something controversial
without a doubt, after the 'crucifix' scene on the 'Confessions'
tour, what can she do to shock us even more!! - I guess we'll
have to wait and see!! - I still think she is the most
influential female artist today, despite her age, so I would have
to agree with you, she is the one out of them all, most likely to
be the WOB.
I have wondered actually if she is aware of this site and has
read any of your WOB theories, maybe that's what inspired her to
nearly call her 'Re-Invention' tour the 'Whore of Babylon' world
tour!!
Best wishes
A
Marilyn fan
* * * * *
Hi Marilyn Fan!
Yes, my health seems better now. But I still have sleep apnea and
narcolepsy to contend with which does impair some of my days and
keep me from being active. The narcolepsy caused me to have a car
accident back on March 5. I fell sleep at the wheel. It was only
for a few seconds, but that was long enough for me to wake up as
the car smashed into and drove through a deer crossing sign on
the left side of the road, causing the windshield to shatter
completely and making it impossible for me to see, then smashed
through a guardrail, and ended up careening down into a culvert
filled with water up to my neck. The whole thing seemed like a
very bad dream. Fortunately I was not harmed (but the car was
totalled).
Anyway, I am doing what I can to resolve both problems at this
time (the apnea and narcolepsy), and am more careful about when
and where I drive, but I have to admit it will probably be
another month or two before I am receiving the proper treatment.
I hope there will not be any more health troubles (only last
Friday I went to hospital thinking I had a heart attack and it
turned out to be a pulled muscle). I have really had my plate
full for the last several years, and none of the medical problems
were even related ... just one unrelated thing after another
unrelated thing, all real, none imaginary! And I was rather young
when this run of bad luck with my health began in 2003 (only 49
when it all started, now I am 54, but still look 38). This is the
sort of thing one would expect with a man 20 years older than
myself.
Regarding Beauty & the Beast: At first my reaction to Joseph
D's email was that he was some kind of nutter, either that or
else there was a famous married couple in entertainment history I
had overlooked, the wife somehow possessing all the required
characteristics of the "whore of Babylon." In
actuality, after receiving about a dozen or so articles from
Joseph, each one copyrighted and mass emailed to different other
personalities with websites, including a musician who played many
years with the late Frank Zappa, I came to realise his is a
satirical view of pop culture from the 1950s to present day and
society's ability to find a personification of almost any
religious or prophetic icon found in sacred writings, in this
case the Bible and the Book of Revelations.
Using three members of his own family as examples, who apparently
were used as models for famous children's toy dolls (popular toys
at the time), he creates a grossly satirical story-telling
technique to connect these family members to critical world
events occurring at the debut of their doll's release to
consumers. Also, again in a satirical vein, he associates his
mother, who was a little known showgirl, with certain female
icons of the 1940s and 1950s, by word and name associations, as
wll as coincidental events occurring in his mother's life and the
lives of the icons which he claims were patterned after hers
(thus his mother, the little known showgirl, becomes a
"phantom" version of Marilyn Monroe for example, which
is to say a kind of behind-the-scenes psychic inspiration for the
real actress). It is wild satirical fiction to say the least, but
then again so was Woody Allen's film Zelig.
I have not decided what to do with these many installments he
sent out. Although they make interesting reading, they would take
up a lot of room on the website to post all at once, unless I
release one at a time on the regular Email Forum, llowing each
one to circulate to another page before putting up the next one.
Don't really know yet.
There certainly does seem to be a sense of urgency about Madonna
these days, doesn't there ... in her songs and in her behaviour.
The question is whether she is racing against something or racing
towards something .. it is so hard to tell why she is in such a
hurry! Yes, there are few replacements for the "whore of
Babylon" image I have to agree: Britters is definitely OVER,
Christina Aguilera has been overlooked and will likely continue
to be, and Miley is just too young, although one day she might
make an excellent little wob.
However, I would not underestimate Kylue Minogue, despite her
inability to be a major attraction on US and Canadian television.
The music-buying public is not merely Top 40 oriented and her
album "X" did sell well even if her singles did not.
What is important anyway for a potential successor of Madonna
(and possible second "whore of Babylon") is that she
appeal to the European audience. America will usually come around
in time.
Even though she is 40, Kylie is still young. 40 is NOT old
anymore these days. Even 50 isn't really. She was even voted the
sexiest woman in the world earlier this year.
In all honesty, I must say this: despite all of the behaviour and
various images Madonna has subjected us to over the many years,
Kylie Minogue has 'the look' -- a natural appearance -- that
seems in keeping with a facial profile of the Whore of Babylon.
My entire genetic memory is screaming out to me that she has what
it takes. She is a beautiful woman, without question, indeed even
an incredibly cute woman, yet she has aspects about her that can
only be called 'sexually over the top' or 'overly erotic' if such
a thing is possible. She has the leer and the eyebrows one would
associate with great wickedness and lust. And the dark side of
her nature she is now sharing with us is also very seductive
indeed ... and is more than equal to Madonna's brand. Yes, I
definitely like the 'darker Kylie.'
This has led me to conclude that Kylie was contesting the dubious
honour of being the wob with Madonna by timing her single
releases of '2 Hearts' and 'All I see Is You' in Europe and her
album release of 'X' in America to coincide with Madonna's own
single release of '4 Minutes to Save the World' and album release
of 'Hard Candy.' Soon Madonna's tour will begin and be in tandem
with Kylie's current tour. There is also no question (as you have
also mentioned) that the sets of many of her recent videos, along
with the costumes and makeup, have been very 'dark' in nature
(including her role in a Dr. Who episode where she is burned
alive, also an interesting note here that Dr. Who has two
hearts).
What saddens me about this is that Kylie Minogue, seething
sexuality as much as she does, is in some ways the same kind of
'innocent' that Marilyn Monroe was. She seems to be manuevering
her way towards being the wob by accident or coincidence and not
at all by any wise calculation on her part, whereas Madonna has
seemingly been planning and calculating the position she has
attained since the very beginning of her career. The thought now
occurs to me that someone may be guiding Kylie in her career at
this point without her knowledge of what she is getting into nor
what the consequences may be should she become the real, endtimes
"whore of Babylon" (whereas it appears Madonna has
merely set the precedent for the wob). Then again, now that
Madonna is divorcing Guy Ritchie, perhaps she intends to play the
"whore of Babylon" role to the very hilt !
The consequences could be very dangerous for Kylie, in any event,
should she ambitiously continue to seek the wob title, especially
during her current world tour (she already has fallen on stage
once). But that largely depends on the nature of the continuing
'surprises' she has in store for her fans that she has mentioned
on her own website.
Meantime I suppose it could still be a brainless Britney (as
unlikely as that may seem) or a posturing Paris who are the ones
being groomed for wob-hood. Paris Hilton, in fact, may have what
it takes after all. And the Disney factory, run by the
Illuminati, continues to pump out new potential little wobs like
Miley Cyrus.
One other candidate, however, comes to mind that also seems
obvious to me: have you ever considered the pop singer Fergie?
She was so hypersexual when she played live at NYC on New Year's
Eve, I thought she was going to explode!
Yes, it would not surprise me if Madonna has gotten ideas from my
site for her projects. But understand that she was playing with
the wob image way back in the early 1990s. Her release of the
'Justify My Love: The Beast Within' remix in 1993 was the actual
declaration of who she thought she was and is: the "whore of
Babylon"! But something was lacking amid all the sexuality,
edgeplay sex (sex with risk of injury or death), and
anti-Christian views ... all three of which she was expressing in
songs, films, videos (like Bad Girl), and a photo book (Sex).
What was missing was her own religion. To be the wob, she would
have to latch onto a "mystery" religion and she finally
found it when she joined Kabbalah. Had she did this back in 1989
or 1990, before she began expressing her dark side in 1991-94,
she would actually be the undisputed WOB today and for the last
15 or 16 years ... no one would be questioning it.
Thanks for writing again.
Warm regards,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan!!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Thank you for responding to my e-mail, I didn't feel my e-mail
was particularly 'enlightening' in any way, but as I find this
'WOB' theory rather intriguing, I thought I'd send an e-mail
about it as it's been some time now since I last e-mailed you,
but I am glad to hear you are better now, health problems are a
worry aren't they, sometimes you feel someone up there really
doesn't like you!! - I certainly can relate to that ... (edited)
When you are suffering from personal stress and then watch the TV
and see that yet another youngster has been shot or stabbed by
another teenager, it can make you quite depressed about pretty
much everything. The UK is definitely becoming a more violent
place. Society just seems to have broken down now to such a
degree, I have read that society breaking-down is a sign we are
nearing to the 'end of times, we just don't seem to 'respect'
each other anymore, marriages&lives seem 'disposable', like
rubbish!!
Obviously, I am aware that 'Fergie' was a member of the
'Black-eyed peas', but since going solo, with the exception of
the hit, 'glamorous', she hasn't really made her 'mark' over here
in the UK yet, but I guess there's still time, she certainly
seems very 'feisty' and has a lot of energy. That aside, I am
very interested to see what Madonna will get up to on her next
tour, she's bound to do something 'controversial', I would love
to go and see a show, but unfortunately, tickets to her shows
these days seem to be 'sky-high', I just hope the concert is
released on DVD!!
Despite Nostradamuses quantrains about a famous female coming to
a tragic end, ( and I know Madonna has been considered re. one or
two of them!!), she still seems to have avoided tragedy. I know a
couple of years ago, she was playing with the image of 'Thelma
Todd' but despite being on her 'timeline' she also avoided an
unfortunate ending like the above mentioned. If not Madonna,
maybe it will be another female icon (Kylie, Britney??) who will
come to a tragic end, a lot of these female icons like to 'play
with fire', maybe one day, one of them will get burned!!
I must say I do think Britney is being 'controlled' heavily these
days, she looks sad in pictures, as if she's been 'brainwashed',
it's a shame what's happened to her, I hear her so-called mother
is releasing a book all about Britney and revealing things about
her which I think is rather insensitive, some things should be
kept private, but I get a sense Britney's mum is a real showbiz
mum (no wonder Britney has fallen out with her before!!), like
Britney, the UK talent Amy Winehouse, has gone off the rails, the
way she's going, she won't be around much longer, she clearly has
a drug addiction, which despite help, can't seem to kick, her
performance at Glastonbury recently was about as embarrasing as
Britney's MTV performance of 'Gimme more'!!
Anyway, thank you for replying and I daresay I will be in touch
somewhen!!
Best wishes
A
'Marilyn' fan!!
Is Madonna Pushing
the Envelope?
----- Original Message -----
From: michelle
To: Mike
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: Is Madonna Pushing the Envelope?
Madonna's marriage on the rocks? No suprise there then. Madonna
will never be truly happy, the simple reason, she is in pursuit
of something she can never have. So how does she deal with this?
Control or assume, first she will try to gain authority over a
person, most people roll over like good little doggies, but if
she cannot control someone she just assumes their identity, I
feel sorry for Guy, she has totally assumed his role in life, no
wonder he is running for cover.
Madonna will NEVER stop, continually going one step further with
her daring stunts till she get's what she wants, but that's just
it, she will never get it. It is no suprise Madonna is going on
tour, when she is unhappy or she fails, she goes on tour, it is
her outlet and her way to make herself feel better. In her last
tour she hung up on the cross in purple and scarlet, getting
people to confess to her in booths scattered around the arena, so
what next?
How about performing miracles? Healing sick people on stage,
bringing fire down from the sky or bringing dead people back to
life? But heck she is Madonna and we love her for it, most of the
people out there would sell their soul for just a night with her,
so how can we not kiss her ass while she happily bends down for
us to reach it? But when she finally realises, it is her own
actions that stop her from attaining her true goal, mabey it WILL
be too late!!
Beauty
& The Beast
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph
D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:57 AM
Subject: Beauty & The Beast
Here is your phantom like a virgin
"Madonna," aka "The pop culture Beauty" and
her husband "the beast;' your Madonna is a false attention
seeking exploitative deceptive prophet who pretends to be this
woman, among many other members of her little family ha ha ha ha;
As for the coming of the "dark age" of top 40, bear in
mind that there are forces that determine when the good and the
bad eras occur; just to let you know, you will be seeing
"light" much more than "dark" because the
force out here has the ability to control it;
At best, the era of "darkness" will not be as popular
as you believe it will be, should the theme take flight in the
autum of 2008, because truth being provided in specifics about
the practice and specific lyrical theme format orgins of all
music slows it- hope that helps- it's time you recognize the
reality part that is fueling alll of the pop culture fantasies
out here and have been at work since "the beauty" (aka
harlot of Babylon) first made the scene in NY, NY in 1943
Boytoy's
lucky star (son of the Beauty & 2nd beast), NY
* * *
* *
Hello Boytoy's lucky star,
Not sure if you are mocking me or not, but this is a fabulous and
intruiging email all the same. I am not old enough,
unfortunately, to know who these people are from 1943. Since
these are your parents (grandparents?), I would obviously require
your permission to post your email and this photograph.
Actually, every generation has had contenders, if you will, for
whore of Babylon. Theda Bara was quite obviously an early
prototype too, posing provocatively as she did nude and semi-nude
with skeletons (which in itself, as with the skull, has occult
symbolic signifigance going back to the ancient mystery
religions). The tragic repercussions of seeking to symbolise the
babylonian whore religion and culture were evident in the life of
dancer/choreographer Isadora Duncan whose two children drowned in
a freak accident, prompting her to stage a Danse Macabre
performance in New York and Paris several years later, before her
own bizarre and untimely death strangling on a scarf that was
trapped in the spokes of sports car in which she was riding. No
doubt Eva Peron was once considered to be one (little wonder
Madonna chose to portray her in Evita). But, then again,
Argentina was not the world. Marilyn Monroe was being groomed for
the role too, but her brand of sexuality was too 'innocent' and
'girlish' ... and the whole affair with the Kennedys proved to be
her undoing. More failed attempts with Jayne Mansfield, Edie
Sedgewick (courtesy of Andy Warhol), Farrah Fawcett, Deborah
Harry and others. Assuming TSHTF does not happen, I am sure there
will be others after Madonna who will seek the role, including
Kylie Minogue, Britters (if she survives), Paris Hilton, or
rising star Fergie.
The "dark pop" will be a short-lived phenomena, as I
said, like psychedelic music was (true psychedelic, that
eventually produced the likes of the Jefferson Airplane and Moby
Grape). It wont last long, but will make a mark. You probably
misunderstood me: I dont see it as being the biggest thing to
happen since swing in 1939-53 or rock n roll (later simply called
'rock') from 1955 to the present. Its reign will be short and
reflective of the times we are, unfortunately, living in. But
these mini-eras, like the disco era or new wave era, also brief,
do contribute to the overall evolution of pop music.
Something that has also occurred to me: Beatles = le Beast. John
Lennon claimed to be the antichrist in 1966. Liked Lennon and his
music very much, nevertheless.
In any event, if you wish to expand on your comments regarding
Beauty and the Beast, who I am not familiar with, and the whore
of Babylon, feel free to do so.
Best wishes,
Mike
----- Message -----
From: Joseph
D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Beauty & The Beast
Hi, Mike- I read your response quickly so if I missed anything,
forgive me, but I saw a few of the key questions you had-
"Beauty" is my mother
(aka marilyn monroe/liz taylor phantom); beast is her husband;
The McCartney thing is my biological father (the second beast
from 6/66);
I am the prochoice poster child from 1966
Bear in mind that 90 percent of popular musical themes dating
back to 1943 follow an ongoing storyline involving my mother, her
husband, my father, me, my wife and my 4 brothers and sisters
Here are some clue "code" names that will be of help
for you:
"Miss
American Pie" (1971)- my oldest sister
"Material Girl"/daughter of babylon (1985)- my second
oldest sister
"Pinball wizard (1969)- my brother thomas
"Happy Jack" (1966)- by oldest brother John
"Hey Joe/Son of Monster Magnet/Baby Love (1964, 1966)- me
Nowhere man/fool on the hill (1965, 1968)- my biological father
Let's look at the current scene in 2008- 97 of the top 100 songs
are about me; my mother ( the ray of light woman mer girl Mildred Mercaldi ) died in 1997; Miss American Pie (It must
have been love) died in 1989
The term "rock & Roll" (and every form of pop has a
slight variable) pertains to my family members being made into
dolls that originated as plaster sculptures (the rocks); the
"roll" part pertains to this ongoing cosmic movie in
music going on creating composers/dream merchants relationships
to our immediate environment with lyrical themes about our lives
up to the minute
"The Beast" sold these scenes for a price from
1956-1972 (papa was a rolling stone)
The daughter of babylon sold scenes for a price from 1974-1987
(if they don't give her proper credit, she just walked away)
"Miss American Pie" sold these scenes for a price
during the period of 1965-1972 (and then she said bye bye to the
city of Rye, NY where we lived)
Hope that helps contact me anytime ... Sincerely, Joseph D. (son of babylon),
NY
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph
D.
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Beauty & The Beast
Hi, Mike- I read your email closer and here are some specific
clues that you mentioned
My mother was the phantom Marilyn Monroe - The name was inspired
by a musical dream merchant from the 1940's that gave you musical
lyrical storylines about my mother; the singer's name was Vaughn
Monroe; Monroe the hopeless starlet aspiring actress took a leap
of faith and took the name with 2 "m's" to correlate
with the identity of my mother, Mildred A. Mercaldi
Bear in mind that in pop culture virutally everyone plays their
part; so let's let them take a bow, the night is over, etc. etc.
Paris Hilton plays my wife
Britney spears plays my wife, my sister (daughter of babylon) and
even me
Deborah Harry plays my sister the daughter of babylon
Kyline Minogue plays my sister the daughter of babylon
Farrah Fawcett plays my sister the daughter of babylon
Jefferson Airplane is "the family"- me, Miss American
Pie, Daughter of Babylon, Happy Jack and Pinball wizard
The part about John Lennon assuming the role of "The
Anti-christ" is correct; John played "The beast"
in 1964 (money can't buy me love), my mother (Help!, Helter
Skelter) and my biological father (nowhere man, fool on the hill,
paperback writer, etc.); these 3 individuals all represented that
role in 1966 in world pop culture;
In the modern era, you could say that my sister "Daughter of
Babylon" is the Antichrist; this variation is based on
modern world pop culture themes; my sister does not portray
herself in that manner at the current time, however; she only did
it in the 70's and 80's to make money and to help fuel American
industry to the tune of 1 trillion dollars after she allowed
herself to be sold out over and over in music, film, and a role
entitled "the supermodel" to name a few; the 1979
publication entitled "Beastly Images And Essays On The
Bomb" by Philip Berrigan, Miss American Pie's Catholic
fundamentalist mentor tells the story of how my family's images
are sold out over and over and over again in pop culture and how
the practice is adversely affecting America's status on the world
stage because of the secular nature of it all
Ok, so when people portray the D family's absurdist's role
model's "point of view," bear in mind that females can
and do portray males of the family and vice versa;
Now let's look at some of the world stage "bad actors,"
being America's enemies- safely assume that most of them are
assuming the role of "the daughter of babylon" and
apparently these people are motivated to do so only for reasons
they know, but I couldn't tell you specifically for sure as to
why they do it- hope that helps take care- Joseph D
Madonna, Kylie, and
Dark Pop
----- Original Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: (no subject)
Hi there,
I read your piece about 'dark pop' emerging anytime soon. As for
what Madonna is alledgedly planning, it sounds very blasphemous,
but as before, Madonna will get away with it because of her
status.
It's interesting that Timberland has worked on Madonna's
forthcoming album which I understand is to be called 'Licorice'.
Timberland produced Nelly Furtado's chart-topping album, Loose,
it's strange though, although I really like the LP, it seems to
have a somewhat negative effect on me (ie) makes me feel
depressed, if I listen to it too much), maybe that album had a
touch of 'dark pop' about it. When listening to it, like any
music you like, I find I really lose myself in the music, as if
I'm in a trance. I have read websites by Wes Penre (who I'm sure
you have heard of) so this 'dark pop' theory wouldn't surprise me
- mind control and all that!!
Kylie has gradually become raunchier over time, her last video '2
hearts' was quite 'dark' in places, ie) the bejewelled microphone
in the shape of a skeleton's head and her black leather S & M
style outfit and to think Kylie once was the epitome of
innocence, she has definitely come a long way since her 'I should
be so lucky' days!! - it seems all these female pop singers who
start off 'sweet and innocent', sooner or later become 'bad
girls' so to speak, we only have to look at Britney these days to
see that!! - I wouldn't be surprised if Disney star, Miley Cyrus
is moulded as the the next Britney!
Re. Britney, I have wondered if there is perhaps a vendetta
against her by her family and so-called friends, etc. They are
all telling us she is very ill and needs to be admitted, etc and
of course, that gets printed in the papers, so we tend to believe
it. Admittedly, her behaviour has been erratic and somewhat
bizarre, but how do we know that everything we read about her is
true or hasn't been blown out of proportion or even made up, in
which case, you can understand why Britney doesn't stay put as an
'in-patient' for longer then a few days. I do think she suffers
from 'narcisstic disorder', her attention-seeking knows no
bounds!! - ie) getting out of cars knickerless, etc and has an
unhealthy dependence on certain pharmacy drugs and alcohol, etc
and I daresay, having her kids taken away from her and her
marriage breakdown and other grievances have made her feel
depressed, but all this talk of Britney being 'psychotic', etc
might well be true, but it might also be grossly exaggerated, I
guess time will tell, if she really has lost the plot. Because
she's so famous, the moment she is seen breaking into tears in
public, she's considered to be 'suicidal' or such like, it's not
a sin to cry in public is it?? - she's probably so used to people
watching her every move that she doesn't care if she breaks down
in public anymore. Anyway, I was just considering this whole
Britney thing from a different angle. I'm sure you'd agree that
her ex-husband K-Fed and Paris H. seem to like winding Britney
up, hanging out with each other, etc. There was a picture of them
recently at some nightclub in Vegas I think it was and they were
looking at the camera, each with a look as if to say 'this is for
you Britney'. Perhaps I am totally over-analysing it all, but I
am the sort of person who picks up vibes quite easily and I just
got that feeling about that picture.
Sometimes I think we are all too obsessed with celebrity but in
saying that they are very influential, I'm sure most youngsters
would be more interested in what their favourite artist has to
say over a politician!! - of course rap music has been linked to
the rise in gun crime over here in the UK recently, with lyrics
glamourising gun crime, violence, drugs and women depicted as
nothing more then hoes as they call them and in many cases a lot
of these young perpertrators were followers of this type of
music, so I guess that certain artists do have a lot of
influence, worryingly so!! - and as for Madonna (although I've
always considered myself a Madonna fan because she's made such
classic pop records and is such a great performer), you would of
thought as she gets older she would tone it down a bit, but it
sounds like what she is planning for the debut video of her next
album and subsequent tour is even more outrageous then the 'Live
to Tell' performance on her 'Confessions' tour - with someone of
her influence sending out such dubious messages via her
performances, it could be said she is setting a dangerous
precedent!!
Anyway, best wishes for now
A
'Marilyn' fan!
* * * * *
Hi Marilyn Fan,
I should mention, and it is a common mistake, that the name of
the singer/producer is Timbaland. People confuse that name with
that of Justin Timberlake (thus Timberland). It doesn't help
either that both appear in Madonna's new album and both do
production work for it as well (although I think Timbaland does
more than Justin).
Dark Pop, in the form of a catchier, beatier, and melodic dark
wave rock, along with the dark qualities found in trance and
Timbaland's new brand of R&B and rock productions, seems a
logical reaction to and reflection of the times in which we live.
Likewise the psychedelic era was itself reactionary and
reflective of the times which spawned it.
The following few paragraphs may appear as an update to the Dark
Pop prediction:
I would add however that there are also indications in the
current pop music scene that an effort is underway to re-create
the 'feel good' sounds of the early 1970s. Although I work
largely with the number 7 in my visual mathematical patterning of
history and its influence in our present and near future, indeed
the most sacred number found in the Bible and representative of
how time actually works, the number 9 also can wield a powerful
influence when grouped in doubles or 'workings' of 18 years. If
we look at the number of workings closest to the Vietnam era,
which we are linked to by virtue of the Iraq War and the War on
Terror, we find that two such workings ago (36 years) brings us
to 1972. 1972 was perhaps the greatest 'feel good' year in modern
history, marking the dying embers of Vietnam and ushering in the
dawn of what many hoped would be a much better and happier
decade. It laid the foundations for a type of pop music that
would dominate the 1970s alongside the disco era that would begin
a few years later.
Love Song by Sara Bareilles could easily be a Carole King
standard from 1971 or 1972, romantic and bouncy, Barseilles' hit
is destined to become as legendary an anthem as any song that
ever appeared on King's Tapestry album. Wont Go Home Without You
by Maroon 5 actually sounds as though it was abducted from 1972
and transported through time to 2008 for release. It could well
be a cover of a hit from that year for all I know. Apologize by
Timbaland and One Republic reminds one of the singing style of
early Elton John combined with the hopeless, lyrical sadness of a
song like Harry Nilsson's Without You. Even songs that do not
sound as though they come from that time, like No One by Alicia
Keys, at least reflect the idealism and natural romanticism of so
many of the ballads of the era.
Thus, it would appear there is a counter movement in pop music at
work to offset the darkness that is likewise infiltrating the
medium. Who or what is behind this I do not know. But it is for
this reason that I believe 2008 will go down in history as one of
the great years of music along with 2007. Sadly, however, due to
the reality of where we actually are in relationship to world
trends, the 'feel good' pop explosion, like the heady and
jubulent British Invasion years of 1965 and 1966, will ultimately
give way to the dark pop that is being prepared for the autumn of
this year and for the years ahead.
OK. That looks good, think I'll use it, *lol*.
The last I have heard regarding Madonna's choice of title for her
album is possibly 'Odessey.' It has been denied by Madonna's
publicist that Licorice will ever be used as the title. It
appears from recent articles that she will revert to her days of
Erotica and Sex, making the album a huge B&D, S&M
spectacle, especially when she goes on tour with both Justin
Timberlake and Timbaland.
The depression you feel when listening to Nelly Furtado's song is
typical of the effect dark music has on people, magnifying the
low emotions, and that includes not only the darker forms of
lust, but also those related to fear, hate, guilt, and grief.
When dark pop finally reigns the reinforcing effects on listeners
will doubtlessly result in a more powerful and sustainable form
of mind control, obsessive lust or longing, lethargy and
hyperactivity (manic depressive syndrome), anxiety, panic,
despair, madness, homicide, and suicide.
Yes, I have to say reluctantly that Kylie is at least toying with
the WOB image. Now that she has publicly stated that she is
suffering from multiple personality disorder and has a 'committee
in her head' we can see to what extent she has already been
brainwashed and programmed for possible WOB packaging. I have not
seen the 2 Hearts video yet, but the skull and leather S&M
outfit certainly supports my belief she is attempting to set
herself up as Madonna's eventual successor. She does have the
sexual leer, grin, and wicked eyebrows to pull the image off,
although she strikes me as being a bit short. Platform shoes and
soles? Yes, platform padding knitted right into the soles of
negligee stockings why not? *LOL*
I now agree that Miley Cyrus is the long view for WOB if none of
the current contenders are able to pull it off. Last summer I
would have disgreed, but since the release of See You Again there
can be little doubt she is being prepared.
As I mentioned in a previous letter, Britney indeed may end up
more like the 1930s actress Frances Farmer than anyone else ever
has. Farmer was not so much destroyed psychologically by the
establishment or her fan base as she was by her own manipulative
mother and so-called friends! And yes, Paris Hilton and K-Fed are
quite evil and attempting to drive her to suicide.
There are some positive messages to be found in rap these days
(thank goodness the days of gangsta-style rap are finally behind
us for the most part). Sean Kingston, only 17, has attempted to
be uplifting in his blend of Jamaican and rap, although his
latest hit single, Take You There, seems quite dark on the
surface. But he is alternating between the dark and light for a
purpose: to show there is a choice that one can make in their
lives, and he is clearly trying to steer his girlfriend (in the
song) in the direction of making positive choices. He will take
her in either direction (similar to the ghost of Christmas
Present), but he is using contrast to show that the best choice
is always the first one he sings about. It is a cautionary song
and free of hypnotic sound effects. Kanye West clearly preaches
against greed, mocking it through the hyper-glorification of
being rich, in his song Good Life. Bartender by T-Pain reverts to
song via voice synthesiser, creating a relaxed, nostalgic
atmosphere appropriate for cozy clubs and cocktail lounges.
Its not all bad from the world of rap and hip hop these days. And
not all trance sound effects are designed for sinister purposes;
some are designed to create euphoria and a sense of well being.
Programming can be positive or negative, depending. As for
Madonna, I agree: she will be stepping over the line with her
latest contributions and could well be responsible for triggering
an era of musical and visual darkness in a world where darkness
is already beginning to settle like a fog. What she does has
implications that will go far beyond the world of pop music and
celebrity.
Cheers and best wishes,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan!
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Thank you for replying to my recent e-mail about 'dark pop', it
made for very interesting reading (as always), re. Miley Cyrus,
as a Brit, I don't know much about her only that she is a huge
Disney star over in the US and aside from acting is a popular
young singer, much like Britney started off.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll hear from me again!
Best wishes
A
'Marilyn' fan!
Kylie
Minogue as WOB?
----- Original
Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:26 AM
Subject: (no subject)
Hi there
It's interesting that you have considered Kylie Minogue as a
possible contender for the 'WOB'. If Britney was originally
intended to be the 'WOB' after Madonna steps down (if she ever
does!) as pop queen, it looks more and more unlikely now that
Britney will be the 'WOB' as she is such a mess and without a
doubt has lost a lot of respect from people, whereas Kylie has
charisma and is universally-liked, I hear lately that she is due
to receive an OBE and that Gordon Brown is very fond of Kylie as
a person.
On TV before Xmas, there was a one-off Kylie special of her
promoting her new album, in one performance she wore little to
the imagination and rode on a mechanical bull in a provocative
manner, I believe she also rode a mechanical bull in an advert
earlier on in her career when she was promoting an underwear line
and of course there was that time in Madonna's 'Drowned World
Tour' where Madonna wore vest tops, one with 'Britney Spears'
written on it in glitter and another with 'Kylie Minogue' on it!
I am not aware of Kylie being a member of Kabbalah or
Scientology, etc and despite her 'raunchy' performances, she
isn't really that controversial, like Madonna and Britney. I
remember when Britney performed live at some music awards
ceremony wearing next to nothing (as they do!) with a snake
draped around her neck, that image easily conjures up images of
what you imagine the 'WOB' to look like.
Re. Britney, she is so unpredictable, who knows what she'll do
next, I wish people would confirm once and for all what exactly
is wrong with her. Some people say manic depression, some say
MPD, Borderline personality, post-partum depression. I understand
she has been heard talking quite frequently in a 'british
accent', (I read not long ago she is fascinated with the late
Princess Diana, maybe she's trying to imitate her!), all in all,
it's obvious she needs help, but Britney seems so deluded that
she seems to think she doesn't need any!! - it would be a sad day
if we woke to hear Britney was no longer, but I don't think
anyone would be at all surprised if that happened, the way she's
been acting lately.
I saw some pictures of the hedonistic Paris Hilton and sleazy
Kevin Federline together and I can see what you mean when you say
about them rubbing salt in Britney's wounds! - I have noticed
lately that Paris Hilton looks quite 'dead' in the eyes and often
looks like she is under the influence of something, despite her
wealth and fame, I get the feeling she is not a very happy person
these days.
I wonder if Kevin Federline is manipulating the situation re.
Britney and whether intentional or not, trying to push her
further and further nearer the edge (she's already close
enough!). I still consider your suggestion that a celebrity
couple (probably American) will die tragically, maybe one will
shoot the other then shoot themselves, like the Dorothy Stratton
scenario. You get the sense that relations between Britney and
her former husband are very volatile, he really seems to push
Britney's button's but not in a good way!
Re. Kylie, maybe we'll hear soon of her joining Kabbalah!! - the
music industry these days seems to be suffering re. record sales
as so many people download their music and aside from middle aged
female artists and of course, Madonna, who have been around for a
while and accumulated a huge fan-base, there aren't really any
younger female artists out there at the moment who seem that they
could ever be in Madonna or Kylie's league, due to the music
industry being threatened by the internet. I wonder if any up and
coming female artists will ever have the staying power and
influence like the above mentioned have, so maybe Kylie is the
only other option for WOB for the time-being??
Incidentally, I watched Mariah Carey's recent concert (The
Adventures of Mimi') recently and there were 'butterflies'
EVERYWHERE!! - on the stage, a silver glittery tattoo of a
butterfly on her and she wore a big impressive butterfly ring!! -
say no more!! - and in the film 'I am Legend' with Will Smith,
the female lead later on in the film, has a small tattoo of a
butterfly on the side of her neck!!
Best wishes
A
'Marilyn' fan.
* * * * *
Hi MF,
Yes. Kylie will be presented the OBE by the Queen personally, I
believe. Technically she has already won it. Kylie also has the
classic looks of a wob, not only is she seductive, sexy, and
quite pretty, but she has the wicked smile and equally wicked
eyebrows to go with it. Quite perfect, really, for the role.
Yet, when not performing her music, she is quite mundane (save
for the wild comedy sketch with Danni). She is quite nice really;
maybe a bit too nice to be the wob, whereas Madonna is sooo 'in
your face.'
I just watched Madonna's Live Earth version of Hung Up and was
completely blown away. What mastery! What a song! And this
performance was both thrilling and wonderfully dark indeed. Yet I
believe Kylie has the right stuff to pull off something like that
equally amazing, but it may be a while. I watched the Kylie
Minogue Special from a few months ago on YouTube and was
captivated by the entire thing. She is quite polished now and a
few of the songs from "X" easily rival some of
Madonna's stuff. Yes, she was quite seductive riding the bull
near the end of the show, not quite as wild as the lingerie
commercial, but good enough for me *G*. The day may yet come when
she struts down the aisle like a supermodel in time to one of her
songs, giving Madonna a run for her money.
I really hate to admit it, but I think it is over for Britney.
She has had it. If she doesn't self-destruct this year, I'll be
surprised. Even if she does survive, she'll end up, I fear, like
the 1930s actress Frances Farmer: in and out of the loony bin
until one day she goes so nutters that she ends up inside one for
a very long time. I don't think she'll ever be right. The girl
not only needs a shrink: she needs an exorcist!
Yes, Paris and Federline are killing her too. They disgust me:
the both of them. Nothing too bad would be bad enough to happen
to either one of those two!
I do believe there is one young female music artist who may well
replace the likes of Britney and Madonna (although Kylie has a
lot of time yet remaining) ... and that's Fergie. Having seen her
perform such seductive songs as her new hit Clumsy (and she is
practically climaxing on each chorus when she's not gyrating to
each verse), and considering all the other great stuff that's
been comming off of her recent The Duchess album, I think we can
easily see a future replacement for Madonna and Kylie. And of
course she is a blonde too. Fergie has classic potential I think
that has yet to be fully realised (again, Clumsy gives us a
glimpse, I think). If she could only act, she could be another
Jayne Mansfield at least, if not a Marilyn. She has a level head
too, unlike Britney, which could mean this girl will have plenty
of longevity.
Definitely some shuffling around going on here. More super
blondes and more contenders for the honour of wob *lol*. It shall
be interesting to see how things play out.
Thanks for writing again.
Cheers and warm wishes,
Mike
----- Original
Message -----
From: A
Marilyn Fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Hi there
Thank you for your response. Country singer Billy Ray Cyrus has a
daughter called Miley Cyrus (otherwise known as Hannah Montana)
and I understand although still only a young teenager, she
already has quite a following and her concerts have sold out. She
also is a 'Disney' star (like former Mousketeer's Britney,
Justine and Christina A), maybe she is also a candidate for the
WOB as she gets older, (I guess we'll have to wait and see!!).
Incidentally, (I'm sure you are aware of this) but when Britney
shaved her hair off, the salon she went into was called 'Esther'
of all things!! - I wonder if there is anything in that!! - as
Madonna is otherwise known as Esther these days.
The Princess Diana court case which is currently taking place is
becoming rather tiresome now, personally, I don't think we'll
ever get to the bottom of it, it looks likely to remain a
'mystery' just like Marilyn's suspicious death.
I noticed Amy Winehouse has recently dyed her hair blonde,
although I'm not convinced it suits her but they all seem to end
up going blonde don't they, curious!
I have read some people do not agree with Kylie receiving an OBE,
but she is obviously in favour with the powers that be!!
Another famous female celebrity, Victoria Beckham, seems
absolutely determined that her and her husband David Beckham,
become the most famous couple on the planet. I don't think people
take her seriously enough for her to ever be a candidate for WOB,
but as good friends of Tom Cruise and his wife, it'll be
interesting to see how long it is before they are talked into
joining Scientology!
Anyway, I guess we'll have to wait and see!!
Best wishes
A
Marilyn Fan
letter for
e-madonna e-mail forum
----- Original Message -----
From: DC
To: mmcclellan@roadrunner.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:58 AM
Subject: letter for e-madonna e-mail forum
Dear Mike,
Found this and thought it would be interesting to comment on.
Three of the rumoured title names for Madonna's new album are
'Black Star', 'XXV' & 'Oddysey', now Kylie has used 'X' and
Britney has used the word 'Black', So I would guess Madonna is
going to go for Oddysey, and here's why she might do that;
http://www.2012theodyssey.com/index.html
Remember, if Madonna had released her album as planned (bear in
mind the working title of this album is 'Connexion'), all three
album's would have been out together. Nibiru, is also know as the
'Dark Star' and 'Planet X' and is now being linked to the word
Oddysey by this film. Coincidence????? or are we being
pre-warned????
thanks Mike
DC
* * * * *
Hi DC,
Hmmmmmmmmmmm ... still Odyssey, the film, is a reminder that we
can change the future: "The Odyssey ... shows us that the
coming world is ours to reshape and to remake in any way that we
deem possible. It reminds us that we need not be victims of
events beyond our control." This IS in keeping with
Madonna's philosophy as she has expressed it in her past songs
like "Get Together."
Then again, it does admit that great earth changes are comming
that will have dire consequences for humanity. Wonder why the
woman in the ad is smiling??? Doesn't she realise she is going to
die?? Oh well.. so much for marketing strategy..
Yes, taken together, I agree that "Black(out),"
"X," and "Odyssey" do constitute a body of
work by three women who would love to be the personification of
the whore of Babylon, designed to prepare music listeners (at
least) for the comming of Planet X and the horror and wonder that
shall accompany its passage.
Thanks DC
Mike
Britney
Breaks Down Again
----- Original Message -----
From: A
Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:41 AM
Subject: (no subject)
Poor Britney, after the antics of this Thurs. eve. which I'm sure
you've heard about where she was rushed to Cedars Sinai Medical
Centre for an urgent psychiatric evaluation because she'd not
given her sons back to her ex's bodyguard and was apparently
under the influence of some drug, one can't help but wonder if
predictions of her commiting suicide are not so far off the mark.
I also read on the Perez Hilton site that she has really messed
up now re. gaining custody of her kids, she could ultimately lose
access to them completely now and that could really send her
downhill.
What a shame that such a talented young women has gone off the
rails like this, like singer Amy Winehouse, I don't think any of
us would be too surprised if we woke one morning to hear on the
news that Britney had followed in the footsteps of many other
bright young things who have died young, sorry to sound
pessimistic, but after the latest drama, it just seems she is so
out of control.
And as usual, there seems to be lots of drama occuring around the
world since Boxing Day, so many deaths since then. In the news in
the UK, there have been about 12 stabbings/shootings since Boxing
Day. I find that Boxing Day seems to bring a lot of disaster,
etc, ie) one year I believe there was a massive earthquake in
Iran and then of course there was the tsunami another.
Anyway, Happy New Year, I guess all we can do is hope that there
isn't too much tragedy this year.
Best wishes to you.
A
Marilyn fan
* * *
* *
Hi Marilyn Fan,
I saw the images last night of Britney being strapped down and
carried away in ambulance. She looked, dirty, disheveled, naked,
confused, and clearly disturbed. Alternating between weeping and
anger to smiling away deliriously at one of the paramedics, she
looked senile and almost certainly deranged. The sight actually
made me feel both revulsion and incredible sadness. I had to
switch of the monitor and lie down for a while, the images made
me feel quite ill. How could one so young become this way? Little
by little, Britney Spears is losing her brain, piece by piece,
like an old person from senile dementia or Alzheimer's. It is
almost horrific. It might be more merciful for her and for her
fans if she just overdosed and died peacefully. And Amy
Winehouse, whose song about rehab ironically did so well last
summer, has overdosed on higher doses of more drugs and lived to
tell about it than any other singer/entertainer in history.
Both of these young women appear to be trying to set new records
in the domain of self-destruction. I do believe Britney, at
least, has been programmed for self-destruction by some
diabolical secret society or religious group, possibly Madonna's
Kabbalah or other NWO satanic group because she has failed in her
mission. See how Paris Hilton and K-Fed, clearly agents of this
group, rub salt in her wounds as she slides down the pipe.
Britney does remind me of only one other blonde female celebrity
who did survive her ordeals, if you want to call it survival: the
1930s/early 1940s actress Frances Farmer who eventually went
insane and was committed to a madhouse and then lobotomised. That
was a long time ago, but it could be happening again...
Very sad indeed.
Happy New Years again and warm wishes to you,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: A
'Marilyn' fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:05 AM
Subject: (no subject)
Thank you for your response, I've since read on the Perez Hilton
site, that Britney might of 'staged' the whole thing because she
is jealous of the attention her sister is getting since she
announced she's pregnant. Surely Britney isn't that desperate for
attention that she needs to resort to doing that and I can't
believe she'd jeopardize seeing her children!! - personally, I
think she got in a state about having to hand her kids over.
Living in that big mansion on her own must increase her feelings
of loneliness (maybe that's why she spends a lot of time staying
in hotels apparently!!), she seems to be alienating herself more
and more from her family and any genuine friends she's got. The
so-called friends she has got, seem to be of a dubious nature and
you can't help wonder are taking advantage of her vunerable
state.
At least now she's finally getting a proper mental health
assessement and maybe they'll be able to confirm what is making
her act so crazy. Of course, it could be drug-induced, I guess
we'll have to wait and see. My concern is that once she's let
out, she's going to become more angry and upset that she can't
see her kids because of her antics the other night. (I read that
she will not be able to see them at all for a while now), and it
makes you wonder what she's going to do next!! - she clearly has
self-destructive tendencies and therefore has the potential to do
something silly. I know you have predicted that early this year
there could be a repeat of the Dorothy Stratton scenario, the
situation between Britney and her ex certainly seems volatile
enough!!
I agree with you that maybe Britney has been 'programmed' to
self-destruct, once she sacked her handlers including her mother
who seemed to play a big part in her success, she seems to have
gone completely off the rails, it makes you realise how much
control all these people had over her and now she's out there on
her own so to speak, she really has lost the plot!
I know you mentioned in your WOB piece, was the plan was Britney
was supposed to carry on Madonna's legacy when it was time for
her to step down (whenever that will be, Madonna seems
unstoppable!), but she discontinued her study of Kabbalah which
might of been a lot to do with why Madonna cut all ties with her.
If Madonna had been a true friend you'd of thought she'd reach
out to Britney now and try to help her, maybe she will yet, but
somehow I doubt it!!
I read that Marilyn Monroe was re-programmed when she was
admitted to psychiatric establishments, I wonder if they will try
and 're-programme' Britney and then there was Mariah Carey who
had a breakdown, I know you have said she has also been
programmed, it makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes.
All in all, it's a great shame was has happened to Britney, I
guess we'll have to wait and see what unfolds next in the Britney
soap opera, as they call it!
Anyway, best wishes
I daresay you'll hear from me again soon!
A
'Marilyn' fan
----- Original Message -----
From: A
Marilyn fan
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: (no subject)
Hi there
I've stumbled across a site called 'The Freemans Perspective -
Anna Nicole, Britney and Mind Control', it's quite interesting, I thought you might
be interested to view it.
Best wishes
A
Marilyn fan
Madonna
and Bestiality/Mind-Controlled Slaves questions/Live To Tell as a
nun, single cover
----- Original Message -----
From:
israell
To: mmcclellan@adelphia.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Madonna and Bestiality/Mind-Controlled Slaves
questions/Live To Tell as a nun, single cover
Dear Michael,
You mentionned it quite a few times on your site. Madonna first
dealt with bestiality in her 1992 SEX book. There was a picture
showing her dressed as a bunny, spreading her legs on top of a
dog lying on their back.
http://www.madonna-online.ch/m-online/galleries/1992/92-10-21_sex/pix/sb_058.jpg
Her second attempt was in her 1995 Human Nature music video, a
song she wrote against those who opposed her during the
SEX/Erotica/Body Of Evidence era. She said it's "a little
'fuck you' to all the up-tight prudes of the world". She
would close her eyes and wave a dog around her face passionately,
then mock-whip them. You see a star in the video. Madonna and her
dancers form it with a black cord.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJq7-oyEYaY
Her third and final attempt was in 2006 for W magazine
photoshoot/portfolio entitled "Madonna Rides Again",
her Confessions Tour program and her official 2007 calendar.
The picture, that apppear in all 3 publications, shows her
topless, in long leather or vinyl gloves, panties and fishnet
stockings wearing a whip before a horse.
http://www.madonna-online.ch/m-online/galleries/2006/06-06-00_w-magazine/sites/w-magazine-steven-klein-06_008.htm
She rode a mechanical bull/horse thingie for her 2001 Drowned
World Tour and her 2006 Confessions Tour.
From Wikipedia:
""Human Nature" by slow-riding a mechanical bull
on her 2001 Drowned World Tour."
"In 2006's Confessions Tour, the song was given a
horseriding theme. Madonna performed the song atop a studded
leather S&M carousel horse while x-rays of her broken bones
(the result of a horse-riding accident on her 47th birthday)
flashed on the screens behind her."
Those two things have nothing to do with bestiality per say but
you might have referred to those as such in your articles.
Her private life is none of my business. I can't tell you if she
ever experienced bestiality. Hopefully not! LOL! But I have a
right to comment on things that she does publicly, sell so people
can buy etc. It pertains to the public.
I like her alright. I love her but I'm quite shocked and stunned
that she would dabble with bestiality, even if it's not for real
at all.
Warner forbade her from depicting bestiality, religion etc. in
her book. She however did it when they no longer had a say in it.
It might have been a simple act of fun and rebellion. She said it
was about being playful but she depicted it later on in Human
Nature and the Confessions Tour program.
Why the Hell would Madonna or anyone be attracted to that? What's
sexually appealing in any animal? Why leave a man or a woman for
a beast? Anyway...
You said that some singers are mind-controlled slaves, that they
don't necessarily act in an erotic manner because they want to.
How do they proceed to control them exactly?
"REMEMBER,
MOST OF THESE FEMALES HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED, SOME AT A VERY EARLY
AGE! SOME, HOWEVER, DO SIGN CONTRACTS." http://www.newprophecy.net/whore.htm
What about those who sign contracts. How, where, when do they
sign those? Why would they do it? In order to sell more records,
for fame, money, recognition? You should write a longer article
on mind-controlled slaves. That would be interesting.
You said, as well as Camille Paglia and AJ Hammer from CNN
Headline News' Showbiz Tonight that Madonna gave Britney the kiss
of death. Christina did however turn out just fine...
Those women are two completely different persons but the
similarities between them are striking!
CHRISTINA AGUILERA:
Jan. 2008 Marie Claire Pregnancy Nudes:
http://www.marieclaire.com/hair/celebrity/behind-scenes/Christina-Aguilera-countdown-2
http://www.aguilerabuff.com/2007/12/04/more-nude-pregnant-pics-of-christina-aguilera/
2007 Maxim Nudes:
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/pictures_and_bio/1263/ChristinaAguilera.girl
http://www.derekhail.com/2007/02/12/christina-aguilera-in-maxim/
2003 Chiristina/Madonna Kiss:
http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1477737&photoID=1778256
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2083/Events/2083/Madonnaand_Mazur_1408730_400.jpg.html?hint=group
BRITNEY SPEARS:
2007 Allure Nudes:
http://www.allure.com/magazine/2007/09/britney?slide=1
"In many photographs you see of her, Spears appears to be an
unwilling participant. But she voluntarily posed for Allure's
September cover, shot by Michael Thompson, in Santa Monica on
April 25. View exclusive outtakes here. For more photos and the
feature "Britney on Hold" by Judith Newman, pick up the
September issue of Allure."
It says Briney was WILLING to do it. Christina says she's proud
of her sexuality, assumes it etc. If they are indeed
mind-controlled slaves, those that enslaved them are very very
good at it!
2006 Bazaar Pregnancy Nudes:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/entertainment/2006-06/29/content_628709.htm
2003 Britney/Madonna Kiss:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14629048@N02/1499432411/
All of them claim to love God and serve Him. That's what I tell
people telling me bad stuff about them, how they might be damned
etc. They do both spiritual and lustful things onstage -Madonna's
Blond Ambition and Confessions Tour for instance-, TV,
documentaries, concerts and seem to be very much blessed by God.
They are 3 very powerful megastars with staying power. They are
still very much around releasing records after records.
http://www.mtv.com/photos/?fid=1477737&photoID=1778249
I know you were skeptical of Madonna's motives for singing on a
cross during the Confessions Tour in spite of her heartfelt
explanations.
http://monkeymail.org/archives/madinfo/2006/000431.html
Confessions/Live To Tell -better quality-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pauwqhITYKE&feature=related
Madonna did however dress as a nun when performing Live To Tell
in 1990. It shows that the religious element in the song
pre-dates her Confessions Tour performance.
Live To Tell/Oh Father http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeTnpcMDe-M
It's funny to see how she evolved from a nun, in 1990, to Jesus,
in 2006... Was that planned all along?
The 1986 Live To Tell single cover features a very special and
intriguing cross:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-Madonna-photo-Live-to-Tell-trade-promo-ad_W0QQitemZ370004833687QQihZ024QQ
categoryZ29892QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
http://i5.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/97/e5/a11c_1_b.JPG
Therefore, Catholicism has always surrounded this song written
for her ex-husband Sean Penn's movie At Close Range.
I read your Beast Within lyrics. Madonna has a song called
Justify My Love/The Beast Within Mix in which she reads from the
Book of Revelation. She pewrformed it during her 1993 The Girlie
Show Tour and her 2004 Re-Invention Tour.
From Wikipedia:
"The Beast Within" is a remix of the song,
"Justify My Love", released as a B-side to that single.
The remix uses only the chorus and certain lines of the original
song, with the verses being replaced by passages from the Book of
Revelation from the Bible. The song first garnered media
attention early in 1991 when the Simon Wiesenthal Center accused
the song of containing anti-semitic lyrics. Madonna denied the
accusations, explaining that the song was about love, not hatred.
"The Beast Within" was showcased as a dancers'
interlude during Madonna's 1993 tour, The Girlie Show Tour. It
was used again as the video introduction to the 2004 The
Re-Invention Tour, and played amongst apocalyptic imagery of
Madonna on video screens, prior to her appearing on stage. It was
subsequently included on the 2006 live album, I'm Going to Tell
You a Secret.
Regards,
Israell
MYSTICAL MADONNA
Even Madonna's Erotica music video has mystical elements. You see
all kind of naughty stuff but at 3:41 starts a religious segment.
It shows her whipping herself, lying in a grave, a big luminous
cross. She lies in the grave and stands up again, making the
cross gesture with her arms, like a resurrection. She does the
same gesture on the beach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlayVEnBrx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur3yiRDcn9w
more versions:
emotional Who's That Girl version from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_6kvi9gaGs
Who's That Girl version from Turin, Italy -some interaction with
the young
dancer, mystical hand gestures between them- ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dEzeZzob0 The way she looks at her hand in the
beginning might mean something-
Demo version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fNooBVKuVA
In Take A Bow, You see the Virgin, Madonna sucks her own blood,
the Virgin again... Later on, something very naughty in bed...
She always mixes religion and sex and seems to receives tons of
blessings in her existence...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQV8j8xndc
* * * * *
Hello Israell,
I have run into these images of Madonna too, some quite some time
ago. No question that the ones involving the dog, especially the
first one with it lying on its back whilst Madonna *appears* to
straddle its snout dressed as a bunny, are intended to project
the topic of bestiality. The book SEX was intended to be an
in-your-face exploration of all forms of human sexuality,
including those labled as perverse or deviant. Thus we see
evidence of threesomes, B&D, and S&M. Each photo shoot
was cleverly and remarkably staged as well. Even so, there were
other forms of sex I felt Madonna had ignored entirely in her
book. Her follow-up video Human Nature amplifies the philosophy
in SEX: that these actions are part of "human nature."
I would tend to argue that many of these "subculture
explorations" are not perverted at all and have been badly
maligned by religious groups attempting to assert the standard of
what human sexuality should be all about.
HOWEVER, bestiality is without question one of several things
that I would consider to be perverse, deviant and entirely
unacceptable.
In any event, the allusions to Madonna riding a beast on my
website are not actually about bestiality. They are about the
metaphorical ideation at work in the Book of Revelation regarding
the Whore of Babylon. The "beast" she rides is a one
world culture of hedonism incorporating elements of ritual sex
and ritual sacrifice (death), one that is supported by a
coalition of old and new religions and by a global political
system.
At least, this is the image of the Whore of Babylon (WOB or wob
for short) we are introduced to in Revelation. A few pages later,
suddenly, the wob has become a powerful political figure who is
head of state of a great trading nation. At this point we witness
her fiery demise and the nuclear destruction of her country at
the hands of the "beast" (also popularly called the
Anti-christ, although he is never called this anywhere in Bible
prophecy) and the ten kings who serve as his knights.
The question then becomes: are there two wobs? or is the
political wob merely a puppet of the cultural/religious wob?
Israell, in all honesty I admire and love Madonna too. I have
always been a long time fan of hers. Back when I was a DJ in the
1980s I used to play and promote her music.
But this is a website about prophecy and also about how history
repeats itself in future events in variations of the sacred
number 7 and its multiples. Two things about Madonna: 1) she does
match certain profiles of people prophesied by Nostradamus and
the Bible; some of what is prophesied is not very nice
unfortunately 2) history warns her life is in danger due to
actual past events that have happened to her and also the fates
of famous women she has used as role models.
The end result are presentations on my part that appear
admittedly quite sensational in nature, but no less so than the
subject herself is. If Madonna wants to hang on a cross to
somehow demonstrate that it is time we all begin bearing our own
crosses or perhaps to criticise the lack of the feminine element
in modern Christianity, that is fine with me: however, if in the
process of doing so she is unintentionally or in reality setting
herself up as a modern personification of the whore of Babylon,
she will have to be prepared for the analogies that shall
inevitably be made ... and a casual look at certain websites and
forums show that this is not something only I have concluded.
And, after all, her video Like A Prayer (1989) and Justify My
Love, The Beast Within Remix from 1993 pretty much sets up the
likelihood that she has been fancying herself in such a role for
quite a long time. Strange for an American; not so strange in
older countries with older traditions *LOL*.
Now regarding the mind control thing, there are many ways to
explain it, but the best way would be to bring to your attention
the following remarks that appear on a webpage of mine from 2002,
still accessible from the old Madonna and Pamela Anderson
Prophecy (Part One) page. They belong to a viewer, J. Polise.
August 16, 1958 Madonna's
birthdate. (1 + 6 = 7) She is ruled by 7 in Chaldean numerology.
Seven vibrates to the planet Neptune. Neptune rules illusion and
dreams- but also addiction and deception. The birth number 16 =
the Tower in the Tarot.
Trump 16
contains the image of a Royal couple (King/Queen) falling
from a Tower struck by Lightning. The eye of Horus
(Illuminati imago) lies behind the Tower. Madonna is a Leo
(Queen) , her status in the entertainment field has always
been carefully orchestrated and planned by powers much
greater than simple blonde ambition. Some have depicted her
as an MK-Ultra "mind controlled slave." These
people are "programmed" by a variety of techniques.
One image used in the control of a Monarch Slave is the
Kabbalistic Tree of Life. Interwoven on the Tree is a
polarity (good/bad) set of "altars". The altars are
related to hidden personality programs which are 'triggered'
by internal/external cues leading the MK slave to perform
preprogrammed actions. I found it interesting that Madonna
had become involved with the Kaballah Learning Center...
along with Rosanne and Monica Lewinsky (two others who have
been associated with MK Ultra programming). In any case the
Eye of Horus of Trump 16 could be associated with the forces
ultimately responsible for whatever happens to Madonna. By
the way, Monroe was also a "presidental model" MK
Slave, but that is another story...
Madonna's lyrics/imago are organized by Illuminati forces.
She is probably near the end of her career as an MK Ultra
slave. Her music is very revealing if examined in context of
the mind contol premise. Look at the highlights of her long
career:
With her first
hit "Lucky Star" , the program was announced:
" You must be my lucky star/ 'cause you shine on me
wherever you are/ I just think of you and I start to glow/
and I need your light, and baby you know."
Here there is a reference to the "royal star" imago
of MK Ultra Monarch programming. The altars are placed on the
corners of a pentagram or six pointed star which map the
relationship between them in a directional fashion. More
importantly is the trigger contained in the refrain of this
tune.
"STAR LIGHT
The trigger in Lucky Star is:
" STAR LIGHT/STAR BRIGHT /THE STAR I SEE TONIGHT;
extended refrain. This is an example of how entertainment is
used in the activation of altars for those subject to the
fascination of MK Ultra programming. Such simple nursery
rhyme like refains can 'trigger' the altars of other
programmed slaves when heard on the radio or on a CD or TV.
The dissociated personality of someone mind controlled simply
hears a tune like "Lucky Star" and in the right
situation does the craziest of things, like go on a
murder-suicide mission, agree to become an agent of drug
trafficking, or whatever the altar's file tells him/her to go
out and do. They look like lone agents, but their actions
serve those in positions of the highest , hidden orders of
international influence. The ultimate motives of the
Illuminati are based on a plan for One World Govenment, a
single unit of currency, population reduction, with the
remaining hoi polloi under the influence of a global ,
computerized tracking and surveillance system, the
reintroduction of pagan worship (of the gods who will be
played by humans in the upper echelon of the Illumuminati.
Mount Olympus will be somewhere in Colorado.)
Madonna and Michael Jackson came out about three years after
the assassination of John Lennon, who was oh-so-on to what
the Beatles were used for in the sixties. Listen to his song
"Mind Games". The slaves Charles Manson and Mark
Chapman were triggered in their actions using Beatles music ,
ie "Helter Skelter". Each generation therfore has
its own entertainers the programmers use as agents , through
commercialized pop music and imagos. Madonna is currently
"expendable" because she is getting older, unable
to influence those who are younger. So now we have Britney
Spears, Christina Aguliara, and Justin Timberlake who were
all trained at Disney. Disney is a major MK Ultra operative.
By the way Mariah Carey is a slave whose music/lyrics are
cues used to trigger Beta sex slave altars. Mariah= Moriah;
"Moriah" is another word for Illuminati. Mariah
herself was handled by programmers working out of Sony . On
her 30th birthday she was "fired" from Sony Music.
Her programming went into self destruct mode and she
attempted suicide twice. This is what happens to older
Monarch slaves. Mariah's song "Butterfly" cues
prostitution/sex slave altars most likely. "Spread your
wings (legs)/ little butterfly..." LOL. Mariah's case
shows how MK slaves are usually programmed in multiples.
There are Beta programs (sex slave, protitution), Deltas
(suicide mission like those who participate in things like
9-11) , and psychic programs (disinformation agents,
channelers, remote viewers) . See the lectures of Dr. Corydon
Hammond. The point with Madonna and pop music is that
organized religion doesn't work anymore, so since Elvis pop
music has been the new opiate of the masses. The song
"Ray of Light" is Madonna's via Illuminati's vision
of the coming NWO.
Anyway, as for the contracts I
mentioned, these are Satanic in nature. True Faustian contracts.
In the story, Faust's own contract lasted only 26 years, but
contracts (obviously) are renewable or may cover longer periods,
otherwise some of the celebs who have signed clearly would not
reach a full measure of life.
Madonna's aim was true with her kiss of death: she hoped to
escape the fate of the strangled blonde of Quatrain 1.39 by
passing it off onto Britney Spears.
Even so, Britney's period of danger now appears to be passing.
She had the double disadvantage of being caught in a two-year
loop of danger associated with the suicide of a child star last
year (similar to what occurred to Dana Plato in 1999) and, this
year, the curse of those actresses and models with the name
"Jean" contained in them (such as Jean Harlow, Jean
Seberg, Dorothy Jean Dandridge, also supermodel Gia (Jee-a) and
actress Gia Scala: Britney's full name is Britney Jean Spears).
Every so often, the Jean thing is not repeated, but some famous
female celeb still winds up dead, usually of suicide or disease
at a young age. This year it was Anna Nicole Smith. In 2000 it
was Paula Yates. And in 1993 it was Audrey Hepburn. So, the
Jean/"Gee" name sound aspect has not occurred again
since the death of supermodel Gia in 1986: but it nearly did in
March 2007.
This year there was nearly a double tragedy, Anna Nicole in
February and Britney Jean Spears in March. The child star
influence was strong enough in March to cause a suicide attempt.
I warned in February when Spears shaved her head that this had
all the marks of ritualistic suicide in preparation and did not
expect her to live beyond March 2007. I also hinted that hanging
would be the method, which it almost was.
Prospects for her recovery are much better now, despite heavy
criticism of her live performances. Her singles have done
remarkably well on the top 40, and she may even take the place of
Marilyn Monroe in her career if all goes well. However, the
troubles with her ex-husband K-Fed and the custody of her
children still require a positive resolution.
I would guess that by now you know I am well aware of the Justify
My Love/Beat Within remix (I even had the song playing on my
Second Home page throughout the month of October when I had my
Ascension of Madonna as the Goddess Ishtar article posted (Esther
= Ishtar). I also hope you understand from my previous comments
above that despite her good motives for the cross behaviour, it
could never hope to be interpreted in a different sence than the
way it was by many "authorities" ... and I think deep
down she knew this, even welcomed it.
Ultimately, however, if you understand my view that Nostradamus
has dated the final events of Revelation not to occur until
2242/43, Madonna (and her puppet Hillary Clinton) as the wob can
be nothing more than a dress rehearsal for one to come many years
from now, an intriguing archetype of what can only be future myth
at this time.
Kind regards,
Mike
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